Guild Wars 2

Hello Anet Team,

I hope someone can answer this, but just recently one of my guild members brought up a good point, currently i have everyone in the guild that is able to invite new members, what I failed to realize was that all those that can invite, can also kick from the guild, now we haven’t come up to that scenerio, and I trust everyone in my guild not to do such a thing, but the reason why we have such a wide open recruitment is because we want to be a solid team for any future adventures you all continue to add. I predicted alot of these updates would require players, and when I first created this guild we were small, but as the months went by we grew. I grew for a reason and that’s to provide more players for the members, and weeding out the inactives and non reppers. I thank you for providing these recent updates to guild functions, as we only do wvw, or spvp, and even open up cathedrals for fun. Now we have guild missions. So kudo’s.

My issue is ranking:

1. Can we separate the ability to invite, and the ability to kick from guild? Is this possible, in most mmo’s this is a separate entity.

2. Will we have more options to provide each ranking, as it stands, I use up all my rank slots, but the difference between some of the ranks for abilities is very little to none.

3. Will there be guild halls in the future? I intend to get one for the guild as soon as possible.

4. Can we make a real solid guild wars alliance, and actually have guilds ally to each other and be able to see the alliance members on the wvw map. Perhaps create an alliance chat that all members of the alliance can see as a given permission/ability. This way we can prevent guild hopping trolls with intent to destroy alliances from chating right away in the chat.

Please let me know,

thank you for a wonderful job,

Hello everyone,

SOS from anvil rock server is proud to say that we finally completed Guild Bounty Mission 3. When the first time we did it after the update, we almost beat the mission on our first attempt, but that Komali guy just wouldn’t die. lol. afterwards we made multiple attempts and failed, it was either a case of we couldn’t find the target or we fought a boss that just wouldn’t go down within the time frame of escaping or mission ending.

It was rather discouraging, as I would consider our guild to be highly organized, voice chat etc.., we have the numbers, and so I assigned everyone to be deligent about opening waypoints in those maps of the different bosses. As the guild leader i did more research, and found out the following:

1. Guilds that activate their guild missions can get the same target. I thought that when guilds activated the mission, each guild would get their own different set of 6 targets. I was wrong.

2. It takes a team to get credit. Again I was wrong. It actually only takes one person in your guild to help kill the boss, in order for the guild to get the kill and taken the boss off your list.

So SOS after multiple failed attempts did the following:

1. We flooded each map with all of our members till we found the boss. Afterwards we left two bodies to stand watch. I would be notified if other guilds were there as well. We would then get everyone there, so they know exactly where the boss was. We did this till we found all the mobs, and those we didn’t find we just took our chances.

2. We broke down into an original team of 10, that would go to each boss as the roaming kill group, those that were guarding bosses that wasn’t our target would gather towards a target and become the 2nd killing team.

3. We had some luck into play, because once i activated the mission, skallywag was one of our target, which I already had with my 10 man group, so we dispatched him easily, another target was started by another guild, so the two guarding it, helped kill it and we got the credit for it. By this time, we had 4 targets, which 2 was already being brought down by my team and my 2nd roaming group. Once my team finished with our mob, we went to iron marshes to look for 1411, the one mob we couldn’t find and rolled the dice on. The 2nd group killed the 3rd boss, and now we had about 5 mins left to find and kill 1411. I ran towards the area I know he runs through, and sure enough 1411 was there. I called it in vent, and linked the nearest waypoint. We killed 1411 in less than 3 mins completing tier 3.

I will say that the mission is difficult, but it’s worth it. My guild felt a sense of accomplishment completing this mission that has had us pulling our hair out, and causing our aging process to multiply by 10.

I suggest to keep trying, don’t let the mission deter you from doing it, you’ll feel great when you accomplish the mission. Work with other guilds, infact I’m trying to organize this with the smaller guilds, because again, right now, only one member of your guild is needed to get credit for the boss, so working with other guilds may just allow you to complete mission 3.

SOS is having a great time in wvw, good fun fights. My crew appreciate the challenges.

For everyone’s entertainment, attached is Episode 3 of the comic strip line up.

Enjoy,

Great battle this evening DH! Operation Overlook. You guys did great defending, you built alot of siege on that west gate and main gate. SOS had a blast, I logged on and you were trebbing my SM. I couldn’t let that continue. SOS wanted to put u guys on the defensive, and so for the rest of the night, that’s what we did.

Overall good work on both sides of the house. Well fought battle.

Hey fella’s

DH welcome to the tier, glad to see u guys here, definitly a challenge. SOS has been enjoying the fights against you guys. We even met the other SOS guild in your server haha, Syndicate of The Shadows.

good stuff. I created a comic strip for the guild and though I’d share it with the rest of you., hopefully this will encourage BP to come out and play and show their true form.

osif.8673:

Godfather.8217:

@ paxa

I lost respect for a guild because of your idiotic comments, your guilds arrogance is above tolerance. “years of experience” lol, what a joke. For one i wasn’t on the game at all yesterday, so please Jtard, how was I in that 10 man group running around. Next time I’ll screen shot my combat log, and post it, I don’t even post much, and when I did you guys troll.

Keep being your cheezy selves, and your cheap playstyles, “years of experience” lol you guys make me laugh.

I think you have it a little backwards – you’re the one trolling us saying that we use gears. But on the off chance that you actually do believe what you are saying; please do post screenshots of us gearing people. I’d love to see it. Once you understand how much CC a group with hammer warriors/guardians and D/D eles can put out maybe you’ll get better at this game. Making excuses and accusations won’t make you better at a game. Learning the mechanics will. I have a feeling that you are just trolling though. So I’ll say this to you, ol’ chap – nou L2P roflolcopterbad.

@ paxa and your fan boys

I didn’t bother saving the combat log last time, that was my mistake, but i will next time, so i can shut up your entire elitest guild. I didn’t know skills meant knocking people down, stunning them to the point they can’t fight back and killing them on the ground meant you guys had skills.

Maybe I’m looking at pvp differently, but I require no skills that prevents my enemy from using their abilities to fight me, and I still win.

You guys are a joke, probably the biggest joke on your server. I do understand that Paxa must stand for Pathetic players And Xtreme kitten

Hey everyone let’s go copy forum builds and be just as good as Paxa players because of all their years of experience sure pays off against players on the ground that can’t even get up to fight back. WOOT! omg i’m sooo cool, i killed someone that couldn’t even fight me..,

Stay Cheezy PAXA!

osif.8673:

Godfather.8217:

@ paxa

really fella’s, I used to think highly of you all, now after reading your kitten posts, it just dropped your credibility and your skills. All I asked was that you stop using “gears”. It clearly shows it in the combat logs, the dmg and what is used. I wouldn’t bring it up if it wasn’t common, so someone in your little parties is using it. so instead of sitting here insulting me, why don’t you guys learn how to play, instead of relying on forum builds, and actually fight those who can fight back. I guess pvp means fighting things on the ground, easy mode wins, gg.

Your post shows that you are full of it. You would really have respect for a guild that uses gears and it took that guild’s forum posts for you to lose that respect for them? You wouldn’t have respect for a guild using gears in the first place. Making lame excuses and accusations for losing to a lesser manned group is pathetic. L2P.

@ paxa

I lost respect for a guild because of your idiotic comments, your guilds arrogance is above tolerance. “years of experience” lol, what a joke. For one i wasn’t on the game at all yesterday, so please Jtard, how was I in that 10 man group running around. Next time I’ll screen shot my combat log, and post it, I don’t even post much, and when I did you guys troll.

Keep being your cheezy selves, and your cheap playstyles, “years of experience” lol you guys make me laugh.

@ paxa

really fella’s, I used to think highly of you all, now after reading your kitten posts, it just dropped your credibility and your skills. All I asked was that you stop using “gears”. It clearly shows it in the combat logs, the dmg and what is used. I wouldn’t bring it up if it wasn’t common, so someone in your little parties is using it. so instead of sitting here insulting me, why don’t you guys learn how to play, instead of relying on forum builds, and actually fight those who can fight back. I guess pvp means fighting things on the ground, easy mode wins, gg.

Fight fire with fire I say, have ele’s of your own doing the same thing. Infact now, if i start seeing my shots being blocked, I’ll test how often it is blocked and I can determine just about how many ele’s they might have. I’ll build more siege to counter it, and i’ll have my guys mix shots, from cows to rocks, just random. Make them use up their SM.

True story here, defending Hills, and the enemy built several trebs on supply cliff edge, I couldn’t damage them i figured they had at least 6 ele’s stacked blocking the trebs from mine. I finally got off the treb, told my crew to keep firing. I ran and came in from the north entrance of the supply camp, as I figured they were watching the south side closest to hills. I went invisible with all my invis skills i had on my mesmer, and came right up to the edge of the rock all the ele’s was standing on, and pulled them right off the cliff. One shot later from the trebs all their trebs were dead. I was laughing so hard, that made my day.

Npac.3476:

Pestilence.3184:

Kardiamond.6952:

@Evilzara

So much hate.

So much for thinking, please make more free assumption like that.

I’m gonna have to make some corrections here, Not sure how SOS would be a zerg guild, but if I were to have numbers, I break us up into smaller teams, at most one may have 20, as the primary force. The rest will do various things at my bidding evil laugh, anyhow

PAXA…… OMG your sooo annoying why are you Ganking guys from other maps and not trying to put the same effort in to get your server some points???? you have some great players that work well together….

@ Imalog

Dude the only time i SEE you is when you got 20+ guys right behind you its the only real time AR seems to fight….. your like there mommy with the apren strings bro…. its time to cut them loose lol BUT your ZERG machine works untill some one either rolls over you with a bigger ZERG or some one like PAXA SEKZ GOAT etc tear your zerg to pieces with less numbers.

shame bout the hate between AR and BP ive met a few good guys from AR and NS.

Now I know Im nothing but an annoying guild leader but here are my thoughts:

AR and BP are “strong” servers. You guys have large, Zerg oriented guilds such as BURN, GOAT, SOS, and ALS that keep points flowing and flowing. In fact, you guys even seem to have some decent commanders that help keep your “forces” in line as well as on target towards your goal of winning the “match”….and it really is impressive the sheer number of players you guys are able to field.

Us over here on NSP however do not have that. Sure, we have some “Zerg” guilds like Os and TCMM but they don’t even come close to having the shear man power that ALS or SOS boast….and our points suffer for it.

Yet, we do have one strength you guys don’t and that’s the small man….and we have it in spades. Guilds like ENVY, SPLT, SPCA, Tm, and even us, PAXA probably don’t even have 1/3rd of of ALS’s numbers combined, but we have beaten you guys by the thousands. We wade into zergs of 15,20, and 30 and wreck havoc and destruction..with only 4 allies beside us. We laugh in the face seemingly impossible odds and kick the jaws of defeat Until they break. Our guilds stand and fight where not even zergs would and eat commander Doritos for lunch.

But overall you are right. We probably should put our talents towards the good of our “realm”. That being said, it does make me wonder what would happen if we did. What if our small guilds decided we wanted those towers. What if we decided we wanted those keeps. What if all of our small mans decided to hit your zergs together in coordination? Could you beat us? Could you even hold us off? What would happen to your precious points then?

Who knows.

Going to correct ya here, but SOS does not try and zerg around. If by chance I do have a good size on at one time, i will try and break us up into teams, with one team having at most 20 members. It may seem like we are running together at times, but if you watch, we are hitting you from different sides, because each of those small teams are coming from a different position. Otherwise those teams will go do things at my will evil laugh. SOS isn’t playing any favorits, i mean we love you both, and will attack both sides TBH. One day we spent hours in BP, and another we spend time in NSP, it just depends on who will give us the most fun. Yesterday for example we took BP’s garrison, and we knew they will eventually come in a huge zerg, which they did. So we set up position on top of the garrison’s lords room, and boy you should have seen all the dead bodies below lol. It was fun, and eventually though they were able to get up there, but overall we all had a blast. That operation was about 20 of us on vent from what I remember, maybe less. Before that we were in NSP, and took bay, and garrison from you guys, which we ended up having an awesome fun battle right at the destroyed wall you guys were so persistent in breaking through. Good times, and before that we were in BP and held briar for a long time from them, each time of those ops were maybe anywhere from 15 – 25 members, give or take from those logging off and on.

Now these special “groups” of zerg killers. Seriously, paxa, i mean if you guys want to kill things that can’t fight back, more power to you, but don’t think you guys have skills fighting people that are slowly getting up, can’t move, can’t do anything period. Because any noob can do that. The many encounters I have of you recently, i’ve been getting “gear” hits, and for you guys to brag about having such skills, but yet need to use a broken pve gear in wvw, simply to prevent your target from even fighting back for an easy win, just makes me doubt your abilities.

Npac.3476:

@ SoS

Doth ye even lift?!

o.O

SOS just had a blast to celebrate the foot ball game tonight, even had a guild party till AR borderlands seems to have crashed, so my 1 hour party was like 35 mins.

Anyhow enjoy the video! Mooooo!

http://youtu.be/RlUk7DkX6Fo

holy cow,

what’s going on here guys, i post saying that sekz isn’t anything like every other organized guild out there, and your all like comparing sizes.

After those remarks sekz, i guess I can start posting pics of your wipes too eh, maybe it will jog some memories, because obviously you guys forget. We’ve wiped sekz, fam, paxa, goat and the rest of you many times though the fights, and I’m sure we’ve had the same treatment one way or another. Sekz don’t fight unless they outnumber their opponent, so please tell me where the organization comes into the play?.., I mean for goodness sakes, we owned nsp hills with a waypoint yesterday for several hours…, so where was this awesome wonderful organized guild then?.., was it you that lost what 8 trebs to my two?…, and finally nsp takes the hills back as pvd, because we had nobody there to defend. clap, i guess that must be the organization you all talk about.

Seks, we are in nsp all day long, just be there. If we see you we’ll come after you. otherwise stfu.

What’s all this talk about Sekz,

Sekz is just as good as anyone of the other ogranized guilds running around, everyone has their key points. TBH in SoS encouters with them, they are either dead or they are running. It all depends on who gets the suprise on who. We’ve faced multiple groups of same tags this week, and I’m happy for it, means you guys are getting together.

I also see alot of camping done by Sekz in certain locations, ganking anyone they can outnumbered, hell even spawn camping our entrance. I had to call all of sos to regroup at waypoint and kill them on my way out. They thought it was just me, and 3 or 4 of them went out of cloak to gank me, but i’m a mesmer, so i dropped the portal and poof, it wasn’t just me anymore. It was a perfect set up against them. Now it’s a valid strategy, so i’m not complaining.

SoS spent majority of our time yesterday in NSP, and frankly I didn’t want to bother NSP, because I know the real threat is BP, they got the population, and can easily come back, my thinking is if we can take away from them, that’s less points for them to catch back up. But while I was leading an attack on BP, NSP FAM and Paxa decided to hit us from the back, preventing us from focusing on BP, and in my thoughts I’m wondering, why is it that while we are keeping them busy at Bay, is NSP and their numbers not hitting Hills while this is all happening, instead FAM tried to take the supply camp from us, which we wiped, and then FAM and Paxa got together and decided to pick a fight with us. So after that operation I decided to take sos to nsp, and we lead the operation there which ended with a waypoint built at their own hills keep. Our game plan was to make NSP call as much people to their borderlands as possible. I figured since you guys wanted to fight us so badly in bp, then we’ll come to you.

If i were in NSP and I saw a force hitting BP, I would have went after another big prize, and perhaps after capturing it, I would have tried to ninja bay from the team that just broke into the two gates for us.

Your all silly,

anyhow, SOS had our guild event yesterday, karma/xp grind, and both server made it difficult to roam around, good job on that, we kept encountering your zergs against our low level alts.

We finally decided to do some defense training, and parked ourselves at briar in bp. Was alot of epic fights, all servers took part in, Paxa, good job on coming behind bp forces, i had the oppurtunity to video some of the epicness, i’ll post for all servers to watch. I eventually fell asleep though so I don’t know when exactly we lost the tower.

overall it was a great job by all, our alts leveled from defending, and it was fun countering all the trebs.

Hello fella’s,

Just want to say to all of you, this is still a fun match, I know AR is on the chase for 1st place, but win or lose Syndicate of Shadows only wants to keep having fun.

@paxa

There seems to be alot of love and hate for you guys, even among my guild members, we are in disagreement about your play style, and abilities. From my experience in encountering you guys, is everytime I see your thieves and ele’s, it’s ganking smaller parties, but when we come in, you all scatter to the winds. This is usually with numbers to even the odds out btw.

However last night, my small group encountered a large bunch of you in nsp southern supply camp, right on the bridge, you guys did very well countering us, by using mass invis. Great move as the end point was my team wiped, yours was left standing. I didn’t realize the size of your group till it was to late, thank you culling, but overall it was a good attempt by us. So i give you guys props for that. Your group was well prepared compared to mine.

On that note, everyone should just play to have fun, after the wake of transferred bs servers moving up the tiers and making 1 week of wvw boring as hell, you’d think we’d all appreciate such a great match up. SOS has spent alot of time on BP lands, through the weekend, and figured we’d hang out in NSP to share the love. Instead of fighting NSP though we met BP lol go figure. BP thank you for opening bay’s walls and gates for us, fun times.

Fun Video
http://youtu.be/-Lny7ESP07Q

Only a WvW player ends up being divorced, bald, and overweight for their dedication to the server.

Only a WvW player thinks about his next pay check so can get gems for gold and buy new TH exotic gear, and more siege equipment.

Only a WvW player is on the WvW forums while at work posting, “please post the score so i can see!”.

Let’s not confuse consistency with numbers, they keep coming because that’s all they are is numbers, they got a huge population and they can be anywhere, anytime.

fighting kaineng, I only saw zergs after zergs after zergs, you don’t even get a chance to see any tactical skill used at all, just simple bodies thrown your way, and yes they drop seige, but if you have so many bodies out there to protect it, why not right. Anybody can drop tons of siege and start firing when you have bodies to protect it, knowing those you are hitting isn’t going to be able to do anything about it. Organization? no, tactics? no. The one time I got to witness a small group running around, was lead by Jang, and I won’t go there, because i’m done with that.

Kaineng isn’t a good server anymore, perhaps in the past prior to transfers ruining it, maybe have some good older players prior to transfers, but overall it’s been destroyed, it’s currently being hand held to the top, with War Machines organized playstyle, lol yea what ever.

SoS has been having a good time in BP land, you guys keep up the great work defending, we will be there all week long. I’m impressed with the amount of players you guys call out to fight us, I got home this morning from work, didn’t get sleep the afternoon, i ended up with 155 badges.

I’m stuck at work atm, can someone post the score again :P

Thanks.

Thank you rob!!!!!

I’ve been sitting here at work, waiting for either patients to show up or the score to be posted.

Man i wish i was home right now.

Win or lose, this indeed has been a fun match up. Prior to going to work this evening, my guild and I were having a blast in BP borderlands, kudos to the defenders watching the towers, and keeps, you certainly didn’t leave them unguarded. Keep up the good work.

Could someone please post the current scores, I’m stuck at work atm.

Thanks,

Not sure how much that is as a viable strategy, because in my server we kill that guy all the time, I mean it takes 10 players to even get it started, and that’s if they don’t follow him to try and take the tower anyways, but to me that’s 10 less players elsewhere trying to defend against our attacks. So it’s really a waste of time for them to continue trying to start the event over and over again. The event seems to attract alot of randoms which if anything is a badge farm event for a team of 5 defending the tower.

The moment I stepped into the battlefield, I had flash backs of my ex-wife, just like a thief running around, pretending like your not there, when you are. Constantly watching me, stalking me, and then back stab me when the right moment comes. I hate you, I really do.

Now i must go seek counseling,

I for one appreciate this match up, I think this is how WvWvW should be. Some fights are so close that well placed siege equipment can determine victory or defeat. Another aspect I appreciate about this weeks match up, is I know for sure that my guild is fighting against other players, unlike Warmachines bot trains.

I can agree with everyone. These guys are soo good at what they do. So organized they seem almost like robots in action. Especialy this guy Jang, ever fought his group lead by his toon. hold on let me post how they fight, now where is that training video of his.

http://youtu.be/CyBITqVhR9I

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640:

Godfather.8217:

Then I witnessed what he did at hills keep, which My guild owned, and had very well defended. Watch the video, because that’s exactly how his train that followed him moved around. […] But when we closed the gates behind him, and it was him and just his little train, whole different story, he stuck out like a sore thumb.

After seeing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RTa1eLS6FM (WM’s SM video)

And watched your http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBITqVhR9I (Your Bot Stampede)

Please take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afpc_EcohcY (Amazing group march)

I don’t know. It is possible to train people to act precisely to very small detail. Remember, WM is a very heavily PvP/WvW/GvG guild. It’d be no surprise if he actually TRAINED (as in practicing) his member to act that way. After all, if I were him, I’d have my member to act like this as well.

This is not cheap, it’s more like exploit in the system. As I have said on the previous post, An AoE skill can only hit on maximum 5 players at most, so take advantage of that, have tons of people stacking up on one location would mean that the whole group’s HP count as one, and that would be very hard to knock down, at the same time, it is very easy to heal/recover.

So if you want to make your claim seems more convincing, please answer the following questions:

1. are they all the same profession?
2. are they all firing at the same target? (not even one that’s shooting another?)
3. are they skill spamming or just simple auto attack with skill 1?

Don’t just call people that walk in unison as bots, that’s just biased.

I’m telling you, if you guys were there on the end of this display of skill, you’d recognize it, that WM video up there doesn’t show anything of what he did in that hills keep.

1. They aren’t the same profession, I can tell you it was a mix of every supportable class, guardians, and ele’s mainly due to their buffs and protection skills. I can also tell you that it was a stacked group of less than 20, simply because he had at least one mesmer portaling the whole group around like clockwork.

2. Yes, I tested this one out myself. When i saw him running back up, i jumped down off the wall to face him, and as soon as he had me targeted, i suddenly had every condition and every ele aoe hitting me instantly, and again you can mask all this running around in a zerg, because with the aoe hits, every toon around me was being hit as well, and it looks as if each one of those characters are targeting someone different when in reality its just one person.

3. If every toon is programmed that was trailing him in a perfect line just as the one’s you see in the video i posted, I am sure there were skills that ran as soon as the cool down permited, and it’s not difficult to set “auto” for this game, as far as follow, and target assist, but you would need something to do that, since this game doesn’t have an auto follow function.

You weren’t there Stormwolf

and i’m sure if this was the other end you’d feel the same way i do, but of course not, your entire server is being hand held upwards in tiers, so why you even care about investigating this guy.

Hey Jang!,

I think i found you during your leveling days. Is this you leading the pack?

because i swear these guys are moving like the same guys you were leading when you hit my hills keep the other night, ya know the straight line pattern, and everything, the auto stacking, i mean these guys are training real hard, is this the training you kept referring to?

http://youtu.be/CyBITqVhR9I

I enjoyed your video,

funny how those following you in that video wasn’t running in a straight line behind ya, must be real players. Way to fool everyone. Do you have the video of you taking hills in AR last night? ya know the one where you were running around mindlessly taking out siege gear on the walls so that the real players outside can break in without difficulty? let’s show them a video of that so i can explain why I think you were botting, because i swear those characters behind you were running as if they were bots, so prove me wrong. c’mon. Or did you happen to forget to push “record” on your fraps during that moment?

Kraggy.4169:

Godfather.8217:

Lineage II was all about botting, infact you weren’t cool unless you were dual boxing at least

The fact you equate dual-boxing in any MMO with botting shows your views about these things are worthless, you don’t seem to know what ‘bots’ are.

so please mr. expert, tell me the difference? because I’m dying to know.

I’ve been reading alot of threads in both communities, and this is just an idea that came out from reading both sides perspective on each other. Some players like myself who rarely doesn’t do sPvP see it as something pointless, it doesn’t really benefit the server your in, and it has no application to your character in PvE or WvWvW. Unless of course you want to master the arts of close combat between small groups, but WvWvW isn’t really about the small groups, it’s rare and far in between.

sPvP seems to be more about “Me”, the ranking system, the rewards, the gear. Only team aspect of it is your trying to find a solid 8 players to fight along side with that work well with you.

In WvWvW, the server as a whole benefits greatly from bonuses the server recieves for doing well in WvWvW. In sPvP, again it has no application. So the theory is, and I’m sorry if this might have been mentioned in previous threads, but why not impliment the ranking system into WvWvW, treat it as xp, so that when ever it levels, we still gain our skill point. As far as I see every borderland has NPC factions, and we have supply camps.

As it stands, all these places can be taking by one or two players, easy. We can end this, by making all these NPC area’s instanced. Let’s say that each faction/supply camp can have a max of 24 players, 8v8v8. Any 24 players can walk in and once that happens, the battle starts.

Example 1. Supply camps.

As we know when the match resets, supply camps are neutral npc’s, so will the instance as it starts. for a group to control the supply camp, servers would send in up to 8 players into that area, and fight for control of those area’s, now, we have people thinking well what if people spawn camp you outside waiting for you to come out, that case can be prevented with those leaving the instance appearing at their primary waypoint. So what if your spawn camped inside the instance, just like the arena scenerio’s as is, the spawn area for all 3 servers will be high up in a safe area for them to move forward from. Now keep in mind spawn camping will be tough inside the instance, because it is 8v8v8, that means you’ll have to have 4 for each spawn area to cover. Now to safely keep the supply camp, forces will want to leave players in there to guard. When the supply camp is taken/flipped, the lord of that area will still remain to have their buff, and players can continue to upgrade it as is, and the dolyak will continue to appear outside the portal and move on to supply the tower and keeps. But now this gives small guilds and teams to actually fight and control something where outside zerg interference won’t happen, think of this as a SpvpVSpvpVSpvp.

Example 2.

Faction/NPC.

We know that we can take an npc and gain favor, and they will help us by joining our side. We can do the same 8v8v8, and when ever the faction is available we can send in our 8 guys in there to take it, same battle happens, small groups battle it out for control of the npc’s, the winner flips control as the rest will have to waypoint out. Now the two others servers can still send 8 again to try and take the control away, let’s say another faction wins, just as it is now, the faction is now switched, but is cleared, which now we all wait for it to go neutral again for us to retake. Same thing would apply. As soon as another server wins reseting the faction, all players that were involved in the battle will be sent back to their respective waypoints.

Example 3.

Center Island, Weather control.

Now here is where it’s fun, right now it’s really easy, but what if, the only way to get inside this instance was to have complete control of all 3 water nodes, first off. Once inside this instance that group of 8 would fight a boss, sorta like a dungeon boss. The server who controls the center island will have it for a while, then it resets automatically, just like it does now. Meaning the server has to go back and defeat the boss again, or the other servers have to own the 3 water nodes surrounding it as well. Keep in mind that no server can enter that center for complete weather control unless they own the 3 first. This will force a huge battle for the lake, alot more than it is now.

I only mention this because, even as we speak, EB jumping puzzle is in a different zone, but yet it’s WvWvW, why couldn’t we do something along the same lines for our supply camps and factions. I can waypoint out of the eb jumping puzzle straight into a waypoint in any of the WvWvW maps, why couldn’t we implement something like this. You could get rid of the Spvp gear, saving you some time there, you already have gear set in for pve and pvp in WvWvW, the Spvp community will then feel that they are helping their servers by helping with the bonuses to the pve community. As they will also be accomplishing things by actually leveling their characters as they do what they love to do, and that’s Spvp.

StormWolf.7645:

SoS vs. SoS…Godfather man…I will attend your funeral.

Hey if the greeks can beat the entire persian empire with 300, I have full confidence i can beat 900 members with my 30.

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640:

Godfather.8217:

You guys have a 900 man guild SoS i believe, that has been in that server since day 1 am i correct? Now these major guilds transfer in and suddenly your all jumping tiers? Let’s do the connection here.

As the leader of SoS, let me tell you what happened.

1. Timezone coverage.
Sure, SoS is big, we can cover a lot. But most of us are Taiwanese, we have a life, and daily schedule. DR has a good EU timezone coverage that can easily take over all of our land and then be carried over during US prime time. This puts us a bad spot, and makes it almost as if working in WvW is just throwing money into a blackhole with no reward.

2. As Storm said.
We were just unfortunate that we faced DR in tier 8. After Kaineng got their first victory, and was about to go up the tiers, DR got a guild that countered us – PRO. Their coverage rendered our advantage useless. Thus every week is just like Kaineng get a head start, and let DR chase up the score.

3. We are NOT a WvW guild.
Yes, I have stressed this many times, over and over. We are NOT a WvW guild. We do WvW for guild events. Not actually putting it as first priority. In fact, we will be going for Temple of Balth in just 30 min, come join if you want

There can only be one SOS in the world buddy!!!!

Just tell me the time and place, and we’ll meet u grinz

StormWolf.7645:

Godfather.8217:

Stuff

You are right, and I apologize, AR did tremendous against DR…What I saw was NSP giving up for most of the fight. It wasn’t until Meow joined the fight that people finally seemed willing to do anything more than cap a few camps and run away from DR. My favorite moments during that week were when myself and 3-4 others had Dawn’s as the -only- NSP holding on any Map. Which was my effort to prove to the NSP randoms that defense CAN win against Zergs if you just plan it out right. About 1/2 way through the fight NSP did wake up.

Since I am bored at work right now, I’m reading through the other threads, and i just had to laugh at the comment “I don’t know which borderland i’m in, everything is green” comment. Also seems like guilds are transferring out of BP and DR already. Makes me sad <—- sad face.

StormWolf.7645:

jkctmc.8754:

Actually they did. You don’t think ET, HoD, NSP, and others dropped because they all of a sudden got bad at WvW, do you?

Kain got probably 900 transfers just from three guilds, 400+ from one guild alone.

That makes a HUGE difference. But hey, it is what it is, and there is a thread on the first page where the deves have said they’re aware of the issue, and are discussing a fix to transfers that will prevent these issues in the future.

…Which Guild had 400+? Hope you don’t think it’s WM, they have a lotta folks, but not THAT many. I think it was maybe 100 tops?(Which is a lot, but they’re in the night-crew mostly with SOS…where we already had superior coverage.) RE?…Nope…they sure as heck didn’t bring 400+…they DID do a lot of recruiting though. DE?…Nah, they’re a splinter group from SE who did most of their recruiting from the PvEers who wanted to join in the victories. And those were the 3 true Transfers, only ones worth mentioning. Have we had a lot of randoms since then from each Tier we beat? Almost definitely. But please note that Kaineng “Population” is still only at “High”. What we have is a very high percentage of WvW vs. PvE Players.

The true jump-start for Kaineng was that all those people saw DR gone…So all those “New” people who came into WvW to fight DR and got crushed so quit WvW, only for more “New” people to repeat the process several times…all those people could finally play WvW. They aren’t -fully- “Fairweather” Players…they’re mostly people who never had the opportunity to learn and enjoy WvW who are finally doing just that.

As for DR…they were huge in T8 already, did they gain people since T8?…Some almost definitely, but not as many as you seem to think. The difference is we held them off. You could have done so as well at this Tier, but most of your people were dead-set on attacking without having any defense. I was here and watched the fights. This Tier gave up against DR without a real fight. I partially blame the Holiday…because I have been seeing awesome fighting spirit against Kaineng.

I wouldn’t say that NSP and AR gave up the fight, not sure what fights you were watching, but I believe the score ended up being a 100k spread between 1st and 2nd, again, NSP and AR have to sleep sometime, and DR just had better coverage, alot to do with pvd. Same thing here. Now the spread might just be abit more, since you guys can actually field more per map, than DR could in this tier. If i remember correctly they did control practically all of EB majority of the time, but had difficulties in AR borderlands, I recall this well because I had to call out NSP in the threads, wondering why they were also attacking AR while DR had full control of NSP borderlands lol. Then in one day, I logged on and saw NSP crush DR borderlands, was funny. NSP can field a solid group of players on opposite times as AR does, which is entertaining since we flip each others ownership back and forth regularly.

I certainly hope NSP doesn’t revert back into this mode though, since AR and NSP shouldn’t even care about playing for 2nd place. Kain is the real threat here, and i think they deserve all our attention lol.

Littlefeather.8623:

Godfather.8217:

I had an oppurtunity to finally fight Kain’s forces today, prior to going to work. So far I’m not seeing any reason for all this great praise towards Kain’s forces, the only thing I like about fighting them so far is the fact when i monitor these forums, not a single post about “dominating” or bragging is coming from their players. I like that, this wasn’t the case vs BP, or DR when they came running through here after there transfers.

I will say this and this is just my assessment of the situation.

1. I haven’t seen anything new or game changing for the lower tiers from this server, all this hype of you guys gaining t1 guilds and are going to show us new things, hasn’t taken it’s effect, at least not to me. Your all rather predictable, and so far I’ve seen nothing but 10 – 20 man groups running around hitting various places, no small teams so far from what i’ve gathered.

2. I don’t know how EB is like as i’ve stayed away from those areas myself, but what i do notice in the borderlands, you run in zergs, zergs in a good way, sticking together in tight large groups vice tight small groups.

3. I’m looking at the scores, and as my server slowly loses it’s population to sleep, just as NSP faces the same problem, Kain remains to have a rather sizable force. This is a huge advantage. So by all means, Kain, your not winning in “skill”, but clearly in the fact of a larger wvw population compared to us.

4. I’ve mentioned this in the past, but when you have a solid group to defend siege equipment, placing siege in the open is a great strategy, and very intimidating to the least, again though your advantage is you have more players out in the field to defend than the possible attackers that would make an attempt at the placement. Nothing new there.

5. I’m taking this for what it is, it’s another week, being rolled by another over wvw populated server compared to the opponents. Trying to find the tier they belong in.

@storm

I can understand the resentment towards the transferred guilds, perhaps the opinion is different because it was Kain’s server they decided to transfer to, which benefited you guys alot. My question is if Kain was such a great server in WvW, why were you guys down there in the lowest tier for a long time. You guys have a 900 man guild SoS i believe, that has been in that server since day 1 am i correct?, Now these major guilds transfer in and suddenly your all jumping tiers? Let’s do the connection here.

@ Keyba

Should watch how we place siege to defend keeps and such, and I believe i’ve offered working with you for a while now. If you need help placing siege, just ask.

I have been very busy since reset to lead any major operations, but I promise that Kaineng will get my full attention as soon as I’m free.

I admit having numbers relieves a lot of pressure on the field, but at T4, they have numbers too. And yes, a lot of Commanders are predictable paint and roll, but every commander has his or her thing about them too. If I had the numbers I’d roll like Maguuma and have one distraction zerg elsewhere and another hitting the actual target, or keep our own Gorilla squads constant throughout the day. We are rehearsing new ideas and routines with some professions as well, when that time comes we can use. Or myself which I pride on setting up great defense siege, and constantly going over the basic fundamentals of defending an objective. Have you tried to push on EH in NSP BL lateley?

today was fun, thats what I enjoy, I hope yall enjoy it too, to some extent. GN

@ your signature

The fact your guild is RE and your signature saids Darkhaven, and yet your in kain fighting nsp, just goes to show about these transfers, now I could be wrong, but reading your whole message here tells me that you were part of an attack on NSP and you had fun today.

I had an oppurtunity to finally fight Kain’s forces today, prior to going to work. So far I’m not seeing any reason for all this great praise towards Kain’s forces, the only thing I like about fighting them so far is the fact when i monitor these forums, not a single post about “dominating” or bragging is coming from their players. I like that, this wasn’t the case vs BP, or DR when they came running through here after there transfers.

I will say this and this is just my assessment of the situation.

1. I haven’t seen anything new or game changing for the lower tiers from this server, all this hype of you guys gaining t1 guilds and are going to show us new things, hasn’t taken it’s effect, at least not to me. Your all rather predictable, and so far I’ve seen nothing but 10 – 20 man groups running around hitting various places, no small teams so far from what i’ve gathered.

2. I don’t know how EB is like as i’ve stayed away from those areas myself, but what i do notice in the borderlands, you run in zergs, zergs in a good way, sticking together in tight large groups vice tight small groups.

3. I’m looking at the scores, and as my server slowly loses it’s population to sleep, just as NSP faces the same problem, Kain remains to have a rather sizable force. This is a huge advantage. So by all means, Kain, your not winning in “skill”, but clearly in the fact of a larger wvw population compared to us.

4. I’ve mentioned this in the past, but when you have a solid group to defend siege equipment, placing siege in the open is a great strategy, and very intimidating to the least, again though your advantage is you have more players out in the field to defend than the possible attackers that would make an attempt at the placement. Nothing new there.

5. I’m taking this for what it is, it’s another week, being rolled by another over wvw populated server compared to the opponents. Trying to find the tier they belong in.

@storm

I can understand the resentment towards the transferred guilds, perhaps the opinion is different because it was Kain’s server they decided to transfer to, which benefited you guys alot. My question is if Kain was such a great server in WvW, why were you guys down there in the lowest tier for a long time. You guys have a 900 man guild SoS i believe, that has been in that server since day 1 am i correct?, Now these major guilds transfer in and suddenly your all jumping tiers? Let’s do the connection here.

@ Keyba

Should watch how we place siege to defend keeps and such, and I believe i’ve offered working with you for a while now. If you need help placing siege, just ask.

I have been very busy since reset to lead any major operations, but I promise that Kaineng will get my full attention as soon as I’m free.

Just wanted to say, Congrats to NSP for fighting hard to stay in this tier. My guild SOS is preparing for Hurricane Kain to walts in here this week. Aowry, I like ya but my intel saids otherwise on that server, Kain did gain quite abit of guilds, and it’s not just guilds from lower tiers moving up to the winning server, but major tier 1 and 2 guilds moving down. Quite frankly I can’t wait, and neither can my guild. We look forward to fighting all of them. I doubt that they will be using anything new that we haven’t already seen, so I don’t expect much. What I do expect is huge numbers running around everywhere.

@ NSP

Congratulations on remaining again, but please reconsider your strategy this week. As always SOS will go after the biggest threat, and we will be in Kain’s territory through the week. SOS will not be in NSP’s business this week. This week isn’t going to be about points, it’s about destroying these Tier 1 and 2 guilds that couldn’t hack it in their servers. Perhaps it’s the wait times, perhaps they were ignored by the real guilds, I don’t know what it may have been to cause them to leave, but I do know one thing. AR will die fighting till the end.

yes please,

let’s keep it humble, congrats each other etc.., let’s not post domination and calling each other’s servers noobs.

Thank you.

Drednyte.7601:

Rob.7624:

Dovgan.8605:

@Rob Was SM recently turned over. How is it you assume the thief was glitching? And to what purpose being a thief, would he have in SM solo? I get it though, from this point forward I will also call exploiting on every single thing I see the other servers do with screen shots that don’t really show anything at all because it always must be exploits. Stop falling down to the lowest common denominator and report the player using the in game tools you are provided if you truly feel someone is exploiting game mechanics.

We’ve held SM for an hour or so and have been inside defending it since. There wasn’t a breach of SM when that pic was taken. And probably one of the most extensive mesmer sweeps. Do you really think a thief could hide for on hour inside SM while the entire NSP zerg occupies it? And yes, we have been using all the floors.
It is merely my word against er.. yours I suppose if you want to defend this thief?
What he would have gained is the extent of siege in our Lords room and he was also wiping our siege off the northern inner gate. As AR was attacking it at the time to no avail.

I’ll toss my lot in with you Bird Song…AR seems to be full of failboat Wv3rs who have to resort to cheating to get ahead, although very briefly. Sad fact is those failboats cast dubious shadows on those in AR that are true gamers at heart and are awesome to fight against.

Oh, public apology for calling out [Os] in my post earlier on the AR hack twits, seems there’s an [OS] guild on AR. Sorry for any Os tarnishing it might have caused and hope folks that read that post read this one.

When did AR get ahead?.., are we suddenly leading, can someone please post the score so i can see this kittens nonsense. He seems to believe that his server is the perfect angels above all. Typically I would say to the winning server of the tier, good luck and have fun next tier, but since DR is full of fail, I hope you all get destroyed next tier, and realize that your not that grand. Then let’s see how fast PRO transfers out like they transferred out of their original server.

StormWolf.7645:

osif.8673:

I like how you keep on insulting people/servers/guilds and then go on to say “oh, but I don’t mean any offense.” I’m going to start using that. I think I might walk up to a girl sometime and say, “Hey, you’re really fat. But I’m not trying to be offensive, just stating my opinion. Fatty.” I think she might take it pretty well.

That’s a horrible analogy. Much better would be “Yes that dress makes your butt look big, but if you change into a different dress like this one it would accentuate everything perfectly!” You’re taking criticism and observation of what you’re lacking as insults, which will only prevent you from improving rather than considering what I’ve said and looking at ways to improve. You’re really only proving my point about NSP having a problem with people who don’t listen.

I get it, I really do, you want to think your Server would be better and win if you had equal numbers to DR, but I disagree. It isn’t that I think you never could, just that as-is NSP is lacking in communication. There are only 2 “Effective” tactics I’ve seen from NSP since I’ve been on here, the smaller groups doing Ninja-moves, taking things before the enemy can respond…and Zerging to the point where you outnumber them ridiculously.

I’ll use an example: Just a little while ago NSP attacked DRBL, they did great and took DR’s Garri and Bay. Meanwhile DR was preparing Hills for the attack and built up it’s defenses so when you got there the zerg was beaten. That’s all right, it happens…but then DR split into several groups…one retook Bay, one retook Garri, and the third held off your return attack, not with the intention of beating you, just to keep you busy until both other groups finished re-taking the Keeps and returned.

End result: A wipe and lost everything in DRBL.

Why? Because DR used superior tactics and communication, they were able to utilize both small-unit groups and large-unit groups. NSP is not BAD….DR is simply better at this moment. Now stop taking it as an insult and maybe look for ways to improve Server unity/usefulness, utilize all of your Guilds and strengths to their utmost.

I am pleased to see the force of NSP finally do what I have always felt they were capable of doing. Congratulations guys!

Now for DR, you guys are so full of yourselves, better tactics, better strategy, simply better overall. You must stare at yourselves and think your gods. I guarantee that NSP used a substantial force to hit you, but not enough to cover the map. Even when i hit DR I know that once we hit you, we have to do things fast, because I know that you guys can muster twice the people on the map as we have trying to take it. Don’t flatter yourselves with having small numbers retaking things when in reality they aren’t. As an attacker NSP had to decide where to focus, why because with the amount of people you have, you have to make use of them. The fact NSP or AR can catch your places off guard and reset them clearly shows your not that great.

I’ll say the same thing i told BP when they were here bragging, posting pics of their almighty “Strategic” prowess. Those guilds that transferred into DR can easily transfer right back out. They have no loyalty, but to themselves. Good luck to you guys in the next tier. BP > DR in coverage, at least with them they can cover 3 of the maps, you guys can’t even keep an eye on your own borderlands.

Rob.7624:

Godfather.8217:

NSP,

What the hell are u guys doing, lol.

DR has owned your borderlands several times, and instead of getting payback, you guys rush into AR. I know your playing for points, but have some common sense. At this point, points don’t matter. I haven’t lead a strike on NSP since DR has arrived because I know who the real threat is, AR has been protecting their own lands. If you guys seriously have the force to do something, do it, but think about it. Instead of AR hitting DR right now as i speak, we have to sit here and defend against NSP. You guys don’t even own everything on your map right now. Why don’t you guys focus on that? Are u guys afraid of DR? Because it’s starting to seem like it.

Thats pretty rich coming from AR. Are you unaware that your borderland have been left untouched by DR while we are constantly attacked by both? (Untouched at the time this post was written)
I mean, your borderlands are just sitting there and you are shocked that someone has the audacity to attack? Maybe even surprised?

So to answer your question. What we are exactly doing is playing WvWvW. Where we actually attack both servers instead of just one.

This message has been brought to you by five pints of Guinness. With love. Arthur Guinness.

Even richer coming from you Rob,

Maybe it’s only when i log on, but I always seem to see your area green.., maybe now and then, a supply camp red, probably camp raiding…, DR hits us all the time, they’ve tried their hardest to take bay from us on multiple occasions, and this morning, I wanted to hit DR, but guess what we ended up doing instead, defending against NSP who didn’t even own their own borderlands for godsake. Just admit to it Rob NSP is scared of DR, actually never mind, you don’t need to say it, your actions already has.

Oozo.7856:

Godfather.8217:

Oozo.7856:

brandon.6735:

The problem with us is we don’t have many organize WvW guild anymore and the ones we do are medium size. We have way too many new pugs in WvW. I mean we really have to spam stuff in chat for the new pugs to understand lol.

P.S I have to say you been the most respectful DR yet that helps the other server instead of talking crap.

Saying that another realm is winning only because they have more population is also talking crap. That is implying that you would be winning if you had even numbers.
However, evidence from the field suggests otherwise.

Your absolutly correct,

DR would get destroyed.

And, your server would be annihilated?

I don’t understand why people get so upset about losing these server matchups. How your server is doing does not reflect on how good you or your guild is.

I’m not upset for losing these matchups lol i don’t play for position or points, i play to have fun. What ignites these threads is when the dominating team, which in the lower tiers is the one with the most population on the map, comes in these threads bragging how great they are, and posting screen shots of domination, or posting videos how they wiped groups with their premade of every forum built class.

My guild is here to have fun, infact my guys have called you all out, where are u.., where are those small teams running around as DR keeps insisting that’s what you do. Since we encountered your premade ele’s and thieves, with that 1 or two mesmers.., SOS has formed our own team.., and since then we’ve destroyed your small teams, but ya know what, we didn’t post any videos, we didn’t brag, because there’s no need for it. We want to fight you, and that’s why we are always in DR. So far DR has not impressed me, some of your smaller squad based guild groups have, but overall the server is quite obnoxious, and has less tactical strategy than a dolyak trying to reach it’s destination without dying.

Oozo.7856:

brandon.6735:

The problem with us is we don’t have many organize WvW guild anymore and the ones we do are medium size. We have way too many new pugs in WvW. I mean we really have to spam stuff in chat for the new pugs to understand lol.

P.S I have to say you been the most respectful DR yet that helps the other server instead of talking crap.

Saying that another realm is winning only because they have more population is also talking crap. That is implying that you would be winning if you had even numbers.
However, evidence from the field suggests otherwise.

Your absolutly correct,

DR would get destroyed.

Laiboch.4380:

I still love how every server DR has gone against has always had people saying the same false things.

DR is a zerg server… Every server has zergs, and those can be used very effectively as a distraction while you take key points.

90% of what I have seen from AR and NSP is zerging glass cannons, and those glass cannons get wiped out over and over. So please stop with the zerg comments when that’s pretty much all AR and NSP has thrown at DR. Both AR and NSP do have some really good WvW players, and you can tell when you fight them. They are organized, skilled and use tactics, but they are the exception not the rule.

DR has a huge population. I cannot count the times in our current match-up where DR has faced much larger numbers and won. AR fields huge zergs at all hours when compared to what DR fields. Its not that we have OMGZergPoWa its simply that we are better than you. Take hills last night… I SOLOED an 18+ man zerg trying to ninja hills with 1 cannon…. Really? 1 cannon took out almost the entire zerg and all 4 of your cats. I was alone in hills for a good 20 min before backup arrived in the form of 1 commander (James Games) 3 members of [GASM] a [Pro] or two and 3 randoms.

Every server we have fought has used the same excuses as to why they lose against us. only 2 of those servers can honestly say they could not field the numbers to fight us, but those few were better than all but a small handful of NSP and AR players.

Its not going to stop after we leave either. Kain is moving up and I hate to say it AR and NSP, but they are going to ROFLStomp you guys as well. They have a huge night crew, and unlike most of the servers DR has fought in WvW they don’t just roll over in their shell and give up content to battle it out for second place.

that’s funny,

I still love the way servers from the bottom who benefited from transfers then fight underpopulated servers and dominate think they are “great” in wvw. That they show “tactics” Your tag “Nigh Crew” saids it all, the fact you mention Kain has a big night crew saids it all. Sorry to say bud, but just because you fight servers that has no or little numbers during your PvD times, doesn’t make you awesome players. Your kitten if you think your good, and your going to get crushed in the upper tiers when you get there. The fact you can walts in with your Zerg, yes i said it because that is what you do and if you don’t think you do your a lost cause that stares at yourself in the mirror thinking your some super model. You can take things over, sit there and upgrade with little to no resistance so when the prime times come around it’s an uphill battle for either server to retake, by the time we log off, your pvd team comes around, and since we don’t have much defenders why bother upgrading as it will be lost easily. NSP feels it, AR feels it.., why do you think EB is rather abandoned by AR. And just like every other benefited server from the bottom coming up ranks in the lower tiers, your just like the typical big head that likes to brag.

NSP,

What the hell are u guys doing, lol.

DR has owned your borderlands several times, and instead of getting payback, you guys rush into AR. I know your playing for points, but have some common sense. At this point, points don’t matter. I haven’t lead a strike on NSP since DR has arrived because I know who the real threat is, AR has been protecting their own lands. If you guys seriously have the force to do something, do it, but think about it. Instead of AR hitting DR right now as i speak, we have to sit here and defend against NSP. You guys don’t even own everything on your map right now. Why don’t you guys focus on that? Are u guys afraid of DR? Because it’s starting to seem like it.

So…,

Another attempt to reset a keep in DR, two ticks and we would have had it. Your saving grace was the extra people that waypointed in during the time your keep was contested as well as the waypoint, and the fact the lord got back up twice giving you guys enough time to gain more defenders that ran in. Good job defending.

I’m going to find the notes i read regarding waypoints in keeps that are contested, but it’s all good.

On behalf of SOS,

Happy new years to all of you!

In about 2 hours I’ll be home from work, and I get to enjoy being with the guild and running an operation.

Keep up the good fight!

NotOneToRidicule.2340:

Godfather.8217:

Rob.7624:

Lord Aargadon.4135:

Scoooooore update

Devona’s Rest- 96k Anvil Rock- 45k Norther Shiverpeaks- 39k

Are AR still acting like Eternal doesn’t exist?
Because they have nearly twice the numbers we have and we are still making a stab in EB and have been all day.

SoS isn’t tied down defending this week, so we are defintly on the offensive. So today we conducted an operation and met our objective. We called it “Devona’s Reset” Our objective was to simply reset at least one of their keeps. Our primary was Garrison, 2nd was Bay. We succeeded in Garrison, but they held us off at Bay. it was alot of fun. This resulted in DR calling a very sized group to their borderlands to retake what they lost. Our attack force was minor in numbers compared to the army that DR managed to gather back into their borderlands, that army pretty much ran around together the rest of the time. It was alot of fun, my guild had alot of fun.

That was a great move. I saw 5 alpha golems inside Bay along with a sizable Zerg. Outside of NPCs, not sure we had more than 5-7 ppl that were there. Our commander got on a mortar and totally wiped those golems while the rest of us created a kill box by the supply depot. Awesome stuff. For a few seconds, I thought we were gonna lose it, but, the Zerg just melted away. Fun fight. I’m sure you left satisfied that at least Garrison was reset. We were ecstatic that upgrades at bay were saved…for now, anyway. :-)

We had 15 – 20 of my players and that’s about it, I wouldn’t consider us a zerg, infact the forces on the other side that was taking your hills had 5 commanders over there. which was making us laugh, because we weren’t using any tags. We had hoped that you guys would go off and defend there, but hey, i guess your fully fortified waypointed keep was more important. I also wasn’t expecting morters to be able to fire at such close proximity into the area, at least in front of the lords room. We initally cleared the walls, but we didn’t do it well enough it appears, but hey lesson learned, and overall we accomplished our mission. So eventually after we attempted to return from being wiped you guys were able to muster enough folks there to push us out completely. If you want to talk about zergs lol, let’s talk about that massive force you all had to finally retake hills from us. Which failed at the first attempt btw, thanks to our one treb that destroyed all your siege, it was alot of fun, i was the one firing that treb. You guys finnaly broke through thanks to the 1 eventually 3 trebs firing from the supply camp. since we couldn’t counter those I knew this was going to be a loss. I decided to focus on the lords room, but my guild was the only that did that and we didn’t have enough time to finish our set up. It was a fun fight.

Rob.7624:

Lord Aargadon.4135:

Scoooooore update

Devona’s Rest- 96k Anvil Rock- 45k Norther Shiverpeaks- 39k

Are AR still acting like Eternal doesn’t exist?
Because they have nearly twice the numbers we have and we are still making a stab in EB and have been all day.

@mug

Based on your remarks, I presume your on DR, since fighting kain who had less players than your server was so much fun. It also seems as if you have this idea that your server doesn’t run around in wvw with good size groups as well, because it does. Not only does it run around in 5 – 20 man groups, but it consists of thieves and ele’s as the majority.

@Rob

How is it that AR who came into this tier and was consistantley pinned down by NSP by your PvD night capping crew outpopulating NSP with double numbers? If i recall your server had at least two of the maps under control, and with enough time in between our prime time and your night cap, to forify just about everything in eb. So by the time we get on, its’ an uphill battle just to take a few places back before you call your entire force in. Exception to this week and last week, is DR is now the one’s that can control EB, with enough time to fortify everything before our prime time hits. Which is an uphill battle. So with the numbers that AR has, and the defence that we know DR can muster in a given moment, where do you think AR will spend our time? Players that go for points, will go where they can accomplish something. Players like me who just plays to have fun and cares little about points will most likely spend our time defending or perhaps in another borderland.

SoS isn’t tied down defending this week, so we are defintly on the offensive. So today we conducted an operation and met our objective. We called it “Devona’s Reset” Our objective was to simply reset at least one of their keeps. Our primary was Garrison, 2nd was Bay. We succeeded in Garrison, but they held us off at Bay. it was alot of fun. This resulted in DR calling a very sized group to their borderlands to retake what they lost. Our attack force was minor in numbers compared to the army that DR managed to gather back into their borderlands, that army pretty much ran around together the rest of the time. It was alot of fun, my guild had alot of fun.