Open world Duels [Merged]
I used to be really against dueling but if players want them bad enough who am i stop stop them. It will only bother me if I can’t chose to opt out of duel requests.
Really , so if gw2 add pk style u all have a special heart attack?
The pve players , are only a base of hellokity games nothing more.
1) all u do is pve , cause u cant pvp another one, why? u are afraid and a terrible pvp player.
2) The pve players never want to do pvp , cause they skill play is terrible they only want to figths mobs , cause mobs cant think really and vs another player they fell inferior.
People like you, throwing around childish insults in badly-written English are the reason I hope ANet never introduce duelling.
There’s plenty of other games out there for so-called illiterate elitists to bask in their own ego whilst ganking lv1 noobs. GW2 isn’t one of them.
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why you are talking about lvl ? characters will recieve pvp traits and armor and everyone would be equal . Mobs will hit them but they won`t deal any dmg to mobs,or lower than in pve armor . Its my opinion .
why you are talking about lvl ? characters will recieve pvp traits and armor and everyone would be equal . Mobs will hit them but they won`t deal any dmg to mobs,or lower than in pve armor . Its my opinion .
Tumbero specifically mentioned “PK-style”. To me, that sound a lot like the same ganking nonsense you get in other open-world PvP games. He attacks PvE players because they want to play PvE and insists that (in a manner of speaking – hard to tell with the gibberish he was writing, TBH), PvEers are scared of PvPers like him.
It sounds like he’s not really interested in duelling at all, but the ability to gank anyone he wishes, whenever he wants. If his views are representative of duellers in general though, then I am 100% against it.
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There’s a bigger issue than the want/don’t want continuum. ANet is implementing duels in the mists, that cost money. What’s their incentive to make it free so that no one would pay to duel?
Yeah, I’d love this, even though it’s been suggested before. Just something to do without having to go to SPvP, set up my gear and crap, then set up a custom match. I just wanna right click someones name, click “Duel” and we duke it out right then if they accept.
There’s a bigger issue than the want/don’t want continuum. ANet is implementing duels in the mists, that cost money. What’s their incentive to make it free so that no one would pay to duel?
Unless ANet makes it free in the mists (not likely to happen), then it pretty much means free open world dueling isn’t going to happen (unless they set up some kind of fee upon accepting a duel).
I would support open world dueling if there were pre-designated areas not near waypoints. Otherwise, people will create their own and probably interrupt everyone else’s game play.
Like the 2000 mount threads, most of them where ANet themselves have said no, this is probably the 5000th bloody world duel thread where people want to be uber griefers.
No.
That’s no, nein, negative, not in a thousand years.
Having a place in the mists you can duel 1v1? No problem. When you boil away the chatter in these threads though, every single one amounts to “I want to be able to troll noobs and abuse people without the same experience I have, to stroke my kitten.”
So, again, no.
Really , so if gw2 add pk style u all have a special heart attack?
The pve players , are only a base of hellokity games nothing more.
1) all u do is pve , cause u cant pvp another one, why? u are afraid and a terrible pvp player.
2) The pve players never want to do pvp , cause they skill play is terrible they only want to figths mobs , cause mobs cant think really and vs another player they fell inferior.
Look the ultimate example of what my last post was – someone who wants to troll and grief, and believes it’s only fun if it’s his way.
Go buy mortal kombat if that’s what you’re after, kemosabe.
My answer is NO!
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I have no problem with open world duels, with the condition of adding an option to disable -Duel requests-.
So for those who dislike dueling or pvp in general don’t need to worry about players spamming requests.
I find it funny that so many people complain about a system that doesn’t exist. No one is saying that a duel system has to be based around invites. It could be exactly the same system as Costume Brawl. I.e. you set up a (free) “duel box”, and other players can then accept your duel by using the same box.
Which would duels still allow to happen in places where I don’t want them. Keep those anoying effects and sounds out of my field of view, allow them only in certain areas and you can have it, otherwise I am and will always be a no.
What the hell are you talking about? You only want players to do combat in certain places, even though the game already allows you to fight mobs all over the game, and that box of fun are already in towns? So you don’t want something that’s already in the game? That makes as much sense as saying you don’t want a bush on your lawn, because you don’t like green.
It’s a weird concept, it really is.
Cons:
- Trying to run around while your interface is spammed with duel requests.
- Nerd raged players hazing with “DUEL ME BRO”
- Creates a ‘messy’ atmosphereProc:
- Able to test your skills 1v1 in a controlled environment
- Actually can be entertaining if in the right areaSo overall, I’d say no to “Open World”. Although con #1 could be rectified with a ‘Reject duels’ option, I feel it would only subtract from the game.
I remember in playing that old Universe of Fightcraft walking outside a town and seeing 2-3 duels going on. Sometimes it was fun to watch and cheer players on. In a dedicated area, it can be fine and actually add to the atmosphere.
I personally enjoyed being able to duel with my buddies… not to prove who was better, but to practice.
If there was a dedicated area for duels (maybe fighting pits or something in the mists area), I think it would be fine… but no open world.
As for the cons you mention:
- What makes you think that the duel system would be based around invites? Just because that’s how it works in other MMOs, it doesn’t mean that’s how it would work in Guild Wars 2. As mentioned, costume brawl and box of fun are great examples of how a dueling system could work in Guild Wars 2.
- The average age of players in Guild Wars 2 is closer to 30 then 15. If “nerd rage” is not an issue now, why would it become an issue if duels were to be introduced in the game?
- Duels would create no more “messy atmospheres” then combat in sPvP currently do.
The strength of duels, is the fact that you can do them anywhere. If there were to be a duel arena, then the purpose of dueling would still be missing, as it would just become an alternative sPvP area. And the new custom PvP arenas, already allows for dueling in a closed environment.
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Look guys, if you so desperately want to fight 1v1, buy mortal kombat or something – leave those of us who want to play the game without the mess that WoW has with nerdrage in peace.
If you feel you MUST have dueling in game, maybe try get them to add specific spots – the arenanet ring in LA comes to mind. Or the various training pits in seraph/bandit camps.
The response is these threads if fairly standard – the bulk of us don’t want to even have to see the requests from folks, nonetheless have to deal with groups of duelers hanging about waypoints or other places.
There’s an entire style of games for people who like these features, and I truly don’t understand why you’re so desperate to have it introduced to this one.
you could buy a private arena and issue challenges to anyone.
As has been said multiple times, they should put an arena int he mists that is FFA the moment you step inside the gate, there is your dueling ring. Party’s get broken up upon entering should also happen so there is no way to not hit each other, thus forcing the FFA gameplay.
Make another area look like a dirt training circle where duels could be offered between individuals.
This should all be within the mists, where PvP belongs.
Definite yes. I personally won’t be dueling, but its a neat way to test yourself against friends. All you need is an option to toggle viewing requests. As for the people whining about how “they don’t want to have to see it”, boo hoo. Suck it up, buttercup. The game isn’t only about you, and you shouldn’t even care about what other people are doing. If they find it fun and it doesn’t actually interfere with your gameplay then there shouldn’t be a problem.
As for the people whining about how “they don’t want to have to see it”, boo hoo. Suck it up, buttercup. The game isn’t only about you, and you shouldn’t even care about what other people are doing.
This game isn’t only about you either… Buttercup.
Just as much as you duellists like to make your voices heard, so do we anti-duellists. That’s what discussions are all about – opposing views.
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As for the people whining about how “they don’t want to have to see it”, boo hoo. Suck it up, buttercup. The game isn’t only about you, and you shouldn’t even care about what other people are doing.
This game isn’t only about you either… Buttercup.
Just as much as you duellists like to make your voices heard, so do we anti-duellists. That’s what discussions are all about – opposing views.
If you read my post you’d see I don’t even care to duel myself, I just think that denying other people that ability because “you don’t like seeing people dueling” is absolutely ridiculous. If you have some legitimate concern about why they shouldn’t be allowed, I respect your opinion. I don’t however, respect the opinion of someone who doesn’t want people to be able to enjoy something simply because they personally don’t like seeing people enjoy something.
Anyone who has read the upcoming changes and features page on the wiki would know dueling was and may still be, a planned feature.
If they do add it, a simple fix for people who don’t want to be spammed with duel requests would be them also adding an interface option to have those requests automatically blocked. That way, people who hate dueling won’t have to see requests for it popping up.
I on the other hand, would very much like to be able to do 1v1 dueling, particularly because I am sick and tired of joining sPvP maps only to get yelled at for interrupting a duel and would prefer it if they took place outside of actual matches, though there are other issues ANet should focus on fixing beforehand.
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As for the people whining about how “they don’t want to have to see it”, boo hoo. Suck it up, buttercup. The game isn’t only about you, and you shouldn’t even care about what other people are doing.
This game isn’t only about you either… Buttercup.
Just as much as you duellists like to make your voices heard, so do we anti-duellists. That’s what discussions are all about – opposing views.
If you read my post you’d see I don’t even care to duel myself, I just think that denying other people that ability because “you don’t like seeing people dueling” is absolutely ridiculous. If you have some legitimate concern about why they shouldn’t be allowed, I respect your opinion. I don’t however, respect the opinion of someone who doesn’t want people to be able to enjoy something simply because they personally don’t like seeing people enjoy something.
My main gripe (besides the attitudes of some of the pro-duellers here) is that the game engine/server clearly can’t even handle drawing more than twenty or so NPCs/players at a time in crowded areas and resorts to extensive culling to keep the visible population down. I’ve noticed that one of the side effects of the costume brawl system is the trade-off between particle effects and the number of visible NPCs/players on-screen. People duelling all over the place would exacerbate that, unless ANet remove culling altogether.
Another problem I have with duelling is that some people want open-world PvP. Whilst it may be consensual, it will result on a lot of people not contributing to the dynamic events because they’re too busy spamming duel requests or showing off instead of contributing to the main battles that are going on.
If you want duels, then fine but restrict them to special arenas and make sure that there is an auto-decline option available by default.
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Yeah lets go for it, spice the game up a bit, other MMO’s can do it why not GW2
So long a both parties agree.
Quite a good PVP open world system is SRO, wth penalties if you murder somebody, sounds bad but actually quite good.
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Vote Yes on Open world Duels
*No dueling areas where players working in cities are at.
*Dueling should be on/off, Off by default
*Prevent players from using chat to ask for duels from players who have it turned off
*option to display the on/off button for dueling in the UI
*DE’s cancel duels
*duels can only start if few non-dueling players are in the area.
For those who thinks duels break immersion. It’s not true. Duels are good for training. And some RH and SP require dueling with NPC’s. I think Dueling fits the theme of the game.
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Definitely a yes.
Definitely no. PvP and PvE is seperate (WvW being an inbetween thing) and should stay that way.
I could agree to a sort of 1v1 arena in the mists or as a sort of mini game in LA or something.
But out in the open world? No, absolutely no.
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add duels to the game pls!
and dont come here and tell me “well duh you can go 1v1 in pvp” thats not what i want to do! i want to be able to duel my friends with my own gear that ive built up myself
and sometimes people get bored.. thats a perfect time for duels as well. so pls add duels in the PvE im begging you.
There’s enough threads on this already, including one just a few posts down from this one – something you would’ve realised if you could even be bothered to search for them.
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well sorry for leaving my opinion then!
The fact that there are so many threads on this makes me sad.
Sad because WHY THE HELL IS THIS NOT IN THE GAME ALREADY!!!!!!
Gosh more than 60 % of the players want dueling. Piece of advice: GIVE IT TO THEM ALREADY!!!!
Don’t know what to do?
Step 1) make it so that you can right click a player in pve and hit a option to duel. After that the player clicked will get the accept duel option yes or no.
Also a command /duel (name). Or /duel @ when the player is selected
2)Make a option in settings that allows players to block any and all duel requests in settings.(for those that have no skill and are easily annoyed)
3) Make it so that people cannot duel in major cities (unless in a specific area at a certain distance from people), and areas with major events
For the actually dueling there is first the request/accept,decline. Then they both get out of 1200 range from each other(duel will not start unless this requirement is met). After that both players will get a thing asking them if they are ready.
When both players hit ready there will be a timer in the middle of the screen counting down from 5. After the timer ends the duel begins.
The duel ends when a player is downed!!!!!!. There is no downed state. That is only good for pve not pvp.
After the player is downed the duel ends. A winner and loser is showed, and both the players are then fully revived
There. done. Simple and easy
People that want duels for pve have it. People that want nothing to do with it can have nothing to do with it.
I know that anet will probably come up with some gem store item that does the exact same thing as what I have typed above.
To that idea I tell anet STOP. DON’T YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.
Anet you should only add things that people want in the gem store. Not things that people want but should already have!!!!!
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Gosh more than 60 % of the players want dueling.
What proof do you have for this? Plucking some random number out of thin air is not proof.
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I agree with Chaos.3579
Gosh more than 60 % of the players want dueling. Piece of advice: GIVE IT TO THEM ALREADY!!!!
I’m sure 60% of players would take free gold too, but it would not improve the game. Players will kitten and whine for anything without really thinking it through. The devs would do good to ignore most of the crap that comes out of this suggestions subforum.
As of tghe last patch dueling is available in the costom maps for sPvP
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The biggest problem with arena-style dueling is how quickly the arena/location becomes stale once you’ve done it enough times. I’d love in world dueling, but I agree that the power spam would be horrid around popular areas. I personally think that (if in-world dueling comes to GW2) it should be disabled in cities, as well as a personal culling effect on the players/powers that are currently participating in the duel. There could maybe be a small event-type window in the top right reading “There is currently a duel taking place in this location, would you like to spectate? Y/N”. Duelists would be able to fight each-other wherever they please in the amazing environments without accidentally harassing those that don’t want anything to do with it. If someone is bothered by a tiny window informing them about something duel-related, they could deactivate the notifications in the options. As for “those people” with the elitist “duel me, scrub” attitude, there’s always the report option for personal harassment and verbal abuse. I say let Anet decide the fate of those horrible human beings.
I’d rather keep dueling in specific spots in the world, but probably it’s mostly because of the bad experiences I had in the other game with people spamming duel requests and following me asking “duel me duel me” when I’m obviously not interested.
There are several areas around the world that seem perfect for duels, like the bane arena in black citadel, the pit on plains of ashford, guardian’s pass in gendarran fields (where you recover Caladbolg in the sylvari personal story) and several others.
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wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.
I find it funny that so many people complain about a system that doesn’t exist. No one is saying that a duel system has to be based around invites. It could be exactly the same system as Costume Brawl. I.e. you set up a (free) “duel box”, and other players can then accept your duel by using the same box.
Which would duels still allow to happen in places where I don’t want them. Keep those anoying effects and sounds out of my field of view, allow them only in certain areas and you can have it, otherwise I am and will always be a no.
Yet people already have costume brawls everywhere, there’s always a box of fun in a city which creates a lot of sound and effects. There’s always people spamming their skills to show off the animations of their weapons, there’s always people using portals and portal guns and even more people using them.
The reasons you guys don’t want dueling are some of the most absurd ones I’ve ever heard.
I mean seriously, of all the things to whine and complain and stamp your feet about it’s combat animations?
" Well I don’t want someone using an ability when I feel they shouldn’t so forget what they want even though it doesn’t even affect me since I can turn duel requests off.
Since I don’t want it no one should have it ever!" /crying tears etc etcThis is basically how this reads.
This. This asinine crap right here is why I don’t want duels to exist in the game. If someone says they don’t want duel this is oftentimes what happens next — they are ridiculed, accused of “crying tears”, told how they think the game is srs bsns… Put someone on ignore and they’ll move to /say or /map. It’s constant, it’s annoying, and I don’t want OPEN WORLD dueling to ever exist in the game.
I don’t care what is done in the mists.
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As for the people whining about how “they don’t want to have to see it”, boo hoo. Suck it up, buttercup. The game isn’t only about you, and you shouldn’t even care about what other people are doing.
This game isn’t only about you either… Buttercup.
Just as much as you duellists like to make your voices heard, so do we anti-duellists. That’s what discussions are all about – opposing views.
If you read my post you’d see I don’t even care to duel myself, I just think that denying other people that ability because “you don’t like seeing people dueling” is absolutely ridiculous. If you have some legitimate concern about why they shouldn’t be allowed, I respect your opinion. I don’t however, respect the opinion of someone who doesn’t want people to be able to enjoy something simply because they personally don’t like seeing people enjoy something.
The concerns that have been expressed are legitimate; they just aren’t legitimate to you and thus you attempt to dismiss them. The balance has already been suggested; open dueling arenas in the Mists. Problem solved.
However, that isn’t what this discussion is really about. It’s about players who get some kind of satisfaction roaming a PvE world engaging in PvP with players who are underleveled and undergeared as “proof” of their uber-leetness. If it was truly about dueling other players on equal footing where neither has a gear advantage over the other, then the solution offered – dueling arenas in the Mists – would be sufficient.
I’d even go so far as to say designated dueling areas in the PvE world would be acceptable, as well. But open world PvP where a duel can happen anywhere in that world? Nope.
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However, that isn’t what this discussion is really about. It’s about players who get some kind of satisfaction roaming a PvE world engaging in PvP with players who are underleveled and undergeared as “proof” of their uber-leetness. If it was truly about dueling other players on equal footing where neither has a gear advantage over the other, then the solution offered – dueling arenas in the Mists – would be sufficient.
If there was open world dueling, I wouldn’t run around challenging low leveled players. No, i would duel my friends on epic locations for the thrill, I would duel with people on my party when waiting to get a dungeon party, I would duel with people who I discuss builds with. Are you saying you have a problem with any of these?
Only fools and heroes charge in without a plan.
No.
Create a separate arena. Call it the Coliseum. Enter the arena and choose to fight or to watch. You can watch duels as a spectator in the audience.
After choosing to fight, choose to fight:
1. Random player -> Enter queue -> Random battle between players upscaled to lvl 80
2. Specific player in party -> Choose player in party
Multiple duels occur simultaneously in separate “rings” or circular raised platforms, where players cannot fall off, so there are no ring outs.
Preferable to have the Arena in the Mists, but would be cool to have one in each major city and/or Lion’s Arch.
Optional: Enable tournament system in "Random player " option with Elo rating system.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
Dueling needs to be implemented. There is honestly ZERO reason for not having it.
Anet can implement an option for ignoring duel requests for those who are afraid of dueling. It’s that simple.
I don’t understand why there would need to be “designated” areas for dueling either. To keep clutter out of cities? Please. People sit there and costume brawl all the time and spam meteor showers 24/7 anyways.
If someone says they don’t want duel this is oftentimes what happens next — they are ridiculed, accused of “crying tears”, told how they think the game is srs bsns… Put someone on ignore and they’ll move to /say or /map. It’s constant, it’s annoying, and I don’t want OPEN WORLD dueling to ever exist in the game.
I don’t care what is done in the mists.
Wrong. Dueling already exists but has to be done in a PvP match. People still ask each other to go there to duel all the time. I don’t see the “trash talk” you speak of because someone turned it down. Also, if your feelings are hurt because of some random person in a video game is calling you names, then report them since it’s against the rules. It’s simple.
People want to be able to duel using WvW/PvE specs, though. Not the dumbed down PvP builds.
Yes, only if the option to auto-decline dual requests was made. But wait, then people would rage when they got auto-declined and start things like “duel me bruh! Why won’t you accept bruh?”.
Ok so then only if the option to auto-decline requests AND open dueling was limited to select areas/arenas. (Black citadel arena, some norn areas have little animal arenas, asurans got the docks I guess, sylvari got the jp right outside the grove near the jp, just places that arn’t heavily populated with events. Let the duelers release their rage off in the distance and not bother anyone.
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Coming from other mmorpgs I just loved encountering myself with a random player and test my skills in a friendly sparr. Especially when you just wanted a quick pvp in your location instead of going into lions arch.
I’ve seen many people complaining they hated when people just spammed the duel option on them.However, there could be an option to toggle off duel invitations for players who don’t want to duel. Thereby, people like myself would enjoy ingame duelling while those who enjoy pve can go on their own without anyone harrassing them.
This is a great idea ! I really miss 1 versus 1 combat against friends and guildies in this game. I hope Arenanet will take notice to this somehow.
I am all for this, and the invitations could also be restricted to specific zones only, like the Bane arena in the Black Citadel for example, if some people fears to have too many duelists fighting in the middle of the cities (another problem that I saw when discussing duels).
Those restricted zones and the anti-invitation toggle would just satisfy every kind of player.
That game need duel’s and arena/colloseum competition…Anet take money from us and now they don’t give a f@ about us…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Open-world-Duels-Yes-or-NO/first
There’s enough of these threads already and you, malau would’ve known this had you bothered to search for them. Your thread adds absolutely nothing new to the discussion and Belias, buying a game does not give you the explicit right to dictate to the developer how they should develop it.
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There have been numerous threads regarding duels. Please follow the above link for further discussion. This thread is closed.
krosslite PvP is not dueling dude!
and how whould this feature be bad for this game? i want to face my friends that i play with challenge him to a duel and use the gear that i got in PvE to see who is the stronges. by that i mean : im not going to go to PvP get some op gear with op runes and sigils for free and get the ugly armor then start a custom match so i can invite my friend just for a fight with gear and other junk that i i got for free and dont even use while i play! so Krosslite your comment is invalid…