Guild Wars 2

ugrakarma.9416:

GundamSentinel.6470:

I decided to give it a try for a few hours this afternoon.

Went on my thief, got on TS, didn’t join the squad or any party, just to check out what it was like. I followed the comm, attacked stragglers, did some scouting here and there, and when there was a bigger fight, I’d do my own thing and harrass the backlines.

I did at no point feel like I got less lootbags. If anything I might even have gotten more, as when the zergs were dancing around eachother, I (and others like me) was in the backline rekking fools left, right and center. When they finally started rolling, I rolled with them and tagged and finished downed. I had not a single issue with not being in a squad, no problem with not getting boons, because, y’know… thief… you should be self-sufficient.

And I’m not even a very experienced thief, or even on a decent build, so this really smells suspiciously like entitled whining and ltp issues.

i tried this role with warrior, is extremely fun, playing warr like a thiev, with their huge survival skills is fun. u can jump solo on enemy zerg to confuse them and get back with just 2 dodge rolls. the commanders loved me cuz i created oportunity to push.

Yeah, I sometimes do that on elementalist as well. Blink in with overload air, mist out, laugh.

I decided to give it a try for a few hours this afternoon.

Went on my thief, got on TS, didn’t join the squad or any party, just to check out what it was like. I followed the comm, attacked stragglers, did some scouting here and there, and when there was a bigger fight, I’d do my own thing and harrass the backlines.

I did at no point feel like I got less lootbags. If anything I might even have gotten more, as when the zergs were dancing around eachother, I (and others like me) was in the backline rekking fools left, right and center. When they finally started rolling, I rolled with them and tagged and finished downed. I had not a single issue with not being in a squad, no problem with not getting boons, because, y’know… thief… you should be self-sufficient.

And I’m not even a very experienced thief, or even on a decent build, so this really smells suspiciously like entitled whining and ltp issues.

I use 3 stats for my warrior:

- Full zerk when I actually feel like playing well. Warrior has enough survivability from skills and traits. If you know what you’re doing, zerk is fine. GS-H when zerging, GS-x/Shield when roaming (I suppose the meta is Axe/Shield, but Mace or Sword can be fun too. Especially mace with the extra CC. )
- Some marauder when I feel like I can’t stay alive with zerk. Sometimes because of lag, heavy pressure, or just because I’m playing crap.
- Full knight’s when I have a lazy day and just want to smash everything. Good survive and still excellent damage.

And of course, there’s condi warrior, which can be fun roaming.

Junkpile.7439:

Even i am +5k rank. How much people have been slacking if they are lower than that?

I just passed 4k and I’m in the top 500 on GW2Efficiency. While that doesn’t mean everything, it seems high WvW ranks really aren’t all that common.

Personally, I think this is a decent solution to give people who invested more time in WvW a boost in rewards. With some players having different play styles and opportunities to boost their ranks, of course it’s never going to be 100% clear cut who deserves what, but it’s a better implementation than most I’ve seen brought up.

Cry me a river.

Paying for siege, gear and food make WvW COST me money. I have to do PvE to even stay competitive in WvW. Let’s not even get started on large projects like legendaries…

I’m not as averse to PvE as many other WvW players and I’m way more efficient at earning gold than most. But that doesn’t mean that PvE is not a burden on me. A massive burden that I’d rather drop if I could.

So ye, before people start crying how unfair it is for them to HAVE to do WvW for some prestige project that takes ages to make anyway and of which the WvW part is relatively minuscule, maybe think about others and stop acting so entitled.

I already know I won’t get legendary armor, because Anet forces me to do PvE raids. I already know I won’t get a legendary backpiece, because Anet won’t implement one in WvW. I’m resigned to it. As I’m resigned to have to do PvE on a regular basis to properly equip my characters. But don’t come complaining here. I have no sympathy.

Justine.6351:

GundamSentinel.6470:

Justine.6351:

People want wvw ascended vendors for some reason beyond me. It already has the best/cheapest ascended armor/weapon acquire method atm. If it does come it will just be the same as the spvp version which will still require 500 crafting.

How exacly does wvw have the best/cheapest way of acquiring ascended? Because boxes can drop?

I play wvw several hours each day and have over 300% base MF, and I got just 5 ascended boxes in the whole of last year. Not even one complete set in a year. Gee, really efficient. I have to craft it? With food and siege expenses I make maybe 5-10g in an evening. It would take me months to fully gear a character in wvw.

Meanwhile ascended drops like candy in fractals and is handed out for free in pvp. How exactly is it easy to get ascended in wvw? Teach me, senpai!

Or stop talking nonsense and quit bringing up this completely backwards argument.

Oh no! Months for top gear!

Fractals do not drop ascended gear like candy… And hello…Ascended is required there. And no it is not free in spvp anymore. Ascended gear boxes may be RNG in wvw but it’s free and so long as you play the mode they will drop. It might not feel like it at times but they do come.

I don’t get what is so hard about getting ascended gear in wvw…Just play wvw, boom done easy.

I got more ascended drops in one month of fractals than in one year of wvw. You bet it drops like candy there.

I can’t get a full set in a year with wvw drops and I know people who’ve been playing wvw for four years and haven’t had a single ascended weapon or armor box. Getting a character full ascended gear with wvw drops is not unlike waiting for a precursor drop. You really think the RNG of wvw drops is an easy, efficient way to get ascended gear? Really…? What’s wrong with you?

Yes, fractals require ascended. But if you’re in any way serious about wvw you’ll have to update your build and the stats of your gear often. You know what makes that a whole lot easier? Ascended gear! You know what’s a pain to get for wvw players? Ascended gear!

Months of grinding for gear that is such a QoL improvement for a wvw player is a looooooooooong time.

Could I deal with it? Sure. I have other ways to make money that don’t require me to sell my brain cells for pve gold and gear. But Anet has been so blatantly ignoring any ways to make wvw a bit more easy and profitable for the players that the ascended vendors for fractals and pvp seem particularly spiteful and a denial of wvw as a legitimate game mode.

Justine.6351:

People want wvw ascended vendors for some reason beyond me. It already has the best/cheapest ascended armor/weapon acquire method atm. If it does come it will just be the same as the spvp version which will still require 500 crafting.

How exacly does wvw have the best/cheapest way of acquiring ascended? Because boxes can drop?

I play wvw several hours each day and have over 300% base MF, and I got just 5 ascended boxes in the whole of last year. Not even one complete set in a year. Gee, really efficient. I have to craft it? With food and siege expenses I make maybe 5-10g in an evening. It would take me months to fully gear a character in wvw.

Meanwhile ascended drops like candy in fractals and is handed out for free in pvp. How exactly is it easy to get ascended in wvw? Teach me, senpai!

Or stop talking nonsense and quit bringing up this completely backwards argument.

Seems like a particle physicist solution where every time they find a phenomenon they can’t explain they invent a new particle to account for it.

Balance condis, condi skills, condi clear or resistance, but for crying out loud don’t add another game system to mess up the already horrible balance.

Hesacon.8735:

Players complained about movement challenges to a map, and anet has done major changes twice now. They complained about bloodlust and got it.

I’m rather curious who all these mysterious people are who complained about bloodlust. My server has been almost exclusively red for the past couple of months and I’ve never seen anyone in team, map or guild chat complaining about not being able to get bloodlust. I’m getting the suspicion that it’s once again just people doing it for the dailies and not anyone actually involved in wvw. Don’t pretend we should be flying the flag for this absurdly minor addition that really should have been there months ago.

Looking at the latest patch:

- Point changes about which opinions are divided (to say the least).
- Tonic changes that a lot of people resent.
- Desert border changes that (once again) don’t change the inherent problems of the map such as size and chokes.
- Portable provisioner change.
- Mastery changes that a lot of people won’t even notice
- WvW portal changes.

I’m not saying I am unhappy with it all. In fact, I really like the provisioner change. However, only half of these are pure wvw changes and not just scraps from pvp/pve changes, half of these have met with mixed reception, half of these are unnoticed by many wvw players and none of these have any major positive impact on wvw as a game mode.

Yes, I’m gonna keep complaining about getting the leftovers year after year. I paid for this game, just as the pvp/pve people did.

Fay.2357:

They cost 5s on the trading post because anyone that does WvW regards them as utter junk. I’m sure you can pony up 13 gold for a stack to get your legendary.

I was about to say. This is an issue now? Really? People making a legendary that usually costs in excess of 2000g and they have a problem buying one comparatively cheap material on the TP? Wow.

miguelsil.6324:

This thread will be closed because they dont want you to know anything.

Probably just deleted without a word. Causes less fuss.

Lolwut, am I talking about Anet or the mafia? XD

DeceiverX.8361:

kins.3294:

Email support that we want Ascended armor and weapons in WvW with WvW currency

This will achieve literally nothing except getting you banned from the boards.

Support has absolutely zero influence in what happens with development unless it’s bug fixes. It’s like insulting the cashier that your product was defective while refusing to return or exchange it; it’s not their fault, and not much they can do about it, so there’s no reason to be ruining their day.

Source: I worked in MMO support.

I dunno, ruffle a cashier long enough, they might go to complain to their boss. Besides, I need somewhere to vent my impotent rage.

The time that I thought Anet’s attitude towards WvW was some form of benign neglect was years ago. I’m not sure if I’m opposed to ruining the day of anyone who represents that trend in any way. I’ve had plently of mine ruined by their consistently abysmal patches.

You know, it’s stuff like this that makes me really resent the PvE community.

You have to spend a couple of hours in wvw to get your legendary? Boohoo.

I have to spend excruciating ages in PvE to grind my legendary. On top of that, WvW rewards have always been absurdly low (presumably to encourage only people who actually like the game mode to go WvW. looks at empty borders Yes, doing a good job there, Anet). All the while there isn’t a WvW-exclusive legendary. Even the unique WvW armor skin isn’t complete, and no ETA when that will be.

Cry me a river, you don’t know how good you have it.

GH here. Half my guild stopped playing showing up for raids, many previously active players on the server can’t be bothered playing anymore or want to switch server. I’m tempted to drop GW2 entirely for a couple of months.

I don’t mind losing matchups. But empty Vabbi on our side means we don’t even stand the slightest chance in any matchups. No fights, just steamrolling blobs. I’m not having fun at all.

Extra sour is that before this server linking we were slowly crawling up the ranks. Does Anet even play wvw? Do they even know what actual wvw players like and want? It has never seemed that way.

morrolan.9608:

GundamSentinel.6470:

So asymmetric map setup for the servers. Thanks, another variable to throw the balance between servers out of whack. Really classy.

The players voted on it so……

And there’s the problem with democracy: none of us is as stupid as all of us.

So asymmetric map setup for the servers. Thanks, another variable to throw the balance between servers out of whack. Really classy.

Here’s an idea: go afk in Edge of the Mists. You get the Reward Track and you’re not hogging a slot.

Puck.9612:

GundamSentinel.6470:

Puck.9612:

GundamSentinel.6470:

Puck.9612:

GundamSentinel.6470:

DeceiverX.8361:

They’re not playing for objectives/PPT to justify a gank.
They’re not actually looking for fights or small group skirmishes.
They’re not actually interested in a fair fight or a fun one.

It’s those types of “roamers” who I have absolutely no respect for.

This basically sums up the type of roamers I hate. Those who have no intention of actually contributing to WvW and are just looking for cheap kills. Those who run away from anything resembling a fair fight. Go do that in EotM or something.

Sure, I sometimes run cheap builds, I sometimes gank people who stand no chance of winning, but when I do I actually go to cap or to defend.

That makes no sense at all…. You know your server gets points for kills too right?

That’s pretty naive if you think they’re doing it for the points. There are way better ways to spend your time if you want to help your server get points.

“Sure, I sometimes run cheap builds, I sometimes gank people who stand no chance of winning, but when I do I actually go to cap or to defend.”

That’s the part that doesn’t make sense. You think it’s okay for you to act that way but you condemn them for doing the same.
Glass houses bud.

If you can’t grasp the distinction, that’s not my fault. It’s not very difficult. When I roam, I cap, defend, scout and harass bigger groups.

I don’t just sit somewhere, ambushing people who can’t win for the lulz and run away when a fair fight shows up.

There’s only two things I want from roamers: 1) try to do something useful for the server, 2) don’t be a coward when someone in your league show up.

I’m sorry, do you follow these players around for hours on end to see what they are doing? How do you know they aren’t fighting equal sized groups or harassing larger groups? You see them ganking people, which you also do, and you judge them for it. If nothing else, every player they gank is someone not making it to the tag or to one of your camps/structures.

People communicate. I don’t know about your server, but on mine people get to know when the same people are still camping the same spot of the map an hour later.

That’s rarely a problem with solo roamers, but when a party of people (or worse, a guild party) just keeps running around the same objective, without any move towards capping it, only looking for easy targets, that’s just stupid. And I see that quite regularly.

Puck.9612:

GundamSentinel.6470:

Puck.9612:

GundamSentinel.6470:

DeceiverX.8361:

They’re not playing for objectives/PPT to justify a gank.
They’re not actually looking for fights or small group skirmishes.
They’re not actually interested in a fair fight or a fun one.

It’s those types of “roamers” who I have absolutely no respect for.

This basically sums up the type of roamers I hate. Those who have no intention of actually contributing to WvW and are just looking for cheap kills. Those who run away from anything resembling a fair fight. Go do that in EotM or something.

Sure, I sometimes run cheap builds, I sometimes gank people who stand no chance of winning, but when I do I actually go to cap or to defend.

That makes no sense at all…. You know your server gets points for kills too right?

That’s pretty naive if you think they’re doing it for the points. There are way better ways to spend your time if you want to help your server get points.

“Sure, I sometimes run cheap builds, I sometimes gank people who stand no chance of winning, but when I do I actually go to cap or to defend.”

That’s the part that doesn’t make sense. You think it’s okay for you to act that way but you condemn them for doing the same.
Glass houses bud.

If you can’t grasp the distinction, that’s not my fault. It’s not very difficult. When I roam, I cap, defend, scout and harass bigger groups.

I don’t just sit somewhere, ambushing people who can’t win for the lulz and run away when a fair fight shows up.

There’s only two things I want from roamers: 1) try to do something useful for the server, 2) don’t be a coward when someone in your league show up.

Puck.9612:

GundamSentinel.6470:

DeceiverX.8361:

They’re not playing for objectives/PPT to justify a gank.
They’re not actually looking for fights or small group skirmishes.
They’re not actually interested in a fair fight or a fun one.

It’s those types of “roamers” who I have absolutely no respect for.

This basically sums up the type of roamers I hate. Those who have no intention of actually contributing to WvW and are just looking for cheap kills. Those who run away from anything resembling a fair fight. Go do that in EotM or something.

Sure, I sometimes run cheap builds, I sometimes gank people who stand no chance of winning, but when I do I actually go to cap or to defend.

That makes no sense at all…. You know your server gets points for kills too right?

That’s pretty naive if you think they’re doing it for the points. There are way better ways to spend your time if you want to help your server get points.

DeceiverX.8361:

They’re not playing for objectives/PPT to justify a gank.
They’re not actually looking for fights or small group skirmishes.
They’re not actually interested in a fair fight or a fun one.

It’s those types of “roamers” who I have absolutely no respect for.

This basically sums up the type of roamers I hate. Those who have no intention of actually contributing to WvW and are just looking for cheap kills. Those who run away from anything resembling a fair fight. Go do that in EotM or something.

Sure, I sometimes run cheap builds, I sometimes gank people who stand no chance of winning, but when I do I actually go to cap or to defend.

Nope, still no luck. It’s getting a bit ridiculous after 3 weeks. :S

Been having the same problem. One of my characters got deleted just fine, but another one just won’t budge.

Same 5:11:3:159:101 issue. Straights of Devastation for me. Tried -prefreset, tried guesting, tried using a party to fish myself out, but so far no luck and only frustration

EU – Gunnar’s Hold

Yup, same in Gunnar’s Hold.

Good to see those kind words about our server. We’ve been getting more organized over the past few weeks and playing WSR has been more fun because of it. We’re holding our own as best as possible, but some assistance would be nice.