Guild Wars 2

Hey all,

After playing through a myriad of mmos, I was very surprised that there wasn’t anything similar to the small skirmishing arenas that most other games had.
Spvp and stronghold is alright, but I’m not exactly a huge fan of capturing and holding points. WvW duels and small scale fights are okay, but that’s not exactly the point of it.

I’m aware that 1v1 servers and guild hall arenas exist, but those are more of a community thing. Again, they don’t have any form of rewards and most guilds I’m in have turned them into custom jump puzzles.

What if this is made into a game mode, with its own reward tracks/ titles/ leaderboards. Basically first to eliminate the other player/ players in a best of 3 rounds with its own ranking and Spvp gear stats? It’d be entertaining to watch and far more straightforward for someone who just wants a fast and fair PVP fix.

Any thoughts?

Phil.8901:

- Around 58% w/l to reach Legendary (179 games played)
- Matchmaker is worst than s2, you have queue time longer and the game quality is not better. Better players stacked together against worst players
- Legendary (and divisions in general) means nothing.
- No reason to continue to play in Legendary Division. No rewards associated.
- No interesting rewards if you have already finished the wings. Nothing to buy with tickets.

What you need to do

- Ranked queue with solo,duo queue and full team only. Full team only against Full team

- Remove pips system and make moving up/down between divisions based on MMR. Decay if you don’t play (fixed not temporary). Show MMR at the end and how many points you gain/lose.

- Not save points. Ok Tiers for rewards. Tiers based ofc on MMR and not on pips/grinding.

- More rewards. More stuff to buy with tickets (example G. Hero Armor pieces). Multiplier to exp reward tracks based on current division.

This system is already 10000x better than what we have now.

New Game mode with next XPAC

Arena pvp 2vs2.

Same structure described before.

Final Result and Comment

The game is like 10000x better. In this way the majority of player base will be happy, great chance to attract new players, more twitch viewers (with arena 2vs2). A larger competitive base. Better reputation for the game (pvp side).

Btw if you are not confident about this approach, give us a system like this in beta with a final poll, I believe 100% the majoirty of player base will be happy.

agree 100%

+1

Please keep in mind what it does at the moment. If someone is going to argue (not saying that you’re arguing this) that weakness is not very strong, then they are kidding themselves.

-50% endurance regeneration + 50% of all hits are glancing (half damage.) The endurance regen is enough in itself, but the damage reduction is a little overkill.

I think that glancing blows should be 2/3 the damage instead of half damage. The endurance regeneration should go down to -33% instead of 50. That would still make weakness a good condition overall without nerfing it too much, but would help reduce the sustain that condi bunkers have against everyone.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

looking forward for season 4? NOPE, but will i play during S4? YES till i reach legendary then stop. aslong as ANET doesnt give legendary players a reason why keep playing at that level with lack of reward. dont even start with long Q’s. and i think it will be worst these S4.

Not going to happen. I made a thread suggesting a reward system for playing in legendary, but bunch of people raged and said that there should be no rewards for playing in the top league.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Legendary-League-sPVP-reward-progression/first#post6234862

carrion toughness variant
1200 condition damage
900 toughness
900 power

Afkers\Leavers should pay by 1 tier or even a division for afk\leave.

Rewards that promote participation whether you win or lose is what’s needed. Gold or skins or titles for reaching long term goals like heals per match or caps per round. Anything to keep people actively fighting. The game could also be improved by rewarding people for doing things like capping and ressing and stomping.

So who is your favorite?

I personally like Ostrich Eggs because of the kick kitten music playlist (which if ill guess his age based on the music, he’s about in his early-mid 30s (correct me if im wrong, OE)) and his voice that goes from super low to falsetto at times.

Boot.7368:

Necromancer
Besides the fact that I haven’t played enough necro to come up with a more extensive suggestion, I believe there should be some type of passive change to fear bursts. For instance, in WoW there was the mechanic of Diminishing Returns (DR basically made consecutive crowd controls of the same type stun/fear/etc- the effect getting diminished for each application – 50%/75% then immune).
Now, I was thinking of something along these lines: Right now necro, does a little bit too much of everything. Decent necros running the terror build will kill you in a fear chain if you don’t have a stun break and overall their damage output is too much considering the “effort” they have to put for it. I was thinking of a change like: for each consecutive fear from the necro, his damage output is reduced by 20/40/60% for the duration of the fear. This way, his damage goes back to normal after the fear ends and you will not be stuck in an unstoppable fear chain once your stunbreak is on cooldown while taking silly condition damage. The % values are just for show, I haven’t put very much thought into them, but that’s the core idea.

I think it would be simpler to add a short internal cooldown to Terror, although I still believe Dhuumfire is what’s screwing everything up.

Bows should given the most attention of all ranger’s weapons imo. +1

now that sb is nerfed better expect some nerfs to sword and axe.
how else can u get ppl to use longbow.
not trolling
just following arenanet logic

Change longbow 3 to daze and it’ll flow better with shortbow real talks.
Longbow is slow as hell and so a power build flops when it takes you a half hour for a skill to go off.

agree the only way that ranger has to deal vs boons is to rely on teammates like thieves and necros he can’t handle them by himself

Current class forums are not a good place to discuss classes in PvP, as they are mostly dominated by PvE and WvW players. Players coming from diffirent game modes have completely diffirent views on class balance, which makes discussion much more difficult. Most PvPers make their class-related threads on this forum, making it quite cluttered.

I’ld love to see a setup similar to GW2Guru, where PvP class forums are separated from WvW/PvE ones.

Adding some extra subforums is a simple change, and I believe it’ld benefit PvP community greatly

Awesome post. I’m on board with everything but #7. I think the pop up should be bigger and play a noise.

firebreathz.7692:

I have “decayed” by 2 places since last night.. so there will be a decay from players over taking in the rankings.. other than that i know nothing on decay coding in there..

an answer would be nice..

a question.. would the community want a decay code or just have it as it is and have active players gradually take over..

that way there is no penalty for taking a break from the game or it being an emergency.

or do you feel that if the rank was attained easily then should it decay for more competition?

This isn’t decay. This is players over-taking your current rank pushing you down. What decay is, is automatically reducing your MMR based on inactivity after a certain period.

Here’s an example. Last month let’s say theoretically there was 100 active players in tournaments. My MMR was very high because of the low competition. Two months later 10,000 active players are playing, but my MMR is still high because I have chosen not to play any tournaments. The competition is much much higher now, and if I were to compete against 10,000 active players my mmr would never be that high, yet it still is because I haven’t decayed over time so in the grand picture of rankings I will stay with-in the top ranks.

That’s an example of how a non-decay system would work.

An example of how a decay system would work: Let’s say after the two weeks of no tournament play the system will reduce my MMR by a few ticks every day until I play again. Once I play again, if I lose or win the MMR will sort itself out.

What does that do? It keeps the best players that are active at the top of the rankings in relation to the current competition with-in the community.

lots of people put necro low. I quite disagree as they can have a useful build in almost every category. and every1 puts eles up top but really only the REALLY good eles would be first. like maybe 10% and all the other eles would be much lower.
1)Top tier Elementalists (really. I dnt need to say anything)
2)Mesmer (for their unmatchable group utility)
3) Engineer (great survivability, group utility and support. has some nice dps too)
4) Necromancer ( great condition, power, or support builds. poor mobility is a downside)
5) Thief (great mobility and dps but not much group utility)
6)Guard (great support but very limited. cnt adapt very well to situations)
7) Every other ele
9) Ranger (Rangers are in a bad spot for pvp imo)
10) Warrior (generally useless. more so now frenzy is gone)

From what I have truly seen, it would seem like this to me:

1- Ele
2- Thief
3- Mesmer
4- Eng
5- Guard
6- Ranger
7- Necro
8- Warrior

Warriors are actually 8-10,000, because that’s how awful they are right now.