Guild Wars 2

CrassBippy.4619:

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1 AM AZ time. this is just to take a tower. The zerg was bad too. it was sad fighting them

The zerg was so bad that they completely wiped you off EBG when you guys didn’t even have outmanned buff before we took your keep. Ok.

Bones.5762:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

I’ve managed to rack up 6k kills from last week and today alone. I would like to thank the maguumans

LOL, 6k only? i’m at 11k. don’t try to act all high and mighty with 6k kills, i’ve seen players with 17k kills already n im sure more already. If you’re only at 6k, it just means you like to zerg small man groups or even solo players too much.

Learn to read bro. I said i’ve racked up 6k kills in JUST last week. I’m at 17k kills total if you must know.

Not sure why everyone is still crying zerg when CD stomped on both EB and MG’s faces during NA primetime when the numbers were equal or more in their favour, since CD is mostly Oceanics.

I’ve managed to rack up 6k kills from last week and today alone. I would like to thank the maguumans

Archer.1658:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

Archer.1658:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

Archer.1658:

I Lol @ CD being anything other than a zerg server:

Higher population than both servers? Check.
Never upgrade anything, and spawn camp at any given chance? Check.
PvDoor because uber population? Check.
Numbers winning because skill can’t? Check.

Thanks for playing

I lol @ sore losers. Yes CD has a higher population that’s for sure. But from what i’m seeing from the other 2 servers, you would still get stomped if the numbers were equal. Just like how you guys just got stomped in NA prime time.

Obvious troll is obvious, you wipe every time when its equal numbers, don’t kid yourself. Lol

Yes really. I’m not even joking. You guys need to improve your organization and strategy if you even want to think of fighting on par with cd

Strategy and organization? two things CD know nothing of. Your only strategy is zerg everything because higher numbers. Now i now why you guys are in tier 4, can’t compete with the tier 3 zergs. Lol

Lol. I don’t even know what you guys are doing in tier 4. I hope next week you go back to t5 or 6 where you belong. Because this is starting to get really boring.

Archer.1658:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

Archer.1658:

I Lol @ CD being anything other than a zerg server:

Higher population than both servers? Check.
Never upgrade anything, and spawn camp at any given chance? Check.
PvDoor because uber population? Check.
Numbers winning because skill can’t? Check.

Thanks for playing

I lol @ sore losers. Yes CD has a higher population that’s for sure. But from what i’m seeing from the other 2 servers, you would still get stomped if the numbers were equal. Just like how you guys just got stomped in NA prime time.

[Edit] you wipe every time when its equal numbers, don’t kid yourself. Lol

Yes really. I’m not even joking. You guys need to improve your organization and strategy if you even want to think of fighting on par with cd

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

ryan.3915:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Hekatombaion.4320:

I wonder if halfway into the week we’re going to get more “you wouldn’t be winning if not for your 50 man Asian zerg” even though we’ve pushed everyone else out of CD border before 9pm server time.

Or maybe the other servers just aren’t trying since they realized the hard core turtle is a big part of why we’re in the same match up for this many weeks in a row?

You are a zerg server. You aren’t rolling Ebay and Maguuma because of tactics. Neither of these servers can handle another server that has the members you guys do. Not sure why CD is so ashamed of this.

Please share the wonderful skill and strategy that makes the other two servers stand out. Always willing to learn.

We don’t get ourselves facerolled as much by inferior numbers? Where as CD is constantly getting wiped by smaller forces. And once you move up a tier you will end up back in this one because mass pvp =/= 50 man zergs lololwin when people have #s to counter it.

I am not honestly hating here. But you guys aren’t as tough as Ehmry. Ehmry players put up a helluva lot more fight when numbers arent skewed.

Nah, from what i’ve observed, mag players are the least organized and the easiest to wipe. That’s why you are always last.

katniss.6735:

Waffler.1257:

katniss.6735:

I don’t know why we’re fighting cd again when they beat us by 110k points because they have way more players than us. This match-making system is terrible.

If you can’t beat us, join us.

I’m sorry, but Maguuma is probably the best organized, best comradery server there is. We just lack a force during Euro/Asian prime-time. During US prime time we beat you just fine. I love my server. I am still allowed to express a distaste for the #s game.

Opening day in CD BL we had the out-manned buff for the first 15 mins. We held East keep longer than anything else was held on the map. We became severely out-manned and lost it. We had people shooting through the walls killing siege. Yeah, gg. We held it anyway. It wasn’t until later on in the night that we finally lost it. It had no wp in it, with both CD and EB attacking, but our guys still got in, rezzed keeper, wiped bridge siege, rebuilt our siege. No, I don’t want to leave the server.

You beat us during US primetime? Lol sorry but we were ahead of you the whole time since WvW reset. And just for your info, we had outmanned buffs in 2 BLs at restart. CD is mainly an Asian server and you guys still can’t beat us at any time of the day. You guys are far far farrrr from being the best organized server lol

Yak’s bend doing serious work today

Ricky.4706:

sorry, my first reaction is to wonder if the guild that filmed him planted him there. Would be nice if Anet can check a record of recent transfers and recruits.

Sorry but that’s pretty dumb. Why would some1 transfer over just to do this and not be able to xfer back for 7 days? Not every body has so much time on their hands.

CD seems to be pretty bad at holding keeps compared to you guys.

So much respect for Yak’s bend and DH. You guys even continue to upgrade all your stuff everyday when you take it back even though you know you might not have much coverage later on to hold it. You guys are great servers who don’t give up. Based on what i’ve seen of CD for the past few weeks, i think if we were in your position we would have given up by now ;p

How is DH managing to muster up such an amazing push

Kami.7369:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

Props to YB and DH for not giving up a single bit. We have MANY more Asians than you and that’s why we are able to ‘nightcap’ so effectively. But it seems that both of you guys come back every single day during peak hours to claim back what was yours.

I doubt CD is much more ‘skilled’ than you guys are. I’m pretty sure our servers are all pretty even actually. We just have much better coverage than you guys.

That’s really what it comes down to in the long run, isn’t it? Such is the way of 24 hour battles

Yes, yes it is. That’s why i don’t really appreciate it when Yak’s players come in here saying, ‘Oh, we’re better than you when numbers are equal’. It’s just not true because you can’t measure how many players are on at any point of the day.

The only thing that sets apart servers which we can say for sure, is coverage and the score. There is no point being the most skilled server but the one with the worst coverage.

Imagine if Kaineng was the most skilled server. No one would even take them seriously if they came out and said ‘we deserve to be in tier 2 because we always win during prime time’.

TLDR; There is no point complaining that you superior, and the only reason you are losing is because you are being ‘nightcapped’. There isn’t much way to measure that. Instead, try to fill up those places where you lack coverage.

Props to YB and DH for not giving up a single bit. We have MANY more Asians than you and that’s why we are able to ‘nightcap’ so effectively. But it seems that both of you guys come back every single day during peak hours to claim back what was yours.

I doubt CD is much more ‘skilled’ than you guys are. I’m pretty sure our servers are all pretty even actually. We just have much better coverage than you guys.

Spetrix.3859:

Whichever guild from CD that set up the East Keep defense on Yak’s borderland with the orb yesterday

Superior arrow carts galore, triple catas on both inner and outer gates, double defensive trebs assaulting courtyard and multiple superior ballistas holding down the bridge.

We want that guild. Well played fellas

-A YB Commander

That would be my guild, EDMW. Too bad we are based in Singapore and it was 12pm and only like 5 of us were on when you did that, 8 golem rush was it?

Actium.8765:

Serious question for CD right now.

Are these kitten yours? the [PLAY] guild that is.

Not really sure what that picture means

LaMisT.1863:

CD has a greater base of asian players. So your day is our night and your night is our day. If you think we are hitting unguarded doors, its the same the other way round. We are outmanned in most of our maps when you start to take over the maps. It just happened we managed to clear more of your maps in your night time than the amount you clear in our night time.

This, dont assume that the majority of the population for all servers are NA. CD is mostly filled with Singaporeans and malaysians.

fivekiller.1432:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

Nut.4713:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

Nut.4713:

Yak’s has never had much of a night crew, it’s a misconception that we do. When other servers complain about us night capping, it’s just US players staying up late on a Friday night. We’ve never had a strong presence in the morning hours.

Anyway, CD can have the map at night, at least we know we win in a fair fight.

Yak’s win in a ‘fair’ fight? You must be joking. There is no fair fight here. CD does not even belong in the same tier as Yak’s.

Not sure I understand you. We beat CD last night when numbers were even. We’re rapidly taking back the map now.

Not sure i understand you either. All i rmb was CD leading 90% of the time on Friday night NA prime time.

No, We were mostly neck and neck but Yaks was in the lead the rest of the night after midnight or so central. by a pretty good margin for a while. we had 100% map on Darkhaven borderland and at least 1/2 to 1/3 on every other. i have multiple screenshots of the night some of which show the map but i’m not going to bother posting them. It doesn’t really matter who led for 3 or 4 hours out of the matchup to me.

Yaks wins friday night in every matchup.. thats nothing new for us. We even had 95-100% total map control friday night the week SOR beat us by a huge margin before the Jade Quarry guilds and them transferred over to their server.

it is because we have several extremely good and coordinated guilds with awesome players who know how to shut down a map. but those awesome players don’t stay logged in 24/7.

No, Yaks only started taking the lead AFTER NA prime
time was over, and it was by the smallest of margins. The score gap didn’t even go above 1k. During NA prime time, we had the lead the whole time.

This was because, like i said, CD has a more spread out population, thus we don’t have as much NA as you guys. But once our Asians start to play, it’s a different story.

Sorry, but there is no way CD would lose to Yaks with equal number of players. Just look at the PPT now

Nut.4713:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

Nut.4713:

Yak’s has never had much of a night crew, it’s a misconception that we do. When other servers complain about us night capping, it’s just US players staying up late on a Friday night. We’ve never had a strong presence in the morning hours.

Anyway, CD can have the map at night, at least we know we win in a fair fight.

Yak’s win in a ‘fair’ fight? You must be joking. There is no fair fight here. CD does not even belong in the same tier as Yak’s.

Not sure I understand you. We beat CD last night when numbers were even. We’re rapidly taking back the map now.

Not sure i understand you either. All i rmb was CD leading 90% of the time on Friday night NA prime time.

PoiSonPeZ.4286:

Looks like CD is heavy on night cappers. They own almost all of EB and they are starting to run away with the score.

What we all thought was going to be a close race is turning into a blow-out.

CD has always been a Tier 2/3 server, i don’t see how you can be surprised at this outcome. The only reason we got knocked down to tier 4 is because of the sudden risings of SoS, BG and SoR, while HoD and ET do not belong where they are currently at.

CD has a more spreadout population, such that even during NA prime time’s, the queues weren’t that long. But CD has asians to back that up.

Nut.4713:

Yak’s has never had much of a night crew, it’s a misconception that we do. When other servers complain about us night capping, it’s just US players staying up late on a Friday night. We’ve never had a strong presence in the morning hours.

Anyway, CD can have the map at night, at least we know we win in a fair fight.

Yak’s win in a ‘fair’ fight? You must be joking. There is no fair fight here. CD does not even belong in the same tier as Yak’s.

K:D ratio is stupid in WvW as u only have to tag the guy once to get the kill. 13k kills, 1k deaths.

FatHitman.5074:

Kyiv.9621:

FatHitman.5074:

Wow such hate for BG

They have an influx of individuals that will give them a bad name. See above. Shame, seemed like the Blackgate community was decent and worked hard and now the bandwagon transfer train has ruined them. HoD v2.0

As a day 1 member of BG, I can tell you that we are actually really good at WvW. I really don’t see our alliance losing people do to bandwagons. Really we will just wait it out and grind for better gear and just wait for a better match-up. Now the people who are joining the server just because we are good will eventually find another server to go to.

So in all our WvW alliance are very skilled and organized. That is the main reason we are winning all the time. So don’t hate on BG just because people decide to play follow the leader. That is just life.

The main reason you STARTED winning all the time is because almost every single WvW guild from HoD and ET xfered to BG.

Columba.9730:

I saw this tonight with 4 of us on screen and one enemy thief. He exploited this bug and it was more than just rendering issues. It’s ok, the hacking players will get the snot nerfed out of the class as we pile complaint after complaint against this class.

I just keep reporting them. anet will get tired of us complaining and nerf them into the ground. congratulations, cheaters!

Hacking? Lol you’re funny. Maybe stop being bad first before going back to WvW. Anet isn’t going to nerf thief to cater to the bads so you can keep dreaming.

Erhnam.5732:

To all the people that NEED a gear carrot:
There are lots of games with a gear focus carrot as end game. Yet instead of playing one of those games, yo cry because gw doesnt have it.

Then people complains that all the games are the same :rolleyes:

The thing is, i love everything about GW2 except the boring PvE end game. I love the WvW, the PvP, the mechanics and just the world in general. I would hate to leave the game because to me it could have been so much more. Right now i’m bored as hell while waiting for the WvW to reset since theres nth left for me to do in pve.

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Here is a video from WoodenPotatoes who talks about end game. It’s recorded in Feb, but I am surprised how much stuff he hits right on the nail of the head; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNw-rx42r7E&feature=related

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The question is now – Are explorable dungeons too easy? For some people the story versions are impossible! But are they impossible because people are ignorant or because the game doesn’t tell them how to spec or the importance of having rings, accessories with certain stats, or to swap their weapons?
- The game actually has launched with over 30 dungeon paths – shorter paths that doesn’t challenge most peoples patience and takes 3-4 hours to complete.
But are they fun?
Are they only so fun you would do it for the reward. Would you do dungeons for no rewards in WoW or any other MMOs? Are dungeons in MMORPGs today fun enough in themselves?
So maybe the question is not if GW2 has end game, because it has loads of it, its more a question of how repeatable and how fun it is!? And what ArenaNet can do to change it?

The dungeons are not fun in the slightest, nor do you get any rewards for it after you get your exotic set. They are short and don’t require you to do much other than attack and dodge red circles. I still think a raiding system similar to WoW’s is pretty much essential for a successful endgame.

Sad Swordfish.9743:

EXAR.7963:

I hear what you guys are saying and agree to an extent but the double-edged sword is that their really isn’t any incentive to play after lvl 80. Especially if you don’t PVP.

Under the above reasoning one has to ask… what is the point of getting to level 80 if there is nothing to do once you get there?

Loot, rewards, incentives? Like it or not these are the things that keep the vast majority of people playing.

It depends on if you view things as journey or the destination. If I had fun doing something, I don’t feel like I need to ask what was the point?

Whats the point of life if all you do is die? I think the answer is that you, simply enjoy things while doing them and try to live in the now, instead of always thinking in terms of predicting the future, or whatever. Be present now. If you don’t feel like anything to do at lvl 80, just play some other games until they make new stuff.:)

Ambrosiaa.6054:

It makes YOU not want to participate. But you know, there’s a reason why WoW has been, and will continue to be the biggest and most successful MMO.

GW2 will not even have a fraction of the players, nor will it have made a single percent of the amount $$ WoW has. All because there is absolutely nothing to do after 300-400hrs when you have full exotics and full map completion.

Most people I know personally who still engage in these types of games are very pessimistic and bitter about those games end games.

I believe a game with an ending, a logical and more laid out ending point is better than the forever-never style of WoW. The complains I hear is that the raids and mechanics are all the same, they just tweak the damage and hp. I believe the reason for that WoW won’t give you an actual ending is because they don’t want you to stop playing enough for you to cancels your subscription.

There is almost an element of real life capitalism in some of these MMOs, of people not wanting to play or participate if they do not get anything out of it. I’ve never been a completionist type person, but I’ve found more challenge in pursuing the 100% world completion, doing the jumping puzzles and completing the WvW maps that I’ve had in any other MMO ever.

ArenaNet doesn’t mind us exhausting the content and then doing dungeons, Orr, WvW until we don’t like it anymore.

Yes, the i have to admit that the journey was very, very enjoyable. But the thing is like i said, 400hours is more than enough to do have done every single thing GW2 has to offer, and it won’t really be fun again to do it a second time.

What does this remind you of? Single player games of course. If i wanted a finishing point, a single player game like Skyrim of half life would have satisfied me as much.

The reason most people play MMO games is for the constant progression. People like to feel that their efforts are paying off, making their character stronger. Believe it or not, a little bit of grinding can actually make a game fun. GW2 has none of that. It’s just a glorified single player game IMO.

It makes YOU not want to participate. But you know, there’s a reason why WoW has been, and will continue to be the biggest and most successful MMO.

GW2 will not even have a fraction of the players, nor will it have made a single percent of the amount $$ WoW has. All because there is absolutely nothing to do after 300-400hrs when you have full exotics and full map completion.

Definitely worth $60. But most definitely NOT worth a subscription fee as you will run out of things to do after 300-400hrs.

marnick.4305:

Vocal minority. Don’t feed the trolls.

Most people would just quit rather than continue posting here.

Pants.8315:

Ambrosiaa.6054:

This is a game for casuals. What do you expect of a game with no subscription? I suggest you try WoW, it has a subscription and still has close to 10million players. If GW2 had a subscription, i doubt it would have even 500k players with it’s abomination of an endgame.

Re-imagined my kitten

Why is it an abomination of an endgame.

If it’s not what you like that is all well and good. “I don’t like the way the endgame plays, because of x y and z” would have been constructive and intelligent. Instead your just slandering it.

I personally like the way the end-game plays.

I played WoW for 5 years, I raided throughout my time in WoW, and I stopped playing when I realised the most fun I ever had in WoW was when I first got it at launch and spent my time doing things that weren’t based around progression.

I had gone from… traveling around, sky diving off of tall things (pre-flying mounts), playing with engineering gadgets, riding across deserts as 3 gnomes on mechanostriders seeing the horde lands we hadn’t discovered to…

Standing in Dalaran, instantly tele-porting to dungeons, and occasionally going afk whilst my flight path took me to a daily spot.

I left MMO’s for a bit, with a couple of excursions into LoTRO and Aion, then eventually got into SWO:TOR. I enjoyed most of my story missions, and leveled 2 characters to max in the space of 3 months. I quit again, when I realised I was just sat on my capital ship, heading to dungeons and getting my ship to daily locations. (Also got all the holocrons including the one on the capital ship (which was great fun to work out with my guild).

Roll around to GW2. I can go out and do anything I like at max level. Which includes pointless exploration into random places(and those random places exist, found the secret jumping puzzle in AC explorable?) And I still feel like I’m gaining things for doing whatever I like. GW2 end-game isn’t lacking, it delivers everything I want from it.

The fact that you could spend 5 years on WoW already says something. The progression it offers is great and is what keeps people playing.

I cannot think of a single kitten thing to do other than WvW right now. I have full exotics, 100% map completion, and i have done all dungeons. And i have only played for 300hours so far. What the hell is 300hours compared to 5 years?

This is a game for casuals. What do you expect of a game with no subscription? I suggest you try WoW, it has a subscription and still has close to 10million players. If GW2 had a subscription, i doubt it would have even 500k players with it’s abomination of an endgame.

Re-imagined my kitten

Corew.8932:

If you liked the game at lvl 10 you will like it at lvl 80, because it doesn’t change, you’ll still do the same things.

Not sure if trolling. At lvl 10 i had a whole world to explore, main quests to do, crafting, and a sense of progression.

Absolutely nothing other than WvW.

The current endgame for PVE sucks… I would gladly pay a subscription if they added actual progression after hitting lvl80.

Thanks for this TC, you guys are much better sports than DB.

Ocyris.9014:

Based on the last scores I gathered this is my estimation.

Server                                     SD             V             Rating        Delta

Henge of Denravi	       195.708	0.955	2147.659	    4.635
Jade Quarry	               196.554	0.958	2071.981	    27.973
Eredon Terrace	               205.04	0.959	2022.164	    34.565
Stormbluff Isle	               193.633	0.954	2016.29	            -31.143
Isle of janthir	               196.562	0.957	1788.442	    10.247
Blackgate	                       191.909	0.955	1732.014	    38.576
Dragonbrand	               194.831	0.957	1693.669	    -33.503
Crystal Desert	               199.208	0.959	1693.047	    -43.416
Tarnished Coast	       190.733	0.956	1669.592	    99.258
Fort Aspenwood	       193.916	0.956	1591.352	    -6.856
Sea of Sorrows	               191.201	0.954	1587.849	    -7.72
Maguuma	                       191.485	0.954	1568.789	    121.048
Yak's Bend	                       192.601	0.958	1469.586	    -59.823
Gate of Madness	       190.703	0.954	1441.876	    -91.458
Northern Shiverpeaks	206.67	0.975	1437.413	    102.704
Sanctum of Rall	       189.949	0.952	1422.72	             51.511
Ehmry Bay	                        193.233	0.956	1369.413	    -63.238
Darkhaven	                        190.425	0.954	1355.439	    -11.74
Sorrow's Furnace	        190.043	0.953	1348.83	            -39.879
Anvil Rock	                        201.344	0.969	1129.683	    -40.131
Ferguson's Crossing	        222.288	0.963	1086.254	     64.231
Borlis Pass	                        208.085	0.965	1064.3	            -61.483
Devona's Rest	                210.826	0.962	659.14	            -64.546
Kaineng	                        220.515	0.965	625.297	              9.407

How did you learn of all the scores?

He did all that and you still beat him so…. Nerf necros you mean?

Go vitality. Toughness is good if have lots of healing, but if you’re a thief, generally you just want to be able to survive the burst before stealthing away.

WvW is only thing keeping me playing GW2 right now, due to the horrible lack of end-game content. If A-net removes the scoreboard, i’ll be out for good. PvP has to be about a balance of both fun AND COMPETITION.

Reducing the amount of competition reduces the amount of fun as well.

Psy.6153:

Is it me or can ET simply not hold their own? How high would they be without their alliances with other servers? It makes you wonder if this is actually how they got to the top and how false their ranking actually is

Lol? Do you seriously think that IoJ is that good that we have to double team you? Sorry to burst your bubble, but that’s what every single server thinks. I’m from CD and i’ve been observing IoJ and ET double-teaming us all day long.

@OP

You do know that WvW is mainly about strategy and not skill right? The skill cap for this game is low as hell, everyone should be able to control their character properly. WvW is about which server has better leadership, planning, etc..

If it was purely based on skill, yes it would be close. But some server have hardcore guilds with amazing coordination and that is why they can pull such a huge lead for their server. There is nothing wrong in that. If you wish for your server to keep up, simply get better.

Bloodtau.4672:

WVW is pve with players. Nothing more.

Man you must be really bad at this game.

^ Helps alot. I think i’ve decided on going D/D. Any good sigil suggestions for that?

But seriously, MMOs are about the endgame, and GW2 has zero endgame.

Please dont bring any diablo 3 crap into this

These suggestions are great! Though from what i see, other than a 100% shortbow, it really depends on my playstyle so i guess i’ll have to really test them all.

Just got this bug too. Please fix your sheet… I’ve being encountering bug after bug in my instances. Ever since lvl60 instances i’ve had to redo almost all of them.

grubnick.7849:

Shortbow is essential in WvW. The 5 ability is so good for chasing or getting away, and is a good AoE ranged weapon.

D/D is great for skirmishes. Aside from the high single target damage from daggers, deathblossom gives you some AoE when there are more than one enemy or if a thief goes stealthy and you need to finish him.

Yesterday I was experimenting with D/P. Black powder + heartseeker gives you a stealth combo that is more reliable than cloak and dagger, but the drawback is you have to stay in the circle before using heartseeker. This combo allows a thief to control a fight with plenty of stealth and blindness.

Yeah, D/P is pretty good i feel.

But again, may i know what sigils you guys are using on your weps? I’m having a hard time deciding as i do not know much about the hidden mechanics behind each sigil