Guild Wars 2

People do love duels, just not the elitist creating, smack talking, kitten meter having, kind that you are referring to.

[Edit: An arena for these people is fine as you know exactly what your getting into when you enter. Just don’t do something stupid like Aion did and put quests inside so that randoms can kill you while you PvE..]

jayb.1329:

Hoyvin.3241:

clay.7849:

You most likely won’t be playing GW2 much longer than. It is a known fact that custom arenas will be added to the game and one of those reasons is specifically to add dueling, which the developers think is a good and necessary part of an MMO.

So, is it REALLY worth quitting over dueling if you like the rest of the game?

I doubt many people have an objection to an arena where where players can go and duel, because you have to opt in to something like that. Anyone objecting to that is selfish, IMO. You going off somewhere else to duel doesn’t affect me in the slightest. There is enough desire in the player base to justify developer time in creating an arena for people to duel in, and a way for people to watch those duels.

However, wanting to wave your weenie around Lion’s Arch while labeling those of us that don’t want to be forced watch as selfish is hypocritical in the extreme.

Understand the difference, Clay, or should I go back to ignoring your opinion on the matter? Either way is fine, but I’d just as soon not be uncivil.

i don’t want to wave my weanie around lions arch tho.

i wouldn’t call people who don’t want dueling in lions arch selfish.

i don’t understand what you point is here

I don’t get why you are against an arena for dueling? Can you give me a logical reason why you should be able to duel anywhere instead of an arena other than I want what I want now?

Hoyvin.3241:

jayb.1329:

i’m completely open to hearing any logical reasons people have to oppose dueling

I doubt many people have any objection to you going to an arena to duel. Why do you feel the need to do it elsewhere? Because you want to? An arena gives everyone what they want, except for the weenie wavers who want to do it in the middle of Lion’s Arch and don’t give a rat’s kitten who objects.

what?

why are you assuming that i have a problem with an arena?

i absolutely love that idea and if thats the way they decided to implement it i would be more than happy…

I’m aganst it Because as soon as you get it you will start calling for mass nerfs to classes you do not understand.

Snow White.9680:

jayb.1329:

Snow White.9680:

Look at the majority of the posts from people who are for dueling. That’s the mindset I was talking about. I hate that.

" Shut up! You irritate me!!! You’re selfish!!!" All because those of us against dueling are expressing our opinions and concerns.

lol the irony.

there are extremely annoying people who are in favor of dueling but that doesn’t even begin to take away from our stance

im completely open to hearing any concerns with dueling that don’t fall into the “i don’t want to see it” or the “i don’t want to be spammed with requests” categories.

i’m completely open to hearing any logical reasons people have to oppose dueling

The same reason why people don’t want dps meters and mods like that. It caters to a certain type a player that festers in the community like a slow cancer.

I’m having flashbacks to SWTOR now. The only people that “abuse” dps meters and duels are just the loudest. They definitely aren’t the majority.

As someone who loves minmaxing/improving my gameplay with metric feedback, as well as friendly, competitive duels, i don’t like the idea that i am a cancer on the community.

You want to talk about cancer, you should complain about the small percentage of players that wont let you run cof with them because your not a zerker war/mes.

jayb.1329:

Hoyvin.3241:

jayb.1329:

i’m completely open to hearing any logical reasons people have to oppose dueling

I doubt many people have any objection to you going to an arena to duel. Why do you feel the need to do it elsewhere? Because you want to? An arena gives everyone what they want, except for the weenie wavers who want to do it in the middle of Lion’s Arch and don’t give a rat’s kitten who objects.

what?

why are you assuming that i have a problem with an arena?

i absolutely love that idea and if thats the way they decided to implement it i would be more than happy…

Then I take back my remark, you were making sound like you should ONLY be able to duel antywhere you want whenever.

I am on board then, I would like dueling in an arena style setting.

Ruprect.7260:

jayb.1329:

Hoyvin.3241:

clay.7849:

You most likely won’t be playing GW2 much longer than. It is a known fact that custom arenas will be added to the game and one of those reasons is specifically to add dueling, which the developers think is a good and necessary part of an MMO.

So, is it REALLY worth quitting over dueling if you like the rest of the game?

I doubt many people have an objection to an arena where where players can go and duel, because you have to opt in to something like that. Anyone objecting to that is selfish, IMO. You going off somewhere else to duel doesn’t affect me in the slightest. There is enough desire in the player base to justify developer time in creating an arena for people to duel in, and a way for people to watch those duels.

However, wanting to wave your weenie around Lion’s Arch while labeling those of us that don’t want to be forced watch as selfish is hypocritical in the extreme.

Understand the difference, Clay, or should I go back to ignoring your opinion on the matter? Either way is fine, but I’d just as soon not be uncivil.

i don’t want to wave my weanie around lions arch tho.

i wouldn’t call people who don’t want dueling in lions arch selfish.

i don’t understand what you point is here

I don’t get why you are against an arena for dueling? Can you give me a logical reason why you should be able to duel anywhere instead of an arena other than I want what I want now?

Im not against an arena for dueling.

If i remeber correctly, you’re the guy saying that “dueling is easy just cooridinate a place in wvw to duel”

that i am against because it completely forgoes the point of a dueling option in the first place.
essentially you’re saying “Hey go do all this stuff in order to do this one thing that you would be able to do easily if there was simply an option for it”

Jon Peters likes it, too, btw.

There’s a simple means of implementing Dueling in the game without actually annoying people like myself who don’t care much for it.

Give us an Auto-Decline feature so that player’s can’t pester us with Duels. Badda-boom badda bing, I no longer have to care about people sending me duel requests and life goes on.

Alternatively have it set up in an area outside PvE if the thought of open world dueling is really that blasphemous to people. Either in Heart of the Mists or LA would work fine in my opinion.

jayb.1329:

Ruprect.7260:

jayb.1329:

Hoyvin.3241:

clay.7849:

You most likely won’t be playing GW2 much longer than. It is a known fact that custom arenas will be added to the game and one of those reasons is specifically to add dueling, which the developers think is a good and necessary part of an MMO.

So, is it REALLY worth quitting over dueling if you like the rest of the game?

I doubt many people have an objection to an arena where where players can go and duel, because you have to opt in to something like that. Anyone objecting to that is selfish, IMO. You going off somewhere else to duel doesn’t affect me in the slightest. There is enough desire in the player base to justify developer time in creating an arena for people to duel in, and a way for people to watch those duels.

However, wanting to wave your weenie around Lion’s Arch while labeling those of us that don’t want to be forced watch as selfish is hypocritical in the extreme.

Understand the difference, Clay, or should I go back to ignoring your opinion on the matter? Either way is fine, but I’d just as soon not be uncivil.

i don’t want to wave my weanie around lions arch tho.

i wouldn’t call people who don’t want dueling in lions arch selfish.

i don’t understand what you point is here

I don’t get why you are against an arena for dueling? Can you give me a logical reason why you should be able to duel anywhere instead of an arena other than I want what I want now?

Im not against an arena for dueling.

If i remeber correctly, you’re the guy saying that “dueling is easy just cooridinate a place in wvw to duel”

that i am against because it completely forgoes the point of a dueling option in the first place.
essentially you’re saying “Hey go do all this stuff in order to do this one thing that you would be able to do easily if there was simply an option for it”

Wrong, I want dueling. I just don’t want it to be as easy as right clicking a portrait to request and I do not want it in PvE armor/weapons, that is when the nerfsayers come. I don’t want the fools that like to spam request/whisper for duel for all you stuff??? lolo Still do not know what that means.

Arenas sound like a great solution to me.

PearlGore.7419:

I’m aganst it Because as soon as you get it you will start calling for mass nerfs to classes you do not understand.

this is literally the only good argument i’ve seen against dueling.

i agree but i personally still would like to be able to duel.

Why are people so against dueling? Bad experience from some older games, I get it.
You are happy when you do your daily’s etc. but some players want more. Yes we could go into the Mist, find an empty server(or create a own server or w/e) and duel there. I wouldn’t mind it BUT my char looks hideous in the Mist since I havent been playing sPvP actively since BWE2. PvE look > sPvP look.

Anyways haven’t you ppl ever had some fun with your guildies in other games? Gather up with ppl and hang around, chat and throw in a couple duels. Or practice to get better in PvP, test build, practice against classes etc. I come from a game where we used to do that with my old guild, we practiced alot and it was fun! Get on TS with guildies and talk and duel and laugh and have fun!

Finding duels in WvW is a pain in the kitten and usually gets interrupted by either an enemy zerg, your zerg, smaller enemy teams, your team-mates etc.

Ofc I understand that there are players who will cry over duels they have lost or spamm You for duel requests. Thats why there needs to be an option to block duel requests and if a player spamms you, just block him? Thats what I do in Lion’s Arch to ALOT of players :p.

I really really hope we will get dueling into the game someday. =)

~Lace

I have no interest in duels.

jayb.1329:

what?

why are you assuming that i have a problem with an arena?

i absolutely love that idea and if thats the way they decided to implement it i would be more than happy…

This sort of implies that.

jayb.1329:

you don’t want to see them???? good…look away.
Wp to the place you’re trying to go.
just run past the people dueling and pay them no mind at all.
you have so many options

if people only want duels so other people can watch them…then fine. don’t watch them duel, destroy all their hopes of having people watch them by simply not watching them.

i just solved every single problem you have with dueling besides the fact that you’re probably a selfish kitten

But if we’re of the same opinion, then thread over, I guess.

No Walking.6349:

So you’re going to take out a major part of a game that many players would absolutely love to have, simply so you don’t have to go into your options a single time and check a single box?

Yeah….selfish

So, you’re going to implement a minor part of a game that many players would absolutely hate to have, simply so you don’t have to go into the Mists and and enter an empty PvP server?

Yeah…selfish.

No Walking.6349:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Yeah, I don’t understand the crying about other people having the option to duel, either.

Exactly, with the option to block duel requests in the options it doesn’t affect them AT ALL. Yet here they are QQing about people who love to duel, and saying we should have to go through WAY more trouble than we should have to just to be able to do it.

As long as duel requests can only be made via “whisper”, and there is an auto-block option, I will be fine with adding duelling.

I don’t want mapchat being spammed with duelling requests (which will probably be followed “Are you all afraid to duel me!” spam.)

… of course, all professions would need to be rebalanced so that everybody is equal in 1 vs. 1, which will probably break the game balance even further.

jayb.1329:

The anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things their way.

Bull! Both sides, since you’re not really reading the thread, have agreed that an isolated arena/zone in which duels can occur without infringing upon the PvE environment is acceptable. And the “I only want things my way” element of the anti-duel party is no more egregious than that of the pro-duel side.

I think there is a miscommunication between both sides here.

For months, most of the posts for dueling have been asking for open world PvP.
Pretty much duel anywhere, anytime. If that is not what the posters here are asking for, they need to be a bit more clear.
I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but if players went to go duel in an arena, more power to them. Out of sight, out of mind. In GW1 we used to do it all the time in our guild hall. Dueling anywhere? NO!
In a ga,e I played years ago, can’t even remember the name, if you wanted to duel, you turned on the option. It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.

Personally i would keep dueling limited to arenas (which could be placed around world) so players can gather to known places and not spam duel requests to first person they see on map.
It could go a step further with some betting system, just to spice things up. Betting is already present in-game, only difference is you wouldn’t bet on cows landing spot, so why not?

This thread gets posted at least once a month (usually more often) and my reply to it will be the same as always. It doesn’t fit the lore in pve. In which we are all suppose to be banding together to fight the menace that is/are the elder dragons.

You may say but we have open world skill challenges that require “dueling” but these are placed within the world to test you for the upcoming war and not as a means of defeating the npc thus they always surrender.

I personally have no problem with an arena because this could just be another test to see if your character is ready for the war to come. Having open world dueling however makes a mockery of the lore and instead becomes much more reminiscent of a bar brawl.

Honestly if the mods refuse to merge these threads how bout learning to use the search function.

edit: also ShiningSquirrel.3751’s suggestion would be acceptable as a means of dueling.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.

Because they want to show everyone how “kitten” they are. Other than that, I can think of no logical reason to impose your desire to duel on people who don’t want to see or hear dueling.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

For months, most of the posts for dueling have been asking for open world PvP.

I don’t get why A-Net wouldn’t have a couple PVP servers. That sort of surprised me. I played for a time on a PVP server in Asheron’s Call a hunnert years ago, not my cup of tea, but I dunno why they would just ignore it altogether.

Hoyvin.3241:

jayb.1329:

what?

why are you assuming that i have a problem with an arena?

i absolutely love that idea and if thats the way they decided to implement it i would be more than happy…

This sort of implies that.

jayb.1329:

you don’t want to see them???? good…look away.
Wp to the place you’re trying to go.
just run past the people dueling and pay them no mind at all.
you have so many options

if people only want duels so other people can watch them…then fine. don’t watch them duel, destroy all their hopes of having people watch them by simply not watching them.

i just solved every single problem you have with dueling besides the fact that you’re probably a selfish kitten

But if we’re of the same opinion, then thread over, I guess.

No. Im not against an arena at all. if thats the way Anet would implement dueling then im all for it.

i would however prefer the option to duel wherever i want out in the world if possible. if people wanted to take LA or any other city in the game from the list of places to duel i’d be completely fine with that

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

I think there is a miscommunication between both sides here.

For months, most of the posts for dueling have been asking for open world PvP.
Pretty much duel anywhere, anytime. If that is not what the posters here are asking for, they need to be a bit more clear.
I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but if players went to go duel in an arena, more power to them. Out of sight, out of mind. In GW1 we used to do it all the time in our guild hall. Dueling anywhere? NO!
In a ga,e I played years ago, can’t even remember the name, if you wanted to duel, you turned on the option. It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.

Ya, I agree with this. I didn’t think people were actually talking about open world dueling – I thought we were discussing 1v1 in arenas.

For people that want open world dueling, go roam solo in WvW.

Hoyvin.3241:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

For months, most of the posts for dueling have been asking for open world PvP.

I don’t get why A-Net wouldn’t have a couple PVP servers. That sort of surprised me. I played for a time on a PVP server in Asheron’s Call a hunnert years ago, not my cup of tea, but I dunno why they would just ignore it altogether.

I think that is what WvW is supposed to be.

darkace.8925:

No Walking.6349:

So you’re going to take out a major part of a game that many players would absolutely love to have, simply so you don’t have to go into your options a single time and check a single box?

Yeah….selfish

So, you’re going to implement a minor part of a game that many players would absolutely hate to have, simply so you don’t have to go into the Mists and and enter an empty PvP server?

Yeah…selfish.

so……wanting to be able to play test my pve equipment against other people who don’t even actually have to participate is selfish?

you say it’s simple to go in to pvp and find an empty server and duel somebody…lets just assume that is actually the case…lets assume that people won’t just interrupt your duel.

even assuming those things you still don’t have a good point.

we have to use our completely separate pvp characters in order to go into the mists and duel. that undermines the entire point of having an option to duel….simply so you don’t have to see it?

yeah….selfish

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

…snip
In a ga,e I played years ago, can’t even remember the name, if you wanted to duel, you turned on the option. It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.

If you wanted to go the personal instance option, I would suggest a dual waypoint. Where once you agree to the match you are ported to your own area (even if it were the arena), and when finished you could resume in the open world. This way if you wanted to duel whilst waiting for a dragon to spawn it wouldn’t affect the players around you in the least. You could even have a spectator mode toggle chosen by the duelists if they so choose so other players could spend the day getting hints on how to play a certain class if wanted.

darkace.8925:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.

Because they want to show everyone how “kitten” they are. Other than that, I can think of no logical reason to impose your desire to duel on people who don’t want to see or hear dueling.

so….by that logic….would you also get annoyed if people were fighting skritt somewhere in your vicinity while you were chatting with a buddy?

you absolutely don’t have to deal with it. if it bothers you that much….step away from it

theres no reason that it shouldn’t be implemented because of players like you

clay.7849:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

I think there is a miscommunication between both sides here.

For months, most of the posts for dueling have been asking for open world PvP.
Pretty much duel anywhere, anytime. If that is not what the posters here are asking for, they need to be a bit more clear.
I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but if players went to go duel in an arena, more power to them. Out of sight, out of mind. In GW1 we used to do it all the time in our guild hall. Dueling anywhere? NO!
In a ga,e I played years ago, can’t even remember the name, if you wanted to duel, you turned on the option. It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.

Ya, I agree with this. I didn’t think people were actually talking about open world dueling – I thought we were discussing 1v1 in arenas.

For people that want open world dueling, go roam solo in WvW.

yea….roam solo into a zerg

best duel ever

darkace.8925:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.

Because they want to show everyone how “kitten” they are. Other than that, I can think of no logical reason to impose your desire to duel on people who don’t want to see or hear dueling.

you’re assuming that what people want to do. it’s a really stupid assumption btw.

jayb.1329:

you’re assuming that what people want to do. it’s a really stupid assumption btw.

You have to admit, there are a lot of “dool meh, brah!” people out there. The Goldshire meme didn’t just appear for no reason.

Tommyknocker.6089:

This thread gets posted at least once a month (usually more often) and my reply to it will be the same as always. It doesn’t fit the lore in pve. In which we are all suppose to be banding together to fight the menace that is/are the elder dragons.

You may say but we have open world skill challenges that require “dueling” but these are placed within the world to test you for the upcoming war and not as a means of defeating the npc thus they always surrender.

I personally have no problem with an arena because this could just be another test to see if your character is ready for the war to come. Having open world dueling however makes a mockery of the lore and instead becomes much more reminiscent of a bar brawl.

Honestly if the mods refuse to merge these threads how bout learning to use the search function.

edit: also ShiningSquirrel.3751’s suggestion would be acceptable as a means of dueling.

so…….the fact that these people have to band together in the first place doesn’t indicate that they may have some issues with each other? they may fight about those issues.

i fight against separatists and flame legion all the time. this is not a good argument

like seriously…..nobody ever in the world would ever have a conflict that they would want to fight about but they go around killing perceived enemies all the time?

this is actually stupid

1) Please change title to “Some players want duels” – do not assume any one player represents all constituencies in this game.

2) Please see similar thread in Suggestion Forum from 2 months ago.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Is-it-really-hard-to-add-dueling/first

3) Be prepared for this thread to be moved/merged.

Hoyvin.3241:

jayb.1329:

you’re assuming that what people want to do. it’s a really stupid assumption btw.

You have to admit, there are a lot of “dool meh, brah!” people out there. The Goldshire meme didn’t just appear for no reason.

yes there are i wouldn’t even have to concede that because i’ve been of that mindset the entire time.

but not everybody. idon’t see why those guys have to take away from having an option to duel if there is an auto decline feature

jayb.1329:

idon’t see why those guys have to take away from having an option to duel if there is an auto decline feature

I don’t think they have to, if dueling is implemented the way we’ve discussed.

General question to those of us here on the anti side of this debate: do any of you have a problem with an arena type solution with an auto-decline checkbox in the options tab?

Hoyvin.3241:

jayb.1329:

idon’t see why those guys have to take away from having an option to duel if there is an auto decline feature

I don’t think they have to, if dueling is implemented the way we’ve discussed.

General question to those of us here on the anti side of this debate: do any of you have a problem with an arena type solution with an auto-decline checkbox in the options tab?

I have already said my opinion, but I’ll answer anyway. No problem with arenas. Auto ignore? yeah, good idea.

jayb.1329:

so…….the fact that these people have to band together in the first place doesn’t indicate that they may have some issues with each other? they may fight about those issues.

i fight against separatists and flame legion all the time. this is not a good argument

like seriously…..nobody ever in the world would ever have a conflict that they would want to fight about but they go around killing perceived enemies all the time?

this is actually stupid

They “had” their differences (issues) in the past according to the lore, they have had to work them out and join forces for the good of Tyria according to the story.

Flame legion and separatists are just that, separate, as in working for the elder dragons be it directly or indirectly does not matter.

If conflict between player’s were to erupt it would be taken up by the player’s faction (remember those) from the personal story and the player would have to face judgement from them for “breaking” the truce. Even fights within the same faction would be severely judged as it would be seen as infighting and thus making that faction weaker (something no faction wants).

As to your final comment on the stupidity of my post I will just say that you are just ill-informed as to the facts presented within the personal story so I will just let it slide.

jayb.1329:

so….by that logic….would you also get annoyed if people were fighting skritt somewhere in your vicinity while you were chatting with a buddy?

I wouldn’t, because there’s actually a purpose to fighting a skritt other than bragging rights/trash talking/“look at me!”.

jayb.1329:

theres no reason that it shouldn’t be implemented because of players like you

And there’s no reason that it should be implemented because of players like you. That’s what we call an impasse. All that’s left is for each of us to pray the developers come down on our side of the argument.

Tommyknocker.6089:

jayb.1329:

so…….the fact that these people have to band together in the first place doesn’t indicate that they may have some issues with each other? they may fight about those issues.

i fight against separatists and flame legion all the time. this is not a good argument

like seriously…..nobody ever in the world would ever have a conflict that they would want to fight about but they go around killing perceived enemies all the time?

this is actually stupid

They “had” their differences (issues) in the past according to the lore, they have had to work them out and join forces for the good of Tyria according to the story.

Flame legion and separatists are just that, separate, as in working for the elder dragons be it directly or indirectly does not matter.

If conflict between player’s were to erupt it would be taken up by the player’s faction (remember those) from the personal story and the player would have to face judgement from them for “breaking” the truce. Even fights within the same faction would be severely judged as it would be seen as infighting and thus making that faction weaker (something no faction wants).

As to your final comment on the stupidity of my post I will just say that you are just ill-informed as to the facts presented within the personal story so I will just let it slide.

lol….im ill informed…ok

so you’re saying that theres no way individuals in these order would disagree with each other and have fights?

or better yet they wouldn’t spar against each other? because in essence the dueling we’ve proposed wouldn’t be anything more than sparring since the player wouldn’t lose anything and the losing player would be able to just get right back up and continue on with what he/she was doing previously….

you mean to tell me that these characters go around killing people left and right all day long but somehow there would be a lore breaking uproar over people sparring….
thats stupid

you shouldn’t let it slide. you should tell me how I’m ill informed

darkace.8925:

jayb.1329:

so….by that logic….would you also get annoyed if people were fighting skritt somewhere in your vicinity while you were chatting with a buddy?

I wouldn’t, because there’s actually a purpose to fighting a skritt other than bragging rights/trash talking/“look at me!”.

jayb.1329:

theres no reason that it shouldn’t be implemented because of players like you

And there’s no reason that it should be implemented because of players like you. That’s what we call an impasse. All that’s left is for each of us to pray the developers come down on our side of the argument.

your group of is the only group thinking that every single person that duels is going to be this way….

i can think of a reason it should at least be considered. you on the other hand don’t have any reasons other than you dont want to see it or you dont want to be spammed with requests.

we’ve already proposed solutions to both of those problems…we are not at an impasse

Here’s a link for an answer to duels

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Getting-tired-of-Please-leave-duels/first#post1848865

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Maybe they should implement a PvP server which you can only get to by guesting and where everyone is red to each other. By not making it a home server, you don’t get the problems with people getting ganked at level one and then coming to the forum to complain because they chose a PvP server and it costs money to switch. Everyone who wants to duel can go there and they can assume all the people they meet there want to duel them.

This player does not want duels.

I hated being spammed by duel requests in other games. I hated folks dueling in crowded areas making them more congested. I disliked the attitudes of those wanting/demanding duels in open chat.

No thanks to all of that.

No Walking.6349:

Does anyone seriously prefer having costume brawls over duels? Duels are a huge part of MMOs….

I prefer costume brawls.

I see no reason to duel, Classes are not balanced 1v1, and duels will jsut cause QQ for that to happen, which will never work and will lead to an awful buff/nerf clycle that ruins classes and leads to inevitable homogenisation.

MMOs are massively multiplayer, so I see no reason for individual based pvp./

No Walking.6349:

So if I want to duel another player, I’m going to need to:

1. Find a person, go to the mists, then take them to a PvP server with 0 people in it
2. Create a private server (in the future) and then go through the same process as above
3. Organize with other servers on the forums to meet in WvW
4. Hope to find a group of random players dueling in WvW

This isn’t fair AT ALL. Add an option to block duel requests in the menu for the people who don’t like duels, and give us PvPers the option to duel where and when we want to!

Having duels isn’t fair AT ALL. Add an option to allow duel requests in the menu for the people who like duels an don’t bother the rest of us with any opt out function.
The instant I get a duel request from anyone, anywhere, I will leave this this game.
In other words, don’t force your style of play on me and I will do likewise.

Has anyone suggested adding an upgrade to the gem store which enables dueling for a specific character or account? That would give ArenaNet some incentive to implement it, as well as giving an option to those who want to duel while not involving those who would rather opt out. Furthermore, depending on its price, it will serve to limit the number of people who duel so they don’t drive the whole server crazy. It would also be possible to add further restrictions, like dedicated dueling areas or arenas, even instances. There doesn’t need to be a single instance per duel. One big instance for all duelers should suffice… something like a miniature Lion’s Arch. That way duelers can have an audience, too.

I’m on the fence. While I don’t want to see duels in random places, nor be duel spammed, or block players who whisper me to duel, there are occasions where I may want to duel someone who I know is better than me, just to improve myself.

There have been several people suggesting putting an arena instance in LA or some other map, I agree this is the way to do it. But why stop there?

Make it customizable:
You can have 1v1, 2v2, etc.
Spectators, or no spectators?
Tournament, or just one match?

This way, with the spectator option, you can have some GvG going. Allow spectators to have banners with the guild emblem on it, and cheer on their guild mates.

I would be really happy with a duel system like this.

Sounds like everyone who doesn’t want duels is basing it on the implementation of dueling that they have seen in other games, which frankly sounds nothing like what most people actually want.

I for one would like an arena’d instance, pretty much exactly like the GW1 random arenas, but with a 1v1 option.

Simple

As

That

Doesn’t affect any of you PvE’ers, brawlers, or anyone else…

The wiki shows some upcomming plans, which i look forward to.

Structured PvP:

New maps.

Objectives other than conquest.

Rentable custom arenas in Structured PvP, for customizable scrimmages and duels.

World versus World:

Improving the commander functionality: Being discussed, but not being worked on yet.

Making Siegeweapons not soul bound: Planned, but currently not possible due to internal programming issues.

Dueling: The ability to duel other players in world.

Source: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Upcoming_changes_and_features

jayb.1329:

Gestankfaust.4216:

No Walking.6349:

Costume Brawls (something that nobody does outside of when they have to for dailies) was added before duels…..

What was anet thinking exactly?

I hate duels. I hate the duel system in most MMOs. I have blocked so many annoying “duelists” in other MMOs just for this.

Costume brawls are voluntary. You “suit” up and go. It’s a blast to me because it’s not a bunch of little morons running around asking for duals to ppl that just don’t care to. Almost irritates me as much as the old gold moochers did.

you irritate me

Then my job is done.