Guild Wars 2

Time to get some zerker stuff for my ranger and run this.

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

I just had an orgasm

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

Awesome.

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

See how easy it is to make us happy?

Chopps.5047:

T_T I’m just so…happy!

Lol, you made me laugh out loud at work.

I bet nobody expected THIS!

Hmm .. personally i only see a damage decrease compared to now where i often directly start with 20 stacks of vulnerability.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but this patch makes me bring my dear Norn Ranger main back from 3 month hiatus.

Well played, ArenaNet, well played.

dont know if the changes will be good or enough because i have them tried but at least they are trying to fix the class so i think even if is not turn out to be that good, at least we know they are trying.

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

Most elementalists run D/D, which is already mobile and tanky enough. I don’t think they need a buff to mobility, tyvm.

Aether McLoud.1975:

eles cannot have mobility?

Wait what?

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

I was going to make a thread called Ranger QQ imminent, looks like i was right lmao. Let them volleys fly.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

Most elementalists run D/D, which is already mobile and tanky enough. I don’t think they need a buff to mobility, tyvm.

1 skill on a 40 seconds cooldown does not equal mobility when everyone else has the same skill on 12 seconds cooldowns.

as a ranger running axe/axe + GS or S/W im really happy with these changes
and im also happy for those loving longbow

Shout out to Anet!

p.s. Can we also get viable mainhand melee weapon? I mean all that ‘fix root on sword’ ‘rolling off the cliff’ ‘jumping around the target like crazy’ thing. New mainhand weapon like dagger would be amazing!

Thanks again for steps in the right direction!

A Realistic observation :::

Anet :: “Alright, we Cave. We’ll listen to the community and combine LB Skills 2 and 3, and redo skill 3. We’ll also give the Ranger a Blast Finish, and we’ll do some other cool things like give them Retaliation when using Whirling defense.”

The Rangers of Guild Wars 2 : “Yeah Anet! WooHoo! You are Awesome! The Ranger is the Best Class Evar now! YAY!”

….2 weeks later…..

The Rangers of Guild Wars 2 : “ZOMG! We Hate you Anet! The Ranger Sucks! Its the Worst Class Ever! I’m Rage Quitting! You Need to make our worthless pets stronger! Why don’t we do enough damage with Long bow!?! OMG!”

On another note entirely though that isn’t insulting in any way….

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

Instead of using Stealth to start off Barrage, I was thinking of using it in WvW to run into a group of players, use Entangle, then dodge out of the way and let my group ram into them…, or immediately use Barrage with a Zerker build before anyone knows what hit them.

I already used this to great effect in WvW without the stealth, I’ll flank the Group and run straight into them using Entangle, then immediatly use Barrage. Normally half of them are already downed before they knew what hit them because rarely does a group of players pay attention to their sides or behind, only whats directly infront of them!

Skady.5916:

p.s. Can we also get viable mainhand melee weapon? I mean all that ‘fix root on sword’ ‘rolling off the cliff’ ‘jumping around the target like crazy’ thing. New mainhand weapon like dagger would be amazing!

also, I want to say that I like the sword the way it is, especially the rooting, and the jumping around the target like crazy,….but randomly jumping off of a cliff is starting to get a little old. And Please, God! No Dagger! Make a weapon that is actually useful, unique and not Thief-like in any way!

Sooo… when will this happen? I’m in EU and no update running…

1 autoshot→Rapid Fire→point Blank→hunters shot→swoop→Hilt Bash→maul

xDDDD

Aether McLoud.1975:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

Most elementalists run D/D, which is already mobile and tanky enough. I don’t think they need a buff to mobility, tyvm.

1 skill on a 40 seconds cooldown does not equal mobility when everyone else has the same skill on 12 seconds cooldowns.

Pretty much this.

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

I am so wet right now.

Omg…. To think i was considering playing an engi over my ranger again, i’ve never been so wrong in my life!!

My two Favorite weapons (longbow and war horn) just got buffed big time!! THIS IS AMAZING!!

move the call of the wild blast finisher to maul, make something with pets and spirits (or remove/change them), do something with sword1, axe 1-4(thief short bow is better from 900 range) and we will happy

Aether McLoud.1975:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

Most elementalists run D/D, which is already mobile and tanky enough. I don’t think they need a buff to mobility, tyvm.

1 skill on a 40 seconds cooldown does not equal mobility when everyone else has the same skill on 12 seconds cooldowns.

cracks knuckles

Okay, let’s type out what D/D elementalists have for mobility (both weapon wise and slot skill wise)

Burning Speed (Fire #3)
Ride the Lightning (Air #4)
Lightning Flash
Mist Form (you’re immune for 3 seconds)

Most classes would kill for that many mobility options. Every other class is on a short cooldown because they don’t have as many options…save for thief, but that class was built for mobility.

Can’t wait for this patch to take effect. Shoot someone and vanish>use jaguar and also vanish. LOL as he runs around confused.

McWolfy.5924:

move the call of the wild blast finisher to maul, make something with pets and spirits (or remove/change them), do something with sword1, axe 1-4(thief short bow is better from 900 range) and we will happy

Depends on your playstyle and goals. Axe does a lot more damage than shortbow, has the same range, has effectively the same first 3 attacks. If you aren’t going condition, it’s infinitely better than shortbow or longbow as far as damage is concerned. But that’s looking at strictly ranger shortbow vs axe and the idiocy of making shortbow 900 range.

Now when you compare it across classes, that’s not very fair. Obviously evasive shot is insanely useful and considering the ranger has no burst potential at all, explosive shot looks great too. But you can’t comapre other classes that easily.

Aether McLoud.1975:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

Most elementalists run D/D, which is already mobile and tanky enough. I don’t think they need a buff to mobility, tyvm.

1 skill on a 40 seconds cooldown does not equal mobility when everyone else has the same skill on 12 seconds cooldowns.

So now you opened 2 threads about this and continue your crying in the ranger forum…It may be all ok with the mobility and stuff, but what on earth does this have to do with the new stealth of rangers, we were really hit by nerfs and nerfs and now 3s of stealth is so cry-worthy? srsly

After playing a ranger in sPvP for awhile I finally decided to lvl one up for WvW and got a sweet Jade Dragon Longbow skin to go with it. I was doubting my decision and thinking maybe I should have gone with Shortbow, but after that stealth Hunter’s shot it’s gonna be all good.

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

maybe cry more in ele’s forum and ANet might just grant your wish.

Beldin.5498:

Hmm .. personally i only see a damage decrease compared to now where i often directly start with 20 stacks of vulnerability.

Yeah, I was wondering about this. Used to be, Hunter’s Shot, 10 stacks of vuln right away, so every hit of Rapid Fire got the full 10 vuln from that. If the new Rapid just adds 1 stack per hit, the 10 stacks only apply to the last hit, for a net loss in total damage?

Maybe there are other factors? Or is it more than 1 vuln per hit with the new Rapid Fire (notes don’t say and I’m at work).

Joiry.2504:

Beldin.5498:

Hmm .. personally i only see a damage decrease compared to now where i often directly start with 20 stacks of vulnerability.

Yeah, I was wondering about this. Used to be, Hunter’s Shot, 10 stacks of vuln right away, so every hit of Rapid Fire got the full 10 vuln from that. If the new Rapid just adds 1 stack per hit, the 10 stacks only apply to the last hit, for a net loss in total damage?

Maybe there are other factors? Or is it more than 1 vuln per hit with the new Rapid Fire (notes don’t say and I’m at work).

Yea, that would be the traited crit every 9.5s

Aether McLoud.1975:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

Most elementalists run D/D, which is already mobile and tanky enough. I don’t think they need a buff to mobility, tyvm.

1 skill on a 40 seconds cooldown does not equal mobility when everyone else has the same skill on 12 seconds cooldowns.

The fact that you don’t know how to move on an ele is not ANet’s fault, it’s simple L2P.

Well smack my !@# and call me Sally! Blast Finisher and Stealth?!

I might finally knock the dust off my Ranger and give er a test drive!

Aether McLoud.1975:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

So it’s ok for rangers to have stealth now, but eles cannot have mobility? My double standard sense is tingeling.

Please, just leave.

Ele’s have some of the best mobility in the game. This is clearly a L2P issue on your end Aether.

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On topic. Totally dusting off my ranger, rebooting, re-gearing, re-funding and giving her a whirl.

Glad I didn’t delete her. Thanks Anet for listening! <3

Anyone know how much vulnerability maul and rapid fire got? I don’t really want to be a pessimist, but if maul got 3 stacks for 6 seconds, you’ll need 4,250 dps on the target to get the same damage as the bleed. This is easy in a group setting, but when you’re on your own you might see a drop in dps.

Similarly, rapid fire can’t be used as often as hunter’s shot when you take activation time into account, so if they kept the same duration on the vulnerability, we won’t keep as many stacks on the target in PvE. There’s also the initial buildup and the fact that rapid shot is not a a good attack to use if you can hit your target from max range.

These are good PvP changes, I’m just not sure if we’re coming out ahead on the PvE side of things.

Has anyone tried the stealth in game? Does the pet stealth as well or only the ranger?

All I can see is this:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on HUNTERS also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

Holy cow. I am so happy. I can play my ranger again!

My Sweet Lily.1952:

All I can see is this:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on HUNTERS also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

lol the skills called Hunter’s Shot, he’s probably saying Hunters as in the skill, not the prof.

I am really really happy about longbow changes, but I still doubt if longbow is viable aside from full zerker.

BlusterWolf.2103:

I am really really happy about longbow changes, but I still doubt if longbow is viable aside from full zerker.

It is, thanks to the june update, that removed some of the damage from pets, and basically gave it to the longbow.

BlusterWolf.2103:

I am really really happy about longbow changes, but I still doubt if longbow is viable aside from full zerker.

Longbow has been my weapon of choice since late beta, it has soooooo much support for your team, and now it’s got some kittening teeth too!! Ohohoho am i going to bust peoples faces open now!! And keep in mind with remorseless and quickdraw we have a guaranteed crit every 9.5s, so we don’t need crit chance, trade that kitten in for a defensive stat, take valk gear, profit

Great patch to the Ranger, indeed changing the vuln from LB #3 to #2 is kind of a nerf for static enemies (pve) is great for pvp, also the new stealth to LB #3 with Remorsless will make it for the vuln “nerf”.

With Wh #5 now being a blast finisher I’m more than happy, will give a nice boost to healing spring or the poison fields from some pets.

the new stealth integration really makes me feel like a hunter stalking his prey. Great Job Anet!

Kilandros.2098:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

Awesome.

I don’t think that makes any difference at all, most players will dodge out of any red ring as soon as they see it appear. All the more so if they don’t know what’s coming. Stealth will be great for many purposes (escaping, re-positioning, gaining range, entangle bombing, trap setting, infiltrating in PvE), but I don’t think barrage is one of them.

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

The bigger question is whether or not they will have to land an attack with Hunter’s Shot to go stealth.

Did you make it an in-combat skill-based stealth or a spammy-spammy 3 second stealth every 12 seconds regardless of the situation?

Kasama.8941:

It is, thanks to the june update, that removed some of the damage from pets, and basically gave it to the longbow.

I agree with you 50% on that.

Redscope.6215:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

The bigger question is whether or not they will have to land an attack with Hunter’s Shot to go stealth.

Did you make it an in-combat skill-based stealth or a spammy-spammy 3 second stealth every 12 seconds regardless of the situation?

It’s no question, just read the notes : “This skill no longer applies vulnerability ON EACH HIT, but now grants the ranger stealth for 3 seconds.”

Tadayoshi.2815:

Redscope.6215:

JonPeters.5630:

Among other benefits the stealth on hunters also let’s you cast the beginning of barrage without detection.

The bigger question is whether or not they will have to land an attack with Hunter’s Shot to go stealth.

Did you make it an in-combat skill-based stealth or a spammy-spammy 3 second stealth every 12 seconds regardless of the situation?

It’s no question, just read the notes : “This skill no longer applies vulnerability ON EACH HIT, but now grants the ranger stealth for 3 seconds.”

That means it’s vulnerability per-hit is removed. It doesn’t mean it requires a hit for stealth to activate, or hits 3s of stealth per tick, or requires no hit for just 3s of stealth.

It’s very vague.

So how many tears will fall from 100% crit mauls executed from stealth after this goes live? I predict rivers :o

Manekk.6981:

So how many tears will fall from 100% crit mauls executed from stealth after this goes live? I predict rivers :o

The thieves will drown in their own tears!! This is going to be amazing!! It’ll be like playing Teemo in League of Legends >=D