Guild Wars 2

ColinJohanson.2394:

Ascended items and infusions both will cost a less than normal amount of laurels, and a badge cost as well. (Ascended accessories will remain laurels + ecto, but with new WvW rank reward chests you’re going to be getting a lot more Ecto!)

Ah, nice.
Thanks for confirmation.

ColinJohanson.2394:

lordkrall.7241:

Is the combination cost for both items and infusions or just infusions?

Ascended items and infusions both will cost a less than normal amount of laurels, and a badge cost as well. (Ascended accessories will remain laurels + ecto, but with new WvW rank reward chests you’re going to be getting a lot more Ecto!)

Looks like enough to get me to start doing wvw again but not sure how long it will keep me there.

Maybe this should go in the “Only a WvW player” thread but…

What’s Ascended and Infusion do?

200 > 250 badge each item ?
I guess =)

ColinJohanson.2394:

lordkrall.7241:

Is the combination cost for both items and infusions or just infusions?

Ascended items and infusions both will cost a less than normal amount of laurels, and a badge cost as well. (Ascended accessories will remain laurels + ecto, but with new WvW rank reward chests you’re going to be getting a lot more Ecto!)

Looks like we have some nice information here

My only gripe is that basing stuff on WvW ranks means slapping aagain the face of whoever uses alts instead of a single char all day everyday.

hint/accountsharedwvwranks/hint

Aside that, let’s see how things turns out.

ANET rocks! Do you guys sleep?

I hope those infusions have agony resist or else I’m not happy that I have to farm now TWO ascended sets, one for PvE and one for WvW.

And what about those kitten laurels again? I don’t have enough for two alts already and I got more than that. With each patch playing GW2 is more and more of a pain :/

FallenTear.3710:

200 > 250 badge each item ?
I guess =)

The badge cost will depend on the discounted laurel cost I’d think. We’re just going to have to wait and see what the cost combination is and how they price the time value of badges.

Liquid.9672:

Troop.1369:

Introducing Infusions and Ascended Gear in WvW
Now you can purchase Ascended rings and amulets and upgrade your WvW abilities with six new Infusions that give your character special WvW bonuses! Just speak to the new Laurel and Badge Merchants on each map

Bolded the part that really caught my attention. Infusions have been a gripe of mine for awhile. This sounds VERY interesting. Lets hope there’s some meat to it.

+10% WXP? Oh, please, oh, please!!
+ 2% damage against gates. Da f…???

DevonCarver.5370:

Cottage Pie.6215:

you’ll never be able to buy ascended items for badges.

1) badges are kitten easy to get on high tiers, this is so you can buy lots of siege.
2) waaaay too many people are stuffed senseless with badges and are too selfish too buy lots of siege and want rewards for themselves, aka ascended items.

It’s not ever going to happen, and you can quote me on it

Just fulfilling my obligations here. Costs and more info will be out with the patch notes. Enjoy!

He technically might still be right, you guys said laurel and badges… thats not getting it for just badges. Its dumb to make it cost both, which I assume you guys will do based on your track record. I now hope you prove me wrong and quote me on it but I doubt it.

AndrewSX.3794:

My only gripe is that basing stuff on WvW ranks means slapping aagain the face of whoever uses alts instead of a single char all day everyday.

hint/accountsharedwvwranks/hint

Aside that, let’s see how things turns out.

The laurel cost for the Asc does the same thing… I hate it. Make it captures or something else. At least the monthly resets shortly after release…

OHH MY LORD JESUS MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ASNWERED TIME TOO PUT DOWN THE XBOX!!!!!!!!

Amazing, can’t wait!

DevonCarver.5370:

Ascii.9726:

Question: Will these reward chests for ranks be given for people who already have Ranks? For example will a Rank 60 player receive 60 chests?

There will be a system for rewarding players who have already gained ranks. The way it will work is you will have a backlog of 60 chests, if you were at rank 61, and for each rank you achieve after that you will get 2 chests, instead of 1, until you’ve received all 60 of your backlog. These bonus chests should be available for every player who has gained rank prior to the build.

This backlog idea seems like a great way to balance the perceived unfairness of no retroactive rewards versus the glut and devaluation that would occur if retroactive rewards were granted all at once.

I hope this idea sees use in other parts of the game too.

-ken

Dude… I am loving this update.

+ cool points for ANet.

Can’t wait for more variety in our wvw matches…. Ferguson’s Crossing and Borlis Pass… SOR is coming for you! Should be a super fun and exciting match that will definitely not result in any kind of lopsided scores… at all…. a friggin nail biter right to the very bitter end…..

Better get a bed pan folks, in case you crap yourself from all the exciting matches we are in store for that will not be decided within the first day.

Pryda.8257:

Become even deadlier in The Mists with new World vs. World abilities like Burning Oil Mastery or new ranks in Defense Against Guards!

CANT WAIT !

Yep, we will hold on 3 seconds instead of 2. Awesome update ^^

Only benefit: Ascended Gear

Fix skill lag and change arrow carts. 2.7k per ac attack is ridiculous.
Fix Red BL aswell place is a kittening nightmare.
Stop adding kitten and fix what you have.

It sounds like this might squelch our Tier 8 small group project:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Small-man-Havoc-Crew-Tier-Consolidation

DevonCarver.5370:

Ascii.9726:

Question: Will these reward chests for ranks be given for people who already have Ranks? For example will a Rank 60 player receive 60 chests?

There will be a system for rewarding players who have already gained ranks. The way it will work is you will have a backlog of 60 chests, if you were at rank 61, and for each rank you achieve after that you will get 2 chests, instead of 1, until you’ve received all 60 of your backlog. These bonus chests should be available for every player who has gained rank prior to the build.

So being rank 158 I wont get all my chests until I get rank 315??

Oh wow!?!

WvW is my favourite activity in GW2, so this is awesome news…

Errr…I think I like it all but the devils in the detail…roll on the 28th May…

Chests, chests, I get to open loads of chest…yippee, yippee…

DoomMagick.5963:

DevonCarver.5370:

Ascii.9726:

Question: Will these reward chests for ranks be given for people who already have Ranks? For example will a Rank 60 player receive 60 chests?

There will be a system for rewarding players who have already gained ranks. The way it will work is you will have a backlog of 60 chests, if you were at rank 61, and for each rank you achieve after that you will get 2 chests, instead of 1, until you’ve received all 60 of your backlog. These bonus chests should be available for every player who has gained rank prior to the build.

So being rank 158 I wont get all my chests until I get rank 315??

Be glad you get anything.

Clearly ANet knew my birthday was on the 29th and released this the day before as they just couldn’t contain their excitement.

DoomMagick.5963:

So being rank 158 I wont get all my chests until I get rank 315??

Gives you something to look forward to, Doom.

I’m surprised WXP boosters haven’t been added to Black Lion shop yet.

Aurust.8961:

Can’t wait for more variety in our wvw matches…. Ferguson’s Crossing and Borlis Pass… SOR is coming for you! Should be a super fun and exciting match that will definitely not result in any kind of lopsided scores… at all…. a friggin nail biter right to the very bitter end…..

Better get a bed pan folks, in case you crap yourself from all the exciting matches we are in store for that will not be decided within the first day.

“The goal is to get you more variety in match ups, while avoiding match ups against worlds way outside of your current tier so it’s not too crazy.”

No SoR/FC/FC match ups or the like.

DevonCarver.5370:

I almost got this lack ascended gear in WvW fixed![/quote]

Seriously, ascended back items are left out? You have a week, please hurry and add them so I dont have to do fractals, or add something specific to WvW like weapons to force PVE players into it like we’re forced to do their stuff.

ColinJohanson.2394:

lordkrall.7241:

Is the combination cost for both items and infusions or just infusions?

Ascended items and infusions both will cost a less than normal amount of laurels, and a badge cost as well. (Ascended accessories will remain laurels + ecto, but with new WvW rank reward chests you’re going to be getting a lot more Ecto!)

wow, we are getting ectos too.omg that is awesome.ty Colin I’m glad to see that there are new improvements for wvw.

Hay thanks Anet

Looking forward to getting my final ascended pieces (plus maybe even gearing up my alts.. gasp) and infusing them with WvW specific stuff.
Plus 5 supply y/y?

Just missing one thing, new map rotations. I know you have a few tucked up your sleeve.

Another thing putting points in siege damage reduction should be more of an incentive as you have given ac’s the power of thors thunder.

JaNordy.6149:

DevonCarver.5370:

Cottage Pie.6215:

you’ll never be able to buy ascended items for badges.

1) badges are kitten easy to get on high tiers, this is so you can buy lots of siege.
2) waaaay too many people are stuffed senseless with badges and are too selfish too buy lots of siege and want rewards for themselves, aka ascended items.

It’s not ever going to happen, and you can quote me on it

Just fulfilling my obligations here. Costs and more info will be out with the patch notes. Enjoy!

He technically might still be right, you guys said laurel and badges… thats not getting it for just badges. Its dumb to make it cost both, which I assume you guys will do based on your track record. I now hope you prove me wrong and quote me on it but I doubt it.

Assuming what has been said already, the original poster was right. The laurels are the time-gate piece that they are leaving in place. I guess the “discount” price is really the kicker here. Is it 20 laurels? 15 laurels?

The original poster was simply saying those of you that hoarded 1000s of badges will never buy ascended items with those badges exclusively, which is in fact correct, because you will not have enough laurels, or a way to earn laurels any faster than dailies/monthlies. You may get twice as many ascended items for your laurels using badges, but you still have the limit/gate there.

A little disapointed they are not doing anything to DIScourage the karma-train and zerg-balling that is going on. Now that ranks give rares/other goodies, people are really going to push that habit to the max to get those rewards. Still waiting for the better rewards if you can manage to take a tower with 5 people, instead of 50.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Aurust.8961:

Can’t wait for more variety in our wvw matches…. Ferguson’s Crossing and Borlis Pass… SOR is coming for you! Should be a super fun and exciting match that will definitely not result in any kind of lopsided scores… at all…. a friggin nail biter right to the very bitter end…..

Better get a bed pan folks, in case you crap yourself from all the exciting matches we are in store for that will not be decided within the first day.

“The goal is to get you more variety in match ups, while avoiding match ups against worlds way outside of your current tier so it’s not too crazy.”

No SoR/FC/FC match ups or the like.

It will still be ridiculously lopsided. The difference between even a single tier are MASSIVE. Remember the QQ from tier 8 when SF was stomping it? It will be like that for every matchup, every week….

Love how everyone here is so concerned with gear, that wont really make any impact on wvw… but aren’t discussing a game breaking change that they are implementing.

I wanna know how the new match up thing is gonna work!

Will we be able to get all ascended items with this update in WvW? That means back items, rings, accessories, and amulets? Furthermore, will we be getting any new pieces of ascended gear with this? Weapons? Armor?

Lastly, can you guys please be awesome and put in exotic waterbreathers at the WvW vendors? I hate using an ugly green level 80 item for underwater combat, as if underwater combat wasn’t painful enough.

They only said ring and amulets. But fear not, for 40 laurels and 50 ectos, both of which you can get in WvW you’ll be able to get accessories too! Now matter how much of a scam it is obviously.

Aurust.8961:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Aurust.8961:

Can’t wait for more variety in our wvw matches…. Ferguson’s Crossing and Borlis Pass… SOR is coming for you! Should be a super fun and exciting match that will definitely not result in any kind of lopsided scores… at all…. a friggin nail biter right to the very bitter end…..

Better get a bed pan folks, in case you crap yourself from all the exciting matches we are in store for that will not be decided within the first day.

“The goal is to get you more variety in match ups, while avoiding match ups against worlds way outside of your current tier so it’s not too crazy.”

No SoR/FC/FC match ups or the like.

It will still be ridiculously lopsided. The difference between even a single tier are MASSIVE. Remember the QQ from tier 8 when SF was stomping it? It will be like that for every matchup, every week….

Love how everyone here is so concerned with gear, that wont really make any impact on wvw… but aren’t discussing a game breaking change that they are implementing.

I agree with you. I’m on ET and for us, any change in match up for us will be a disaster. We just simply don’t have the man-power to compete with any server other than HoD/FC.

ANet is honestly in a “ kitten if you do, kitten if you don’t” situation. People ask for balanced match-ups, they work the glicko to give us them, now we ask for different, balanced match-ups, I hope they figured something out, but I think the ability for different, balanced match-ups is not possible with a tier system.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Aurust.8961:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Aurust.8961:

Can’t wait for more variety in our wvw matches…. Ferguson’s Crossing and Borlis Pass… SOR is coming for you! Should be a super fun and exciting match that will definitely not result in any kind of lopsided scores… at all…. a friggin nail biter right to the very bitter end…..

Better get a bed pan folks, in case you crap yourself from all the exciting matches we are in store for that will not be decided within the first day.

“The goal is to get you more variety in match ups, while avoiding match ups against worlds way outside of your current tier so it’s not too crazy.”

No SoR/FC/FC match ups or the like.

It will still be ridiculously lopsided. The difference between even a single tier are MASSIVE. Remember the QQ from tier 8 when SF was stomping it? It will be like that for every matchup, every week….

Love how everyone here is so concerned with gear, that wont really make any impact on wvw… but aren’t discussing a game breaking change that they are implementing.

I agree with you. I’m on ET and for us, any change in match up for us will be a disaster. We just simply don’t have the man-power to compete with any server other than HoD/FC.

ANet is honestly in a kitten if you do, kitten if you don’t" situation. People ask for balanced match-ups, they work the glicko to give us them, now we ask for different, balanced match-ups, I hope they figured something out, but I think the ability for different, balanced match-ups is not possible with a tier system.

Sounds like they listened to the players complaining about not mixing up the matchups enough and not making it delegation/relegation weekly. Im sure if thats the sysytem they put in place it will cater for 1 or 2 servers, but the rest are going to hurt because of it.

LilMcGinley.3890:

ANet is honestly in a kitten if you do, kitten if you don’t" situation. People ask for balanced match-ups, they work the glicko to give us them, now we ask for different, balanced match-ups, I hope they figured something out, but I think the ability for different, balanced match-ups is not possible with a tier system.

Im hoping they start matching the NA and EU servers up against each other to give “new opponents.”

Would still like to see ranks in Reviving.
1% increased speed in reviving per rank up to 5 ranks.

I’m looking forward to the patch

Making rating more accurate or responsive? It’s totally needed and welcome change.

But, if 3 servers have a even force, play on same level and fight for victory until last day everytime and everytime there’s a different winner, then you should not ruin that matchup because “Ppl is bored of fighting same 2 servers”.

It’s balanced? Leave as it is, kitten

Again, i hope new matchmaking isn’t going to favor a “fighting always new servers – just for the sake of changing opponents” over the “let’s find out a sweet spot where a tier is balanced and then preserve it, even if 3 servers will have to fight each other for 6 months – but 6 months of good playing”.

So we finally have a use for these?

http://oi44.tinypic.com/awvvc3.jpg

Quenta.2978:

So we finally have a use for these?

http://oi44.tinypic.com/awvvc3.jpg

Yep, so long as you can earn a dozen or so laurels off the new WvW daily I’m sure you could afford a new ring in two weeks. Still gonna be mostly useless.

Quenta.2978:

So we finally have a use for these?

http://oi44.tinypic.com/awvvc3.jpg

Holy hell… How many in total? Give me some :’(

DoomMagick.5963:

DevonCarver.5370:

Ascii.9726:

Question: Will these reward chests for ranks be given for people who already have Ranks? For example will a Rank 60 player receive 60 chests?

There will be a system for rewarding players who have already gained ranks. The way it will work is you will have a backlog of 60 chests, if you were at rank 61, and for each rank you achieve after that you will get 2 chests, instead of 1, until you’ve received all 60 of your backlog. These bonus chests should be available for every player who has gained rank prior to the build.

So being rank 158 I wont get all my chests until I get rank 315??

So what if it takes you this long to get all your BACKLOGGED chests. its not like your missing out on anything, or your time was wasted. Now if it took longer to get each level then i could see your concern, but it doesn’t each level after 5 is 5000 Wxp. Think of it this way someone that just starts today playing wvw will need to get 315 levels to get 315 chests you only need to do 157. I would be rather happy if i was you.

olleN.2356:

Quenta.2978:

So we finally have a use for these?

http://oi44.tinypic.com/awvvc3.jpg

Holy hell… How many in total? Give me some :’(

So if that is all of your badges, that’s 250 each stackx30 room in each storage tab x3 storage tabs so you have 22500 badges right there. May i ask what rank you are?

Aurust.8961:

It will still be ridiculously lopsided. The difference between even a single tier are MASSIVE. Remember the QQ from tier 8 when SF was stomping it? It will be like that for every matchup, every week….

Love how everyone here is so concerned with gear, that wont really make any impact on wvw… but aren’t discussing a game breaking change that they are implementing.

Its more than likely a glicko volatility adjustment (as in making it more volatile) with an introduction of a winners/losers medium marker to act as a soft reset on stagnating glicko. The problem with the current system is that glicko 2 is too easily stagnated by “winning by a lot” and punishes servers that win a lot by forcing them to win by even more the following week lest they be trapped in their tier forever. Even just adding much more volatility to the system would not fix this sort of an issue if the gap between tiers and, subsequently, the gap between teams in the tier itself, is so large that there’s simply not way to break the mold without divine intervention.

By adding a winners/losers medium, servers that are “stuck” winning by landslides for several weeks will circumvent their stagnating glicko and be pushed up a tier while servers who are trapped in oppressive landslide losses (EU T1) will be able to leave the tier without having to throw matches and hope that the tier below them wins by massive amounts. This acts as a soft-reset on the glicko as the moment the team rises or falls, their glicko will have to adjust accordingly to the new tier and, naturally, after the adjustment will be extremely volatile whereupon a team that cannot compete in the next tier up will quickly fall back into place. This will result in some yo-yoing but it will allow for servers to have breathing room whether it be up or down without having to “play the rating game” for weeks on end as they are forced to do now.

Yes, you’ll get lopsided matches… but you already have lopsided matches. And teams that are winning by landslides could use a change of pace where they actually face opposition even if its a very steep change in competition between tiers.

repair man.7925:

stop being dumb and fix your game you warrior-buffing idiots

I don’t think you have any idea what you’re talking about. They are meatshields but the dynamic of the class (ie. it doesn’t have one because of its linearity) is one of the easiest to counter and is the reason they are non-existant in tPvP.