Guild Wars 2

Because the focus is the most awesome thing you can bring into any fight, why replace it… I would go for sword over dagger any day but my focus is like my heart, remove it and I’m dead.

I would see sword as a middle range between the scepter and dagger.

Is that the diamond edition not yet announced which will be 1 day after the expansion comes out?

Changer the Elder.2948:

And you demand them to do exactly what? Teleport the whole staff that’s there away from E3 (where it has its own obligations), use a summoning stone to bind them to chairs in one room and reach an executive decision? Even if you did that immediately, it DOES take time for a bunch of people to agree on something, doubly so if it’s this tricky. Even if they decided three days ago to edit what they are doing, editing policies that are tied to gathering money is a tricky thing (just for the legal issues alone) and requires moving on tips of your fiscal toes.

Would it really help had miss Gray popped up and said “We’re trying to work it out”? without being able to say “work it out how?” Normally, I would say yes, but with the current amount of vitriol in here, no. All it would do would be to sharpen pitchforks for some, call others for snidy insults and have the rest to start speculating, which always leads to unreasonable expectations.

Yes that is exactly what I am asking for, would you have read the rest of the thread you would have understood that what I want is not a solution. I don’t care if what they say won’t make me happy, just asking them to show they acknowledge all this and if yes or no they are looking into better perspective.

Vayne.8563:

Daxxter.8920:

Time is money and in this case silence is not gold.

You know less about business than you think you do. Haste makes waste. See we can all quote proverbs.

Never have I mentioned I was a business guru, I am a simple human with no patience demanding answers. Defend Anet all you want, won’t change anything and won’t make me more patient.

Time is money and in this case silence is not gold.

Yes I would agree 100% with what you said if history was not repeating it self, as I mentioned above, they ALWAYS go in hiding mode when they need to address something and wait for the tornado to pass before coming back like it never happened

It’s kind of simple, I think 90% of unhappy players are asking for a simple character slot, not a price drop.

Here is a metaphor of the issue, it’s like buying a new car but you would need to pay an extra to get the wheels to drive it out of the shop.

I work my kitten off at my job, will people consider my work if the president announced we wont be supporting existing customers anymore, only new ones ?

Should have taken that precious time to think it up before the expansions pre-release announcement in that case…

Even more than all this HoT story is that every time there is a big issue Anet needs to address or comment, they use hide in plain sight and disappear. Couple of weeks or months later Anet reappears and be like “huh HoT debacle, don’t know what you’re talking about”.

Is it to hard for them to address this even in a negative way for veterans to at least show this isn’t just a fart in a windstorm and they are actually aware of what is going on ?

ShadowCatz.8437:

Kury.8210:

Krysard.1364:

Its is possible to pre-order and use te core-game, yep

Not sure if my question was understood. I’m asking if they can use the core game “that comes with the pre-order” right now. This is actually not related to the whole debate going on right now. I’m just trying to find out how the pre-order works. (Though pretty certain I’ll just be telling everyone to wait for now.)

People here have already made you aware that there is a difference between doing a pre-order (which you might be able to cancel and get your money back), in this cases you should recommend your friends to buy this game directly from Anet (to be sure that the only responsible for purchase will be Anet; there probably plenty of sites with stolen/fake game code right now).

If they bought game from Anet then there will be a purchase of HoT and today HoT are still only in is in beta stage which means that there is no warrant for how this extended part of GW2 will become or how well it will run (both from how mega server will handle this kind of load and users own computer [the client]).

That is why Anet now call it “Pre-purchase” in that way it is not a completely “ready” game where all content are in place yet and it might even happen that your will experience some more problems with disconnects, unstable frame rates or other problem which isn’t funny to deal with when one want only to play the game. For a pre-purchase you will get access to beta HoT with GW2 as the main story (both personal story and living story – here I am not sure if you would need to buy the rest of season 1 or 2 to get all back ground for HoT; had to buy myself a large part of Season 2 through Gem store), the final version when it is ready for publish (and at same time be able to play through your char up to lvl 80 and beyond (the new mastery system)). That is why you will have GW2 core game for “free” as A) you need it to build your char HoT is not designed on a new game engine, but a development on top of Guild Wars 2 with added maps and content aka an expansion which need core game to be able to run.

Right now I would make your friend aware that even with GW2 (standard) you will give you access part of those updates which will be in HoT, as Anet need to test everything with all player online and new player should do better to wait a bit until there is more information about how HoT actually will work.

Beta testing is one thing, but playing a game and have odd behaviour like get stuck in environment (which could even happen in “old” GW2), might get annoying and if you would lose your char for some reason or have more serious problems with this expansion, Anet could just blame it (HoT) on being a part of GW2 which is in beta stage right now. There is no final date for when this expansion will be considered RTM (final version – which doesn’t excludes updates in between).

Sorry but there is a big difference between Pre-Purchase and Early Access…

Pre-Purchase means when it comes out you will get the full thing.

Early Access means you get access to a game still being developed

I am also afraid that “challenging content” means zerging tequatle like gameplay, we do not have information on that portion also. The only thing we know as of now is what we are not getting which is kind of lame for a reputable company like Anet.

Do you think Blizzard became what it is based on probabilities? The players knew each and every time what their money would get them before even being able to drop a single penny on the game and expansions and that even a year before the launch date which also was not a secret.

Tell them to wait a couple of years and buy the Complete or Platinum version containing the core game and all the expansion for 50$.

All the hate aside, forget the fact that 50$ doesn’t get you much, this is not what this thread is about.

I as a player and millions are demanding to know what we pay for, GW2 is not a roulette game, we don’t put 50$ on probabilities. This is a bit strong but, you have no right to make me pay 50, 75 or 100$ without even releasing a presentation of what I am paying for. Yes it is an expansion I get that but what does it contain, how big is it, what am I getting for my money. Will you as a company be reimbursing me if I do not consider what I pay for to be what is described as an “expansion”? (we call that bad advertisement)

Why is it so hard to advise people about what they are paying for, is it a single map which could take up to 60h to complete and have a good replay value? Am I paying only for 1 waypoint and a single vista? We have no friggin clue and not even one bit of information on that portion has been released but hey let me pay 50$ for random content.

Would you as devs go to the store and buy mystery box #1 without even knowing what it contains? Would you buy a game from another company which never released screenshots, names or what it is about? Even kickstarter games which are just a speculation advertise what you will get…

I am not asking for a 2hours video on every bit of detail, just asking for " this expansion contains x, y and z a new class 3 big kitten maps" and be done with it, there you go I know now what my 50$ gets me. Is this expansion so secretive that the Illuminati would come knocking at my door and make me disappear or what?

Thanks for reading,

One image to sum it up !

The problem is not the cost of the expansion , it’s s the fact that they are charging you 50$ and a single character slot is a luxury that you have to pay more for. It’s like buying a car and the weels would be an extra if you want to drive it.

Well written and worthy of an answer…

Anet, if you fall under the same practices as * cough * EA, Ubisoft or any other greedy company, it will be your downfall….

60$ US which is about 70 something in Canadian where I live and that was not my point.

I am ok with the price of the expansion, I have no complaint on that part. I put about 20 to 30$ in this game monthly without any regret, I have purchased 3 extra character slots to have each class. The core game came with 5 slots which is also fine, it was my decision to add more to that and was happy to dish out the money for it.

Now the part where I state my point, I have been giving you money on a daily basis even tho it is not a pay to play model, the fact that you aren’t even giving at least one slot to try out the new class is like releasing a game where you have to buy your character to play it. I am still baffled that after all the money I put in to your game a character slot is a luxury for you guys. I am not from the US, buying your expansion plus a character slot would be about 70$ for me which is ridiculous.

Now the sad part, you prefer losing a customer base who are buying regularly on the black lion with real money because you guys want the extra 10$ on a character slot and not offering it to your loyal players.

Welp today Anet you just made a mess out of your own game and I hope you guys are happy. I had no issue paying 50$ for it but now you are going to lose a monthly 30$ for a 10$ character slot…

You just kittened off your whole playerbase with that stupid core game inclusion in the HoT package, plus giving a new clas with no new slot for it…

You better do something about it or there will be a genocide happening…

Staff Warrior will rule them all OR they could give a staff to your pet also, that could probably work.

As I already stated, what bugs me is not the fact that shield will be useless because mesmer has awesome offhand weapons, it’s the fact that if you follow the meta you end up with your second kit equiped only with 1 offhand. It would have been awesomme not being stuck with a sword all the time with the slow auto attack and the traited 9 second burst cooldown on #2 skill and actually have another decent mainhand option to compliment the sword.

I am also having trouble to see how an offhand with 2 skills can be “just as good” as a 2h like a hammer or a GS with 5 skills or than a 1h giving you 3 skills and could give a better auto attack option.

Sabwa.7358:

I really like shield aesthetically but I’m not planning on using it alongside my other OH’s. All I have to say is that it better have some nice new class mechanics and trait line to go with it and even then I don’t plan on using it.

To be realistic though, there are only so many 2-handed weps out there that they can’t give each prof a new 2 handed weapon each expansion. Someone’s going to draw the short end of the stick and tbh I don’t mind it too much.

We’ll crush the other profs and their shiny new weapons with or without our shield!

Well it’s more for the fact that I am100% sure nearly all the classes will bring something else to new build, necro will go GS for sure, engi has range kits so melee hammer could be awesome, guardian LB instead of that slow scepter but the mesmer will stay with the meta and run that slow hitting sword with the long cooldown oh burst. At least I don’t know if we got pistol or mace or dager main hand we could have a second kit on us instead of just taking an offhand on second weapon kit with no main hand.

This is just to add my 2 cents on what we “know” for the expansion concerning mesmer off hand shield. What really bugs me is that most classes will get a 2h weapon which adds a full 5 set of skills, ranger gets staff, guardian gets longbow, engi gets hammer, necro gets great sword etc…

We as mesmer get a shield with 2 skills which will not change the boring s/x pve meta, I would have preferred to at least get a main hand weapon which could at least go as a second set because our off hand focus and sword are already perfect. A rifle could have been awesome also since our range options are kind of bad… I feel like mesmer gets the short end of the stick even if we still have more to discover on the expansion.

What do you guys think?

This is the most awesome look I could come up with !

I can’t stand this anymore… my game has crashed each time I left a party today been reloading my game all day, come on Anet…

One thing that nobody mentioned is how bad sword is for stacking, both your evade skills #2 and #3 will throw you out of the stack and become useless… Also I find sword skill 2 so broken that half the time when you jump back on the mob you end up going over it and not even hitting. The animations on sword are so unreliable that this point alone makes me go to GS instead.

Stacking and standing still in a corner is 2 different things which don’t have anything to do one with the other, in any case, I guess that without me recording a video of it only those with the same issue will understand.

Let me try one last attempt at it, let’s say you do a 5 man stack in a corner and you have the boss coming at the stack, it’s not normal that I am the only one getting hit and the others can go take a kitten and come back and not have lost even1/4 of their hp.

You have to understand the difference between “I don’t know how to play and wtf is dodging” and “I can’t stay alive because I have 6 mobs running after only me”.

I don’t know, it could be that my character has a bug and it fell on my engi or maybe mobs just find my silvari I very attractive and they are trying to kitten him.

Rozbuska.5263:

Sins.4782:

Rozbuska.5263:

There are some bosses what you can counter like you say but other what you simply cant like that instant Alpha tooth attack in CoE 1 or trash bandits in CM what hits you for 50% and then you die on 25 stacks of bleed befor you can even use turret. Another good example are devourers from that first burrow in CoF 2 where you stack behind that pillar. No matter how many you dodge or block they jumpung on you whole time while left rest of the team untouched like almost every time. I agree there are bosses with clear mecahnic but most of them you simply cant counter by mechanics no matter how good you are

Alpha’s earth attack is dodgeable. If you’re not fast enough to recognize the animation, you’ll have to predict the attack, which usually isn’t all that hard. If you’re still having trouble, run 6/6/0/2/0 with invigorating speed and infused precision.

The cutpurses in CM usually use their 12-bleed death blossom when they reach you or soon after, dodge/block it, then blind the rest of their attacks and kill. If you’re facing riflemen or bombers, start off with Toss Elixir U, focus down any bomber(s), and blind/CC any riflemen that outlast your wall.

For the devourers in CoF, chain blinds, and if you’re fast, precast toss elixir u and switch back to your regular skills before you enter combat to deal with the ranged ones. If you’re still having trouble, consider crating immediately.

Dude.. I know how to counter that and if I will need vigor I will take it. That was just example where is engi clearly target more often then he should. You guys dont understand one thing. We dont die there. We dont complain about dying because thats not a case.. We talking here about clear bug in game where engineers are focused without reason.

Exactly, I am not comlaining that engi is squishy compared to other classes or that the class is bad to stay alive, I am only saying that for some reason for ME and Rozbuska for some reason it feels like we are doing dungeons and content alone because the mobs jump ONLY on us and NOBODY ELSE. There is no question of survival, only the simple fact that I can stand 100 feet away from everybody and not attack and the mob will still run after me. The damage when I play my engi is not shared on the team it’s focused on me and no amount of healing or dodges can save you from a whole dungeon running after you.

I play a Silvari btw if that changes anything.

Rezzet.3614:

i run dungeons fractals world bosses just fine as my engineer

so yeah it seems its a L2P issue from your side

i usually run Static discharge builds
with rifle turret wrench and elixir U or whatever i feel is better depending on dungeon or whatever .

if you want a dungeon immortal build go full clerics with healing bombs and backpack regen sigil of life and saffron ice cream i think it was

That’s the weird part of it it’s not a L2P issue because it doesn’t seem to happen to all the engi players, I don’t know if it’s dependent on race or anything else.

Please don’t assume that just because you don’t get this problem and you are having a great time you are any better at playing the class, I’ve had my engi since day 1 and know the class inside out. It’s not like I can counter the game mechanics if every single enemy wants to kill me and nobody else on the team. I am sure I could stay at the beginning of the dungeon and the last boss would find a way to run all the way back to kill me, it’s that bad.

Rozbuska.5263:

gengaluf.1729:

I main engineer, playing him all the time in dungeons. My opinion to this;
As someone allready mentioned, if you feel like you die to much, dont go full zerk. I dont know how you play, and what skills you use, but im sure that the class offers more than enough ways to negate damage, reduce damage, fill endurance, clear condis, break stuns, heal yourself etc.
I remember that when i switched from tankier gear to full zerk i felt extremely fragile too. Bit it really is just a matter of time until you get used to it.

Dying is not a problem (I mean we never die in zerk) at all its about focus where mobs clearly have some strange behavior when they meet engi

Exctly, please read before posting, it’s not the gear factor because even if I go full soldier or knight if you get focused you are still paper, like stated above it seems to be a weird game mechanic/bug that causes engi to gain aggro from nothing.

Kraljevo.2801:

Full berserker is not for you, then. If you can’t handle it then DO NOT use it. Simple as that.

Get some soldier or knight pieces until you are confident enough. Or use toolkit for the extra block.

I have been playing this game since beta I know my classes and armors from inside out, it’s not a L2P issue, it is literally the fact that I gain aggro even if I don’t hit stuff and I am not able to lose it even if I run across the room…

Any other class I have geared full zerk I can sip a coffee and read the newspaper while I watch my char auto attack but the engi is something else when you have the whole dungeon stop and heat seek your kitten for no reason. I mean come on even in a stack I am the one who gets the punches while the other members of the group don’t even take one hit or barely an aoe attack.

SE is the worse, I can stay near the chest at the last boss and after someone pulls her down the stairs she comes running after me and I am at the other end of the room…

I just cam back from a 5 months break to my engi, my most favorite class of all time but this is my second thread on a big problem I have with it. I get focused ALL the time what ever dungeon I do, is it because I do to much dps??? I can’t handle this any more I go down on each and every single stack and I have 0 added toughness with no shield. I spend more time trying to stay alive on a stack while any other class gets 0 aggro…. I don’t know what to do anymore other than quitting the class….

Had this problem before my break and still have it now…

Rising Dusk.2408:

Even if you play the Necromancer perfectly, it still underperforms compared to every other class when played equally perfectly. That’s the problem, and why people sigh at seeing Necros in PvE.

Not true, I have nearly every class at level 80 and geared and I can tell you that played well it is not the lowest damage or utility class in the game, I only think people always assume “oh it’s a necro, he must be running conditions in PVE”…

What is this “utility” everybody is speaking about, 95% of the dungeon runs I do is people using bad skills and doing what ever they want. As long as you are geared full zerk, know how to press 1 and learn to dodge, you can finish a dungeon with your eyes closed.

What people don’t understand with the necro is that you don’t bring utility to the team, you bring utility to the mobs by weakening them so much you can cut trough them with a butter knife plus regen for the whole team with a focus.

Necro is far from useless, we have a bad reputation because of people who play it under it<s capacity, exactly like a ranger…

I have proven what I just said for the multiple times that I saved my whole party during fractals and dungeons. If you play your class right there is no under powered profession, only bad players. Just go zerk with the right skills for the right moment and you will do fine on any class.

I think they will get Jesus powers.

I went back to playing WoW, does that say enough ?

This thread is taking epic proportions in the wrong direction, this game needs an expansion and let’s leave it at that.

Leaving this game is the most hardcore thing I have done since Beta.

You can have your own opinion, I am telling this exactly as it happened and I have nothing to gain by lying because I am quitting this game any ways.

Hello Anet, I will be posting this one last thread to tell you what I think about my battle with your support.

My girlfriends account got hacked like plenty others as we can see on your forum, there is clearly a security breach somewhere because I don’t think it could be anything else due to the fact of so many posts on this issue in so little time. I have fought with your support for the past week and the last email I got if I can do quick resume said " we don’t care and we won’t do anything about your issue, thank you and goodbye". The first time she got banned was when she auctioned for a precursor on the black lion trading panel and the person who sold her the item got it by illegal methods so in the end she had the item in her inventory and she is the one who got the ban. On top of that they rolled back her account to remove the item and she ended up being the faulty one,

Now that her account is banned for real (like many others in the past 3 weeks) Anet doesn’t want to roll back the account because support are saying that she already got a rollback (which wasn’t her fault may I remind you). I do not like the way support answered back to our issue, with that much lack of respect we got I don’t even know how she did not to blow a fuse and start being mean with your support.

Now, she refuses to play this game she invested so much on and she refuses to play without all her gear and gold, I am quitting the game also because of the lack of help we received and I can’t say I am happy about it because I love the game and I didn’t mind putting more money into your gem store but with all this it’s a no go.

You can blame it all you want on her lack of security measure on her PC but her GW2 email is used for nothing else other than for logging into this game, not even to receive emails. She used a password so hard even she can’t remember it and has to write it down on something and that password is used nowhere else. I don’t know what you expect more than that from a casual computer user but I think she tried hard enough to protect her account.

Now if you care or not is up to you but, we refuse to even click on the game icon to open it if it ends like this.

In any case I am tired of this stupid and pointless debate, the only thing that bugs me is what Persica and me stated a couple of posts back, being secretive and all mysterious over the future of your friggin game is not the way you should run your buisiness. Let your players know what is coming for them hell every mmo I played at least talked about upcoming things. I never said I didn’t love this game or that I didn’t support Anet in any way, the only thing I at least deserve after 2 years is to know if I am waiting for something in a very close future or if I can play something else because it won’t be before a couple of years.

Let me put something on the table here, if non permanent content is content and if people play that content it is considered as content then someone like me who has kitten to do other than play 24/7 and missed half the LS means I didn’t get half of the new content?

Well kitten me, I may not be the brightest bulb of the bunch but even I can see that you can’t consider LS as content…

lordkrall.7241:

Daxxter.8920:

What is content for you? Please don’t put LS in the same basket as the word massive content. It’s funny you mention massive content because I am still runing the same dungeons I have been doing the past 2 years, there are no new zones to discover and level a character trough, fractals hasn’t changed much, am I not playing the same game?

Massive content is not a wardrobe update and bug fixes, massive content must be as massive as the game itself, the way they used to do it back in the original GW. Guess I will be going back under that rock of mine you mentionned.

Content is content even if it is no longer available. And there are quite a bit of permanent stuff added as well.
Such as a couple of JPs, Fractals, more Fractals, Southsun Cove, Guild Missions. Edge of the Mists.

GW1 had very few content updates. Most of them were actually stand-alone games, rather than just simple updates, so not really a fair comparison, but if you really want to compare I would say that we have gotten about as much stuff as Factions and Nightfall added.

And you know why I don’t consider non permanent content as content, because if like me you work crazy shifts and you have a life and take vacations and when you come back you missed 3/4 of the “content” can you still consider it as massive content? Sorry mate but GW2 is far and ages back in terms of content compared to GW. You know the thing is I don’t mind waiting if you at least tell me I’m not waiting for nothing, I’m not asking Anet to write me a text about what will be produced for the next 12 years of the game, I just want to know that they are working on some sort of expansion and thats about all I need to know to be happy and go on with my life.

Thank you for all the responses, I will try to apply all the information I have on this thread, I really appreciate the effort.

I put her account info on the ticket don’t worry, I have to do it for her because she is not good in english. In any case it should’t matther who opens the tkt with Anet, her account info is all there and still no response 1 month later.

Forgot to mention, I didn’t even get a response back with a ticket number…

I waited 1 week between each ticket…

I opened 3 tickets with Anet for the same issue because they never responded to me, my girlfriends account got hacked and it still is by the way, she lost everything and Anet simply don’t give a rats kitten about it. How many tickets do I have to open before you guys actually do something about it, do I really have to get angry and start involving my rights as a customer and getting involved in extreme procedures before you guys actually do something. I am remaining polite for now but this is in no case making me laugh……

Reading the phrase “have some patience” is arguably the funniest thing you can read on this forum, I think 2 years is patience enough to let people complain on this without getting told to “have patience”. Now instead of saying “have some patience” you could do something more productive like I don’t know find a cure for cancer or go build schools in Africa perhaps.

Sarcasm apart, it’s not the fact that people can’t wait that brings these kind of threads on the forum, it’s the fact that we have absolutely no indications from Anet 2 years later that anything is coming and that silence and secretive approach is making people angry. I can put 100$ on the table and say that if anet would just say anything like we are working on an expansion or anything as minimal as it can be announcing something other that a kittenty LS would make people stop crying about it.