Guild Wars 2

Why did you delete it? Wether people are being negative or not 100% map completion at level 79 is pretty cool

The thief is only unavailable if you fail to stop them restealthing. Even an immobilize will ruin a bad thiefs day.. Learn to auto attack the air, before you know it you’ll have a thief on the ground =]

Nice working putting this together. Keep it clean and updated and we might get it stickied like the Mesmer’s index.

Acrobatics line. 5 points

Got a “bad link” on all 3. Put down the actual links so they can be copy pasted. Also as far as i know the Lazy Kai’s 20/20/0/0/30 is the optimal dungeon build.

LordByron.8369:

to clarify i think that 33% CD increase on RTL cooldown + nerf to vigor and swiftness is quite enough….

Now even ele have to rely on runes to put up some decent swiftness duration….but complainers aren t happy yet.

Also for www there is not even a comparison between ele and mesmer…..just take your mesmer you have many builds some of wich are hugely OP for current www state of zerg wars…….

Ok for a starters.. I havnt really played my ele in awhile.. so i dont know how those changes have affected their mobility.. But i can guarantee my ele can still hold perma swiftness, runes or not.

As for “Zerg Wars” Thats actually where Ele’s would outshine Mesmers. We’ve got 1? Build for zerg fights and thats the glamour confusion build. Mesmers are alot stronger in small skirmishes.

LordByron.8369:

Also its quite false you jump in and out of combat….those are thieves….expecially since last nerf

To clarify, i meant running like a coward to reset the fight then coming back in when its in your favor ( WvW ).

Yeah ive got both and ele and mesmer at 80 aswell. I really prefer the mesmer. Ele’s imo are just too much hassle to the same results as another class.

The D/D bunker build for example has ALOT of jumping around and attunement swapping, running in and out of combat, blowing the same rotation over.. and over.. and if you lay it all down perfectly and dont get caught in melee range or get locked down.. Congrats! You beat someone..

Mesmers on the other hand.. Stun breakers! Clones! Stealth! Butterflys! Boom!
They really are THE most fun class.. They’re like theives.. But with real control and flare. Mesmers are more forgiving than Ele’s too.. Make a mistake with your rotation? np.. Just kite and clone till your ready to go again..

Diversity. Mesmers have several viable and fun builds to play with.
Ele’s You’ve got DD bunker.. or staff support or Zerker.

Group play! Ele’s have superior survivability.. Which is great for supporting your team mates and being the last one standing.
Mesmers have a portal

Thats just my opinion though.. I wasn’t a really good elementalist.. Out of my 5 80’s ( Ranger, Thief, Warrior, Ele, Mesmer ) I prefer the Mesmer over them all.

Here is a build i made myself, i find it REALLY good with full zerker.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Need-advice-on-Staff-build/first#post1343603

Balth is open on IoJ.

Had a great time in EB tonight trying to hold of DR as they swept through. Didn’t stand much of a chance at first. After losing Jerri I holed myself up in the keep knowing it would only be a matter of time.

Then came the trebs. Done a bit of damage with the catapult, not enough before you destroyed it though.. When you crawled up to the inner gate I was thankful to see some IoJ reinforcements.

After a bit of a backwards and forwards push I though it best to drop a counter treb and with that you lost your offense. Granted you tries to hold your ground with a couple catapults.. But we didn’t think it wise to let you finish them :p

I think IoJ biggest problem right now is its reluctance to make a move or even listen to another player unless there is a commander holding their hand.

After our skirmish with DR we lost Jerri to EBay which shouldn’t have happened. We had our treb on the wall and bringing it down.. But because we lacked the awe inspiring commander to point out the obvious… We let EBay go straight trough the front door.

After pushing away another Zerg, at our front door this time, EB became PvD.

I think we can take tonight as a win for IoJ. The scoreboard may have a different opinion But I believe if we can put on a show like we did tonight more often then we will really make a name for our server.

We’ve lost a lot of strong guilds, but that doesn’t mean we are a weak server.

For what your focusing on I can see that would be a good variant. Im going to test my build a bit more and maybe try and improve on it.

Thanks for the reply Azrael. Your build, to me, seems more like a moderate damage and survival build.

The aim of my build going so heavy into air was to maximise my damage. By keeping fury up all the time I sit at a little over %50 crit chance and over 75 crit damage.
The price you pay for this of course is a very squishy ele.

Ok so this is the first time ive actually made my own build, i usually just copy and paste what ever is good each month :P

Looking for some feedback and advice on trait/gear choices. Im kinda new to the ele myself, and dont like the feel of DD so I thought i’d go glassy Staff.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQFAWhImmbyxywjDAhHEwQCCFPYRRxM7A;TkAg0Cvo6yokQJrXuukeNEB

Traits: 30/20/0/0/20
Fire: Eternal fire. Pryomancer’s Alacrity. Pyromancer’s Puissance.
Air: Zephry’s boon. Bolt to the Heart.
Arcana: Elemental Attunement. Blasting Staff.
Gear: Full berserker armor/weapons. Valkyrie jewelry with a karka earing .
Runes: 2 monk, 2 water, 2 fury.
Sigil of Battle on staff.

I like staff because i find it has ALOT of control over the battlefield, in large fights anyway. In smaller skirmishers Staff ( i think ) tends to fall behind a bit as the hard hitting AoE’s need to be placed more defensivly whilst your constantly trying to keep out of melee range.

The build is your typical mage. Sit in the back and lob fireballs around. I generally start in earth. Magnetic Aura ( for the fury ) and place down my first AoE, Eruption. From there ill switch into water for Ice spike. Then into fire to start the heavy AoE rotation. By this time i have a reasonably high amount of might too.
Water 4 ( frozen ground ) is saved with my utilitie Arcane Wave for a frost aura if i need to give myself fury a boost.

After ive went through the rotations and Attunements come back off cooldown i cycle through again to keep fury up. If i done right i can keep perma fury up.

The aim of my build going so heavy into Fire and Air was to maximise my damage. By keeping fury up all the time I sit at a little over %50 crit chance and over 75 crit damage.
The price you pay for this of course is a very squishy ele.

The build was made to focus around tower defense/offence ( wvw ). I dont think it would be ideal for PvE/Dungeons as it hasnt got very high defense and no team support ( which it seems ele’s are most desired for ).

That said, im not a fan of having to change builds for each different scenario so i’d probably try and make it work.

Ive tried the build myself, I think its pretty good. But always looking to be better.

Any advice or criticism regarding the build are welcome, Thanks for taking the time to read it.

Edit: Grammer. Added build link. Formatted.

If you get the “bad link” error message just copy and paste the link. Not sure why its not working.

Tulisin.6945:

Bren Ranger.3725:

Do you want 20 acro for survivability or 20 tricks for M0AR Bur$T!?!…

Acrobatics is a powerful offensive traitline too, though. I actually prefer both Acrobatics and Trickery for S/P, instead of Deadly Arts.

Listen to this guy ^ Probably has a far more effective build :P

I didnt think of putting Acro in it until i seen your build. Its personal perference i suppose.. Do you want 20 acro for survivability or 20 tricks for M0AR Bur$T!?!.. The CD reduction on haste is really good.

Edit: I forgot to mention too, Critical haste is maybe better than Combo critical chance.. Again personal preference ..

This is what im using.
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mckmMc9coTvFMoTvFMGx9MGcaMsqVR

In my experience thieves dont do “well rounded” We are better with full offence or full defence.. That being said I play a 20/30/0/0/20 build for my PW thief. Valkyrie armor with zerker jewels. Haste + PW, good times..

Ath.2531:

The business direction of the game.

Even though i know that the developers work really hard (and it shows) end game (getting rare skins, legendaries, etc) points straight to the gem store.

The massive grind required for all things end game and the lack of real story/achievement driven objectives further point to that direction. I don’t like to consipracycraft but there’s hardly any evidence or statements to disprove mine and other people’s concerns.
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I agree with alot of things in this thread, but this one has been on my mind lately.

Naighel.7452:

sigil of paralize and rune mesmer stack?

I dont think they do.

Venoma.7052:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

kimosabe.3452:

my new years resolution is 1920×1080. hyuck hyuck
got that off of facebook. sorry ill leave now lol

Thats gold

My life is pretty much perfect right now.. My new years reso is to get a good stable job so i can better support my family. Then i earn the achivement “got it all” :P

l2p? maybe.. l2not.gear.glass.cannon.style definatly..

Our burst is huge, no doubt but that is how they are meant to work.
I can understand the reasoning behind having “steal telegraphed in someway” But at the same time i dont agree with it.. Without our surprise we will be countered even easier from better players.

Tips: You know the combo is coming when you see basilisk venom or the CnD amination being cast into the air. Dodge this and its over.

If they thief is attacking from stealth using the steal – backstab then he is losing a good chunk of damage from CnD and so should be easily countered, dodge roll the HS spam best you can then chill and run/kite.

I think you will find they are pre casting CnD with steal.. Steal will hit first, then CnD into a basckstab.

Edit: Working as intented IMO. Thieves are a burst class.. We burst..

/Thread.

You must not know how this already affects thieves. Please do your research before calling for nerfs.

Screenshot, report and move along. They are aware of the issues and cant do anything without it being reported.

Thankyou for the detailed reply. I dont know why i didn’t just fall back to this. I used to run this very build, granted a few traits options we’re different and it really is an amazing build.

Thanks again, happy hunting.

Edit: Though when i ran it i was using Valkyrie armor for some added Vitality. It will be interesting to see how the full zerker goes.

I currently run a D/D Glass cannon thief, like most seem too. Im wondering is there something better? I dont want to lose my killing power and i would like to stick to daggers ( personal preferance ).

But i feel when i run in a group, as i and my guildie often do, im nothing but a hinderance. I can down enemies quickly, no question, but what have i got after that? Im the first to go down because of my low health pool and armor.

What i want to know is.
What are some popular or viable builds/armor sets that allot me to dish it out without being squishy. ( i like to be able to solo aswell )

What are you running in WvW? and how do you like it.

Thanks.

Once again Awesome answer. Thanks heaps. Once ive got the money up to rebuild my toon properly ill give this a shot and see how i go.

Thanks.

Awesome just what i was looking for thankyou. How do you go 1v1?
Im seeing S/D as being more on the supportive side than the ultimate solo weapon.

I really want to get into S/D. At the moment im using D/D and using it fine, But i want something more than a burst and run build.

Is S/D viable? If so what are some good builds.
And most important, what armor should i be using?

Human Ranger. Been looking for a set I like for awhile.. When I couldnt find one, I made one.

4 rare longbows for a small chance and 4 exotic longbows for a better but still small chance.

I run a high power decent survivablity build for both WvW and PvE.

30/20/10/10/0

Longbow is the primary weapon only switching to warhorn for speed.
My utilities are Healing Spring, QZ, Lightning reflexes, and i switch between signet on the hunt/wild. Elite is Entagle.

Full Valk armor with Rune of the Ranger. Berserker accessories. Berserker bow with 5% damage sigil.

Using your evades and knockback at the right time is key, do it too often and you lose endurance dont do it enough and you’ll be sitting in melee range of them enemy.

Never played a Mesmer and never been in the position to use the portal either.. But i would hate to see this Utility go. We need skills like this.. and more of them. Stuff that can be used to really turn the tide of a battle or deploy large attacks using stratergy instead of zerging about aimlessly.