Guild Wars 2

ProDecius.2609:

There has never been anything worse then a nomad thief, people will stay in enemy keeps indefinitely with this build and not even 50 people can kill him. Its honestly as if thief is allowed to choose an admin build and just float around the map as an invincible kitten perma taping waypoints. When I was tied with NSP being on FC at the time, I once saw a thief do this in blue eb keep for more then 24 hours. There was nothing anyone could do. I seriously loathe the thief class and this build is by far the worst. Honestly though I hate every thief, it’s the worst implemented class I have ever seen in an mmo game. It’s always been anti fun even since the beginning. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXcRknfEzfY&t=315s) This old video for example, thief gets to reset 30 + times after getting out played at each engagement but still being able to stealth and try again as much as he likes with no consequence. As far as I care, this thief LOST 29 1v1s in a row and his class is kittening cheating.

Attack while players do not notice you, immediately stealth and disengage if the victim player fights back. This core design of the class both mitigates the amount of time that players are actually interacting with each other (diminishing the pvp experience) but also makes what should be a squishy assassin class, capable of what essentially is the highest amount of invul uptime in the game (dodge spam) or indefinite stealth.

I hate this class more then any collection of english words could express in all honestly, imo anyone who plays thief isn’t playing video games to have fun, they are playing to be troll and see a “you win” screen.

total exception to the thief players who /bow at 1vs1 spots, you guys are my homies and don’t play like total kittenes.

I got a nomad set for my thief for when I wanna troll perma evade ^^

sauceDinho.1085:

Is this build still viable?

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVn0MBFmiFOBmOB8PhFYCTLBEA2Neph4QbYuDeCXhA-TlCEABAcIAWU9mLVR4hjAATK/2SJYb6Dm4EAQ++DE8AAIEwqtA-w

This is the one that Terissimo uses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saSCzUS_hHI

This was basically the build I was running except my accessories and rings were zerk/valk. Dps test for staff though came out higher with marauder. Staff however is more consistent dps compared to dp burst, but I think you’ll still be hitting harder with auto on marauder.

Sly.9518:

DeNdReTiC.3481:

Sly.9518:

DeNdReTiC.3481:

Sly.9518:

Normally Direct damage Thieves run a mix of Marauder and Zerker, which provides overall better stats, the increased Vitality is huge when you have no Toughness you can easily be hit for 10-15k on single Attacks from multiple classes. And with Marauder you have significantly more crit chance so on average you will be doing more damage hands down.

So with Marauder you have more vitality and more damage.

This build will provide overall better reliability with on average more damage and more health.

It’s only -114 power, +82 vitality, + 27.05 crit chance, – 14% crit damage. And if you run Sigil of Leeching you can recoup quite a bit more health from it than you would from You Valk build, which would increase your damage as well.

And if you factor in food and utilities this increases the efficacy of Marauder even more

I really like this build and read somewhere that 65% with signet is optimal which comes in handy for pve too. I’ve been playing a lot of staff d/p and am realizing that consistent crits on staff are more important.

It’s similar to builds I run In WvW and in most content it’s a good all around build, that can be used with multiple weapons, there are other effective gear setups as well, I just prefer this for the versatility it provides, I normally run more Berserker pieces in it but that’s my personal preference.

It’s a great build (just dps tested myself) and I’m looking forward to completing a few more ascended pieces for it. Thanks a lot ^^.

No problem any time, I am currently going to test a Build using Marauder/Zerker Vampirism Runes, Sigil of Blood, Sigil of Draining and the 66% chance lifesteal on crit with 70 Power food.

Would be interested to hear about it, feel free to msg me on forums or post here for others to see if you’d like

Sly.9518:

DeNdReTiC.3481:

Sly.9518:

Normally Direct damage Thieves run a mix of Marauder and Zerker, which provides overall better stats, the increased Vitality is huge when you have no Toughness you can easily be hit for 10-15k on single Attacks from multiple classes. And with Marauder you have significantly more crit chance so on average you will be doing more damage hands down.

So with Marauder you have more vitality and more damage.

This build will provide overall better reliability with on average more damage and more health.

It’s only -114 power, +82 vitality, + 27.05 crit chance, – 14% crit damage. And if you run Sigil of Leeching you can recoup quite a bit more health from it than you would from You Valk build, which would increase your damage as well.

And if you factor in food and utilities this increases the efficacy of Marauder even more

I really like this build and read somewhere that 65% with signet is optimal which comes in handy for pve too. I’ve been playing a lot of staff d/p and am realizing that consistent crits on staff are more important.

It’s similar to builds I run In WvW and in most content it’s a good all around build, that can be used with multiple weapons, there are other effective gear setups as well, I just prefer this for the versatility it provides, I normally run more Berserker pieces in it but that’s my personal preference.

It’s a great build (just dps tested myself) and I’m looking forward to completing a few more ascended pieces for it. Thanks a lot ^^.

Sly.9518:

Normally Direct damage Thieves run a mix of Marauder and Zerker, which provides overall better stats, the increased Vitality is huge when you have no Toughness you can easily be hit for 10-15k on single Attacks from multiple classes. And with Marauder you have significantly more crit chance so on average you will be doing more damage hands down.

So with Marauder you have more vitality and more damage.

This build will provide overall better reliability with on average more damage and more health.

It’s only -114 power, +82 vitality, + 27.05 crit chance, – 14% crit damage. And if you run Sigil of Leeching you can recoup quite a bit more health from it than you would from You Valk build, which would increase your damage as well.

And if you factor in food and utilities this increases the efficacy of Marauder even more

I really like this build and read somewhere that 65% with signet is optimal which comes in handy for pve too. I’ve been playing a lot of staff d/p and am realizing that consistent crits on staff are more important.

Friend told me that marauders is the way to go now (I stopped playing for awhile), but wanted to get some extra opinions because I still don’t understand how it’s better than a mix of valk armor and zerk trinkets/weapons. Although I do know you’re getting more stats with marauders, the power/crit dmg loss seems like a lot. I guess what my main question in this is also whether or not it’s worth it to lose power to gain precision since both valk and zerk are mainstat power giving you the most possible. I’m getting 59% crit chance after steal which seems like enough, but hoping some people could hit me with some math. I also didn’t include food buffs in the build editor just to make something quick

My current build-
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAoan8lCFOhlOBGmCkmiFYCbOEWCXhaJgAQGwLNcGaDA-TlhSwAS2fIq6Pz0DMRpXIlgAUGAA-w

Full Marauder stats (I’m sure some things are swapped, but haven’t played with it)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAoan8lCFOhlOBGmCkmiFYCTLBEAyAzhwS4K0LNcGaDA-TlBXABPrEEg9HkV9HR1DIsSPdVGAA-w

Valk/Zerk
2519 Power
1387 Vitality (15515)
1731 Crit Chance (38%, 58% after steal with fury)
1038 Crit Dmg (219%)

Marauder:
2317 Power
1618 Vitality (17285)
2322 Crit Chance (67%, 87% after steal with fury)
718 Crit Dmg (198%)

Marauder Is:
-202 Power
+1700 HP
+29% Crit Chance
-21% Crit Dmg

Edit: If you have a build recommendation would appreciate a link

Looking to play with decent players. Chrono, Thief dps, PS Warrior.

I’ve just recently come back to the game after a year and half break and wanted to get into some GvG which I haven’t experienced. Although I lack experience, I’m a quick learner and have spent most of my time in pvp and duel arenas on thief. I can play any type of thief along with the meta builds for guard and mes. Would appreciate a testing period if asked to join so I can gauge the groups skill level along with my own in comparison, tyvm.

rifle thief is laziness on anets part to not want to create a third skill for all the other weapons which is really sad. Make a 1h weapon for thief so we can get some diversity from dp kitten

I’m not bragging about how my server picks are t1 because I hate t1 wvw since I prefer roaming and it’s just a major zergfest. When I first bought gw2 I chose black gate SOLELY because I liked the name and boom! #1 in wvw! Then at another point to finish my legendary (because I forgot to get the poi’s in wvw) I switched to JQ just to get them and then pow! They took #1 spot. After reading on the forums about how great roaming is on t2 about a year ago I picked Yaks Bend. Log in today, bam! #1! Pay for my server transfer?

Legendary Champion Haruhi Hagiwara.
Descendant of the great Kaido Hagiwara 250 years past.
Thief.
Assassin.

:>

happy I don’t have to wait for my hom rewards, decided not to get HoT and play some of the better mmos out there lol

feline grace got nerfed so thought it was best to find a new game. Only play styles being promoted in pvp are crutch builds. I’d repeat some of the great ideas said on these forums on how to make thief better, promoting skill based play, but that would be a waste of time since nothing will actually change lol.

Edit: to those who are posting ideas, don’t waste your time just find a better game. There’s a lot more out there.

glad people are speaking up for the loss of sd, the only TRUE form of thief play style in my opinion. It goes so well with a real thief players mentality of taking no advantages, and focusing on mechanics. We’ll miss you and thanks for speaking up, but the devs won’t listen.

Just linked my account recently and have been looking forward to getting the skins. Unfortunately it’s been like this for awhile and I really really am getting impatient. I know theres a lot for anet to sort out in terms of the titles/ap and it’s not a #1 priority at the moment, but I’d like to know a potential date when this will be back up. Would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

oh hey lettuce xD

after seeing new build available I went to download it. Now when I open it, it will show that it’s downloading the patch, but will frequently stop (it’s also downloading at a pretty low kb/sec around 40ish). When it stops it just sits at 0kb/sec and does nothing. Help?

lol. Guess it’s time to go back to league of legends, seeya. btw stop trying to be esports, 0 attention to pvp community and it’s a joke.

Currently r80 and main thief although I play every class as well. Feel free to msg in game, thanks.

When I try to start the game, the usual screen shows up where it shows downloading progress, however it remains at 0kb 0kb/sec without giving the option to log in or anything. Help?

Edit: And a second after I post this it starts downloading after waiting like 15 minutes -.-

Zacchary.6183:

FLiP.7680:

Zacchary.6183:

Seeing everyone take the stealth side makes me a little depressed. I would like to see more thieves excelling without stealth.

Why? What is the point to be a thief and do not use Stealth?
Because ppl says that’s OP?
Why do you care about those whiners, if they’re just incompetents who can’t see that there is other methods to counter it, or just leveling up a thief and play with him instead
(that would be my choice)

I main a thief. I am depressed because my people are not enlightened and im lonely as kitten.

i feel like your just saying this to feel original in someway when its really not. ofcourse stealth can be considered “op” but a thinking person would realize to compensate for our low natural defenses (a squishy melee) our abilities lie in evasion. Its easily countered with aoe. If you wanna just talk about pve thief sure u can play that without stealth have fun plz dont bring that into these kind of discussions though as its pretty meaningless since your not even a thief at that point. You signed up to be a “thief” a character who uses the shadows to his advantage. Anyway back to the original post, In my opinion d/p is a very solid choice for people starting out with lots of surviveability (mistakes can be made). In wvw people tend to run… A LOT, and so with your kit you have infinite chase potential without much need for positioning. However, d/d thief is what i’ve come to see as a true thiefs kit in terms of skill and damage and hope to master myself. Its strength is the ability to permanently stealth within multiple enemies without heavy reliance on initiative(about to get nerfed for dp) with tons of burst. I think both weapon sets are very strong but most people preffer d/p because d/d takes a lot more skill

pro tip. play a warrior.