I’d say dire, but I’d also say that condi thief’s not really doable.
with sinisters, you take advantage of the power on the daredevil, but even with all those evades, it’ll only take a couple of slip ups, a few moments without endurance, and you’ll be dead.
with dire, you’ll be tankier, but won’t do much damage – thief just can’t dump the amount of Damaging Conditions it needs to.
if you’re looking for something in between though, maybe try carrion? it give CD, power and vitality, so it’s a bit of damage and a bit of tankiness.
Curious, but why is condi thief not viable?
Cuz every tiger lily that posts here is a top teir super thief…. Every word is accepted doctrine… Like duh, everyone knows this
Helpful
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That was code language for complete viability…. Just takes a flexible playstyle, and plenty of cover conditions…. Knowing how to stay alive without stealth is a skill most folks never care to proficient themselves with, unfortunately, hence the dated dogma
I’d say dire, but I’d also say that condi thief’s not really doable.
with sinisters, you take advantage of the power on the daredevil, but even with all those evades, it’ll only take a couple of slip ups, a few moments without endurance, and you’ll be dead.
with dire, you’ll be tankier, but won’t do much damage – thief just can’t dump the amount of Damaging Conditions it needs to.
if you’re looking for something in between though, maybe try carrion? it give CD, power and vitality, so it’s a bit of damage and a bit of tankiness.
Curious, but why is condi thief not viable?
Cuz every tiger lily that posts here is a top teir super thief…. Every word is accepted doctrine… Like duh, everyone knows this
Been fiddling with a similar build as I lvl….didn’t read the links but I dig yer synopsis…. Gave me a few tweak ideas… Thanks man
Honestly, I wouldn’t even bother asking the folks that frequent here, and just go ahead with your build….
Most the opinions I’ve read here are from copy-paste disco era meta’s from the first month of this game… The paradigm shifters rarely, if ever, post here…. And rightly so
I truely feel sorry for all those poor souls seduced into the gaming industry with visions of painting their passion to the world, only to find themselves puppets to figure happy maestro’s who care little for investing in anyones canvas but their own. Such a sick industry this has become
Well, you won anet….you got my money…the best pvp I’ve seen yet
Goodbye and goodluck with your game
[ZN] will be our last 15v15 fight, we will only be accepting 20v20’s after [ZN] gvg
Welcome to last weeks news
Until anet figures out that WvW truely is the bread and butter of this game, it will continue to die
Another game tried the whole “our story is awesome” approach….not too long ago
Too much competition in this industry to make such critical errors in resource management
Makes me wonder if their entire business strategy wasn’t to just cash out on the 6 month window of fame to begin with…. Depositing the cash, and maintaining the game off the bank interest
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http://www.twitch.tv/vauxwell/c/2782299
Agg vs EP gvg from their stream. Congrats EP!
Luv watching ele’s put nado on their bar for the first time…soo many missed opportunities….Agg’s JV team?
Grats EP
Until money gets involved, youz all GvG’s competition is just pastel scaled guppies
fact
Some of us Dragonbranders like the fighting the bigger servers . Can’t complain about a target-rich environment!
When coverage is out of your hands, win with what you got when you can .
If u aintz at the windmill, u don’t matter… Haven’t u heard?
Sigh. Just sigh.
Agreed
Unless I’m behind on everything.. what is BP doing in SoR?
I’m surprised they didn’t end up on SoS, being the lil puppy dogs that they are
Your wannabe Bruce lee quote’s goin on 6yrs old already dude… Just an FYI
WTB DB/TC/SOS match-up
That is all.
OMG. So Much This. ^^^
Can’t wait to face Agg again. You guys don’t run or map hop when facing real competition.
Cept on reset
. However it seems like all or at least most the guild fights I’m involved in utilizes the hammer train style: stability, earthshakers you know that whole deal
can’t teach sheep to shepherd…..they all too worried about being laughed at to be innovative
Some roaming this week. I like how in the last fight a pro [Yumm] guy doesn’t even engage and just revives people, then runs off without doing anything else.
Why ya gotta pour mayonnaise all over ma boy Oz with some pillowfighting mermaids vid? That’s what that metrosexual-backyard-“dubsteppin”-bowel care is for….
Stick with your kind pls….k thx
We can’t bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell ‘em stories that don’t go anywhere – like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you’d say.
Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn’t have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones…
Finally….a wall of text worth reading
If “Gw1 gvg is true gvg” then why is it that no one wants to do it like that in this game? Because this way is more fun, in gear that we earn, want, and builds that we want with sizes we want.
How sustainable to do u really think deathmatchs in an arena the size of a barbie doll closet are?
It’s cool for a month or two….Then what?
Even if they do implement it, it wont be anything like what your doing now…
GL on your movement, tho
why would they implement an arena the size of graveyard in foe fire?
lol when we ask for gvg arena, we mean south camp windmill area sized arena.
thanks for your ignorance tho
Where you can showcase your amazing versatility and coordination/communication?
pls…
thanks for your ignorance tho
If “Gw1 gvg is true gvg” then why is it that no one wants to do it like that in this game? Because this way is more fun, in gear that we earn, want, and builds that we want with sizes we want.
How sustainable to do u really think deathmatchs in an arena the size of a barbie doll closet are?
It’s cool for a month or two….Then what?
Even if they do implement it, it wont be anything like what your doing now…
GL on your movement, tho
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You haven’t probably because they are a non-factor :/
Until u get your own server exclusive boob-smash finisher, ummmm less flappin
Welcome back, Mag…..
I’m diggin your new transfer….Heard she roams a lot
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[NS] member perspective video is up from last night’s most intense GvG that we’ve ever had. Please like and subscribe if you enjoy the video! (:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPxP08CXvOsThanks again [Agg] for the best fights we’ve ever had and the honor to fight one of the best guilds of North America. Looking forward on the next one!
On the side note, please support the GvG scene and register in http://gw2gvg.com/ if your guild is interested in setting up GvG’s with other guilds from opposing servers. This is the easiest way to do it!
Nice fight, NS…Good Pressure
Thanks for keeping your kool in all your endeavors when reppin the Dragon
Mags Mickey Mouse thread is only a couple clicks away…. Plenty attention over there for ya… If your that starved, again
I guess you havent been reading i been over there all weekend
I guess your right
Mags Mickey Mouse thread is only a couple clicks away…. Plenty attention over there for ya… If your that starved, again
As I read this thread.. I wonder.. what happened to the DB I first met back when I was on TC? Since when did you get so many forum warriors?
Bah, to you guys a thread is only good if there’s people so mad they genuinely want to fling feces at others. Sorry but I don’t want to wade through pages of trolling to find real reading material.
Don’t lie to yourself. DB sends a shatter mes, BS thief, and a S/D ele to kill me and they still manage to fail. Please explain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtqMOAdqF-0
Awwww….how cute….I remember running a similar build…..in december….lol
Thieves…. The next generation of awesome
Still waiting to see an average skill leveled roamer from DB. So far only glimpsed key boarded turners and players who instantly run to spawn or a tower before even engaging.
Guess I’m gonna have to learn how to roam….tired of these posts
Must hurt that they left you behind then
“Earth shaker….water field…..earth shaker….water field…..earth shaker….water field” real brilliance
They impress the learners only…..just cuz most people are backpedal friendly
I suggest you do your homework. Better yet, fight them. Then let’s talk.
I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself
Ego parade already out in force? Hope yall took the rest of our garbage monkeys with ya when you left
Um, it’s Agg. These guys can walk the talk.
Must hurt that they left you behind then
“Earth shaker….water field…..earth shaker….water field…..earth shaker….water field” real brilliance
They impress the learners only…..just cuz most people are backpedal friendly
sent GvG challenges to all guilds on Db
unfortunately only [qT] and [NS] are willing to GvG at the moment, hope the rest of you plan to fight us soon
Ego parade already out in force? Hope yall took the rest of our garbage monkeys with ya when you left
I think this is a compliment to how tight you stack and coordination. I dont know if he knows it, but there is a solid compliment in there.
Stacking and being able to stack are two different things, fluffbrain….So ummm…it’s not a compliment…Keep trying Dr. Suess
Also, on a side note that commander managed to insult every player on the map “if you’re a pug then you’re useless, just free rally for 20 enemies” if you want respect then earn it. Lord high chairman? seriously?
Probably some of the residual taint that some of the elitist sightseeing guilds brought to the server before they bailed…..DB will heal brother
Thanks for bringing these issues up, Tree….I’ve noticed similar problems in the past
Also, try to remember that many commanders on DB are new to the boots, and learning as they go….Especially if your staying up late from your timeslot….DB seems to be an unofficial guinea-pig server for new commanders, even when they claim to have moved here from top tier brackets…..They’re gonna need patience and reinforcement, just like your own leaders did, when they first started
I’m glad you brought this up in public….don’t listen to these muffins trying to suggest using the private forums….only a handful of fuzz-buddies use that garbage low-traffic site…..Best not to try n sweep things under the rug….Let your feelings fly! More people will see it here
So, how was that a recruitment ad?
Ummm… Cuz inside every cheesey puff open-field elitist with a GoPro glam-cam, is a scrub doctor supply runnin, wall repairin, yak cowboy zergbaby, waitin to sprout
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Nice recruitment ad, TSym… How comfy are those tour bus seats you rode to T1?
Edit: I musta missed the videos of tower/camp defense, ninja’ing, and yak escort scruffin… Maybe vol 12?
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the more time you open field the more you help your server? lol
like the buddha of the homeless park
I don’t see what’s the problem. If a person excels at one aspect at WvW, shouldn’t he be concentrating on that aspect? Or do you want the cream of your fighting force running supplies?
if only everyone was too awesome to run supplies
You’re beyond saving. I make a video encouraging small-mans to help the server, and all you could find to say is this. More and more, I lose the will to even care slightly about my server because of all the unnappreciation for the effort groups are doing.
It seems like all they want these days is people to zerg around like sheep, or otherwise deemed trolls.
maybe if you spent less time trying to be noticed, and more time contributing, yall wouldn’t be underappreciated?
I mean serious: “buy time till the taco can flank….this is what happens when you over-extend….all tank teams can’t do much dps”….. and my personal favorite: “better safe than sorry when playing small group”….
Chuck E. Cheese is my hero too
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the more time you open field the more you help your server? lol
like the buddha of the homeless park
I don’t see what’s the problem. If a person excels at one aspect at WvW, shouldn’t he be concentrating on that aspect? Or do you want the cream of your fighting force running supplies?
if only everyone was too awesome to run supplies
the more time you open field the more you help your server? lol
like the buddha of the homeless park
Here’s to hoping CD doesn’t show their backs as bad as DB did last week.
Back to the kiddy pool where you belong….lol
Assuming that the whole DB server is full of “cowards” because you haven’t encounter “roamers” or people that would 1v1 you, is pretty absurd and disrespectful. Something to keep in mind when making such accusation, you’re fighting a T2 server that has a larger coverage than yours, and chances are we will always outnumber you in the field, and days like this will happen: http://i.imgur.com/Fie3isV.jpg. I honestly find it pretty unfair that you guys got such match-up against us, but we’ll see how Anet adjusts the system in the future.
I roam most of the time when I’m not doing GvG with my guild [NS], and I know a lot of good players from Db that roam and love to 1v1 just as much as I do. The other day I was dueling some people from Mag behind the mills (Swag guild I believe?) and there was this shatter Mesmer who beat 2 people in front of me, so I decided to duel him after. I won (didn’t finish him) and next thing I know, I had like 5 people jumping me and the whole thing turned into a zerg fight a couple of minutes later. Was pretty ridiculous.
But aside from all that, I just wanted to say thank you [PYRO] for the GvG! We had a lot of fun, and I hope to see you guys in the field again! Wish ya luck in your future GvG’s.
Here’s the video from last night GvG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vih3m8ukRdACheers.
Would you say your server should have more or less cowards than FA or SoS?
Because everyone I’ve asked says pretty much every server has noticeably better roamers who actually fight without siege.
We’re not saying you have more total cowards than a server like TC (even though I suspect this might also be true), we’re saying you have a disproportionately high amount of cowards for your server pop.
BTW doesn’t NS ever feel a bit alone in the sea of crap that is DB?
Hope that clears things up.
Yer name sounds scary dude….Maybe word is out on DB about how lethal your foamin killsquad is…..
I think you need more feelings, and more screenshots…..Make the world believe!
Fortunately I managed to find a few people who do like to do 1 vs 1 and are actually good. So I guess it’s not all of DB. some of you actually do like challenging fights and don’t want to just run mindlessly with the zerg and spam 1 against small groups of people.
By the way, whoever that engineer was from DB from the guild TG that I fought with my warrior was freaking amazing. One of the best engineers I’ve ever faced. Long freaking fight, but fun.
Wow, toa still hasn’t graduated from his yesteryear thief?
Tell him Michael Jackson called, he wants his glove back
Glad it’s not just me having these experiences with DB. On the rare occasions you can catch a few of them alone, they run to the nearest camp/tower/whatever and wait for their 80 man zerg to show up and save them. I usually roam around alone or with a group of 3 or 4 other people max trying to look for decent fights. We usually run into groups of 10 or so DB people roaming and try to fight them. EVERY SINGLE TIME, they run away from us and try to head to siege or guards and without fail, moments later a huge red blob comes to their rescue and we all get swarmed and then they laugh and dance. Is there anyone on DB who isn’t a total coward and is willing to actually fight without an army, and siege, and guards backing them up? I have yet to find any.
Msg preacher if he’s still around…. Last I saw, him and his krew danced with your dying breed cliche
they probably said that because the rest of the time you spent building arrow carts
might need a few of those to help route them 5 min plagueforms
Here’s a video of a good fight we had the other night, with [PYRO], [ME], and [VR] vs DB and YB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFcvuarcop0
This is the only time we’ve ever posted a video with our comms, so you can hear my lovely voice calling out for water fields and complaining about skill lag.
And here’s the same fight from [ME]’s perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bLanFMY7bM&feature=share&list=UU-3XDOw6ZrMT-zSVYgVj31Q
grymin a bunch of fragmented groups, with only 1 decent standoff…..“Best fights we’ve had in a long time” says one of your girls…..
Just another voipless day on the court for DB….As if anything more is needed
I think DB could stand to use some serious guild and PUG initiatives to improve open field fighting. JQ/BG/SoR showed us some good stuff. And Mag/Ebay have shown us some stuff too. The only other servers within 4 ranks are TC and FA, and I contend they are just as bad as us in the open field, so we have nothing to learn from them.
If Agg is actually considering coming back to DB, even for just a little time, I think it would be really cool if they could help shape that initiative.
Kiss more Agg kitten pls….
Field skirmishing is overrated, and should already be autopiloting by now
Less forums for fighting advice, and more time on the ground, without lipstick, to learn whatever you need to know
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Oh you’re back on Dragonband Eva.
How was the fling with BT?I had a BLAST with BT, but husbandface is getting back into GW and ‘T1’ would be a bit too intense to get him interested in WvW. I’ll be on whatever server he is, as long as he is playing.
I hear Mag is hiring….Yall should look into it
We wiped them about 5 times open field, 3-4 times at the initial outer breach, and at least 7 or 8 times on inner. So they decided to build about 10 trebs to take down literally every wall and gate before pushing and wiping again a few times. Finally, a few DORP came from another map and we pushed them off.
We still have the keep. Yoloswag.
If only there were more punishing effects from wiping 20 times than flooding your opponent’s inventory with those kitten badges of bankspace.
Sounds like yall wer trying firetruck serious….
Long live the pony league!
DB’s problem is that many are fair-weather, and every guild has them. DB is not going to really move ahead until WvWers accept when they might lose and still stick around. The people I see sticking around the most are some of our major transfer guilds, legacy guilds, with the random pugs thrown in.
Soo clueless dude
We learned some new things against JQ and BG last week. Mostly we learned that our server is mostly fairweathers.
i don’t underastand how you can expect anything else with being the new bandwagon server. it has been the case with every other bandwagon server as soon as the easy wins stop the new people don’t show up anymore. why did you think this wasnt the case with db to make this some sort of suprise?
It’s interesting because DB received all of its transfers when the “easy” wins stopped. Since we moved to T2, we had one week I would consider easy; the rest have all been hard fought, excepting last week when we were soundly trounced.
Do you have another theory for us?
sure i have another theory. you got the transfers in t3 they got you to t2 where you didnt dominate and so they lost interest the same as many other bandwagon servers.
Wrong
Try, some of the new guilds brought the wrong atmosphere with them and chose to sell their own koolaid instead of buy any of ours…. DB never ran that way from what I ever saw…and it isn’t surprising that soo many choose not to support this change in ambiance
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