Guild Wars 2

Changing dye won’t cost any charge. What you quote was about the preview, how now preview of dye will be much more precise since you can preview different dye on specific part of the armor. Not like right now that you preview a dye and they randomly preview it across your skin.

So unidentified dyes will no longer be drops — in short these will phase out? Can we only get them via laurels?

Also with the blog post, it seems there’s a self-described exploit where every Player can go and set themselves up with 100’s of unidentified dyes when the patch goes live. NOTE: I am not describing how the exploit would occur, but it seems pretty obvious from the blog.

In my case I didn’t dislike the skins but ran out of storage room, so I’m also really interested in whether I’ll have all the gem store stuff I’ve bought unlocked, or if I’ll have to buy it again.

juno.1840:

So unidentified dyes will no longer be drops — in short these will phase out? Can we only get them via laurels?

Also with the blog post, it seems there’s a self-described exploit where every Player can go and set themselves up with 100’s of unidentified dyes when the patch goes live. NOTE: I am not describing how the exploit would occur, but it seems pretty obvious from the blog.

You’ll be able to get the dyes for Bifrost from the Mystic Forge (happy gambling!) or from “rewards” (undefined at this time).

Hmm. Doesn’t seem like unidentified dyes are changing that much. 65 silver right now.

HA — nice job ANet — every single “cheap” dye on the TP has shot up 10x in price.

I’m at a loss of words… “incompetent” is the first that pops to mind though.

Hobbs.9260:

sorry, I have only spent laurels once and that was in LA before it was destroyed, since then I didnt know where else I could.

Every other main city has a Laurel Vendor. The Rata Sum one is pretty easy to find.

juno.1840:

HA — nice job ANet — every single “cheap” dye on the TP has shot up 10x in price.

I’m at a loss of words… “incompetent” is the first that pops to mind though.

I fail to see how it’s Anets fault… you had the same opportunity as everyone else to buy some extra dyes if you wanted.

Every racial city has a laurel dealer. Go to any of them and they are easy to find.

juno.1840:

HA — nice job ANet — every single “cheap” dye on the TP has shot up 10x in price.

I’m at a loss of words… “incompetent” is the first that pops to mind though.

What? Why? Oh come on, you’re just being purposefully complainy.

juno.1840:

HA — nice job ANet — every single “cheap” dye on the TP has shot up 10x in price.

I’m at a loss of words… “incompetent” is the first that pops to mind though.

That’s to be expected when transitioning from one system to a completely new one. What it really means is that there will be a LOT more Unidentified Dyes on patch day which will cause a big price fall on day one. I’m going to move as many dyes as I can today at peak price, then wait for patch day to buy back and hold because the price will eventually go up again.

can’t you craft dyes for the gift?
crafted dyes are not affected t all as far as I understand

mtpelion.4562:

juno.1840:

So unidentified dyes will no longer be drops — in short these will phase out? Can we only get them via laurels?

Also with the blog post, it seems there’s a self-described exploit where every Player can go and set themselves up with 100’s of unidentified dyes when the patch goes live. NOTE: I am not describing how the exploit would occur, but it seems pretty obvious from the blog.

You’ll be able to get the dyes for Bifrost from the Mystic Forge (happy gambling!) or from “rewards” (undefined at this time).

and from crafting …. (see cooking)

ZudetGambeous.9573:

juno.1840:

HA — nice job ANet — every single “cheap” dye on the TP has shot up 10x in price.

I’m at a loss of words… “incompetent” is the first that pops to mind though.

I fail to see how it’s Anets fault… you had the same opportunity as everyone else to buy some extra dyes if you wanted.

Cause and effect is pretty clear. And opportunity is not the same.

It’s pretty obvious from the blog this would happen — any internal review at ANet should have identified it as such. In short, the information regarding dye drops and duplicate dyes should not have been release in the blog. Agreed the same thing would happen immediately after the patch but at that point the entire system is live.

This is not the first time, nor will it be the last. I suspect there are further details not included in the blog that will still impact the market. In some ways that’s worse as it’s almost like a little internal joke around the water cooler at Anet.

you still have 20 days to get the dyes as drops

its better that they gave us this much heads up, it’ll allow the market to resettle.

bri.2359:

and from crafting …. (see cooking)

You can’t currently craft an unidentified dye that is able to be used for the Gift of Color. They may change this, but that’s why I left it off the list.

JakHammer.7094:

In my experience getting dye right Requires changing the colors and going Into the Game. This is both necessary for seeing the actual color and for getting a feel for the best setup on new skins. The Current Preview screen is just Too Small, and does not allow Lighting Changes. I see NOTHING to suggest the new Preview screen is any better.

You’re right, I hate this update now that we have to click one more button to confirm our changes. I hate clicking buttons. I just think MMOs should not have buttons.

Please excuse me for that.

I’m very interested in this question, too. I deleted 2 gemstore armor sets for the same reason as Sitkaz.5463. I’d be glad if the new system could track my purchases and unlock these skins in my wardrobe.

Just reading through the dyes article now.

I have a quick question:

“When you unlock a dye after the feature pack is released, all characters on your account will have unlimited access to that color.”

Does this mean current dye that is unlocked on characters, such as a Celestial Dye that I only have on my Guardian, will not be account bound after this update? Or do current dyes that individual characters own cross over to account-bound dyes? If not, I’m going to be a bit upset.

They could make it possible to craft unidentified dyes, and / or lower the amount of dyes required for the gift of colors.

Your currently “used” Celestial Dye will become account bound so all of your characters will now have it.

Once the patch goes live, all future dyes will be account bound on use.

I think you are gonna be upset since they said only dyes that you have duplicates on more then 1 char currently, will become account bound. So there fore you will most likely need to buy another celestial.

I’m in the same boat I have Abyss and White unlocked currently on only 1 character each so I’m probably going to be stuck having to buy a second one of each if I want to continue using them.

I hope I’m wrong but that’s how I understood it.

My other concern is with unidentified dyes no longer dropping after the patch goes live the amount of dyes available on TP will dwindle fast and prices will skyrocket. In fact they already have, even the super cheap dyes have jumped drastically in price since the blog post went live. I really think they need to rethink this slightly.

conradpedalo.5381:

Would this be considered an exploit to cash in on this unidye bubble?

No, but it’s very short sighted, Laurels are gated, gold is not, you really need gold that quick?

You may have some 300 laurels you don’t need, but if Anet remembers to get something cool up there you’re looking at months to get it.

^ Or achievment-unlocked skins for that matter.

Silencer.7614:

I think you are gonna be upset since they said only dyes that you have duplicates on more then 1 char currently, will become account bound. So there fore you will most likely need to buy another celestial.

I’m in the same boat I have Abyss and White unlocked currently on only 1 character each so I’m probably going to be stuck having to buy a second one of each if I want to continue using them.

I hope I’m wrong but that’s how I understood it.

My other concern is with unidentified dyes no longer dropping after the patch goes live the amount of dyes available on TP will dwindle fast and prices will skyrocket. In fact they already have, even the super cheap dyes have jumped drastically in price since the blog post went live. I really think they need to rethink this slightly.

You misunderstood.

Your Abyss and White dye will be available for ALL of your characters on patch day. If you had learned Abyss on more than one character, you will also get an Unidentified Dye for each extra Abyss you had learned.

Is it a better deal than the T6 bag? At 55 silver per dye, doesn’t seem that big a difference.

Thanks guys, hope this is how it works out (since it wasn’t clearly detailed in the article, unfortunately.)

Yalora Istairiea.6287:

o.O

• Purchased unique skins.
• Decided didn’t like.
• Overwrote the skins.
• Concern over having to re-buy said skins that were not liked in the first place

Why would one consider re-buying skins that they already knows they don’t like?

Because you can only buy them in a complete set. Meaning, I changed my mind on the leggings, and I’m wondering if I’ll have to re-buy the full set or if they have a way of tracking purchases.

Every unlocked dye should be unlocked account wide after patch. But will we be able to stack the newly account bound unidentified dyes with the ones we have now account bound to a 250 stack (from pvp etc)?

TY Mtpelion I reread the article and I see what you mean.

No, you can still make it. Heck it’s probably will still be easier than getting a stack of silver doubloon to make Juggernaut. Yes, i’m still bitter.

Look on the bright side, at least you got a heads up.

juno.1840:

HA — nice job ANet — every single “cheap” dye on the TP has shot up 10x in price.

I’m at a loss of words… “incompetent” is the first that pops to mind though.

What would you have them do?
Silence? To be accused yet again of poor communication?

Just hope the compensation ones are account bound.

We know our gem store purchases are tracked (you can see them in the gem store window) so they’ll be able to tell who bought which armor. We just need confirmation if they’re going to translate that into the wardrobe regardless of where each skin piece is now.

Congratulation to those first people downloaded the game update and bought all dyes by old price! xD

conradpedalo.5381:

Would this be considered an exploit to cash in on this unidye bubble?

No. Take for example crafting dyes in PvP. When you make the dye in PvP, the unid’d dye is account bound. The Laurel ones are not.

Yup you were quick as hell. There were already all at 20+ silver when i figure out the trick to get a kitten load of unidentified dye on the 15th.

Too bad. Stupid work always interfering with GW2 lol

It would be very funny if ANET decides to change their mind and refund the specific colored dyes instead of unids dye for those who unlocked extra

There’s been no downloaded update yet.

It’s all speculation. The thing is, if everyone relists those dyes right now, the supply will gradually increase and profit margins will gradually diminish.

The smart investors will hold onto these until after the feature patch, and either cash in on the increased demand or wait even longer as supply dwindles further.

Does anyone know if this means that if I have 2 chars with the same dye unlocked and if I log on to my other chars, every single one of them will get an unid dye? It’s not very clear on that.

I did this long ago when blogs dates where posted nothing about today’s post made me realize the need for them.

Stars.2179:

It would be very funny if ANET decides to change their mind and refund the specific colored dyes instead of unids dye for those who unlocked extra

That would be a mistake. It would flood the market with specific dye palettes instead of…RNG dyes. It’s this way in order to not crash specific dye markets.

I managed to cash a lot of my laurels for over 100g so I’m quite happy.

I’m willing to bet those unidentified dyes will be account bound like the pvp ones… and a lot of people were expecting them not to be and to resell as unidentified dyes.. once the patch comes and all of those unidentified dyes they receive are account bound, they’ll just open them.. to receive a bunch of common dyes they already have and so in jumping on this “opportunity” they actually just threw away a lot of gold. If I were an investing man.. I’d resell now while other people are unaware of this possibility.. too late!

Arsalan.5240:

Does anyone know if this means that if I have 2 chars with the same dye unlocked and if I log on to my other chars, every single one of them will get an unid dye? It’s not very clear on that.

No.

You have 2 characters that have that dye unlocked, so the 1 instance of the dye would be saved and applied to all characters on patch day.

The 1 extra dye will be converted to an UNID bottle, and that will only occur once.

callidus.7085:

I’m willing to bet those unidentified dyes will be account bound like the pvp ones… and a lot of people were expecting them not to be and to resell as unidentified dyes.. once the patch comes and all of those unidentified dyes they receive are account bound, they’ll just open them.. to receive a bunch of common dyes they already have and so in jumping on this “opportunity” they actually just threw away a lot of gold. If I were an investing man.. I’d resell now while other people are unaware of this possibility.. too late!

even if they were account bound,im still getting several stacks of unid dyes-at least some of them have to be celestial/abyss.
In conclusion $$$$$$$$$$$

Being the genius trader that i am. I suspect people will rush to buy dyes to make the most use of the new system, however as time goes by there will be a increasingly lower demand for them and that will lead to them becoming cheaper than they once were.

Belzebu.3912:

If you look at the image in the article, the dye change cost 0 transmutations.

If you look at the image yes it shows 0 cost, but then we don’t know if any dye was put on the armor in that screen shot, at least on the armor change video we could see the cost change as the dev changed the armor pieces,

As of right now it seriously looks like they are going to add a cost to change armor colour under the new system, it would be awesome for a dev to comfirm whether they are adding a charge to a system which is currently free.

Thaddeus.4891:

Yup you were quick as hell. There were already all at 20+ silver when i figure out the trick to get a kitten load of unidentified dye on the 15th.

Too bad. Stupid work always interfering with GW2 lol

Sadly, but when I wanted to buy 100500 50c dyes to sharewith my alts they already were 20s (

They list a charge cost because you can now preview all the skin transmutations and any dye changes, and then make all the changes at once with a single click.

The cost is there only for transmutations, not dye changes. In that picture the player is changing dye colors, but is not transmuting anything, so the cost is zero.

Windwalker.2047:

callidus.7085:

I’m willing to bet those unidentified dyes will be account bound like the pvp ones… and a lot of people were expecting them not to be and to resell as unidentified dyes.. once the patch comes and all of those unidentified dyes they receive are account bound, they’ll just open them.. to receive a bunch of common dyes they already have and so in jumping on this “opportunity” they actually just threw away a lot of gold. If I were an investing man.. I’d resell now while other people are unaware of this possibility.. too late!

even if they were account bound,im still getting several stacks of unid dyes-at least some of them have to be celestial/abyss.
In conclusion $$$$$$$$$$$

That is gambling… I realize investing and gambling go hand in hand.. but I would not make that particular gamble. There are 2 dyes that you want out of a possible 382 dyes and I don’t believe the “drop rate” of each dye is the same, odds are stacked against you.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unidentified_Dye