Guild Wars 2

Just how Bad is your FPS ? and what are your ingame settings ? This info will help us better determine how to best help you.

lolz that’s a good one, looking forward to that animation.

Treeline.3865:

Alteris.1528:

An to the OP, try reinstalling GW2 you may have some currupted files that need to be repaired that are causing you to crash.

Or just use the “-repair” argument :/

Or what He said LOLz, I actually didn’t know about that command :O but then again I haven’t had any issues with my GW2 either :/.

If you have a job and could swing it this would be the best bang for you buck in reguards to what you need, yes its quite a bit over your budget but well worth it, I looked at the specs of the 630m which has a core config of 96:16:4 and the 640m core config is 384:32:16, so you can easily see which that the 640m is quite a bit better performace wize.

Personally I like a destop for gaming or video editing, but in college a laptop it a better choice just because its mobile.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215615

marnick.4305:

I wouldn’t recommend any of them simply because they’re A/ HP and those suck and B/ have AMD cpus which aren’t supported that well by games. You’ll be selling yourself short.

Three things I could recommend:
A/ buy a desktop pc for that money, you will be able to have one decent enough to run GW2 on medium-high
B/ Do one of those things called “jobs” and earn your pc yourself. You’ll be far more prudent throwing away money at an HP AMD when it’s your own money instead of your mothers. Also you can be proud you achieved your own pc, back when I 14, working my kitten of for my first pc was a milestone in my life. Eleven years later I still love that little machine, I just hope I can say the same about my gf in 10 years.
C/ Convince “someone” to go up to 800. You need at least some core components and for a laptop you ain’t getting that under 500.

I lol’ed at this, I’m using a Phenom II X4 955BE at 3.9GHz paired with an HD4890 and 8GBs of DDR3 1600MHz, I average at 1680×1050 45-50+ fps Note I use SweetFX aswell with everything but reflections, FXAA, showdows and depth blur maxed out. donno where you think AMD CPUs are any less supported by games in general then Intel CPUs ? That’s complete utter rubish, both perform well in there own right GW2 is just poorly optimized atm for both Intel and AMD, were not comparing an ARM cpu vs a desktop CPU, if we were Then you can say which one has the better support :P lolz.

Holy Shadow.1672:

I love the tips here, all are targetting the user instead of the contributor lol…

If you have something constructive to say then by all means say it :P.

An to the OP, try reinstalling GW2 you may have some currupted files that need to be repaired that are causing you to crash.

Try playing GW2 on a system with a FX-8350 OCed to 4.6GHz paired with a HD7970 and 8GBs of DDR3 1866MHz Cas 8 memory at 1920×1080 with everything but reflections and FXAA maxed out it runs very nicely, note that this is my older brothers PC not mine lol but I can say from watching him play that performance wise its quite nice, an trying to tell ppl that there AMD cpu should be replaced with an Intel CPU is rubish, BOTH brands are having issues and its not there fault that Anet doesn’t know how to optimize there own engine before they release it. Its quite painfully obvious that GW2 needs a pretty major overhaul already in reguards to optimizations etc.

If anything the OP should look at there options and choose for them selfs with what fits them finacially best, personally I like AMD cause they don’t cost me an arm and a leg to get and perform great for what I use them for, Intels are nice but if you want there higher end parts its going to cost you alot, no one can deny that fact, both brands nowadays OC like crazy and very easily, the new FX-83xx’s OC to 4.6GHz with less voltage then my current 955BE does v1.3875 atm which is just insane when you think about it.

Are you being forced to use a Micro ATX board cause of your case ? If so I’d get a bigger one just so that you can get a better motherboard, when you build a system for gaming its usually best to stay away from motherboards that are primarily used for a HTPC setup, which are usually micro atx boards.

I’d suggest this if its possible for you to get.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-512-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

Those are all basically great for watching DVDs etc and playing games that are not GPU intensive, even though GW2 is CPU bound the GPUs on All the laptops you have selected are Very weak your be lucky to get a steady 30 fps with the Lowest settings.

What is the Absolute MAX your willing to payout for a laptop as that’ll determine what I’ll suggest you look into :P.

zerk.9701:

This seems weird how I downloaded that same patch but have no problems. Why would people update from windows 7 to 8 they even fired the guy over it at MS.

Wow that’s a bit extreme, to be fired for voicing an opinion ? you wouldn’t happen to have a Link to that ? I ask cause my brother just got me Win 8 Pro Still on win 7 atm and (I keep getting) mixed opinions on Win 7 vs Win 8 :/. The more info the better lolz.

lolz they Really need to recode there Filter lol it thinks (I keep getting) is something bad c_C lolz.

IllogicalBeetle.9175:

Invited a friend on the invite-a-friend deal. He has an i7-920, 6gb Ram and a 7750 1GB. Running 3-5fps. Not a good selling feature. This system is more than capable running <20% CPU and <35% Mem Load. ./boggle

I agree its not looking good performance wise even on super beefy systems that you’d think would easily manage 60+ fps (excluding resolututions past 1080p) minus ofc Huge crowds.

It all boils down to the fact that they need to optimize the game more, with how unoptimized it is atm its literally forcing ppl who want to play to either play with bad fps and choppy performance or lower resolutions or buy new hardware that may or may not help.

Squall Leonhart.2075:

Alteris.1528:

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

Bulldozer is bad no matter what level of threading you use.

An that’s why they came out with piledriver and why I didn’t suggest getting another BD lolz and why I stuck with my 955BE lols, I got an ASRock 990FX Extreme 4 motherboard but when I started seeing all the reviews on BD I decided to pass on it. Now how ever I may pick up the FX-8350 and see how that go’s, 4.6GHz on air at about the same or lower voltage then what I am at currently sounds pretty tempting lols.

zerk.9701:

Alteris.1528:

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

The real bottleneck is the HD7700 (Either 7770 or 7750) with fewer SPs then my HD4890 and far less memory bandwidth I’d expect low FPS, a good CPU can only do so much when the GPU is lacking the needed horsepower by itself to push out higher FPS.

If you can swing it I’d upgrade the HD7700 to a HD7870 or HD7950, these are Both sub $300 USD and are good performers, HD7970s great but I doubt you want to fork out $400 on that :P.

Just to give you an idea here’s my current system I use to play GW2 with.

I net around 45+ FPS constantly at 1680×1050 with most settings at max, minus shadows (Medium), depth blur (Off) and LOD (Low)

Phenom II X4 955BE @ 3.9GHz
8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz
GigaByte HD4890OC 1GB (915MHz Core, 1GHz Mem)
Note that it has 800 SP’s vs your 512 to 640 SP’s and my 4890 has 272 (Double-precision FP) yours at max would have around 88 or GFLOPS (Double-precision).

An if you really want to upgrade the processor look at the new Vishera’s (AM3+) there better then the BDs and perform better too, the FX-8350 starts at 4GHz stock so if your not a fan of OCing that would be a good pick and at $220 USD there fairly priced.

This is just bad advise if he changes his video settings from low to high with no change in FPS it’s the CPU.

lolz you apparently didn’t read the entire post or you wouldn’t have said that, I gave him all the advice he needed and good suggestions to choose from that would impact his performance the most with out needing to switch out his motherboard and cost him more, both time and money.

Swedemon.4670:

Install an affordable air cooler and OC it. Overclock.net will have an easy to follow guide.

Several coolers can work with both AMD and Intel processors. So you can likely swap into your future cpu/mobo.

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Another good CPU cooler is the Zalman CNPS10X Performa, been using it just over a year an have yet to see it go past 47c max load @ 3.9GHz.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118059

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

The real bottleneck is the HD7700 (Either 7770 or 7750) with fewer SPs then my HD4890 and far less memory bandwidth I’d expect low FPS, a good CPU can only do so much when the GPU is lacking the needed horsepower by itself to push out higher FPS.

If you can swing it I’d upgrade the HD7700 to a HD7870 or HD7950, these are Both sub $300 USD and are good performers, HD7970s great but I doubt you want to fork out $400 on that :P.

Just to give you an idea here’s my current system I use to play GW2 with.

I net around 45+ FPS constantly at 1680×1050 with most settings at max, minus shadows (Medium), depth blur (Off) and LOD (Low)

Phenom II X4 955BE @ 3.9GHz
8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz
GigaByte HD4890OC 1GB (915MHz Core, 1GHz Mem)
Note that it has 800 SP’s vs your 512 to 640 SP’s and my 4890 has 272 (Double-precision FP) yours at max would have around 88 or GFLOPS (Double-precision).

An if you really want to upgrade the processor look at the new Vishera’s (AM3+) there better then the BDs and perform better too, the FX-8350 starts at 4GHz stock so if your not a fan of OCing that would be a good pick and at $220 USD there fairly priced.

HawkMeister.4758:

Game optimization isn´t only poor, it´s broken.

The game just throttles itself down seemingly on a whim. It´s got nothing to do with bottlenecks or any other problem on the client´s hardware.
Looks suspiciously like it somehow activates the framelimiter at arbitrary settings and just stays that way.
No matter what setting is on that useless options menu.

If you run with more than 2 cores you´re taking a gamble it seems.

I’m going to have to agree with this assessment, as recently I have noticed while playing I’ll have my usual 45-50+ constant FPS in PvE zones but then suddenly I’ll get a huge performance hit for no apparent reason. How ever this doesn’t happen often but none the less this is an issue that’s completely software related that they need to address.

Moenkie.9851:

Alteris.1528

This game is Extremely CPU intensive, so OCing your current CPU would actually benefit you the most, but before we Delve into that we need to know if your using the CPUs stock cooler that came with it ? As OCing would be pointless if all your doing is frying the CPU :/. So we need to know so we can point out some good aftermarket coolers to suggest :P.

I looked up your GPU or what Could be your GPU, there are 3 types HD 6770, HD 6750 and the HD 6790 I hope thats the 1 lolz they all have 800 SPs minus the 6750 which has 720 SPs but the 6790 is using a 256 bit memory bus, which would help.

Also find and download an app called CPU-Z and GPU-Z there tell you and us Alot about your setup etc, like what GPU you have and what voltage your CPU is at stock etc and a lot more lols.

Note that I’m playing GW2 with a Phenom II X4 955BE at 3.9GHz paired with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz and a HD4890 and I mostly see 45-50+ FPS in PvE etc, in places like LA or other heavily crowed areas I usually see 35+ to 40ish FPS and big boss fights around 30ish with lots of ppl but I never do WvW cause I’d imagine its a slide show lols.

Now to give you an idea I’m currently playing at 1680×1050 with almost maxed settings, try these settings and see how that helps.

Alright, I downloaded CPU-Z and GPU-Z as per your suggestion. Shall we talk overclocking?

Ok we really need to know if your CPU is using the stock heatsink that came with it, as it’ll limit how far your want to OC, so having an aftermarket heatsink is always prefered.

Also take a screenshot of your CPU-Z and GPU-Z an post them here there help out, mainly to tell me what your CPU’s stock voltage is, should be around v1.325 for Phenom II X4’s/Phenoms.

An GPU-Z will help identify your GPU faster, either way any of the 3 6700s can pull 40+ FPS on med to high settings, but GW2 is CPU bound so it can cause issues in that regaurd :/.

Also something else jsut came to mind, is your PC custom or pre-built ?

Moenkie.9851:

Having problems running the game at an adequate speed. I’m getting around 23fps max on the lowest settings.

AMD Phenom 9750 (2.4Ghz Quad Core)
8 GB DDR2
AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series (I can’t remember if it’s 6700 or 6750)

If I need an upgrade it’s pretty much out of the question. I assumed I would get at least 30+ on the lowest settings but that’s not the case at all.

Any help?

This game is Extremely CPU intensive, so OCing your current CPU would actually benefit you the most, but before we Delve into that we need to know if your using the CPUs stock cooler that came with it ? As OCing would be pointless if all your doing is frying the CPU :/. So we need to know so we can point out some good aftermarket coolers to suggest :P.

I looked up your GPU or what Could be your GPU, there are 3 types HD 6770, HD 6750 and the HD 6790 I hope thats the 1 lolz they all have 800 SPs minus the 6750 which has 720 SPs but the 6790 is using a 256 bit memory bus, which would help.

Also find and download an app called CPU-Z and GPU-Z there tell you and us Alot about your setup etc, like what GPU you have and what voltage your CPU is at stock etc and a lot more lols.

Note that I’m playing GW2 with a Phenom II X4 955BE at 3.9GHz paired with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz and a HD4890 and I mostly see 45-50+ FPS in PvE etc, in places like LA or other heavily crowed areas I usually see 35+ to 40ish FPS and big boss fights around 30ish with lots of ppl but I never do WvW cause I’d imagine its a slide show lols.

Now to give you an idea I’m currently playing at 1680×1050 with almost maxed settings, try these settings and see how that helps.

Are you using Depth Blur ? it may have an effect kind of like motion blur when turning the camra, try disabling that, setting rendering sample to native, LOD to low and turn reflections completely off, and set the FPS limiter to 60 and shadows to either medium or high, there also effect FPS but the game looks bad in my opinion if there not at least set to medium. hope some of this helps, btw I average 40+ in LA and 35+ if I’m turning etc, this is on a Phenom II X4 955BE @ 3.9GHz paired with a HD4890 and 8GB of G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz but I’m also playing at 1680×1050 :/ close but not quite 1080p :P but what I mentioned still should help.

I honestly cant see how the new OS did that unless GW2 has some hidden windows 8 features no one knows about it’s most likely not the cause, did you install newer drivers then your previous set ? and have you tweaked your monitors settings lately ?

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

Using just my Bios to OC as its the safest way, I never trust an OC to software as that can cause serious issues or even worse Damage your PC lolz. Also btw I’m running idle at 81F atm as I type this lols, yes F lolz thats about 27-28c lolz so ya I love my cooler lols, something to point out is the higher the CFM is on a fan the better the cooling Obviously lolz, but it also creates more noise :/, before I got the Areocool Sharks I was using some Thermaltakes http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106153 there really nice fans but loud lol, if your ganna use these I’d look in to a 2 pin to 3 pin converter cable so you can hook them up to a fan controller.

Again thanks for the info. How did you attach the second fan to the other side of the cooler. Looked like it only came with a clip for the one side.

It actually come’s with 4 clips cause of the option to have 2 fans

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

I’m using a Zalman CNPS10X Performa with 2 120mm Areocool Shark blue LED fans max I have seen my CPU is about 46c at load in Sony Vegas (video editing) its about $55 USD at newegg.com and the fan it comes with is actually a Very nice fan, that I actually have ziptied to my Gigabyte HD4890OC which came stock with another Zalman cooler lols and it actually stays as cool as my CPU unless at Full load which then it might hit 55-57c but never anything higher lols.

This is actually my channel showing the CPU cooler in my case just to show you what I am using and how it is in the case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4da74yaRYY

Some settings you might want to look into are.

CPU/NB Voltage: v1.2 is what I use atm
CPU Vcore: v1.3875 is what I’m set to at 3.9GHz, anything under v1.45 is good, but note that passed v1.4 and you start to get lots of heat due to increased voltage. Also some motherboards will actually add some voltage ontop of your setting to compensate Vdroop (Drop in Vcore voltage) Also note that a Vcore pass v1.48 with a X4 Phenom and your want to consider getting water cooling but I don’t advise going passed v1.45 if possible, unless you want to fork ou the dow on a Corsair H100 which are actually nice when setup right :P.
Ram timings I use are 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1600MHz @ v1.5, I’m using 2 different sets of G.Skill otherwise I’d be 7-8-7-24-2T :/ my sister figured she’d suprise me with something PC related 1 christmas LOL.
NorthBridge Freq, or NB is 2.4GHz, usually this is a good medium to be at and since my ram is different sets I don’t mess with it lols.
HT Link is at 2GHz usually will want to leave this alone at 2GHz.

Nice, thanks for the info. What are you using to OC your processor? I actually downloaded AMD Overdrive and it seems like a very nice utility to OC the Phenom series, seems fairly granular.

Using just my Bios to OC as its the safest way, I never trust an OC to software as that can cause serious issues or even worse Damage your PC lolz. Also btw I’m running idle at 81F atm as I type this lols, yes F lolz thats about 27-28c lolz so ya I love my cooler lols, something to point out is the higher the CFM is on a fan the better the cooling Obviously lolz, but it also creates more noise :/, before I got the Areocool Sharks I was using some Thermaltakes http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106153 there really nice fans but loud lol, if your ganna use these I’d look in to a 2 pin to 3 pin converter cable so you can hook them up to a fan controller.

I’m with the idea of also selling your current card and get 1 high end card, HD7970s have come way down in price lately may want to look into 1 of those or even the HD7950. As mentioned before sticking to a single high end card would also prevent you from getting those odd crossfire/sli issues that crop up every so often and your use less power and create less heat as well with a single card.

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

I’m using a Zalman CNPS10X Performa with 2 120mm Areocool Shark blue LED fans max I have seen my CPU is about 46c at load in Sony Vegas (video editing) its about $55 USD at newegg.com and the fan it comes with is actually a Very nice fan, that I actually have ziptied to my Gigabyte HD4890OC which came stock with another Zalman cooler lols and it actually stays as cool as my CPU unless at Full load which then it might hit 55-57c but never anything higher lols.

This is actually my channel showing the CPU cooler in my case just to show you what I am using and how it is in the case.

Some settings you might want to look into are.

CPU/NB Voltage: v1.2 is what I use atm
CPU Vcore: v1.3875 is what I’m set to at 3.9GHz, anything under v1.45 is good, but note that passed v1.4 and you start to get lots of heat due to increased voltage. Also some motherboards will actually add some voltage ontop of your setting to compensate Vdroop (Drop in Vcore voltage) Also note that a Vcore pass v1.48 with a X4 Phenom and your want to consider getting water cooling but I don’t advise going passed v1.45 if possible, unless you want to fork out the dow on a Corsair H100 which are actually nice when setup right :P.
Ram timings I use are 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1600MHz @ v1.5, I’m using 2 different sets of G.Skill otherwise I’d be 7-8-7-24-2T :/ my sister figured she’d suprise me with something PC related 1 christmas LOL.
NorthBridge Freq, or NB is 2.4GHz, usually this is a good medium to be at and since my ram is different sets I don’t mess with it lols.
HT Link is at 2GHz usually will want to leave this alone at 2GHz.

I’d look into those new FX-83xx chips they seem to be pretty solid this round and great OCers with low voltages even, getting a FX8350 to 4.6GHz on air is pretty easy, if your board can support AM3+ then I’d look into one of the FX8300s there about $220 atm on newegg, But if you can really swing a Big chunk of cash I’d go with an I7 OC that to 4.5GHz and call it good :P lolz. but the new FX8300s are cheaper :P just a thought lols.

Actually that brings up another idea, why not make Physic’s in general an option/setting that we the player can then adjust. I think your on to something with the physic’s lol that never came to mind when I was getting those FPS hits at random, but it could also be a combination of physic’s and a culling issue which would lead to a pretty massive hit performance wise.

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

The Only CPUs what would be a severe bottleneck are those older then the Phenom II X4s and equivalent Intel CPUs. If you have a CPU at or after those that are on a fairly decent OC or even stock paired with a good GPU and ram then you shouldn’t be having too many issues maxing this game out, How ever since this game has some Very severely needed optimizations, just about anyone even those with completely over the top PC’s are having issues, which is ridiculous considering the processing power some of these PCs have both CPU and GPU wize.

Since the GW2 engine is based off the GW1 engine you’d think the performance would be similar even after the changes but its not, which you would think they would have noticed that at Anet and did something about it before release :/.

What needs to be done besides forcing us to spend cash to beef up our already beefy PCs, is to optimize the living daylights out of there current rendering engine, with all the improvements and changes they added to there GW engine you’d think they would have at least tested its performance maxed out vs low settings.

An ppl with Really high end PCs with OCed CPUs and highend GPUs weather its single or SLI’d/Xfire are getting some of the worst FPS ? That’s just wrong when you look at the system I’m using and I get better on average FPS for the system I have.

System being a X4 955BE @ 3.9GHz, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz, HD4890, and I play at 1680×1050 with mostly high settings minus shadows which are set to medium, and I average 45+ PvE and 35+ in LA or any other crowded city, lowest I have seen is 15-20 FPS in big boss battles. I don’t do WvW cause that would prob make my ancient HD4890 explode lolz but I could guess it would be bad :/, but yes to say the least they need to work on the rendering engine A LOT :/.

System Spec’s are a Must for you to get any real help.

wyldie.6308:

OK, I fixed my FPS issue but probably wont help many other people, recently I inserted a HDMI cable into the main computer slot rather than the DVI cable into the Graphics card. Seems the HDMI cable was more than halfing my FPS.
Like I said probably won’t help anyone but thought I would post it all the same just incase.

I wonder if using a DVI to VGA would have that same effect, I’m ganna try both yours and the 1 I just mentioned an see what happens lols

I can varify that it is due to the event, if I go anywhere that the event has an effect (fullscreen effects/fogs etc etc) I get an FPS hit, especually in LA, but reguardless GW2 is Poorly optimised in general, I did how ever notice a pretty significant FPS boost when I deleted that .dat file now it sits at just under 2MBs :/ ?. and in area’s I was getting 40ish FPS I’m back to 50+ now.

Try rolling back your drivers to as far as 12.6 and see if any of those help, also Disable FXAA, all it does is Blur the image and eats up some FPS. Depth Blur eats away at FPS so I’d also disable that as well.

I’m playing at 1680×1050 with a 955BE @ 3.9GHz, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz and an HD4890 (915MHz Core. 1GHz GDDR5) with almost everything set to high, minus shadows and shaders which are both medium (some reason my game actually looks better with medium shaders ? lol) and I average 40+ FPS throughout the game, even in LA I get 35+.

zerk.9701:

i5 2500k @4.4
Gigabyte Z68
16GB 2133 ram
6970 @950/1425 driver 11.12
Win7 64bit
Samsung 830 SSD

Full Screen 1920/1080p
All Mid
AA FXAA
Reflections None
Render Sampling Native
Post Processing Low
Vsync Yes

PVE 60
City 55/60
PVP 50/60
WVW 35/45

This makes me wonder if Drivers have That much of an impact on performace, as I have seen systems with similar setups as yours, minus the drivers yet they get worse FPS :O. Ganna try out those same drivers an see what I get lols.

Disable Depth Blur I noticed an FPS gain when I did that.

If all else fails, I’d reinstall GW2, for all we know its being caused by corrupted files etc never now, but I’d still like to see what rolling back the drivers do for you.

Have you rolled back the drivers like I suggested ? Also a good benchmark to run to see artifacts is 3DMark 06, if there is an issue with the card it’ll show it. I use to run my HD4890 at 925MHz core and 1GHz memory, but found out I was getting artifact till I toned the core down to 915MHz been stable ever since. So like I said before, try rolling back the drivers and run a graphic intensive benchmark and see what happens.

Try rolling back your drivers to 12.6 yes thats a ways back I know lolz I’ve been using them since GW2 came out and have had No issues with FPS so you might want to look into that. When you 1st go to install the drivers click on the uninstall option 1st, restart the pc then run the driver install again after install restart again, this should clean out the old drivers etc and leave you with a clean install of the new drivers.

@Antiriad
Actually there nearly the same, most CPUs today use anywhere from 95Watts to 130Watts, usually the 130Watt CPU’s are the K or BE versions Unlocked CPUs which allow for better OCing etc, then you have the 95Watt CPU’s with are usually for normal desktops etc and are usually not OCed as there limited on that end. Also need to keep in mind that the smaller the .nm the less power is needed so comparing a .22nm chip to a .32nm chip isn’t the same as comparing chips with the same .nm cause ofc the smaller .nm chip is going to use less power to geto the same clock as the chip with a higher .nm. I hope this made sense to those that read it lols.

The on screen issue your seeing looks ingame and might be a conflict with a setting or group of settings so testing each 1 is kind of a must till its narrowed down :/, and I know your HD7850s a good card, I’m using an HD4890 and average 40-60FPS at 1680×1050 with nearly maxed settings so it’s most likely either a game setting, your drivers or a faulty card.

Also you mentioned the PC is Brand New just how New is it ?

Turn FXAA off, if that doesn’t help then put shaders to medium, FXAA btw makes the scene blurry and personally is annoying to look at lol I don’t even know why they use it most ppl hate it :/.

Could you please post some screenshots of these issues, I can better assist you with something to look at to get an idea of what may be the issue.

If the character in question is new and nothing special has been done to it just delete that character and recreated it with the correctly spelled name, that’s really all you can do.

lol, Again that’s not a populated area PvE or not, not to mention your right next to the boundry of a zone, Hence the portal ? so ofc your FPS is ganna skyrocket. Try LA TP area and lets see how you fair there :P.

BlooodX.8025:

Foonus.8149:

Running 2 GTX580’s SLI and not seeing any problems (200 FPS) with the setting in the picture below. Using latest Nvidia WHQL drivers.

Lol…200 fps screenshot from anywhere.
Go into a bigger WvW fight with your 580 SLI and look again your “200” fps.

Exactly! did you notice that the shot was cut up aswell ? give us a shot that’s someplace like LA near the TP or anywhere PvE thats moderately populated and show us a Full screen shot with that FPS or close to it, cause I’m not buying that your getting 200+ FPS just off the shot your giving us. >.> That’s my 2 cents worth.

SolarNova.1052:

Quik question on that screenie Alteris.

Do you have Vsync enabled ? ..if you do ..do you have your monitor settings set to 50hz by any chance. I only ask becouse that image just hapens to be dead on 50 fps in a rather calm area of the game. The only other reason for <60 fps with <99% GPU usuage would be CPU bottlenecking which is odd in an area like that ..obviosly being an AMD cpu ‘could’ the reason.
Just checking anyway

Yes it is Vsync’d, how ever its the games “default” which it places it at when you change a resolution, if I set it to my normal 60Hz that’s what I’d be getting, and before I took that shot I did a 360 and everywhere I stopped I got that 50 FPS you see in the screenshot. Only time my CPU bottlenecks is in Big events like killing dragons etc when I see my FPS hit around 20ish or so. I play windowed 1680×1050 btw. Still this game needs some optimizations to say the least, I mean I can play Skyrim at 1080p maxed out minus shadows and AA AAs never good on FPS >.>. lolz

Mrowqa.3861:

The problem with GW2 is that they didn’t make constant Playerbase Beta like WoW have.

I agree a longer beta would have ment fewer bugs and more optimization, which would have or could have avoided issues ppl are getting now.

michaeljhuman.3940:

I would guess, what you would find, is that GW 2, no matter how many threads it might have, has only one or two performance critical threads.

For example in some applications I have worked on, there’s a lot of threads that wake up and run only periodically.

Based on that guess, a follow up guess would be that CPU clock speed, would be the limiter if GPU is fast enough. A possible re-design of the game could maybe split that into more threads, but it’s anybody’s guess if that would help performance (and that’s three guesses, making my whole post highly speculative.)

I’m not sure about it only having a few performance critical threads in use, I think its more of an optimization issue in that the older GW engine just wasn’t designed for all the new goodies they stuffed into it when they did redesign it :/, and then forgot to optimize it much afterwards. All in all it really comes down to is poor optimization and utilization of a PCs resources both my CPU and GPU are not at full load when playing unless in a crowded area, which even then you shouldn’t see Huge FPS hits, since then the GPU and CPU loads increase.

So you’d think that it would then keep up FPS wise in that respect, but this is not the case. Again this comes back to it being poorly optimized and not using a systems resources correctly. My system like many others are more then capable of playing most games at high settings yet in GW2, which is using an older engine with a few upgrades/changes we have some pretty severe FPS issues.

loseridoit.2756:

@Alteris

Did you just compare world of tanks to guild wars 2? That is a horrible comparison.

No! World of tank cannot be compared to guildwars2
Do you want a better comparison? world of tanks and crysis 2. these games in general are not cpu extensive. Most games AI stinks and they do not have to track much objects on the screen and special actions. They tend to be gpu bottlenecked.

There are only a few first player game guild wars 2 can be compared with. One of them is Skyrim. Skyrim ability to remember your player’s choices and decision with a random event generation is amazing. Thus, it became more cpu and ram extensive compared to games before it. Since guild wars 2 have to track other characters in addition to your own, it will be cpu bottlenecked. Game logic is not easily run in parallel. How do you optimize a block or dodge? Yea……it is not easy. Anet devs are not lazy, it is just that their job is difficult

I’m not talking about there CPU intensity, I’m talking about the fact that a game engine Can be altered after release, you should read more carefully before plunging into a conversation and making assumptions.

Deadman UK.5473:

I got an i7 @4.2GHz with 8gig RAM and a MSI 6950 2GB OC and I get low 20’s in Lions Arch and Black Citadel. I run @1920x1200 with max settings (native)

I’m starting to wonder if its resolution based, cause I’m playing at 1680×1050 and average 35+ in LA on high settings minus shadows, which are medium.

zerk.9701:

Well thats really nice to hear that after 2 years they made changes. WOT has nothing to do with this game.

You obviously missed the point, that was that it Is possible to redue to the rendering engine. Even in GW2 that is possible and as I said, it just takes time. What they need to do atm or are, is gather information, which they are. They need this information before hand otherwise redoing anything is a waste of time as all that would happen is more issues would come out of it. So ya what I said about WoT did have relevance to GW2.