Guild Wars 2

Zintrothen.1056:

Silv.9207:

That’s a team based game and we can’t make a team to play with. That’s the reason of every sPvP problem.

Force players to do teams to enter ranked and they will do teams to do ranked, balancing the game easy and fast.

As long as it’s strictly team vs team. It was solos vs team at one point and that was even worse than we currently have. I’ve always said that there should be solo players as one queue and then 2-4 as another queue and then 5v5 only as a third. 5 player teams never fight 4+1 player teams, but that queue has the best rewards because the queues will likely be longer and the games harder because you’re going against organized teams. If a team of 4 or two teams of 2 players queue up, then the most suitable player from SoloQ is put onto that team, and that is the only exception where a SoloQ player would be put into a more organized game . 4+1 vs 3+2 should be fairly even overall. If at all possible, the matchmaking algorithm should try to prevent these kind of games though, especially a 2+2+1 vs 4+1 game. Only when there are simply not enough players online should games like those be possible. And don’t kitten anyone by saying that 2+2+1 vs 4+1 would be fair when the +1 on the double duo team has a higher MMR than the +1 on the other team. That person will either do nothing useful or just carry the whole team. Nothing fair about that.

This is the most logical and well structured PvP post I ever read since I play this game. Hopefully the developer act sensible soon…

Another troll post…such a disgrace

I had sold around 30 Mystic Coins but didnt receive any value in return. Few were sold and I got the value but for around 30 I didnt receive anything. Please return the Coins or the corresponding value for the same. I had also sent an ingame email but didnt receive any response.

Warm Regards

Sunny

Last season in English Premier League, Leicester City won against all odds and proved if a bunch of underrated players play as a “team” then anything is possible. A team game needs to have teams! Individual skills of course matters but if team games are made solo then Basketball, Football, Cricket or any other sport having teams should be played solo like Tennis, Badminton etc!

Why have team games then at all? If not, then please don’t destroy a team game.

Yes make it sure to adhere to the request of the solo players that don’t pitch teams against random solo queers as well. Pitch teams against teams and randoms against randoms.

Not sure why Anet cant do this…

Please don’t destroy the game by removing teamQ. This will destroy the concept of people forming guilds, getting into teams, becoming friends and playing together. MMOs should encourage team formation and bringing people together. PvP is a team game, please don’t destroy it by removing teams from ranked.

If you need to have both, then have separate Qs for solo/duo and teams or different leagues for both..

^ people just dont understand this and so does so called Anet PvP Devs. The PvP is doomed beyond repair with teamQ being taken off now

^ exactly this is needed. PvP Devs just implement two separate leagues for solo/duoQ ers and full premade Quers and everyone will be happy

Still no answer from clueless Devs……sigh

No reply from the Devs….they just want people to argue and seems clueless as to write what…

Best troll thread with the most epic replies ever here Certainly had me laughing after going through so many other useless threads

Exciton.8942:

Eagelseye.6312:

Exciton.8942:

Jskiirawr.2473:

Its a team based game not a solo/duo game, either get more friends and pt up or stop qqong about “I’m solo blah blah , I lost blah blah” yeah I run in premades but we don’t use comms of any sorts cause we already know what to do, if this does get implemented you think the ques will be any better?

Edit, spelling, kitten auto correct, when auto correct, corrects stuff that doesn’t need it

What you are essentially saying here is ‘please quit if you don’t have people to queue together with’. This is probably the fastest the way to make sure the game mode die.

You need to eliminate as many excuses of system failing as possible for a game mode that is designed to be competitive.

If you allow premade playing against solo/duo queuers, players will never be able to move forward and the scene will never grow.

Can a football team have random players who want to play solo participating in a world tournament? If that can happen then football is same as lawn tennis where Solo or Duo players play.

Yes Anet Development team just needs to understand and create different game modes, so players who want to play solo lawn tennis game mode and teams who wish to play a more competitive prestigious “team” game mode of football as a “team” can do as per their choice and expertise.

How can you compare this game’s pvp to football?

If we have as many pvp players as football players, then I am also gonna support full team queue instead of solo/duo.

The current problem is that we don’t have teams and we don’t even have enough players. The sole goal of changing should be encouraging players to join pvp and compete.

If you allow premades to come into the mix in a dynamic queue, then solo players will feel frustrated because of that and will not keep playing.

Why are you missing the basic point? Let solo players play their SoloQ game in a separate league and let us team players play our own!! Anet can easily do this by bringing different leagues, it is as simple as that…..in WoW there is 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 Rated Arena with more prestige associated with 3v3 and 5v5 system but there is still 2v2 where people like you play. At the same time there are Rated Battleground with totally different system and rewards in 10v10. All co-exist and players choose accordingly as they wish to play….why can’t this happen here!?!?!?

See Ranked tournament is a team game and not a solo game. It is as simple as that, please STOP putting random logic in favor or only SoloQ.

There are games which are played solo like Tennis, and there are games which are played as a team like Basketball or Football. Lets not mix this. Some people like Tennis and others like Basketball or Football. Please dont mix and miss my actual point.

We cannot say that the world should just have Tennis or just have Basketball or Football. Let both exist side by side.

Those who want to go for a solo random fest can go and do whatever they want and let us team players be there and enjoy our team game. If you dont want to face a premade then play in ur own SoloQ or 2v2 or 3v3 game modes and let 5v5 or more be a separate league altogether please!!

Not sure why Anet don’t understand this and not sure why you solo players dont understand this….is it that difficult to understand and accept?

^+10000 This post is just exactly what the PvP Devs should be reading and acting upon

It is not about the question if there are soloQers more or players interested to play in a team more.

God, people please understand this that Tennis players and Football team cant be playing the same tournament!!!

Anet PvP development team if you have just some simplest of common sense please create Solo, 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 modes and all these arguments will meet their decisive end tbh.

Exciton.8942:

Jskiirawr.2473:

Its a team based game not a solo/duo game, either get more friends and pt up or stop qqong about “I’m solo blah blah , I lost blah blah” yeah I run in premades but we don’t use comms of any sorts cause we already know what to do, if this does get implemented you think the ques will be any better?

Edit, spelling, kitten auto correct, when auto correct, corrects stuff that doesn’t need it

What you are essentially saying here is ‘please quit if you don’t have people to queue together with’. This is probably the fastest the way to make sure the game mode die.

You need to eliminate as many excuses of system failing as possible for a game mode that is designed to be competitive.

If you allow premade playing against solo/duo queuers, players will never be able to move forward and the scene will never grow.

Can a football team have random players who want to play solo participating in a world tournament? If that can happen then football is same as lawn tennis where Solo or Duo players play.

Yes Anet Development team just needs to understand and create different game modes, so players who want to play solo lawn tennis game mode and teams who wish to play a more competitive prestigious “team” game mode of football as a “team” can do as per their choice and expertise.

+1000 to what Ashamir.9574 wrote here

Josh and other PvP developers, all these problems and different opinion of people will be simply taken care of when you prepare and implement Solo, 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 game modes. Different ranking system and prestige value in ascending order from Solo to Premade modes.

Also if you can implement PvP specific separate rewards for which we dont need to grind PvE things, that should be it.

Period!

Another thing that baffles me when I read people writing that personal skill is reflected via soloQ and not in a premade!! How is that logical from any sense?

I will form a premade with friends who are on the same skill set for PvP and play PvE with those who are better in that version of game etc. 5 player premade vs 5 player premade both using voice communication is the ideal setup for a Ranked PvP system!!

People will coordinate and compete at the best way possible and a player would retain his/her position in team if he/she is skilled enough for the same. This is how it should be actually.

Infact SoloQ for testing your individual skills should be limited to HotJoin and Unranked

So reading some of the posts here saying the premades are meant to stomp solo queers is as delusional as it can be!

Ranked Arena is a team sport and needs to be played as a team. So it should NOT have soloQ. There should only be premades. That will not only improve the concept of guild, making more friends, people partying up with similarly skilled players and eventually live up to the true meaning of MMO as such.

Those people who love soloQ and dont wish to play with others are actually not suitable for MMO concept. They should just rather stick to Single person shooting pc games.

messiah.1908:

what about the problem i had yesterday
in my team we had 4 mesmer versus guardian mesmer ranger engi and thief
why my team had 4 mesmer
why the game dont distribute the classes equally

Such things won’t happen if people will play a team game as a team and enter as a premade. PvP is NOT a solo fest!

I fail to understand why there should be a choice between solo/duo queue vs team queue?

Ranked games is a team game and should be played as a team. Therefore, Ranked games should be a compulsory full premade game. People will team up with players whom they know match their skill range and are comfortable playing with as such. It will improve more Guild interactions and people won’t find themselves in situations where some random player would opt to do things out of his own without caring about the team!

If Solo/Duo queue is to be implemented, then it should be a separate league altogether. Let people who wish to play with randoms play in their and let team players have their normal game. This way you will be able to segregate and satisfy both set of players.

If WoW can have 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 Arena system and 10v10 Rated Battlegrounds, all following different rankings, then GW2 too can have the same, after all it is a better game overall.

Why the name of this game is Guild Wars2? There is no competition between Guilds! There is hardly any PvP guild in this game! People just play alone or sometimes with a couple of friends whom they meet by chance in a game which goes well, but that’s it. Where are PvP guilds and competition between them as such?

It is really had to distinguish true posts from trolls.

Btw, the PvP development team is trying to do something at least like enabling Q outside HotM. Hopefully they will bring more changes in the right direction.

If any player says that PvP here is not good, then they should post another game where the same is better than this. That would be helpful.

I agree that GW2 sadly now seems a PvE game coz to gain the PvP wings (The Ascension), a PvPer has to grind boring PvE mats!! That is just so horrible. There are no PvP specific rewards in the game. But unfortunately there is no MMO where PvP has good value. Previously there was in WoW, but then the game went bad. Hopefully Anet will bring something for PvPers as well

See few years ago I used to play World of Warcraft and the Rated Battlegrounds were 10v10, while Arena modes were 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5. In no game mode it was 1v1 as PvP is a team game rather solo game.

We can’t keep on saying that a good player base won’t play the game if soloQ is removed coz they don’t want to play in a team. This is a very bad argument coz PvP is a team game and needs to be played as a team only.

Therefore, even if Anet makes a system where premades will meet premades and soloQers will meet soloQers, the latter will keep on experiencing games where people won’t coordinate and players will play as they want rather than what team needs, thus the horror of pathetic games continue, eventually failing the very concept of a team based game mode.

Therefore, instead of asking for anything else, let us all request Anet to make Ranked system 5v5 premade only, Unranked both solo and premade and bring other modes of 2v2 and 3v3 and by the concept of soloQers 1v1 (although thats dueling rather than a game mode) and finally remove PvE reward tracks from Ranked games.

If Anet does this, everything will get sorted out eventually.

This map is just fantastic

Reaper Alim.4176:

I mean why on earth would a competitive solo queuer or loner would want to play this game if he/she is just getting kittenters for team mates that he or she can not carry match after match with scores like 125 – 501 like 19 matches or so in row, when we can simply go play a actually competitive sPvP game competitively as solo queuer?

ANet’s PvP team has full responsibility in the down fall of GW2’s once great sPvP game mode. I will never ever play another game that this team is apart of, simple as that.

PvP is a team game and not a solo game. Stop blaming ANet for this!! Blame the soloQuers like yourself who actually ruin the very concept of PvP. It is a team game and ranked games should be played in premade teams rather soloQ where every person has no idea of others and want to just do what he/she wants with no communication etc.
Stop trolling and get real please

PvP in any MMO is good when you play in a premade with fixed set of players who know each others game and are good with rotations and communicating over voice-communication tools. The problem arises when people start playing a team game SOLO and get paired up with randoms and all hell breaks!

It is a team game and if played as a team then PvP would be just very much fun be in GW2 or any other game as such.

I get dc once per Tarir multiloot event run and then the game runs smooth again. What happens is that I either lose time to get loot or miss out on the event rewards.

This crash never happens in any other game mode. Only once during the Tarir ML event. I have updated the game client but that didnt solve the situation. Please help.

I have the precursor and would complete the PvP achie start of next season. So its a relief that I can complete the achievement laters as well

I seek advice in completing this achie. I am 10/11 in Tier4 and should be able to complete the same early next season. However I have not much knowledge about PvE and found out that there are several PvE items that I require to complete the same.

My question is, do I need to craft the wing before the end of the season and if I am not able to gather the items and craft the wing before the end of S4, will I lose the opportunity to get the achievement? Or can I get the achievement even when the season is over once I gather the ingredients?

Additionally, if someone can advise how to go about the ingredients? Being a PvPer I dont have much gold either but am trying to gather as much as possible via Tarir ML at present. Any other way for it?

Regards
Dr. Sunny

Josh Davis.6015:

Hey folks,

It’s been a while since we’ve commented on leagues, so here’s a brief update.

There’s definitely room for improvement in the league system, and it’s safe to say that it’s the team’s highest priority now that we’ve signed off on everything going in for the July release. It’s still a bit early to talk about specifics, but I do think we can talk about some of the goals we have for the changes:

• Improve match quality
• Make divisions more reflective of player skill
• Make leagues feel more rewarding after you’ve placed in your appropriate division

We’re still determining the scope of the project, but I do want to be clear that it’s unlikely that these changes will be in for S4. Once we get a bit further in the dev process I’ll see if I can give an update on our thoughts/direction.

-Grouch

Hi Josh;

Thanks for the comment. As a regular PvPer I wish to request that if the developers are trying to make PvPers feel rewarded and at the same time keep the PvE customers satisfied, they may kindly try to separate the two things. Removing PvE Dungeon reward track in Ranked system would be the first step towards this direction with the same being available only in Unranked games.

Also if they can separate soloQers in 1v1 mode of a system where premades will face premades and have higher rewards while soloQers will face soloQers and have similar rewards and difficulties of progress. This will eventually help towards most of the issues that we read in different threads. People who would opt for soloQ wont face premades and also won’t come and complain of losing streaks playing with randoms. On the other hand premades facing premades will sort themselves for tougher competition and be placed in divisions suitable to their skill sets.

PS: I need to cross two divisions to finish the PvP achievement and I look forward to it. However I hope that after S4 the league system has more to offer to PvPers in true sense.

See when we think that if soloQ is removed and all entering game need to be in premades, then there would be long Qtimes is wrong. Long Qtimes are now coz there are few people doing this. If all are doing this then the Qtime would eventually be less.

Why also worry about solo players would quit PvP. If they do then so be it coz PvP is a team game and not a “solo devil may cry fest”. WoW got only premade system in Ranked Battlegrounds of 10v10 and it works well. Same goes for 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 arena for them the last being the same as ours here.

Therefore the only way to preserve PvP is via the following:

1. Premade only in Ranked games
2. PvP specific skins/titles via Ranked games at different levels
3. SoloQ and PvE reward tracks only in Unranked games with both being removed from Ranked games
4. Bringing 2v2, 3v3 and if possible 10v10 modes apart from the current 5v5 mode with different PvP specific rewards and titles for all

Just remove soloQ and implement that Ranked games needs to be a premade system and you neither would see such situation nor these threads

One of the best trolling threads ever here. Those people who want soloQ in Ranked games and want Premades not to be allowed in Ranked games are the biggest trolls ever and it is you people because of whom the PvP is getting ruined.

When you enter solo in a Ranked game, no matter how good you are, you can not control other four randoms. Competitive gameplay is a team game and not a “Solo I dont care about others” fest!

Of course the PvP developers need to improve a few things like taking the PvE loot system out of equation, putting soloQ and PvE reward track in Unranked, bringing 3v3 arena system or 10v10 Rated battleground with Flag carrying play other than node capture etc. But it is the SoloQ and PvE reward track that first needs to be put off from Ranked system and the pip system changed with Ranking title tree etc which will bring the competitive game to justice.

People who want a solo fest can keep enjoying Unranked and stop trolling others by asking for removal of premades from Ranked.

This is the best thread ever speaking the true facts. PvP is a team game and not a solo levelling quest grinding game play! Therefore, there should not be any soloQ in Ranked games but only premade entries.

When people soloQ most of the time there is lack of communication and a single player would like to do what he/she thinks is the best rather what the team wants. This is not meant for Ranked system. A competitive system is a team format and that is how it needs to be played.

Now when people say what about players who duoQ or go in teams of three of four? They will quit? Why they should quit? They should actually find other mates as per their skill level and ambitions and form a team. When players will do it, all that would happen is, Q time would be superfast, and games would be far more interesting rather one sided blowouts. Of course you won’t be facing situations where you would find nubs rushing to double DH in mid and dying instantly or just fighting on the road rather point…if you understand what I mean…

However it would only be successful, if Anet removes all PvE kitten from Ranked system. PvP rewards should be PvP based only with more titles for highest ranks/leagues/divisions climbed etc.

If Anet actually does this, then competitive game mode will just get rejuvenated and interesting for true PvPers.

Anet needs to do just one thing, make premade a compulsion for Ranked games and take PvE loot track off from Ranked games. This will simply solve everything, as only those players who are interested in true PvP will play it as a team (as it needs to be played) and players with similar skills sets will group up, besides PvE players will avoid it and would be limited to soloQ in Unranked games.

What are the requirements to be part of your guild?

Ranked is a team format and should be played in premades. Those who don’t want to face premades, should better go and play Unranked or PvE and farm loots. For the sake of a team game mode, stop creating such stupid threads.

I am a regular PvPer and am looking for a regular PvP guild, which is creating premades and using communication software like TS, Discord etc. I am a member of couple of PvP guilds but they seem to have a single team with founders and others are left to pug. It would be great if there is a PvP guild/team with better interaction, involvement and friendly atmosphere amongst players.

No response yet!

Anet should do the opposite. They should “BAN” soloQ from Ranked games and make it mandatory for players to enter games as premades. PvP is a team game and should be played as a team. No SoloQ will ensure the same. Also if they remove PvE loot from Ranked games, it will take away a lot of bogus PvE players from it as well.

All these problems would get resolved, if Anet like Blizzard in World of Warcraft would design PvP as 2v2, 3v3, 5v5 arenas and 10v10 Rated battleground format. Here in Ranked games Anet should and must do entry like a mandatory 5v5 premade. This way you will enter with a team where people know each other and players would be saved from the horror of playing with random people who just do not know what they are doing!

I am in the same boat of horror. I reached Ruby T5 last season playing solo as could not find a proper team. This season I am slacking in T3 of Sapphire and just grinding games to have 3 wins in a row as such. The only way up is when you play in a good team or have lucky win streaks.

If Anet really cares about proper PvP, they will make mandatory in Ranked games that people can only enter as premade 5 player team as such.

Bumping this thread

Application submitted

So this build http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_Condition_Shatter where we can use Sc/Sw instead of Staff, using Chaos line in place of Inspiration and Scavenging Rune is okay for PvP?

drcraig.9403:

Eagelseye.6312:

MiGFiD.1760:

Why. Why is this even a thing. A group of two, fine. A group of three, kind of pushing it. But a whole group? Seriously? What the hell? That’s hardly fair. I’m not sure what the devs were thinking. I can understand guild missions and such, but honestly having a whole team of guild members is just ridiculous.

Is there a way that Anet could separate these things? Like putting premade teams in a separate queue so we don’t waste my time on that kind of bullkitten? Or limiting the amount of people in sPvP premade teams into no more than two or three?

I hope Anet does something about this. I like the game and all, and yes I know that in this game pvp will never will be balanced (ever), but at least make an effort to show that there is something to be done to keep the imbalances in check.

Also, it doesn’t help that some people didn’t buy HoT. You take it up the kitten unwillingly if you didn’t buy the new expansion.

This is the exact opposite that should happen. PvP is a “TEAM GAME” not a solo PvE crap where you can roam and don’t care about others. It is a team game and should be played in premades and not solo! So instead of creating stupid threads asking Anet to not allow premades, you should rather not play solo or just stick to unranked or PvE things.

@eagelseye “TEAM GAME”…“play in premade”. Do yourself a favor and get a clue please. Do you have any idea how long your queue times you be without solo players? After that think about playing the same premades over and over again. CLUELESS!!

Why clueless, when there would only be premade teams the Q time will be nothing actually. It is long now, because there are very less full premades and the system try to match them against each other as such. PvP is a team game and it needs to be played in a team. A solo player unless superskilled, wont understand what others are thinking to do, like I have seen players not even interacting on team chat and two people running to take close, one suddenly going far and hey mid-lost without a fight, or none going for close and boom you dont have any node and they have triple cap etc.

Ranked games should only have five player full team entry.

So what is more viable for 1v1 situations Sc/T and what? GS or Staff or Sw/Sw or Sw/Sh

Also now after the patch, should the Chrono line be given up?

See if you are talking about Unranked PvP it makes sense. However at present teams are practising for the upcoming season. Therefore, you will eventually land up against these premades.

I had lived and worked in Austria/Germany for four years so got an elementary understanding of German. However PvP got no language, come close, go far or mid lost etc. is all that you need, isnt it