Guild Wars 2

I can’t exactly grasp what I am feeling and why but GW2 feels extremely shallow to me.

Ryou.2398:

Carighan.6758:

DiogoSilva.7089:

We’re talking about a game with little to no difficulty in the open world. We’re talking about a game where most skills are useless, clumsy or balanced for pvp, which makes them feel underwhelming and unsatisfying to use in PvE. We’re talking about a game that still has repetitive grinds just as much as any other MMO, just with cosmetics instead of more powerful items. We’re talking about a game that forces you to go into jumping puzzles to complete map achievements, and then had a kitten bad game engine that puts invisible barriers and invisible ground everywhere you jump into.

I can go on, but GW2 isn’t exactly the champion of “fun” games.

Thank you. Independent of the thread, this summed up the issues of GW2 quite succinctly.

Show me another mmorpg with such unique things to do outside of crafting and combat? These things are not that bad, yes the jump puzzles sometimes are a bit much but beyond that it is not as flawed as people make it out to be, they have fixed it over time and made it better.

Guildwars 2 has great activities. The world is amazing, the puzzles, everything. The problem IMO is the reward for the activities. There is no thrill. Everything is linear. You know you can do X activity and get Y reward. There is (almost) no OMG I JUST GOT Z REWARD INSTEAD OF Y REWARD. Y reward most often is a currency you farm for 10 years so you can upgrade the color and shape of your shirt.

DirtyDan.4759:

Are you SERIOUSLY complaining that little monsters are attacking you? Have you tried… killing them?

Haha lol =D

I want more faces and more hairstyles! All the faces are too handsome and I like to make a character that looks the same as me and I AM UGLY

Leon de Damasco.8105:

Not for you, Dindin. Not for you. Not at least in one way you can understand.

lol =D

RedDeadFred.1256:

Dindin.2378:

Kusa.6438:

It sounds like OP is playing the wrong game…
WoW is that way —-————>

I really dislike your mentality. This is the main mentality of the Guildwars 2 fan boys. It is even worse on Reddit. You seem to think that if someone is attacking what YOU like they should just leave the game, instead of thinking and helping them to make the game also right for them. It isn’t just one person having this feelings, there are many. Hell, I even left the game for 2 years because of this. Those could have been 2 years where I spent money in the gem store and supported the game.

No we won’t leave. I will be vocal about what I dislike and I will stay until I can’t enjoy the game anymore.

You’re fine to do that, but going off your posts on this thread (especially that “needs to be a king” one), I sincerely hope that a lot of the things you’re asking for never happen. It fundamentally goes against a lot of what myself and many other players enjoy about this game. I apologize if that comes across as rude, but for me, it’d be like if Fromsoft released a patch that made all of Dark Souls 3 easier (fundamentally going against something I love about a game).

Glad you’re still enjoying the game, but that you also seem to realize that it doesn’t need yo be the only thing you play.

Thank you for your comment. I totally understand the way you and others feel about the game. I just hope with enough brainpower we can find some kind of compromis that is good for both parties. I am afraid that the Fashion oriented gameplay is too niche. Ofcourse there exist many profitable niches in the world but I am not sure if the niche GW2 attracts is enough to sustain the game far after the coming expansion. Though this is just my speculation and I do not have any data about player base and profitability etc.

Does it have any specific benefits?

Djinn.9245:

Dindin.2378:

I did some more thinking and I think that being equals is not fun. Guild Wars 2 tries to give everybody the same opportunities. This is boring. I remember playing a MMORPG called Cabal Online. I used to farm a spot for hours and hours. Why? Because I knew that spot could drop one of the most powerful weapons in game, that only a handful of people have. Guild Wars 2 lacks the possibility to be more powerful than everybody else. You can be more ’ skilled’ but IMO there is not that much skill involved in playing Guild Wars 2, there is not enough build diversity to facilitate this type of gameplay. This is just some speculation, though. I am just trying to think about WHY this type of gameplay is boring for me and apparently for OP and WHY we want something more.

tl:dr: being equals is not fun, the fun is in being different, there has to be a king and someone who dreams to someday become that king. I think.

There are already many ways of being “different” in GW2. Including getting one of the very rare items, they just don’t make you more powerful than everyone else.

You are absolutely right. I ment power specific items, my bad.

Would be a really cool mastery! Though, maybe some nodes should give even more rewards then rich nodes and should be guarded by really strong monsters.

When I do fractals I come out with dozens of blue and green items that get instantly salvaged. My question is: why do these items exist? Why doesn’t the game directly drop the salvaged items? I never used one of those items, personally.

I did some more thinking and I think that being equals is not fun. Guild Wars 2 tries to give everybody the same opportunities. This is boring. I remember playing a MMORPG called Cabal Online. I used to farm a spot for hours and hours. Why? Because I knew that spot could drop one of the most powerful weapons in game, that only a handful of people have. Guild Wars 2 lacks the possibility to be more powerful than everybody else. You can be more ’ skilled’ but IMO there is not that much skill involved in playing Guild Wars 2, there is not enough build diversity to facilitate this type of gameplay. This is just some speculation, though. I am just trying to think about WHY this type of gameplay is boring for me and apparently for OP and WHY we want something more.

tl:dr: being equals is not fun, the fun is in being different, there has to be a king and someone who dreams to someday become that king. I think.

Love this topic btw. I really think this is the CORE problem with GW2. I also think that this is the CORE problem in why the game is not more popular. My God, what a beautiful game it is. The world, the combat, the music, almost everything…. except the Fashion Designer-ish focus and lack of proper itemization.

I think the mastery system should expand on offering class combat skills. We have too few skills at the moment to use and I would love to grind and grind and grind to have more choice in combat skills. Why do I think this will work? I think combat skills are similar to gear in that they are linked with being powerful and becoming more powerful when acquiring more combat skills. If you want to take this idea to the next level make it possible for us to customize the looks of the combat skills. That is a true Fashion Wars. Customizing the looks of the combat skills, the colors, the moves etc. I don’t want to be a fashion designer I want to be a powerful soldier.

Just an idea though and only my opinion your opinions may vary and I understand that your opinions are just as valid as my opinion.

I totally agree with you and I am on the verge of quitting because of this reason.

All you do in this game is collect crafting mats and lame skins. I don’t understand why skins are the replacement of the more traditional gear grind. Itemization is IMO extremely lacking and there is almost no chance to drop something useful. I am forced in leveling crafting to 500 so I can make weapons that drop leafs on the ground.

Sigh. I guess this game is not for me.

I do not have any of the problems the OP has with HOT. I am having a lot of fun and the challenge is really great and doable IMO. I do not hope they will nerf it because of players like OP.

To expand on my post, progression is not the only thing lacking from the game. There is no rarity. Everything is obtainable and crafting is not the same as in other MMORPG’s. There is no excitement when killing a mob to drop a really unique item. Yes you can drop precursors, but I do not think these are enough. Maybe its tied to the lack of progression. If Legendary Weapons would REALLY be Legendary I would understand. But they are not, everybody is walking around with them. They have mediocre stats and do not make you all that powerful. There is no prestige or status left anymore with having one.

OP, I totally agree with you.

For now I am enjoying the world and I just unlocked the Mastery system what feels like progression to me. Even more meaningful than Gear progression. I hope they expand on this part of the game.

I totally understand you coming from MMORPG’s where being the most powerful was the most important goal. I do think that this is a good goal and that Guild Wars 2 is immensely lacking in this area. Everybody seems to defend the casual nature of the game but the customer is not always right. I think this game would have much more appeal if the progression aspect was much more apparent.

This is just my opinion though but I do think that it is holding the game back.

To add. There is little to look forward to. In other games you always look forward for the next level or levels because you know you will unlock something cool – often skills.

Awesome game – really – but I just can’t stand the lack of progression anymore. What progression? I mean skill progression. We unlock all weapon skills at lower levels and are “stuck” with them till level 80. Traits and skill points are good – but offer no solution.

My feedback would be to open up all weapons to all classes. Most likely that this is already discussed many times. In that case I would like to know what Anets plans are in this area?

I just can’t loggin anymore the skills are so repetitive and there is so little diversification.

kitsuneshoujo.5734:

I bet all you guys laugh when you see animals get run over or when someone abuses an animal. >.>

you should join PETQ

really anet?

Azure Prower.8701:

I’m glad they chose copper, silver and gold nodes. Most useless ones in the game.

i would love to craft gold with gold nodes
silver with silver ores
and copper with copper ores

i agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!

positive:

- pure awesome
- totally addicted

negative:

- hearts are getting repetitive
- feel really sad that crafting is not profitable and therefore i refuse to craft
- feel sad that pvp is utterly dissapointing
- wvwvw feels like a giant orgy – and not the good type
- feeling sad that there is nothing desirable to farm for (this is my main issue with the game). would love to farm for an epic mount to drop, a weapon item that only 200 people in game have, a very rare backpiece etc.

40 gold to expand character tab

Oké, so now some constructive feedback.
Make minis an armour/weapon-ish item and let us upgrade them with stats. Give them slots that we can infuse etc.

Everytime I see a mini as reward for a LS. I refuse doing the LS.
I am sure that more people have this mentality. Please remove minis and let LS be more popular. Why in GODS name would I want a mini princess queen pet LOL.

LOL MINIS. Why would you want one? I can barely see them with the naked eye, sometimes I grab my microscope for funz. Next to that they do nothing substantial they only follow you like a soulless entitity and leave when you die or teleport. LOL, minis are the biggest scam of GW2, they rip so much of your money by selling nothing. Gratz GW2!

respect!

it started really boring… but the last few days it has been a blast!
the quaggan story line was just awesome… #bad ice
then i got to lv 46 and experienced the battle of claw island… that was just EPIC
i wish more of the hearts were like the battle of claw island… just awesome!
further… the zoning of the personal stories (while i understand the technical reasons behind it) is really lame, takes away from the immersion and cheapens the experience…

i look forward to the rest of the personal story line!

no, i would pvp and wvwvw if the maps were accesible via the “open world” and had an influence on the world and pve setting. this could be achieved via pve based rewards attained via pvp but it would not be enough… the pvp and wvwvw minigames should be more attached to the gw2 world… otherwise… fail

pvp in gw2 is like playing an other game. it is not connected to the main world and neither connected to pve. i have the same problem with wvwvw. pvp and wvwvw are just minigames not attached to the “real world”.

the first time i logged in to try pvp and wvwvw was enough to make my conclusion. just not being able to use your pve gear and weapons was enough of a statement for me. if i want to play a competitive pvp game i’ll play a shooter…. no tx gw2…. connect it to the real world or gtfo.

charr took my juuub

Seras.5702:

Ah, you want those weapon skills to be available without summong the weapons. I’m assuming that if that were possible Ele would be too OP. Those are pretty sweet weps at times and being able to have them without a time/useage limit and swap attunements would be OP.

Exactly! But then accessible for every class by making them drops

Oow… but those are only skinns or do they give the same skills as the elementalist skills that summon these weapons?

I really like these weapons and I would really want to use them like normal weapons and not just like skill casts. It would be cool if they would be permanent and obtainable as a drop. What does the community think of this idea?

hehehe spyro would be win

ok- ill make an exception for spyro

I don’t want a new dragon, dragons are so cliché and overdone! Give us something else as an enemy, like the skypirates or something different than a lame non-personal dinosaur….

JustTrogdor.7892:

60% JustTrogdor.7892 1141 Tarnished Coast

I’m what many around here call a hardcore player. I can only log in during off hours because I am constantly spammed with party requests

Your an achiever, you achieve

MrRuin.9740:

I’ve never really thought of them being a currency. TBH, I’d rather they never be.
It’d be neat though if they unlocked certain specialty weapon/armor skins though.
At 2500, you get access to tier 1, 5000, tier 2 and so on.

Why not? I don’t see the problem, they are earned and accessible to everybody.

I agree with you in the part you state that te core of the game revolts around skins, that are or could be sold in the gem-store. This is very smart because it won’t create a “pay-to-win-upheaval”… very smart of anet.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

They are supposed to be turned into rewards, something like laurels, at some time in the future. When..of if, actually?…no one knows, for sure.

Would be nice!

Thanks was a honest question with a little bit of preliminary sarcasm because I suspected that…

Where can I spend them?

1 dragon coffin is not rewarding enough. Who thinks te same?

yes I 2 was wondering why there are no mounts in game while the world is pretty huge

Indeed if they restrict it to pve ic no problems… and yes it would increase gem sales because I love the costumes but I would be a lunatic if I bought one that can only be used in towns lol.

What is the reasoning behind it?

the cool thing about sylvari is that they are a new race to Tyria and ideal for people that did not play GW 1 because they give you a fresh introduction to the world not yet influenced by politics of the history of the other races

elves…. just as lame and boring as dragons LOL

love the sylvari <3

same problem hardly see anyone playing around me, I remember something about overflow servers, maybe we are in one?