Guild Wars 2

Kronos.3695:

Obsidian Lee.1462:

Kronos.3695:

Obsidian Lee.1462:

wow guys, whats wrong? It is pvp daily and it is ok to say u have to win 5 soloq and 3 tq.
1. You dont have to do it everyday
2. You get your chest with the rewards much earlier
3. You will lose like 4 achievment points if u just play pvp for the chest and stop then.
4. It is a PvP daily, every PvP-player get it everyday, easygoing.
5. It is a fair daily for the GW2 PvP

But the rewards from the chests are fail, what should I do with a repaitkit in PvP?!

Ok, now you’re free to read the previous pages of this thread and understand on your own that you’re wrong and that doesn’t exist only your point of view

Im not wrong, it is just my point of view. I know what a Achivementfarmer think about the pvp daily and there are of course more opinions. But for me as 100% Pvp-player this is a good daily system and for PvP-players only it is very hard to get at least some Achievementpoints without doing pve.
Dont think dailys are just for Achievementhunters.

By your answers, all I get is that you didn’t read anything of what we wrote in this thread. I play PvP too, I’m not ONLY an achievement hunter, but I don’t want to be forced to spend up to 4 hours to complete the PvP daily because all I get are random people who join for the 1st time in solo/team arena. I did some tournaments during the year (just 300, but for someone who play many modalities are enough i guess) for fun, and now I’m forced to do it if i want to compete anymore on the AP leaderboards? Sounds as a joke.

What you don’t understand, is that achievement hunters are not random AP farmers, but players, and people playing ALL the modalities in the game, and every content ArenaNet put out. Most of them are leaving the game beacuse of this patch, PvP players aren’t happy about matchmaking, afkers and random players (consequence of the new 4 daily points), and ArenaNet isn’t even here to get us a kitten ed answer on the situation.

I hope that after this, you’ll get our point of view, something regarding PvP players AND achievement hunters.

Andrew.4506:

[…]These new dailies are almost universally hated… why don’t you guys actually listen to your players?

It’s what we’re asking ourselves since the start of the thread.

Yeah, exacly 5th match in row lose in soloq, becouse i have low ranks in my team every next time.. Low ranks I mean 1-10 when rest of us got 40+

Yeah I love how ANET is responding to other threads, or even troll/silly post yet they completely ignore us and it comes off wrong. These dailies need to be toned down or I’m probably going to find something more enjoyable to play and casual to play. I didn’t mind doing 1-3 hours a day for my daily and still have time to play with my friends and do things I wanted to do aside from achievements I didnt want to to keep my rank that I wanted to keep up. I stayed comitted to my dailies since launch (well a few months after once I realised the salvaging wasn’t actually infintie and my dailies had real value) and now after a year they drop a bomb on us and say you have to double or tripple your playtime to maintain your achievement ranks. I don’t see the logic there.

Now this update is taking the fun out of the game for me. Either I have to commit too much time doing my daily and therefore it’s no longer worth my dedication towards the ladderboards or the game that I’ve spent a lot of time on or I just need to take my money elsewhere where I can casually play well and do well without being forced to grind 6 hours a day and I’m sure a lot of others are in the same boat because ANET thought it was a brilliant idea to add 8 WINS PER DAY towards achievement grinders who have jobs, families etc. and now we are expected to play 3 EXTRA hours a day to maintain our ranks that we’ve worked on for the past YEAR. If it was this way at launch then I would have choosen then if it was worth it or not. Instead if this stays I’ve wasted a lot of time doing dailies for the past year because I don’t see myself staying committed to this torture time game anymore. 6 hours a day is too much towards dailies.

I’m really disgusted at this subject, the no response or change yet, and I could care less about all the bad trolls in these forums. If anything, this update just brought a lot of bad players to the spvp games and is irritating the trolls on the forums/legit players more than anything lol, least today I won 8 matches and lost 1 match so it was much quicker than yesterday where I probably won 8 and lost 8 or more -.-

People make themselves slaves, and make their lives miserable for few points in a game nobody even cares about. Humanity has to extinct. It just has to.

Romek.4201:

this thread is soooooo funny^^

seriously guyz – wait for the storm when arenanet bring the rewards you can get in spvp only for being good

oooh the QQ from all this people who think they deserve everything just for buying the game^^

Whats funny is you. Most of the achievement players at the top are all GOOD sPvP players. I realize a lot of people lack the logic that some people play all game modes, not just one like you might. There have been a lot of achievements that were harder than these but much faster and easier(granted you were good) to earn, like crab toss win during the living story every single day, or throwing 8 crystals at lidari. All of these harder achievements mean you can play well, even sPvP. If they weren’t good or decent at the game they wouldn’t be among the top ranks to begin with.

Sorry for your lack of logic pal, not the first time you’ve posted something trollish and sad.

Adris.1859:

People make themselves slaves, and make their lives miserable for few points in a game nobody even cares about. Humanity has to extinct. It just has to.

I’ve read many of those post… why don’t you find something constructive to do than sit on here and preach to people what people already know, you clearly have no business here because this doesn’t effect you since you don’t see the issue of changing the daily from a 1-3 hour project to a 4-6+ hour project which isn’t nice to people who have commited their time for the past year+ doing them.

I’m not a slave, I choose to do them and have for the PAST YEAR, however due to poor decisions AFTER A YEAR TIME FRAME as I’ve said if this doesn’t change I’ll likely quit all together because doing what few people like yourself can’t do or commit to, I enjoy and like. I’ve done ladderboards in other games too. But the change is too much of a change time wise to continue on and will no longer be worth it because I have a job, family and friends and I don’t have 8 hours a day to play to garentee I get everything done.

Everyone that plays this game does something they don’t want to to earn something else so you might as well call 99% of the game slaves. People queensdale farm for gold which they dont really want to do to earn something like a legendary or gemstore items. People level a character to 80 without liking any game modes. It’s no different than people willing to do achievements they dont want to do to earn the satisfaction of a high leaderboard rank which becomes worth it.

Again, logic check here… the problem is the sudden time increase to dailies, not the fact that we don’t want to do them, don’t mind hard achievements, or win achievements.

save your breath guys
they already ignore you for a week.

A.net just want you guys who earning AP so hard all quit out this game
They’re helping you to find you self a better life( or better game) !

how nice!

Did no one actually notice it was 5 TOTAL wins? :/ gg stop saying 8 already

lionmagunas.8401:

save your breath guys
they already ignore you for a week.

Well, they already said they aren’t going to do any patches til sometime in January. So even if they cared at all about their playerbase it’s going to be like this for another month or so.

OK now I understand daily from Anet, its time what u need to spend in game and do exacly what they want. And u have to spend in game 24h every day.

Darnis.4056:

Did no one actually notice it was 5 TOTAL wins? :/ gg stop saying 8 already

Did you not notice its 5x SoloQ and 3x TeamQ wins = total of 8 wins?

I sincerely believe that Anet was not aware of the consequences that would result from these additional achievements. Not only is it a massive time commitment that most players can not spare, it is also leading to a lot of angrier than usual players and I have seen a significant increase in pvp rage as a result; making the games much less enjoyable for everyone.

The last time they added tournament wins to the dailies there were reverted back in shortly after and I feel that this would be the case with these new ones too. The only problem is that there may very well be no one at Anet over the holiday period and we may be left with these for an extended period of time.

I believe the best thing for Anet to do is to revert the daily back whilst they still have people in the office. When they have the time they can then rethink them and hopefully bring out some suitable alternatives. The main thing is that we should not be left with these controversial achievements over an extended holiday period. They are causing a lot of stress and angst for many players who would ordinarily be looking forwards to their holidays and some free time to play GW2.

Osi.3504:

I have a job, family and friends and I don’t have 8 hours a day to play to garentee I get everything done.

So there is still hope. You should be happy. It might be a turning point for you.

Adris.1859:

Osi.3504:

I have a job, family and friends and I don’t have 8 hours a day to play to garentee I get everything done.

So there is still hope. You should be happy. It might be a turning point for you.

Watch out it’s the Hardy Boyzzzz

Andrew.4506:

lionmagunas.8401:

save your breath guys
they already ignore you for a week.

Well, they already said they aren’t going to do any patches til sometime in January. So even if they cared at all about their playerbase it’s going to be like this for another month or so.

thanks for the info, but your info freak me out totaly.

OH MY FXXXXKING GOD this nightmare still have a LOOOOOOONG time to go.

this thread should be on first page until we have a respond

need more ap for the new 4 achievements.

1 ap for each is too low.

Increase AP for extra daily isn’t solution for us. But time to do it every day it is.

they should remove all time gated archievements from leaderboard like dailys + living story

than i would understand to even trie to be in this leaderboard

but as it is now its no way competive and wasting of time to do everything just to be in this board – new players never will have a chance to even be in top 1000 cause missed all this dailys

this leaderbaord is uselss – play the game not the dailys

It shows who spent most effort on the game since release.

no it doesnt

there are other things like 3k+ tournaments won like 10k + gold like wvw kills or other wvw archievements and whatever to be maby something like “Prestige-objects”

farming dailys dont show anything

would be same when you write /age ingame and say to your mate “look im cooler i played longer”

seriously^^

Osi.3504:

Romek.4201:

this thread is soooooo funny^^

Whats funny is you. Most of the achievement players at the top are all GOOD sPvP players. I realize a lot of people lack the logic that some people play all game modes, not just one like you might. There have been a lot of achievements that were harder than these but much faster and easier(granted you were good) to earn, like crab toss win during the living story every single day, or throwing 8 crystals at lidari. All of these harder achievements mean you can play well, even sPvP. If they weren’t good or decent at the game they wouldn’t be among the top ranks to begin with.

Sorry for your lack of logic pal, not the first time you’ve posted something trollish and sad.

Uhm no. Being good at PvE and having alot of APS doesn’t mean you’re good at PvP. Just not.

this achievement hunters are so funny lol….

Quincy.2198:

Osi.3504:

Romek.4201:

this thread is soooooo funny^^

Whats funny is you. Most of the achievement players at the top are all GOOD sPvP players. I realize a lot of people lack the logic that some people play all game modes, not just one like you might. There have been a lot of achievements that were harder than these but much faster and easier(granted you were good) to earn, like crab toss win during the living story every single day, or throwing 8 crystals at lidari. All of these harder achievements mean you can play well, even sPvP. If they weren’t good or decent at the game they wouldn’t be among the top ranks to begin with.

Sorry for your lack of logic pal, not the first time you’ve posted something trollish and sad.

Uhm no. Being good at PvE and having alot of APS doesn’t mean you’re good at PvP. Just not.

Having a lot of APs means that you do play PvP. Of course some AP hunters just farmed hotjoin for their PvP dailies, but most of us went in tournaments instead because there are achievements to be done there (its also the best way to increase your rank for those like me that despised the skyhammer expoit farm). It makes us at least experienced PvP players, not the “PvE scrubs” you and other people seem to see us as.

Romek.4201:

no it doesnt

there are other things like 3k+ tournaments won like 10k + gold like wvw kills or other wvw archievements and whatever to be maby something like “Prestige-objects”

farming dailys dont show anything

would be same when you write /age ingame and say to your mate “look im cooler i played longer”

seriously^^

to get top 100 you have to do the most tedious aspects the game has to offer, winning 3k tournament games looks like a vacatation to me in comparison :p
doing all dailies daily if possible definatly takes more effort than winning 3k tournaments, which can even been done at your own pace, without time gating.

i bet i have more archievements than most of this archievement hunter when delete this time gated archievements^^

BUT for me i cant see the point to do all this useless daily stuff all day or even this living storyevents – they are just boring and i dont see a point to do this

i play the game but i dont let force me from arenanet “when” or “how often” i have to play

edit: before you say i dont know what im talking bout i have 5,561 hours played^^

stop to care for timegated crap and game makes more fun – ignore this timegated crap and arneanet dont bring it anymore^^

this thread is rocking. 374 replies so far. lol

Romek.4201:

i bet i have more archievements than most of this archievement hunter when delete this time gated archievements^^

BUT for me i cant see the point to do all this useless daily stuff all day or even this living storyevents – they are just boring and i dont see a point to do this

i play the game but i dont let force me from arenanet “when” or “how often” i have to play

edit: before you say i dont know what im talking bout i have 5,561 hours played^^

stop to care for timegated crap and game makes more fun – ignore this timegated crap and arneanet dont bring it anymore^^

And you probably spent 3000 of thouse hours using the trading post to your advantage and 1000 hours afk

which one will take more times?
daily PVP or monthly PVP?

malediktus know me^^

tp so time consuming^^ – nerf tp

this thread should be on first page until we have a respond

So I’ll give you my feedback about this new daily achievments for pvp.
Firstly, I would like to say that whole daily system reward is stupid as hell. It should looks like: you have list of achievments (like right now) and you will get max 5 achievment points for doing this. To make this game more fun, if you will make more than 5 achievments from this list, you will get better daily reward (more Karma for example or something like that).
Now lets talk about this new PVP daily. I think that Team Arena’s are not bad. Actually I enjoy doing this with my guild mates. BUT if we are talking about Solo Arenas….
Its totally random if you win or not. Personally I dont see ANY single reason to make these 5 wins for daily.

So tedious to do this daily. I no longer got any time to spend more time in WvW than needed to the dailies!

No other topic on the spvp forum has even close to this number of replies. The outcry from players is overwhelming. The anet staff watches in silence.

Remove these stupid dailies.

maybe its because almost 300 of the replies are from the same 10 posters.

Maybe because there arent terrible many achievement hunters left after all the stuns anet pulled over the months, and of the smallish amount only a minority also uses the forums. I can assure you I talked to some ingame who are dissatisfied also, but they cant be bothered to use the forums.

Malediktus.9250:

Maybe because there arent terrible many achievement hunters left after all the stuns anet pulled over the months, and of the smallish amount only a minority also uses the forums. I can assure you I talked to some ingame who are dissatisfied also, but they cant be bothered to use the forums.

+1

Not all of the players are forum users.

These are horrible.

Due to lengthy waits for matchmaking, I am only getting to play 4 matches in an hour.

I’ve been winning 60% of the time, but the math checks out: It really could take 4 hours to complete the pvp daily.

Would strongly love it if the daily was changed to tournaments instead of solo q and team q, this would give you a choice in how to complete the achievement.

And, again, does it really benefit sPvP for a bunch of PvE grinders (uninterested in pvp, interested in rewards) invade? The addition of PvE grinders made the WvW season very painful for all involved.

not all those who like the change are forums users either. There have been post from some saying they don’t want them removed or they like them. I can assure you I have talked to people in the game that like them. Is the desire of those who wish to change things about the game others like, more important?
Of course it is, all one has to do is read this thread and see how there is a group of people who feel anet should kiss their butts, since they are obviously are the only dedicated group of players. They are the only ones who buys gems, only ones who play more than a few hours a day. Its just not possible there are other types of players.

william dj.6953:

not all those who like the change are forums users either. There have been post from some saying they don’t want them removed or they like them. I can assure you I have talked to people in the game that like them. Is the desire of those who wish to change things about the game others like, more important?
Of course it is, all one has to do is read this thread and see how there is a group of people who feel anet should kiss their butts, since they are obviously are the only dedicated group of players. They are the only ones who buys gems, only ones who play more than a few hours a day. Its just not possible there are other types of players.

Hence I was asking someone from Arena to just make a simple statement regarding this issue. Something like “We believe new dailies will bring more people to sPvP and we think it is working as intended and going to stay as is for now.” would be OK. I would know that I am no longer a target group of Arena and I need to go look somewhere else. And frankly there is nothing wrong with that, they cant please everyone. One day or the other I am going to be part of that collateral damage. Its bad for me but what can I do? They could also say that they are going to re-evaluate those dailies which possibly would made to wait and see. However I am not ready to give them a benefit of the doubt and I interpret lack of response as exactly same as the worst (for me) possible response. Since I have an issue with a game, I left it, as are many other people leaving many games when they have issues with them. I probably wont be back (for sure not to play hardcore) if the current daily system stays unchanged. If however Arena believes that their design is working well for the greater good, I wish them and people who are enjoying this design good luck.

Not stupid at all I believe, this is how PvP should be played in conquest.

stopped reading any post regarding any comments I make since I know its the same tired old thing any who, I believe you may find the answer to if there will be any change to the current system. They didn’t come out and say anything about ap. but its clear they are happy about the population change. and we all know why that is. around 16min on http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/3423904

william dj.6953:

stopped reading any post regarding any comments I make since I know its the same tired old thing any who, I believe you may find the answer to if there will be any change to the current system. They didn’t come out and say anything about ap. but its clear they are happy about the population change. and we all know why that is. around 16min on http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/3423904

Well considering that they started to revamp the PvP rewards in that patch and a bunch of balance changes were thrown into it, there is no wonder that PvP participation went up. You can level your alts by sPvP now. You can get a bit of gold as well. More rewards are on the way as well. Remember what happened for 1-2 weeks after the WvW season 1 start? Queues were through the roof then. But it all went back to “normal” after a few weeks. Anyway I could say even more, it is quite possible that those new sPvP dailies are boosting the sPvP participation. But are they boosting the overall game activity, QoL and players satisfaction? I would say that it is debatable. But anyhow I would just be happy to get a single dev acknowledgement here. If they are happy about it, good for them. I will say this once again. I will totally accept the fact that the game is no longer (or never was?) designed with priniciples that happen to suit my priorities. I cant have all games my way. I just need to pick those which fits my way the best they can. I would just be glad to hear a word from arena abount concerns from a portion (even if small one) of their playerbase (AP hunters).

william dj.6953:

stopped reading any post regarding any comments I make since I know its the same tired old thing any who, I believe you may find the answer to if there will be any change to the current system. They didn’t come out and say anything about ap. but its clear they are happy about the population change. and we all know why that is. around 16min on http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/3423904

Considering the low PvP population it is no wizard work to double the population. Especially with all the achievement hunters coming and trying to do the dailies. But the population is raising because of the wrong reasons, not because people enjoy spending 4hours a day in tPvP, but because they have to for the dailies. I have yet to find an achievement hunter ingame who was happy with the new time requirements to get everything done.

What most of you aren’t understanding, it’s that we simply want an answer from the dev, from this “situation”, and after 10 days we want to know if we can spend time to be achivement hunters anymore. A single word from any dev to clarify their point of view would be enough for everyone, i guess.

PvP popolutation isn’t good beacuse people are enjoying the game mode, but for the dailies and the rewards they get with the new glory+gold system.

And, if we really want to be polite, you can complete almost every PvE daily (and with complete i obviously mean doing all the points, not the 5 required) in about 1 hour, but you can’t complete the PvP daily in LESS THAN 2 hours (considering every match played as won, almost impossibile in join-solo). Is that normal for you? Is that equal? I don’t think so.

And, I won’t be tired to say it once more: what we need, and what everyone need right now, it’s a dev reply about this situation, to let us choose if continue playing in this way, playing randomly or simply choose another game.

Kronos.3695:

What most of you aren’t understanding, it’s that we simply want an answer from the dev, from this “situation”, and after 10 days we want to know if we can spend time to be achivement hunters anymore. A single word from any dev to clarify their point of view would be enough for everyone, i guess.

PvP popolutation isn’t good beacuse people are enjoying the game mode, but for the dailies and the rewards they get with the new glory+gold system.

And, if we really want to be polite, you can complete almost every PvE daily (and with complete i obviously mean doing all the points, not the 5 required) in about 1 hour, but you can’t complete the PvP daily in LESS THAN 2 hours (considering every match played as won, almost impossibile in join-solo). Is that normal for you? Is that equal? I don’t think so.

And, I won’t be tired to say it once more: what we need, and what everyone need right now, it’s a dev reply about this situation, to let us choose if continue playing in this way, playing randomly or simply choose another game.

maybe they just no dare to answer that.

Anet should balance time spend between PvE and PvP achievements or reduce PvP cause 8 victories per day finish monthly in 4 days.

Kenny.3476:

this achievement hunters are so funny lol….

Actually, I feel sorry for them. Some incredibly strong evidence of gaming addiction in this thread.

I usually get my PvP daily reward chest within the first hour I PvP after the reset, without even realizing it. It’s incredibly easy. The other achievements I never get because I don’t play enough, and so what? It’s not necessary to do everything.

Reminds me of the people who complain about the “grind” for certain items, which are also entirely optional and unnecessary.

Do people here really think anyone cares about their place on the “achievement leaderboards”? Really?

There’s never any end of carrots to chase and the people who cannot stop themselves from compulsively doing it even when it’s not fun need to get some real world help.

I am more amused about people telling us we dont have to do everything.

Malediktus.9250:

I am more amused about people telling us we dont have to do everything.

What’s amusing about it? Too simple and honest — and true?

People saying so are intolerant towards other playstyles / playing habbits.