Guild Wars 2

Grunim.9034:

Interesting, I just peeked at the login screen and TC, FA and YB all appear as full servers. Congrats FA and YB for joining us in the full server club!

LOL by that measure, if YB is full then SBI must be colossal.

Or ANet could be lowering the bar again.

Saradon WarChild.2034:

HTXL.2598:

Saradon WarChild.2034:

Xavi.6591:

Saradon WarChild.2034:

The real question on everybody’s mind is if Yak’s is going to blow their biggest lead yet. Almost there!

Considering that Yak’s has very little EU/Oceanic presence, it’s not hard to predict that we will lose a lot of points during this time. Rocket science.

Oh, gotcha. When Yak’s is winning it’s because they’re better organized and when they start to lose it’s because you don’t have a presence! This totally explains why you lost several thousand points during prime time last night!

Many of my guild are on Atlantic or Eastern Time. I don’t have to work anymore so when I wake up at 8AM, I’ll often lead a bunch of raids before heading out for a run. I do the same thing in my early afternoon before the gym too. Is that nightcapping? I’m in North America, it’s morning and afternoon for me and my guys.

No, the explanation is simple really. TC and FA made pushes north on YBBL. Basic 2v1 nothing new really, taking on the smaller server no less. Hell, TC alone could probably turn that map green if they really wanted to.

You really expect YB to hold two fronts, especially when one server as populated as it is? Didn’t think so.

By the way, you can paint the bottom half of the map just as well as painting the left or right.

Wow this could have been an FA post on Monday morning. Strange how things work out!

Sorry I should have been more clear. Only one server really is at capacity, at any given time, within this tier, to paint the bottom half their color.

Saradon WarChild.2034:

Xavi.6591:

Saradon WarChild.2034:

The real question on everybody’s mind is if Yak’s is going to blow their biggest lead yet. Almost there!

Considering that Yak’s has very little EU/Oceanic presence, it’s not hard to predict that we will lose a lot of points during this time. Rocket science.

Oh, gotcha. When Yak’s is winning it’s because they’re better organized and when they start to lose it’s because you don’t have a presence! This totally explains why you lost several thousand points during prime time last night!

Many of my guild are on Atlantic or Eastern Time. I don’t have to work anymore so when I wake up at 8AM, I’ll often lead a bunch of raids before heading out for a run. I do the same thing in my early afternoon before the gym too. Is that nightcapping? I’m in North America, it’s morning and afternoon for me and my guys.

No, the explanation is simple really. TC and FA made pushes north on YBBL. Basic 2v1 nothing new really, taking on the smaller server no less. Hell, TC alone could probably turn that map green if they really wanted to.

You really expect YB to hold two fronts, especially when one server as populated as it is? Didn’t think so.

By the way, you can paint the bottom half of the map just as well as painting the left or right.

Xavi.6591:

HTXL.2598:

^

Yet last night we still 2v1 you on YBBL. Sorry bro.

Okay, you 2v1 us. Got it.

I was referring to the commander on YB, not you, sorry. You got your post off before mine. His post is legit.

^

Yet last night we still 2v1 you on YBBL. Sorry bro.

Arcadio.6875:

TC being full has more to do with PvE than WvW.

Can’t be too sure about that. Wvw is a great concept and much easier to join when your server is winning.

Regardless, FA doesn’t have much of a choice. It’s either TC+CD or Mag+EB. The ratings dictate what the matches are and TC will be staying in the tier and CD will be moving into it. http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

CD is or was a decent wvw server but I think some guilds transferred off. Either way, I know some loyalists remain and should put up a great fight.

Arcadio.6875:

HTXL.2598:

Arcadio.6875:

HTXL.2598:

Arcadio.6875:

Hopefully FA can stay in the tier. We have not gotten our chance to fight CD yet. Fighting Maguuma will still be fun of course.

The score between FA and YB is close.

If anything, TC needs to move up.

IoJ will destroy us. We’ll never get a FA/YB/CD fight unless one of the top 7 servers collapse lol. Another possibility is if one of the top 7 servers loses enough population to equal FA/YB. But right now, CD coming up is a sure thing. Either FA or YB will drop to fight Mag and EB.

Ah, so instead of the challenge you’d rather stay in a tier where victory is assured due to population.

Got you.

Don’t know what you’re talking about. TC’s victory here is assured because of population. IoJ would win here because of population. FA/YB would win T4 because of population. The only possible matchup for my server where population is less of an issue is FA/YB/CD which isn’t happening.

And between fighting TC+CD or Mag+EB, I already said earlier that I’d rather fight the former which is the more challenging of the two.

Well, let me clarify. Here we have three servers, one with the population to contend in tier two. Hell, I think the server shows full more often than JQ. But I digress.

You want to keep playing against a server of that magnitude and call it a challenge, that’s cool. But with the score is as lopsided as this, and it is lopsided, one server obviously does not belong in the tier and truly decides who places second.

I say, let them move up and enjoy equal competition.

Arcadio.6875:

HTXL.2598:

Arcadio.6875:

Hopefully FA can stay in the tier. We have not gotten our chance to fight CD yet. Fighting Maguuma will still be fun of course.

The score between FA and YB is close.

If anything, TC needs to move up.

IoJ will destroy us. We’ll never get a FA/YB/CD fight unless one of the top 7 servers collapse lol. Another possibility is if one of the top 7 servers loses enough population to equal FA/YB. But right now, CD coming up is a sure thing. Either FA or YB will drop to fight Mag and EB.

Ah, so instead of the challenge you’d rather stay in a tier where victory is assured due to population.

Got you.

Arcadio.6875:

Hopefully FA can stay in the tier. We have not gotten our chance to fight CD yet. Fighting Maguuma will still be fun of course.

The score between FA and YB is close.

If anything, TC needs to move up.

Jay.3284:

HTXL.2598:

Jay.3284:

HTXL.2598:

Jay.3284:

Nothing, because unlike you and majority of the thieves on this forum, I played it with skill and not because it was the strongest and one of the most facerolls in PvP…

Get out

Hey Ranger, please the ranger forum is that way ->

There’s this thing people can do, you know making more than one alt…

Lies, everything about your post history is biased. I’ve already read so please, don’t delete.

You’re a troll or an idiot. Either or a waste of my time. Sit there and wallow in your disdain.

Fine, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, and say you have a 80 thief.

You still don’t know jack about pvp thief.

aaron.7850:

You guys are the worst babies I have seen in any MMO, you can still abuse stealth and backstab and heartseeker.

But good, reroll, almost every guy and his mother plays thieves in wvwvw, the less I see the better. Try other classes and see how HARD they have it compared to thieves.

Nope. The babies were the ones that cried nerf.

Jay.3284:

HTXL.2598:

Jay.3284:

Nothing, because unlike you and majority of the thieves on this forum, I played it with skill and not because it was the strongest and one of the most facerolls in PvP…

Get out

Hey Ranger, please the ranger forum is that way ->

There’s this thing people can do, you know making more than one alt…

Lies, everything about your post history is biased. I’ve already read so please, don’t delete.

Roll Staff bunker Ele, already strong, Mist form got buffed

Jay.3284:

Nothing, because unlike you and majority of the thieves on this forum, I played it with skill and not because it was the strongest and one of the most facerolls in PvP…

Get out

Hey Ranger, please the ranger forum is that way →

Imperator totius Sylvari.9164:

That was… uncalled for…. anyone up for a petition…

I +1 you, wish I could do it 100 times

D/D no longer viable.

and wtf is cluster shot? Who made these nerfs?

Are they playing the same game as us?

No, mesmer will get nerf simply because of the contribution factor the class obviously reigns.

Unfortunately, this had to happen.

Not saying BS glass cannon thief is OP, but to appeal to the casuals (less reactive) players, they had to change it.

jboynton.7894:

HTXL.2598:

Infractions are warranted, especially here and now. I have received one myself.

jboynton,

I expect more gear to come out in the future. I expect gear to get better because ultimately, how boring would it be to have the same gear stats, just different skins, even three months from now.

Let’s be open-minded.

It wouldn’t be boring at all. It’s what I fully expected for two reasons:

1) This is the sequel to GW1, thus carrying many of the principles over, and that game was extremely fun. It also had zero vertical gear progression in seven years.
2)It’s what was advertised and stated over and over and over again throughout the development phases.

In all honesty the ones who are truly closed-minded are the one who thing this is the ONLY way this game can survive and that it MUST be done.

Additionally, this game is doing fine. All MMOs bleed players. It’s the nature of the beast. Nothing, no matter what, will retain 100% of the player base from launch to closure.

One surefire way of ensure a quick bleeding of players is to alienate your existing, loyal, player base in the hopes of grabbing them from another game AND retaining them. No MMO to-date has accomplished this.

Yeah, if they leave. Because it’s still the same game, no sub, really. I’m sorry that a new item, one of which is debatable if the output damage is greater than existing items in game, has ruined their day.

I won’t reason anymore because it doesn’t exist here.

Keatstwo.1839:

HTXL.2598:

Infractions are warranted, especially here and now. I have received one myself.

jboynton,

I expect more gear to come out in the future. I expect gear to get better because ultimately, how boring would it be to have the same gear stats, just different skins, even three months from now.

Let’s be open-minded.

Worked for 7 years in GW1 without becoming boring.

GW1 is not an MMO.

Infractions are warranted, especially here and now. I have received one myself.

jboynton,

I expect more gear to come out in the future. I expect gear to get better because ultimately, how boring would it be to have the same gear stats, just different skins, even three months from now.

Let’s be open-minded.

alanis.6094:

HTXL.2598:

alanis.6094:

Reevac.1748:

HTXL.2598:

https://d2vn94glaxzkz3.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ascended-EN.png

Ruby Orichalcum Ring: +67 Power: +48 Precision: +3% Critcal Damage

The difference is so miniscule that I even wonder if the ruby ring is better altogether while the new ascended ring is good for drops.

Apparently that equals 8%…go figure?

68/63 = 1.079

7.9%

Math is hard.

Er. you forgot the crit damage from ruby? pretty obvious stat, i mean it’s right there.

I’m using the example they posted on the blog. I don’t know why you’d try to compare Berserkers vs Explorers…

HTXL.2598:

stof.9341:

HTXL.2598:

Eh?

You guys are worried about damage altogether right? Seems to me, by eyeballing, the one with more dps is the ruby.

Why don’t you compare the ruby ring with the Power/Precision/Crit Damage Ascended ring instead of going on a apples and oranges comparison?

We don’t even know if there will be that set. You’re speculating. You’re overreacting. All of you. Over what? 10-15 kittening points.

Are you adults? Because you don’t seem like it.

stof.9341:

HTXL.2598:

Eh?

You guys are worried about damage altogether right? Seems to me, by eyeballing, the one with more dps is the ruby.

Why don’t you compare the ruby ring with the Power/Precision/Crit Damage Ascended ring instead of going on a apples and oranges comparison?

We don’t even know if there will be that set. You’re speculating. You’re overreacting. All of you. Over what? 10-15 kittening points.

Are you adults? Because you don’t seem like it.

alanis.6094:

Reevac.1748:

HTXL.2598:

https://d2vn94glaxzkz3.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ascended-EN.png

Ruby Orichalcum Ring: +67 Power: +48 Precision: +3% Critcal Damage

The difference is so miniscule that I even wonder if the ruby ring is better altogether while the new ascended ring is good for drops.

Apparently that equals 8%…go figure?

68/63 = 1.079

7.9%

Math is hard.

Er. you forgot the crit damage from ruby? pretty obvious stat, i mean it’s right there.

Strang.8170:

HTXL.2598:

https://d2vn94glaxzkz3.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ascended-EN.png

Ruby Orichalcum Ring: +67 Power: +48 Precision: +3% Critcal Damage

The difference is so miniscule that I even wonder if the ruby ring is better altogether while the new ascended ring is good for drops.

You can´t compare 2 different sets of stats, that´s like comparing oranges and apples.

The image itself compares the rings with same stat distributions, and is basicly what made this kittentrom happen.

Also, no matter what the difference is now, it´s a start and step towards something a lot of us don´t want to head towards.

Eh?

You guys are worried about damage altogether right? Seems to me, by eyeballing, the one with more dps is the ruby.

https://d2vn94glaxzkz3.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ascended-EN.png

Ruby Orichalcum Ring: +67 Power: +48 Precision: +3% Critcal Damage

The difference is so miniscule that I even wonder if the ruby ring is better altogether while the new ascended ring is good for drops.

I also approve of the upcoming update!

You can spin it anyway you want.

He clearly means players that have reached 80 and are frustrated that a legendary is long grind, so they put something in between.

I also think this is a win-win. I think people should play first before making judgements.

Getting old quick.

And’s what to stop you from posting LF2M No req.

You guys are no different.

I think it’s safe to say those content with the upcoming patch have no reason to post.

OP,

despite what they may think, the people here do you reflect the majority. On that note, here’s to hoping people will stop overreacting before playing.

Sorry, it reeks of fail troll OP.

Incendiary thread for sure, do not feed.

Wintyre Fraust.6534:

jboynton asks: “How does GW2 maintain its position as a revenue driver without that income in future quarters?”

How does aborting the design manifesto – which, arguably, drove those sales in the first place – help raise revenue from a game that has no subscription? Are hardcore players the top consumers of cash shop items? I doubt it. Are hardcore gear-grinders going to produce the same kind of B2P expansion sales (when one comes out) as launch? If ANET alienates everyone who bought GW2 because of that manifesto, and because of the non-grind “whole-world” end game philosophy, what are those expansion sales going to be?

It seems to me we’re witnessing a potential SWG moment here; ANET can alienate everyone who came here specifically because of what GW2 was billed as, promised to be, and for three months now has delivered by changing the core nature of the game. And for what? Players that endlessly run from game to game seeking a means to satiate a never-ending quest for avatar progression/power?

They add one new dungeon and gear set for players that are already 80. A lot of players are already 80 btw.

ArcTheFallen.7682:

StormcrowX.9236:

prenavo.3926:

Metafrank.9017:

prenavo.3926:

This question only works if the majority of the games population answers this question. For that the majority of the players would have to be on the forums. I’m pretty sure more than half of the people who play never visit the forums.

So who were the people that were for it? Because Linsay states that the decision was made due to feedback of the community. Well, it’s certainly not THIS community, I think that is pretty obvious now.

This is actually something that I’d love to know myself. I really wish they would tell us exactly how they find out this stuff. I’m all for the new content coming in, but this one thing remains a mystery to everyone. To be fair, I think it’s something we should all know the specifics of.

This. Quoted and bolded for truth.

Because if the devs haven’t noticed by now, the feedback since the announcement has been overwhelmingly negative. So the question becomes, who the kitten thought this was a good idea and who the kitten is actually getting precedence (suggestions-wise)? Several popular and oft-asked for features eg. TP preview, FoV slider, appearance change, guild halls etc. have not been added, yet Anet had the time to implement this kind of nonsense.

Forums are the worst place to get a survey. And let’s not forget the many threads complaining about what to do at lvl80 that piled up over the course of 3 months. You kinda forgot that. Quit trying out the mob effect, and thinking you guys represent everyone. This is a hot topic that’s why there’s a huge thread. And gaining more playable content will help get some groups back. What’s wrong with that? You want Gw2 to be a successful game, but you do not want to support it if it goes a certain way. Some of us actually want to support a game if it’s good. Not by what some manifesto/blog said.

A logical viewpoint.

Az z.2746:

Dear ANet, do you want to do gear progression?

Fine, but please keep it away from WvW.

We already have to grind gold for siege and structure upgrades, don’t make us also grind equips every new content patch.

I assure you, the commanders have an endless supply of siege equipment. Especially in tiers 1-3.

Creslin.1758:

Crackbone.5710:

jboynton.7894:

Crackbone.5710:

HTXL.2598:

Crackbone.5710:

jboynton.7894:

Crackbone.5710:

Lordrosicky.5813:

They lied to us for years.

/Thread

Or, they fully intended to go the route they had “promised” only to find out it wasn’t going to meet the needs financially.

What would you have them do? Just allow the game to crash and burn?

Reality has a way of being a kitten when it comes to lofty ideals meeting a market driven economy.

GW1 was f2p from the start and had multiple expansions. That game was successful enough to warrant a sequel. This game is doing fine.

This isn’t 2004.

The market is a ton more competitive now. Furthermore, GW2 isn’t GW1. Not even close. The design of the game is completely different across the board.

This is a real MMORPG. People expect mechanics that will keep them engaged in their characters.

You can’t get by with MMOG mechanics in a MMORPG in 2012. There has to be a carrot or a reason for folks to keep playing.

And horizontal progression gets older faster than vertical.

Precisely.

Pulling all of the emotion out of this debate, you really have to consider the “Why.”

Why add vertical progression? I assert that it’s because their current model of horizontal progression isn’t retaining customers as they hoped it would. Furthermore, they likely had this entire model in their backpocket if the numbers stacked up this way.

It’s simple, Either you want Guild Wars 2 to be around as a healthy and profitable game for ANet and NCSoft for the next 3-5 years, or you want outdated mechanics from 2004.

They are, in my opinion as ANet has figured out, mutually exclusive, and it’s coming home to roost now as Ascended Gear.

Sorry man, but NCSoft’s financials just don’t mimic what you’re posting. Frankly put, the game had a massively successful launch and continues to be successful to this day. The problem is, that the suits who make the decisions get jealous of Blizzard. Period.

You cannot compete with WoW. This has been proven time and time again. The only thing that will kill WoW is Blizzard.

My interpretation of the numbers is far different than what the marketing speak out of NCSoft was.

Those numbers are far below what they should be for a title of this quality and size.

I want to be clear about something here :

I am not stating that a gear grind is the RIGHT way to do things. There are plenty of other ways you can add in character progression that’s more fun and more engaging.

However, the advantage to gear is this :

1. It’s quick. Same stats, marginally better, with a gated content slot. Easy to put it into the game, takes relatively little balance if the increases are largely the same across the board.

For whatever reason, and you can debate the why, I have my opinion, and you have yours, but, ANet clearly needed something “Quick.” If time wasn’t of the essence here, they would’ve gone a different route.

May I ask what you are basing your assertion that GW2 is essentially in a downward spiral on? Please do not say XFire.

Why not?

So when the stats were high, and GW2 ranked 2nd, with 100,000+ players recorded playing, it was fine?

But now that it sits at 15,000, we can’t use it?

Lordrosicky.5813:

Crackbone.5710:

HTXL.2598:

Crackbone.5710:

jboynton.7894:

Crackbone.5710:

Lordrosicky.5813:

They lied to us for years.

/Thread

Or, they fully intended to go the route they had “promised” only to find out it wasn’t going to meet the needs financially.

What would you have them do? Just allow the game to crash and burn?

Reality has a way of being a kitten when it comes to lofty ideals meeting a market driven economy.

GW1 was f2p from the start and had multiple expansions. That game was successful enough to warrant a sequel. This game is doing fine.

This isn’t 2004.

The market is a ton more competitive now. Furthermore, GW2 isn’t GW1. Not even close. The design of the game is completely different across the board.

This is a real MMORPG. People expect mechanics that will keep them engaged in their characters.

You can’t get by with MMOG mechanics in a MMORPG in 2012. There has to be a carrot or a reason for folks to keep playing.

And horizontal progression gets older faster than vertical.

Precisely.

Pulling all of the emotion out of this debate, you really have to consider the “Why.”

Why add vertical progression? I assert that it’s because their current model of horizontal progression isn’t retaining customers as they hoped it would. Furthermore, they likely had this entire model in their backpocket if the numbers stacked up this way.

It’s simple, Either you want Guild Wars 2 to be around as a healthy and profitable game for ANet and NCSoft for the next 3-5 years, or you want outdated mechanics from 2004.

They are, in my opinion as ANet has figured out, mutually exclusive, and it’s coming home to roost now as Ascended Gear.

Evidence for anything you have said = nothing.

Your not smart or clever. We all understand your boring viewpoint now so kindly move along and let us be sad in peace.

That’s why I’m not writing paragraphs. No one wants you to be sad either.

Play the game, and see how it pans out. It’s still the same game, with more content. No subscription. Have fun.

Algreg.3629:

HTXL.2598:

There’s no subscription, you’re not paying a dime, and you’re complaining?

But you got your $60 worth, right?

the point is not the money, but wanting to enjoy the game further which requires it being enjoyable, not so hard to understand, even for a oneliner-troll.

You make it hard for yourself to enjoy, not us. Sorry.

Crackbone.5710:

jboynton.7894:

Crackbone.5710:

Lordrosicky.5813:

They lied to us for years.

/Thread

Or, they fully intended to go the route they had “promised” only to find out it wasn’t going to meet the needs financially.

What would you have them do? Just allow the game to crash and burn?

Reality has a way of being a kitten when it comes to lofty ideals meeting a market driven economy.

GW1 was f2p from the start and had multiple expansions. That game was successful enough to warrant a sequel. This game is doing fine.

This isn’t 2004.

The market is a ton more competitive now. Furthermore, GW2 isn’t GW1. Not even close. The design of the game is completely different across the board.

This is a real MMORPG. People expect mechanics that will keep them engaged in their characters.

You can’t get by with MMOG mechanics in a MMORPG in 2012. There has to be a carrot or a reason for folks to keep playing.

And horizontal progression gets older faster than vertical.

And yes, on my server, the people that were vocal when I asked in map chat felt it was a positive move. No one was vocal against it.

Tyr.1965:

HTXL.2598:

There’s no subscription, you’re not paying a dime, and you’re complaining?

Many of us have already paid out more money per month on gems than we would have on a subscription fee in other games.

So have I, but because I chose to do so. They did not force it on me.

I embrace the change, felt something was needed.

Just saying not everyone is as displeased with the move.

There’s no subscription, you’re not paying a dime, and you’re complaining?

But you got your $60 worth, right?

No, it means you’re ungrateful.

I’ve got family in the philippines happy they have a kittening computer.

Leiloni.7951:

HTXL.2598:

Jestunhi.7429:

HTXL.2598:

Then you don’t know what they promised.

Then, again, I request you provide a link if you claim that they have broken their promise.

But if you think that my lack of interest in raids means that I am somehow unable to read any part of the interview / advertising relating to raiding then you are mistaken.

The fact that I came here specifically because it wasn’t required to progress kind of says I looked into it, wouldn’t you say?

Yea, look, I’ll wrap my posts up here.

Don’t leave the game because w/e happens I assure you, this game is catered for the casual mindset, which is good. They need to retain players as well tho, spice up things just a tiny a bit to cater to everyone.

In response to the end-game comment:

When we looked at the concept of “endgame” for Guild Wars 2, we designed it the same way. We didn’t want the endgame to be something you could only experience after a hundred hours of gameplay or after you reached some arbitrary number. We wanted it to be something that players got to experience every step along the way, spread out across the entire world of Tyria, so we’ve introduced game elements that you’d normally associate with “endgame” at every level and every possible opportunity.

Uh… so thanks for posting a quote that proves what we’ve been saying and goes against what you keep saying about raids? Lol.

Sigh, nevermind -_-

Jestunhi.7429:

HTXL.2598:

Then you don’t know what they promised.

Then, again, I request you provide a link if you claim that they have broken their promise.

But if you think that my lack of interest in raids means that I am somehow unable to read any part of the interview / advertising relating to raiding then you are mistaken.

The fact that I came here specifically because it wasn’t required to progress kind of says I looked into it, wouldn’t you say?

Yea, look, I’ll wrap my posts up here.

Don’t leave the game because w/e happens I assure you, this game is catered for the casual mindset, which is good. They need to retain players as well tho, spice up things just a tiny a bit to cater to everyone.

In response to the end-game comment:

When we looked at the concept of “endgame” for Guild Wars 2, we designed it the same way. We didn’t want the endgame to be something you could only experience after a hundred hours of gameplay or after you reached some arbitrary number. We wanted it to be something that players got to experience every step along the way, spread out across the entire world of Tyria, so we’ve introduced game elements that you’d normally associate with “endgame” at every level and every possible opportunity.

Jestunhi.7429:

HTXL.2598:

Jestunhi.7429:

HTXL.2598:

Jestunhi, surely you jest.

You remember the time first time you ever raided? I do. It was in Rift, a great game btw, despite the opinions here.

Though entertained with GW2, I have yet to feel that same intensity once during my leveling experience.

So by not fulfilling their promise, you actually meant “did not design the game exactly as I personally want it” rather than them making a promise and not keeping it?

I asked you a real question, was hoping you’d answer cordially. Have you, in all honesty, felt the same intensity, at any time, during your leveling experience, as you have when you first raided in any end-game experience.

I have little interest in raids.

If I did, I’d be in a raiding-heavy game.

I bought GW2 because I don’t want that. It lets me progress to the max level and tier of gear by whichever playstyle I choose rather than being forced to repeatedly grind raids to get geared up.

Then you don’t know what they promised.

Jestunhi.7429:

HTXL.2598:

Jestunhi, surely you jest.

You remember the time first time you ever raided? I do. It was in Rift, a great game btw, despite the opinions here.

Though entertained with GW2, I have yet to feel that same intensity once during my leveling experience.

So by not fulfilling their promise, you actually meant “did not design the game exactly as I personally want it” rather than them making a promise and not keeping it?

I asked you a real question, was hoping you’d answer cordially. Have you, in all honesty, felt the same intensity, at any time, during your leveling experience, as you have when you first raided in any end-game experience.

Jestunhi, surely you jest.

You remember the time first time you ever raided? I do. It was in Rift, a great game btw, despite the opinions here.

Though entertained with GW2, I have yet to feel that same intensity once during my leveling experience.