Guess you were writing allready, as I edited my post Star. See above.
Speak later. My bread is calling.
Cod wrapped in breadcrumbs!
Looks like no GvG with our buddy Cod
Why don’t you just 1v1 him to show your l337 skillz
Eh, the problem with 1v1 is that some classes absolutely stand no chance against others if the opponents are equally skilled.
Such is the sad state of GW2 balance right now.
Now now, you must not have read the latest patch notes. All those tool tip updates to correct the radius of skills = 110% profession balance #gw2classbalance.
The amount of animosity SoR built up from coming 2nd place to BG is astounding. If they were smart they would push JQ during NA and EU to have a shot at first place.
We don’t play for ppt. We don’t care what place we come in really long as we have good fights.
Most on SoR want JQ to win, it’ll be a nice change of pace.
keep telling yourself that :P
That type of attitude you have is very unsportsmanlike.
You should appreciate every server winning or being able to win.
I was referring to the first part of your post; the “we don’t play for PPT” part.
Every server plays to win (in this case playing to get more points than the other 2 servers). WvWvW is designed to have 1 winner & 2 losers. That’s the whole point of WvWvW; playing to beat the other 2 servers.
Saying you don’t play for PPT is as good as saying you’re playing to lose. Have some server pride will ya?
As much as I realize this is just feeding the troll…. I feel I need to point out that there is a large group of people in this world that play video games for this thing called “fun”. You might try it some time, it actually isn’t that bad. And, honestly, it’s kinda nice to not base your enjoyment on the little numbers at the top of the screen.
Not all servers are interested in fighting the BG blobs all the time.
JQ got sick of it, TC is sick of it. Honestly, SoR would probably be sick of it if they weren’t used to it from T2 and is mostly full of stubborn diehard people.
But BG finally got what they’ve always wanted, un-competitive wins.
People on SoR are sick of it too… don’t think we aren’t.
So, after sadly reading through what will surely be the least interesting two pages of our thread ever, the only question I have left is…
Do you guys from BT not realize how bad you are making yourselves and your guild look, or do you just not care?
(from someone who wasn’t there and really doesn’t care outside of your forum kittening)
Sigh… why does it only matter when your enemy does it? [FEAR] is known for crashing some GvGs. Are they making themselves look bad in your eyes? Or do they not count?
I have yet to see FEAR on here trumpeting about how amazing they are with their ability to crash GvGs… but yeah, anyone that does it is pretty lame in my eyes, regardless of the server they are on.
(this is coming from the guy that complains in TS when his group is fighting people at their spawn… so maybe I just like sportsmanship/not trying to ruin other peoples fun)
The first time i ever heard of a guild crashing a gvg in tier 1 was TW. Now i know they are not complaining about what BT did just wanted to let others know that bit of information.
TW has never crashed a GvG. FEAR has on multiple occasions. When you crash a GvG, you essentially ruin any chances of partaking in one. There would be no benefit to doing it.
I guess if i would find the jq,sos,sor matchup thread with proof you would just deny it
edit- seems like anet deletes old threads.anyways here is what happened tw was offended that agg wouldnt gvg them so they crashed the gvg.deny it all you want but it happened.
Your google-foo is weak, my child, allow me to help:
Just a heads up, though, I searched the entirety of that post, GvG is only in there twice, once in a signature, and once in an announcement that GvG would be occuring in the future. TW is mentioned a few times more then that, though mostly in signatures…
Also, 6 months ago. Also, does not prove your point.
Mist form allows condition damage to continue to tick on the ele…. anyone know if this is a bug or intentional? Just started noticing it on the Zephyr patch release (mid-June).
Do you guys from BT not realize how bad you are making yourselves and your guild look, or do you just not care?
Anonymity is a beautiful thing. Noone has to care. Unless you’re one of those people that put a guild name on a job app.
That aside, it’s funny to watch everyone get dirty with the forum trolls. The real troll is that the zerger trash think they’re good on all sides You aspire to be the best mediocre players in a casual game.
So, after sadly reading through what will surely be the least interesting two pages of our thread ever, the only question I have left is…
Do you guys from BT not realize how bad you are making yourselves and your guild look, or do you just not care?
(from someone who wasn’t there and really doesn’t care outside of your forum kittening)
Sigh… why does it only matter when your enemy does it? [FEAR] is known for crashing some GvGs. Are they making themselves look bad in your eyes? Or do they not count?
I have yet to see FEAR on here trumpeting about how amazing they are with their ability to crash GvGs… but yeah, anyone that does it is pretty lame in my eyes, regardless of the server they are on.
(this is coming from the guy that complains in TS when his group is fighting people at their spawn… so maybe I just like sportsmanship/not trying to ruin other peoples fun)
So few weeks ago, Waha said he’s going to break SOR’s moral.
I think its working and without Waha being in the match.
Waha did say that but what it really did was kitten off some of JQ’s wvw focused guilds as Waha was focused on a personal server vendetta instead of looking at the bigger picture for his server. It resulted in several JQ guilds transferring off. Don’t think he expected that…
Far as morale, Waha’s JQ force had a huge SEA presence, this none of us can deny. JQ’s presence in T1 when Waha was playing for points kept BG’s SEA semi in check. Now that their sole big competition has dropped down tiers they are allowed to do what they do and kudos for BG SEA team for taking advantage of that.
I think you have this partially, but from my perspective it was the SoR AND JQ SEA presence that kept BG in check. BG can apparently field more maps then either SoR or JQ could alone, but SoR+JQ could give them a challenge during this time, preventing them from simply running over empty/low coverage maps. Now that only SoR SEA (sub-2 maps fielded) is there, BG can do as they please on the uncovered maps, and our awesome SEA guys just can’t be everywhere at once.
While the BG NA force is focusing on that PPT, they are getting wrecked in the open field.
I won’t go as far as saying wrecked, you act as if SoR never wipes in open field and your so superior. I have seen SoR guilds of all sorts run from fights, I have seen SoR guilds hide in there towers. You are no different then any other groups out there. If your out numbered you run, it happens every night.
Hmm, let’s start with <insert random servers guild>, <insert random servers guild>, and most of all, the vaunted <insert random servers guild> – all have been wiped, countless times in open field and have run from fights, as well…..oh my, wait for those forum warriors to refute this one……
This is what it looks like every time IRON takes a keep. Same goes for the chat box.
Is it such a wonder why you get so much attention on the forums? :P
Ya know it is usually one guys spamming it all and usually a pug.
Call me skeptical.
I’ve seen both TC and BG do this. Let’s all just agree that there are kids playing this game and not hold the servers accountable for these acts, mhmmkay.
Full Server vrs Full Server vrs Full Server = Full PPT available
Full Server vrs Full Server vrs Outmanned Server = Less than Full PPT available (at least to full servers)
Full Server vrs Seriously Outmanned Server vrs Seriously Outmanned Server = Not much PPT available (miniscule PPT available to full server)
With all kinds of permutations in the middle, the essence being a low pop server doesn’t have many points to offer a full server.
Three not full but almost equal populations servers would have all PPT available.
And like that.
Makes sense to me. In a nutshell, you don’t get paid for essentially doing nothing.
Just because the server is full, it doesn’t mean the entire server plays WvW… TC is a great example of that
I think the poster meant to say map instead of server. The idea being you score full points when your opponents have the map queued but proportionally less the fewer opponents are on the map. It might put an end to “nightcapping” but I doubt we’ll see anything like that implemented.
Too easily gamed, imo.
The only workable answer is for the players to spread themselves out to even the fields per tier. Having 1 (or even 2) stacked servers during a time zone while the others just get rolled over is a population problem, and the only solution is for the population to spread themselves out.
One would hope that the players consistently karma training eventually get bored and move to a competing server…
Those looking for competition (like TW moving to JQ for a week when SoR dropped to a lower tier) will do this on their own. It’s basically the opposite of the fair weathers moving to the #1 server all the time (though it pretty obviously doesn’t happen as much).
I can’t speak for everyone, but we at TC are stoked to be facing SOR and BG. I’m sorry if some of us disrespected your GvG. Keep in mind I have no context for this breach. I just wanted to offer that not all of us are like that.
There are bad apples on every server that do this. I’ve seen it first hand from both BG and SoR players… anyone that judges a whole server by the actions of a few are just uninformed and can be safely ignored.
TC & BG thanks for the 2v1 fun fights and all the bags trying to take our garrison lastnight. It was like the battle of the Alamo all over again but only this time the Alamo never fell but it did come close before I logged off.
And thank you for all the bags you all provided. QQ much? Another who cannot look beyond the tactical to see the strategic, huh? 1) the vast bulk of SoR [from all maps] was locked down in SoR Gerri; 2) SoR Gerri had more holes in it than Swiss cheese and SoR had no supplies; 3) you went from a 6K PPT advantage to a near 10K deficit, all for the sack of being locked down saving your “Alamo”……giggity, giggity.
Thank you for admitting we only had 1 map worth of players… Now then, put a bit of thought into it and figure out how the points shifted so much during this time. /troll
The fight in Garri was a lot of fun. Rushing back and forth to push off 40 man squads from BG on the east and TC on the west for 3 hours straight was some of the most enjoyable WvW I’ve had in the last 2 months. And the bags, oh my god the bags. Props to both sides for keeping the pressure up for so long.
It amazes me that BG can put on 12k points between 2am and 10am PDT, and still come on these forums to complain about SoR.
When you guys get tired of winning by PvD through-out Sea, how about you ask one or two of your guilds from that time zone to transfer off “for the fights”. Seems like a nightly karma train across all border lands would be boring after a week or two.
Same goes with your NA and EU guilds.
1/10, would not read again.
SoR PvD in NA… that’s pretty funny, though. Maybe I’ll bump this to 2/10.
It amazes me that BG can put on 12k points between 2am and 10am PDT, and still come on these forums to complain about SoR.
When you guys get tired of winning by PvD through-out Sea, how about you ask one or two of your guilds from that time zone to transfer off “for the fights”. Seems like a nightly karma train across all border lands would be boring after a week or two.
Just want to take a minute and give props to the guys from DB. Good fights this week, had a lot of fun out there. I noticed over the last night or two you’ve adopted the “run map blob” tactic. I get it, it’s the only viable counter, though I would like to advise you to NOT continue using it if the match-ups change next week. You’ll quickly find that it makes for the least fun WvW experience. Just a heads up.
Your small group tactics were pretty kitten amusing over the weekend, and so much more fun then any week night has been.
Other than this week, which has been your people not showing up, you guys normally tick around 150-200, nothing personal but that is not PvDoor numbers from our side. You guys had one bad week and all of a sudden its “WE ARE SO OUTNUMBERED IN SEA”
I was being generous when I said we can tick from 100-200 and so were you with your 150-200. 100-120 ppt would be a good showing with sub 100 just as likely if not more so. I have been able to play during the day when I’m “working from home” so I’ve experienced this myself.
My screenshot above isn’t a rare occurrence. SOR players who regularly play this time of the day probably suffer from some form of PTSD from all the abuse they take.
I just looked at last week’s point ticks, almost every oceanic time you guys were ticking between 150-200. there are obviously a few instances where it drops down below for one tick, but never were you guys in double digits, and actually there were points where you guys were pushing 250 points at the end of the week. Not to say that you guys have less numbers than us in sea/oceanic, because you do, but it is not as bad as the people in the thread are making it out to be. It was just a week of people not showing up.
Last week, you mean during the HOLIDAY of the 4th of July, when a lot of people took time off and could put in extra hours. Can you maybe expand your review to include normal weeks and not weeks where there were extra people that are normally at work playing during these times? Might help you figure things out.
Sorry, please allow me to spell it out for you so you don’t have to think it through for yourself…
*where SoR NA has been, during their time slot over the past few nights…
Hopefully you can now understand my meaning.
We have been ticking away between 300-400 during my NA play time all week. So your comment makes no sense to me as written.
sigh there was no need to be rude.
Yeah, sorry about that, I just assumed you were trolling based on your reply.
Last night we only broke 300 ppt a few ticks prior to 5pm PDT, so I guess you are on the east coast (I’m a westie, so things that happen before 6pm PDT are off my radar). I haven’t had a queue to enter a BL any night this week (ie. M-W), which is what I was basing my statement on. To me (as I stated in the opening sentence of my first post) is seems that we are not at our normal level of player activity.
I’ll preface this with a simple statement, I can only speak for myself.
To everyone asking where SoR NA is (like it isn’t apparent), we aren’t in WvW. Lag and disconnects have made it pointless to even try. I, and a number of others I’ve spoken with about it, are sitting it out in hopes that the issue clears up. We play for fun, and it isn’t fun when half of our skills don’t activate in combat and moving around just leads to being disconnected from the server.
But sure, maybe we really just want to recruit more guilds… that makes much more sense.
You aspire to be the best mediocre players in a casual game.