Guild Wars 2

Havent played for a loooong time.. and getting back and seeing stuff like this makes me happy about GW2 community =)

Thanks for the replies! Will give it another shot this weekend and hope i can get into playing it.. and yah the 1 spamm aint fun i like to have more to do hehe..

Hello..

I tried making a more tanky engi with pvt gear and was aiming to run a 30/0/10/20/10
Plan was to run bomb kit + tool kit and thought the explosion damage would be a good thing when going straight in against huge numbers with the guild but it got really boring fast since mainly auto on bomb is what is most beneficial. So just asking if anyone has some good suggestion.? I am a melee player and prefer That otherwise i just need to get a condi set i guess

If only they could make spirits more vaible in gvg and big organised fights in wvw…

Xsorus.2507:

Stomping fast isn’t the problem.

Its the complete lack of Stability outside of an elite or 30 points in Marksman

Agree

Wolf.5816:

Once you know your way around Static Discharge, I wouldn’t underestimate Blood Lust either. After a few kills 25 stacks is easy and compliments the bursty nature of this build very well.

Doesnt everyone have 1 stacking weapon and 1 main weapon? Atleast thats how i always roll.. also about fire sigil, afaik the major one does same damage but has 10% lesser chance to procc so with decent critchance i wouldnt go with the superior one with current price… personally go below 30% critchance so always use major

Agree that retal is a broken mechanic.. been saying this since day 1.. and playing age of conan from early access untill just 2-3 months before gw2 release i know what Caid ment. Thats a good example of a bad mechanic. Anyone not knoeing what i mean just search conq retal on youtube and youll see.. loving this matchup tho and yes guardians cant really avoid retal , specially with hammer :P

Malvado.1460:

Hey guys again thank you for the replies,
But lets not get too much off topic this not a poll on which class is better.
Yes decided to give it a second shot tbh it’s the only class I like, yes I know the hgh p/p from Maskaganda.2043 and from many other variants of that build, still that’s not what I’m looking for, used to run with blobs (mainly in front of them, that would make me a “semi-tanky-melee-n-supporter”) in wvw not roaming, examples: in zvz my attack position would be at the warrior/guardian side tagging the most opponents in line until I got stunned/locked, then poped my breaker followed by using elixir gun jump back, leaving some fields to support the rest, then straight back into the front line.
This is just a poor scratched example but gives a picture of what i cant do anymore.
Been cursed for loving only this class and only like the builds that get nerfed.. <.<
I just don’t know how to replace the damage absorption 2 invulnerable(s) could do.
These same skills are still there, but maybe they need to be used differently. But how?
Also i just don’t want to go back to being the ranged p/p that’s stays on the back..
That is why some kind of bomb build will be more of what I’m looking for.
@ tsubus.8761 : Your build sounds nice I like the runes of vampirism and most .. the but is .. you have got huge power but no preci/crit to back it up neither the condition cap to make it viable (just my view)
What do you think of : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqel0pqbH5SfF87IxoHdW0bGUBAL6R+rsjB-jEyAorgQfAJQAZvioxWOLiGruGT7SEVbwLiWtQAs2AA-w

This is more or less what I am used to, took off some power and putted it into vita.

Been following this post and finally you wrote what i wanted to read. That is exactly how i want to plqy my engineer.. frontliner with good damage.. working on a build involving bombs but cant seem to get it to work very well.. i want power build no condition damage stacking, im bored of that

Rather put them in few tiers:

T1:
Guardian
Ele

T2:
Mesmer
Necro
Ranger
Warrior

T3:
Thief
Engi

Looking at scale of 15+ vs 15+

Mind posting a pic? Really wanna see it

this just gets more and more entertaining.. Have some good fights instead and let this thread die =)

Walorx.5129:

Hjulstad.6317:

JubeiTM.5763:

Hjulstad.6317:

Hope i dont steal your thread now op but wanna ask few questions aswell..

I am trying engi now and i want to run it mainly wvw.. i got 2 questions tho.

1: is ther any viable melee specc for engi?
2: is conditions the only way to go?

Still tryibg to find a proffession that fits my style 100% but only have necro and engi left that aint 80. Engi is 35 btw mainly leveled in wvw

1. There is no ONLY-melee for engi. The tool kit wrench hit deals very good damage but it’s not sustainable in a fight. However, many people consider the Flamethrower being a melee weapon. It’s range is only 425. Combined with a pistol + shield it rolls almost like a melee fight.

2. Condition based engineers are strong but it’s defensively NOT the only way to go. STATIC DISCHARGE. This is one of the builds that work really grat if you use full berserker items and. I often turn to it because is so much fun and the damage burst is outrageous. Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFKYaD3lrM

Looks very interesting especially for trolling in wvw hehe. But might not work that good for large scale fights going 20 vs 50 for example.. tried bombs but not really efficient in zerg hunting( but thanks alot for the response

Hey dude, what’s shakin! I’m actually the creator of that build and video and I can assure you that this spec works wonders in WvW Zerg fights. The static discharges, as you saw, bounce off targets multiple times with a large amount of damage! With one rotation, and being properly specced, you can down about 4-6 people! I once ran this spec with 19 other engineers using the same build and we instantly killed a 50+ man Zerg!

Hey! Nice of you to come here and show yourself) As of right now my engi is only 50 and ofc not the best to try this on.. but i am affraid i need to give up to much support/survival to run this.. and my biggest problem with this is i love being in the melee train.. frontliner for the win.. but ofc will give it a try)

JubeiTM.5763:

Hjulstad.6317:

Hope i dont steal your thread now op but wanna ask few questions aswell..

I am trying engi now and i want to run it mainly wvw.. i got 2 questions tho.

1: is ther any viable melee specc for engi?
2: is conditions the only way to go?

Still tryibg to find a proffession that fits my style 100% but only have necro and engi left that aint 80. Engi is 35 btw mainly leveled in wvw

1. There is no ONLY-melee for engi. The tool kit wrench hit deals very good damage but it’s not sustainable in a fight. However, many people consider the Flamethrower being a melee weapon. It’s range is only 425. Combined with a pistol + shield it rolls almost like a melee fight.

2. Condition based engineers are strong but it’s defensively NOT the only way to go. STATIC DISCHARGE. This is one of the builds that work really grat if you use full berserker items and. I often turn to it because is so much fun and the damage burst is outrageous. Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFKYaD3lrM

Looks very interesting especially for trolling in wvw hehe. But might not work that good for large scale fights going 20 vs 50 for example.. tried bombs but not really efficient in zerg hunting( but thanks alot for the response

Hope i dont steal your thread now op but wanna ask few questions aswell..

I am trying engi now and i want to run it mainly wvw.. i got 2 questions tho.

1: is ther any viable melee specc for engi?
2: is conditions the only way to go?

Still tryibg to find a proffession that fits my style 100% but only have necro and engi left that aint 80. Engi is 35 btw mainly leveled in wvw

This sounds very good) just need to get 2 more ranks and I will apply) hard to find something that is not hardcore.. hard with kids and a demanding real life) this might even keep me in spvp some more since soloque is getting more and more frustrating

Running with guild group chasing enemies yesterday i got 100badges in about 2hours.. and it would be higher if it wasnt for the kitten lack of enemies in every zone.

Tip is to go with guild or if they dont like wvw then follow a commander that actually wants to pvp and not just pvdoor

Ppl should stop whining that the reward is little when its so much more then we had before… this community is getting worse and worse.. chests are a great thing for ppl who only do wvw since it adds some money to the stuff you like to do.. and if you rather do pve then plz do so cause less ques for the ppl who actually do wvw for the fights.

Very nice write up

Its all gooood.. soon a new week and maybe we get a server who actually likes pvp again)

Troll or real? Hard to know.. check the top with the stickied guides and you might find what you are looking for.

Gaidax.7835:

I also was skeptical about staff, but it proved to be fantastic in 1vX fights and against Rogues in WvW. Damage is not really the point there, it has some amazing defense options.

I still use GS, S/P phantasm build, which suits my playstyle more, but when I run shatter – I always pack Staff.

Ofc, staff is a great weapon no doubt.. but as you say not rwally for the damage but for utilitie and boons..

Menaka.5092:

Hjulstad.6317:

Menaka.5092:

I’m experimenting with a chaos 20, inspiration 20, illusions 30 frontline shatter build with power/vit/tough gear, melandru runes, berserker weapons (gs, s/f) and jewels and (drum roll) mantra of concentration(!!), mirror images and feedback.

It doesn’t really work, at least not in unorganized ZvZ. Of course I kill people, but I can’t run trough a zerg like a warrior or guardian

Thats almost exact whar i run hehe.. but swap mirror for blink, blink imo is an awesome gtfo skill when it gets to hot.. and i run with ascended cavallier neck and exotic knight rings and valk access.. works great

Ahhh TUPs, I love (hate, really: speaking from Gandara) your zergs, so organized and well packed. I made this build for a similar environment, but I should really join a big guild to try it out for good.

And yes, I miss my blink (played with that since almost the start), maybe I’ll try sacrificing mirror images to get it back

Hehe wouldnt call it a zerg but hey we all have our own opinion about what that is… Never run more then 25 the times ive been online atleast.. Usually between 17-20 or something..

Enough about that

Concerning staff: I CANT like that weapon.. and being a full meleer as i am i dont have room for it :P Worth noting is I have yet to have any other class then thief that has a ranged weapon equipped cause i simply wanna be in the action not around it .. So thats why I cant use a staff really :P I dont wanna get stuff those seconds cd that weaponswap is with a staff in my hand hehe..

Best tip from me is try finding a good balance of stats.. Im stiff trying to figure it out myself but getting closer atleast :P since i lack on-demand condition removal i run lemongrass+melandru runes so the conditions come off pretty fast atleast.. I wouldnt go under 2,5k armor or 19k HP tho.. Those are my personal limits atm atleast.. Soldier gear is nice power on and the trinkets you can fool around with.. =)

Menaka.5092:

I’m experimenting with a chaos 20, inspiration 20, illusions 30 frontline shatter build with power/vit/tough gear, melandru runes, berserker weapons (gs, s/f) and jewels and (drum roll) mantra of concentration(!!), mirror images and feedback.

It doesn’t really work, at least not in unorganized ZvZ. Of course I kill people, but I can’t run trough a zerg like a warrior or guardian

Thats almost exact whar i run hehe.. but swap mirror for blink, blink imo is an awesome gtfo skill when it gets to hot.. and i run with ascended cavallier neck and exotic knight rings and valk access.. works great

Archer.1658:

Shatter, front line. People get scared when the clones blow up in their faces. It’s a lot more fun than sitting in the back playing glamour.

Same here.. full frontline with shatter and a touch of reflection

Ppl who think that the proffession they choose wont change with time really shouldnt play MMOs :P hehe.. ofc it sucks sometimes.. but usually it just needs some getting used to..)

Curious about all the proffession changes

Just hope i can enjoy this patch abit this evening.. time is 15:46 here atm and usually patch hits at 20-21 or something so maybe 4-5 hours more… really wanna see the full patchnotes and not just the things.mentioned in SOTG from guru…

Lanny.6987:

While I understand your reluctance to use the staff it does complement the melee side of sword surprisingly well. When you have everything on the sword/x on cooldown swap to staff. Chaos Storm, staff #2 for the clone and a chaos aura, staff #3 for phantasm, dodge back into Chaos Storm to grab a boon or two and get another clone (if spec-ed for that). Let the phantasm take its shot, shatter, staff #4 for chaos aura, wait the 1/2 sec for staff #2 and weapon-swap cooldown and back to sword. You now have a clone already out, chaos aura is up, you’ve shattered them (I like confusion in that sequence) and you are ready to restart your sword/x pattern. The staff is a melee weapon if you treat it like one.

Now this is a nice answer =)) I tested it some more today.. And Im starting to feel that sword offhand aint the best thing =( Focus has the pull.. but sword has nothing special =( Will go more staff tomorrow =)

Sebrent.3625:

For #1: we just have to wait.

For #2: have you looked at that tanky all-soldiers greatsword power ranger build I posted? I’ve have some great success with it in high level fractals (20s).

For #3: Traps, Pet bomb, muddy terrain, barrage, piercing arrows, bouncing axes, entangle, invulnerable melee monster ranger with stability. There are multiple ways to do it, you just need to find the one you like.

I do have to admit here (have already elsewhere) that random PuG zergs are where Ranger is the least fun in WvW; at least to me.

I have checked the power build yes.. But what I really dont like is that in order to get stability without swapping out entagle you need 30 points in the power tree where most of the traits are useless.. You pick up signet use affects you and the lower CD on signets.. But cant take the 10% damage when endurance is full since dodge is vital to stay alive..

But, that leaves you with a 72seconds cd (iirc) on the stability and thats about it..

Dont get me wrong it works.. BUT with that huge CD compared to uptime it really doesnt make you any usefull and mostly feels like a waste of points…

I think I explained myself badly.. I dont mean its terribad, but haveing a hard time finding “my” proffession in this game ive played all classes but the Necro and Engi.. And I think maybe its cause I dont like pets but only GS class with medium armor that is available is ranger so really want it to be “my” proffession..

You can make anything work.. but in the end it feels kinda bad when you know that when it works 100% for you it still can be better done by some other class.. I am an upfront meleer and no i dont pug, only run organized with my guild and go for greater numbers ..

Ranger is by far one of the most classes in GW2, but it needs some fixing for wvw mass fights since pets die to fast and spirits die even faster..
Giving a option to put away pet for a 10% damage boost would fix a huuuuge problem atleast for me..

ofc this is just my pov and anyone liking the gameplay of trapper or deep pet specc or even piercing arrows will not agreee.. But I know they are great, and that ranger is great for roaming with a pet build but if OP was to be after the same style i like then I am just pointing out what i thnk is wrong ..

I really love playing the ranger too… mostly cuase the GS is my kind of playstyle.. but there is 3 things making me feel bad playing it when running with the guild in wvw..

1: the pet (bet you didnt see that coming eh?!) : it dies within seconds. So there the class specific ability and a good ammount of my damage is gone…

2: the lack of viable mass pvp melee builds.. you can go trapper and melee but thats about it, rest is jusr a waste imo..

3: lack of good utilities for mass pvp.. i know traps and muddy terrain are awesome but they are niether complex enough nor fun to use.. i only use them to get easy tags and some extra dps even if i run no condition gear..

I just want them to fix spirits and a better source of stability.. but thats just dreams..

Unfortunatly spirits suck atm.. traps give about the same effect but they dont die in 2 sec like spirits and have shorter CD.. I had to test it for myself since i always go full melee and spirits could work so kitten goooood with melee if they had a overhaul.. but atm they are completely useless…

Done some testing and i really do love the sword mainhand and having a hard time not using it in the 2nd set aswell cause the other mainhands dont interest me ar all and i really want the sword and focus offhand cause they are both awesome in their own way..

Just a question.. i thought about this just now as i remember ppl talking about it before.. does confusion tag ppl? I mean for example if i have illusions give confusion to enemies when killed, would that work for tagging in wvw and pve.. ?

Sannhet.8745:

Dawdler.8521:

GvG and ZvZ? No such things in GW2.

News to me. RG and all us wannabe RGs have just been making machinima videos to fool the masses then eh?

Dont feed the troll

Thanks for all the replies.. and yes i wanna melee and yes i hate ranged combat Will try some weaponsets out and see what fits me the best.. tried sword-sword coupled with sword-focus yesterday and it actually felt really good.. abit cc on focus and with sword trait the cds werent that long tbh..)

Thank you so much for your answers =)

Yes I will definatly give it a try..

Thing is I always run with my guild in WvW.. and we are usually 20-25ppl at max and I always hated ranged gameplay , just love being in the mid of the battle and ofc surviving by active evades and defensive skills..

I have a few things worrying me however.. one of them being the conditions.. I know on my ranger I wear Melandru Runes + Lemongrass soup and still have abit problem with conditions, not alot but some .. Any trick to share when it comes to conditions on mesmer?

What do you think is a viable 2nd set? I am abit caught between staff and a Sword/Focus ? Any good input on it? I will be almost 100% in melee with the enemy so the range has minor impact tbh..

When i thought i checked it all i red the shattercat heavy again and sounds like what im after so will give that a go..

Hey!

Ive played gw2 since the beta began and have had a tough time to find a proffession i really like. Started out with a guardian for a loooong time and now i have ele ranger warrior thief at 80 with ful exotics but i just cant seem to find anything that i really enjoy..

I have leveled a mesmer to 50 and im enjoying it but i would really like to know if what km going for is at all viable..

The thing i aim for is full pvt gear for survivability and using a mainhand sword and maybe even an offhand.. Direct damage is my kind of thing.. i am just affraid that this wouldnt work well in the frontlines of zvz and gvg.
Ive seen alot of confusion builds in gvg ans zvz but not many direct damage builds so ofc affraid it wont work.

Anyone here have some experience to share? Ive watched the build thread that is stickied numerous times but having a dialogue with someone who actually uses it would be alot of help.

kingbread.6174:

Does anyone know why certain rare weapons sell for 1g+
EG: Dagger, Greatsword,….

They are just called by their weapon type

Afaik those are the rares dropped from fractals and reason might be because they are not
As common as other rares aswell as ppl might think the chances of getting a precursor from the forge are higher with those rares

I would love to see spirits more viable for wvw.. i am a 100% melee player and What i Think could be a solution is this:

1: make spirits move by default.
2: Give spirits more toughnes and vitality.
3: Change spirits trait to be able to move with Each spirit giving a certain buff. For example one giving 10% less damage taken. And one could Give a damage increase by maybe 5-10%.
4: Make spirit activation skills either like traps that can be traited For ground targeting or so you can send them on your target. .

And 1 Off-topic thing since John Might read this: Give us a trait that gives a damage bonus of 5-10% for stowing your pet.

This way you have a chance to choose from alot of other builds then we Currently have.. spirits would be used as buffers and with a reasonable cd on their skills you would need to choose wisely about when to use them. .

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Personally I think of my gs ranger as an assassin, so I like skins with more realistic blades (smaller and narrow) I use the skybringer, tribal, kymswarden, t3 sylvari, and basic (white) skin. I actually really like the basic skin because no one else uses it, and it looks very fitting on my ranger. It’s like a precise needle.

What hood is that you are using ? Looks really Good

Question is.. why do Anet Force us PvPers to get 100% on pve maps to be able to get a legendary. . And then theres the dungeons…. PvEers cry to much when its the PvPers who are forced 95% of the time

Decided to Gamble abit yesterday so bought 4 lvl 76 exotic axes and threw Into the forge. . Boom i saw a skinn i never seen before and i realised i actually got the frostfang precursor) to bad it wasnt dusk or Dawn or i might have given it a thought to actually make a legendary

Seetoo.9316:

I’m 3000 units away from the fight (much farther if my ballista is high enough). That makes empathic bond or bark skin kinda useless.

My unsure points would be
- 10 in skirmishing for the bleed on crit (siege can’t crit right?)
- sword for main hand because sword 3 just refuses to hit for me (but I really want sword 2 for the mobility)

All melee weapons and you should have bark skin.

But If ballista is all you wanna use traits Dont really matter.

@op

Build looks decent. . Tho some of the traits could be changed for something Else.. like offhand training switcheed for something more useful. . Typing from phone now so cant check Everything but try the build and the just play around some with it

No Walking.6349:

You put a ranger into WvW without any ranged weapons….there is nothing else to say…

/thread

Congratulations.. you just made the answer of the year. . Here, take a cookie and Milk…

Congratulations.. you just made the answer of the year. . Here, take a cookie and Milk…Ranged is booring and melee is fun and Challenging. . I run all my characters without ranged in wvw and its nog problem..

You Dont use lvl 400 mats for Leveling crafting

Seras.5702:

Out of curiosity, which are the cheapest & easiest crafts to get 1-400?

I’ve done cooking in a single go once and it was pretty inexpensive (2g + what was in my bank at the time).

Just did 1-300 JC and that was pretty cheap, though I hear 300-400 gets pricey with all the mythril needed.

Artificing was fast & easy but dust prices tend to make buying all the mats on the TP pricey. I’m not rich. Got about 14g total across all toons.

Any others you recommend?

I Hate levelng. I have 4 80s and Only 1 was leveled the normal way. . Leveling Another char atm but this time i will try to make it cheap..

Those 3 are the cheapest and then the rest are pretty much all the same in costs. .

If you are like me and just want your character to 80 for WVW then i suggest you do all crafts and get to 80.. or you run some AC explorable runs for the tokens xp and Gold.. depends on your Money and on how much materials you got in bank.. i bought all mats for armorsmith today and it got to about 7g, but i had alot of stuff + i will get Money back from the yellows. ..

Contested on Aurora Glade.. Need uncontested aswell

It sounds really nice.. Im gonna give it a shot! Im so bored with Guardian Warrior and Ele atm its insane =(

Been thinking about get a condition set for my thief ever since i created it but was always affraid that dd condition build would lack to much damage in wvw.. How much does your bleeds tick for *? And do you feel that you actually Bring anything to the table in 20+vsXX ? Been playing S/D with pvt gear with Ruby orbs and also went D/D with same gear for abit..

Or you could just browse the 10+ threads with builds on this forum.. just love the lazyness of ppl. ..