Guild Wars 2

ArthurDent.9538:

ArthurDent.9538:

My predictions are that for pvp heal botting will be nerfed heavily, but still be left far and away the best thing you can do with ele in that format. For pve they will nerf fresh air builds by toning down air overload so that we can all go back to only camping fire with staff all of the time in pve because there shouldn’t be 2 competitive options.

I have hated just about every relevant blance change they have made for ele since hot was released. As a result I have stopped maining it, and it is probably my least played class in pvp since the start of season 2. This is why I am quite cynical about any future changes.

I would like to necro this thread since it contains conclusive proof that I am a psychic since everything I predicted came true.

I thought about coming back to gw2, but after seeing this and other posts. I don’t believe there is even a point as my main character was a Ele =\

onevstheworld.2419:

That’s probably because most players run the elite specs, so we don’t have much experience with the core specs in the current meta. Elite specs are definitely an advantage over core, but by how much is a bit harder to quantify. Only real way for you to know is to reinstall and give it a try.

Btw, even though you missed the 50% sale, you should be able to find 3rd party retailers selling HoT at a discount from time to time.

Thank you for the reply sir!

Guess no one here that can comment :<

So one of my friends wants me to come back and my gear is probably extremely outdated, but i am wondering if my two max 80s Ele/Ranger have any viable builds that doesn’t require the new expansion. I would like to get back into WvW and Spvp but i have no money to buy a 50$ expansion just to be relevant/ useful. Could use some advice on this if possible.

I like the whole elemental dancing, do I feel like that it could be improved some or elevate some of the base damage so that we actually are rewarded for how much we do to keep up with the others and the high skill cap? Oh definitely, but I highly doubt that we will see any buffs or fixes for a while since anet will be focusing more on PvE with the content updates. We might be lucky and some some more class balancing.

I’ll help her out if possible. I’ll send ya a IM tonight ^_~

Zatria.5783:

Aether McLoud.1975:

LOL. That’s pretty much the definition of a bunker build. Moving on.

Whether it’s a bunker build or not, it doesn’t change the OPs story. Since when is running a bunker build on an Ele a reportable offense?

The thing to point out here, is that a thief failed to 2 button down an ele and got upset.

The question that is still relevant here is, why does a class with more armor – allowed to do that much more damage than an ele’s DPS build? You want diversity in Ele builds? Fix the damage to where a glasscannon’s should be.

@OP — keep up the good work! And thanks for sharing the build and ideas.

That’s why most people complain about thiefs, cause they have more armor and damage and plenty of escapes. I run a D/D Tankish build though.

Thrashbarg.9820:

Aw, it’s “unfun” for you not to be able to instagib someone just cause they are wearing cloth? That’s too bad.

I do consider it winning a fight if I can tie up 2 or more of the other team’s players indefinitely. I can also apply enough pressure through DoTs and dps to make anyone run away, or blow their heals and condition removals so when more of my team shows up the enemy is nice and softened up for the bursters.

Wanna know what annoys me? Thieves who abuse the rendering issues to remain untargetable permanently. You might not be able to kill a bunker elementalist, but at least you can see one to try.

Bunker elementalist is our only viable build because apparently dragons tooth>phoenix>fire grab was too hard to dodge so we have weak burst now, and thieves highest spike damage hit costs no initiative and is basically spammable. Sure, let me just build so backstab crits on me for 15k but my biggest damage combo adds up to much less and would be dodgable by an octogenarian playing on a 28k dialup connection from Siberia. Sounds fun….. I mean, no thanks, I’ll stick to bunker till they fix our damage.

This exactly, we rather go for something viable than just be a free dish of food for all the theifs and mesmers running around.

@daphoenix.4283 True but i enjoyed watching you fight, I am also a D/D ele but i go a little bit different in my build. Though i need to farm some money or dungeons cause i want more toughness in my build. So i want clerics or some from HoTw

Crunchy Gremlin.5798:

please note that the ele is a true 80 and the ones she killed are not.

Still a skilled ele is fun to watch and frustrating to realize… im not that good. lol.
I mean i get in there with the ele and at best i can see where i screwed up…

I guess thats a good thing. So i can learn from mistakes.
err. i have no idea what video im talking about now…

not all of them, some of them were 80. Now if the ones 80 are in full gear? don’t know, but either way it was fun watching that gameplay. It did take some skill to pull that off.

No cause he said auto attack, in which i think he is lying. It just isn’t possible, like other people said. They would have to be level 1 naked and at max range with oru gear complete glass cannon with some stacks of might and maybe 25 stacks of bloodlust to even hope to do that kind of damage on auto attacks

The best way to utilize pets is to use slows or CC, cause when they can actually stick to a target. Even without beastmastery they surprisingly do really good damage.

You guys are absurdly wrong, this is just all hearsay and speculation. I have not seen any difference in my damage and i highly doubt people are really tracking their damage as they are still leveling and hitting more than just 1 type of mob. And no you cannot hit a Warrior for 14k damage that is actually geared and not some low level pug in WvW. I would know as I am also in full DPS Exotic Gear and have 95+ crit damage. So stop spreading rumors and ignore this until Anet says something.

The tool tip doesn’t tell you that when stealthed the Jaguar gains Crit damage and a higher % to crit.

I agree with Zsymons post but also want to note that we also need some of the traits fixed as well.

This is my ranger XD sorry for the terrible quality.

It is with most pets, if you try to use any lunge ability from the felines or any canine howl f2. The enemy players would be out of range of it long before it goes off. On top that some of the abilities of pets are broken like the blue moa’s protection buff that supposed to be like 12 secs is only 2 secs of protection. The White moa’s ability is completely broken as it does not work and just does 1 damage of chill and has wrong tool tips. Pets are useless in WvW since they die instantly to Aoe and have no way of dodging it. I think my most problem with our class is that we have so many traits and abilities that center around Pets yet they are so useless in PvP and WvW it really cuts our dps compared to our classes.

I agree with the rest, I swap my pets so often for f2 abilities and to use cooldowns between the type of pets and find that Master’s Bond completely useless in most situations especially in dungeons and WvW and PvP. A lot of the traits we have need to be reworked.

Larina.2036:

I have to agree, played PvP today and was shocked by the downed skills of other classes – teleports, AOE knockback, invisibility etc. It took half a minute and 3 people to finish off a downed mesmer… Then you think you finally got him, but no, he went invisible and is behind you! Meanwhile my ranger lies on the ground, just healing and getting healed by the pet and waiting for help. I dont even feel like fighting back when downed since it’s no use anyway. No other class is as easy to finish off as the ranger in my opinion.

We are the easiest class to kill off, we have nothing to stop people from finishing us off except for our number 2 and it doesn’t stop them if you do it to late. Our pet resing us kills us faster as if you use it. It starts doing tics of 1000 damage to yourself if you noticed and the pet sometimes bugs too and wont even res you but stands their next to you. Our class feels so freaking mediocre sometimes I swear. I might just re roll a ele or mesmer ~_~

I find even specking into full beastmastery , that pets still die to easily if it isn’t 1v1 or 1v2. I believe that our class is somewhat lacking in a lot of areas as most of the stuff we can use it just useless in most cases compared to the other classes. Also I think some of the traits don’t work properly either, I had posted a topic about it the other day here : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Ranger-Traits-and-Rune-of-the-Centaur-not-properly-working/first#post120793

I agree that are grandmaster traits are weak =\

The Trait Agility Training and Nature’s Bounty don’t seem to properly give the appointed increased % unless their is a hard cap for movement speed for pets? And Nature’s Bounty isn’t giving the extra regeneration to myself, or does it only work on others?

As for the Rune of the Centaur it’s increased swiftness duration is working for my pet as it is getting the increased duration from my armor but i am not getting it myself. either my boon duration stat from nature magic isn’t working right or the rune.

As all the above mentioned, the traits and stats seem to be working for my pet except for Agility Training which seems to be a case of speed cap. While the rest are not properly showing the increased bonus for myself.