Guild Wars 2

maybe somehow Rytlock becomes the Khan-Ur?

and thus, the King of Ascalon (current)?

that’d be a little rushed, I’d think though. I wouldn’t mind him being Khan-Ur, it’s a natural progression storywise, but I’d like to see it made into a bigger, player-involved event. not just “bam, 2 weeks later he’s Khan-Ur”

Thuggernaut.1250:

Of course, here come the white knights to ride to Anet’s rescue.

funny to me how anyone who disagrees with you is a “white knight.”

the people who use that “defense” often are just kitten that people aren’t worshipping them for their incredibly insightful thoughts.

smh @ people whose gaming experience begins with the xbox 360.

re: Rytlock

the Human legends state that if EITHER sword, Sohothin or Magdaer are returned to Ascalon, in the hands of the True King of Ascalon, the curse will be lifted. not just Magdaer.

I’m assuming that Rytlock never really knew of this, in regards to his sword, Sohothin. He just saw it as a trophy that symbolized the Charr’s ultimate victory over Ascalon.

perhaps he’s giving Sohothin back to Adelbern, since Magdaer is broken?

I’m wondering how this is gonna work.

cause Rytlock ain’t the True King of Ascalon.

seems like he’s giving Sohothin back to Adelbern?

there’s the trailer for the next LS update.

and some talky about it:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07/22/flameseeker-chronicles-introducing-guild-wars-2s-dragons-reac/#continued

that’s an interview with Anet’s Steven Waller

I was going to make my own thread, but i guess i’ll just ask here.

just started a necro (doing my “try every class to find a main” thing), and I’m liking the Axe/Focus combination. I think that would be my primary weapon set in the long run. They seem to be a Power-based weaponset, so I’d lean in that direction.

thinking about my second weapon set. I’m pretty much set on Dagger being my mainhand. I’m just not sure what to put in my offhand, another Dagger, or a Warhorn.

thoughts on this, from a Power Necro(that uses DS as more than just a second healthbar) perspective?

and one more thing, do Power Necros care particularly about Crit, or do they typically focus more on Vit/Toughness to go with straight Power?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Grim_Cesta_(gauntlet).jpg

This Focus needs to be a thing, in GW2.

Please?

Pretty Pixie.8603:

We welcome JMad to the guild!

that would be me.

/roar Charr need no Gods!

+1 please do this.

in Smokestead, 3 Charr are sitting around a roasting spit:

Iron Legion Soldier: Is it done yet, boss?
Blood Legion Soldier: No. Stop asking, or you’re next on the spit.
Ash Legion Soldier: I’m gonna be old, and my teeth are gonna fall off before this boar is done.
Blood Legion Soldier: More for me.
Iron Legion Soldier: I don’t know. I say it needs some more sauce.
Ash Legion Soldier: Take it off the fire. It’s done. I’m starving.
Blood Legion Soldier: It ain’t done. Shut up. I’ll tell you when it’s done.

no.

/15characters

this is my favorite ambient conversation in the entire game, so far.

that, and the Charr kids in Lions Arch pretending to be Destiny’s Edge.

“I’m Logan, and I’m gonna run away!”

DJRiful.3749:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Maybe when GW2 goes subscription, they will mention it in the article. /shrug

TERA, RIFT, SWTOR are F2P anyways, they do have sub but optional.

SWTOR’s sub is Optional In Name Only.

sure it’s “free” but their F2P restrictions are so ridiculous that there is almost literally no point in playing SWTOR without a subscription.

still happening.

black character select screen. freezes my entire computer.

I got home from work and downloaded whatever the new build was.

Tried to log in, Character select never fully loads.

I see my Character’s names. the area where the character usually shows up is completely black. no music or sound.

then the game freezes, and the only way to get out of it is to shut down my computer and reboot.

I’ve been trying to log in for about an hour and a half now. making this post, and going to bed.

I played fine earlier today before work. but now it does not load correctly. every other game on my computer runs just fine, and I have no issues with internet access. the only thing that does not run is Guild Wars 2.

Im Mudbone.1437:

HO-HUM, just an UN-CLEVER way to force another mounts thread into the forums. {:-þ

yep.

stealth mounts thread, this is.

so is the game still being attacked?

I can’t log in, and the only thing on my computer that does not work properly is GW2.

all my other games work, and my internet access is fine.

but when I try to run GW2, my computer freezes at the log in screen, and i have to reboot my computer.

I look at all the benefits of using a Shield and wow, it’s pretty kitten awesome.

but then I equip a Shield.

and then I look at my character, with the Shield hovering 5 feet off of my character’s back.

and then I go to attack something, and I see the Shield hovering 5 feet in front of my character’s arm.

and then I unequip the shield and equip another pistol.

bleh.

help. I can’t get past this heh.

yeah yeah I know “racial skills suck, subpar, yadda yadda.”

theoretically, I’m asking, which Classes best fit each Race’s skills, thematically and functionally. which Classes would (if all skills were completely equal) make the best use of a particular race’s race-exclusive skills?

this is more of a “just for fun” question, and not a PUG Meta question.

Honestly, I don’t think they are too terribly bad. I’d rather see Race-specific Turret skins and/or new Rifle skills first.

but I’ll donate a bump for the cause anyway, for solidarity’s sake.

Engys gotta stick together, right?

Purple Miku.7032:

Yeah no offense but if there’s one thing that drives me nuts the most when in pug groups it’s seeing + hearing a rifle warrior. That and seeing either banner of tactics or banner of defense.

It’s a good thing you’re prepared for the kicking because it’s probably going to happen a lot if you use ranged weapons often

it’s a good thing I’ll likely never PUG if I can help it.

and also, there is no rule that says I have to stand at 1200 and never move just because I am using a Rifle.

Frostroses.4196:

Purple Miku.7032:

Yeah no offense but if there’s one thing that drives me nuts the most when in pug groups it’s seeing + hearing a rifle warrior. That and seeing either banner of tactics or banner of defense.

It’s a good thing you’re prepared for the kicking because it’s probably going to happen a lot if you use ranged weapons often

The only ranged weapon that deals insanely high damage is staff on an elementalist. In just about any circumstance, melee weapons will always be ideal.

Never kick/kicked/being raged on upon using rifle as backup, must be one of those elitist “hardcore” then.

I use a GS main weapon, and rifle as a backup for quite a bit now, i don’t see a combination of melee+melee as a good thing in every case i ever faced. And for people like me, many recommend long bow instead, they have better dps (is what most said), it’s just i don’t like bow, they sound less powerful, not to mention i play the game for the fun, not for the uber number of dps.

Important note here, i don’t trait my warrior for rifle at all, all trait is for the benefit of GS since i only use them when dungeon boss moving a lot, or chasing down running player.

well to be fair, I am using Rifle as my primary weapon.

this thread was for considering a secondary weapon to complement the Rifle.

at this point, I’ve got an Engy up to right about where my Warrior is level-wise, and I’m trying to decide between the two which one I will main. Rifle Warrior, or Dual Pistol Engy. both are fun, in different ways, but if i don’t focus on one, i’ll never get to 80 lol. my guild is awesome and not full of kitteny folks, and they say play what I want, so that makes the decision a little tougher heh.

Ayrilana.1396:

Makes me want to go back to console games.

can’t wait for MMOs to get a decent foothold on Consoles.

How much damage do I lose from Prybar if I have a P/P Condition build and use the Toolkit?

I am debating between a P/P Condition set up, and a Rifle Power set up, for general usage (will adjust obviously for the situation), but I really like the Toolkit and want to make frequent usage of it in whatever skillset combinations I decide to use.

my worry is that if I use a Condition Build, I won’t get the full use out of the Prybar’s damage.

thoughts?

Note: I don’t like Grenades/Bombs and the Shield just…..I can’t stand the hovering. yes, i know it shouldn’t matter and I should min/max everything to the 5th decimal place for pure damage, but I just can’t stand looking at my character with a Shield on, and the Grenades/Bombs just aren’t fun for me. I like the Tool Kit, I like the Elixir Gun. Flamethrower is ok, i could live with or without it. Rocket Boots are fun.

Derigar.7810:

Honestly, how many of you would’ve rather seen an expansion pack?

Living story gives us:
- Free updates
- Every 2 or so weeks
- Small amount of content

An expansion pack gives us
- Paid update
- All updates in one big batch
- Massive amount of content

Now, I don’t want to sound like an ungrateful person, but I’d rather have paid for an expansion pack.

If Anet came out tomorrow and said “we’re scrapping the entire Living Story concept and we are going to release an expansion in 2015”, all the Expansion chanters would be here complaining about having to wait 10 months for new content, instead of celebrating getting what they want.

someone asking about Anet possibly adding something to the game?

wait wait, I know the answer to this.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Then GO PLAY WoW!!!

/eyeroll

Im Mudbone.1437:

Then GO PLAY WoW!!!

No.

People always say that Housing is a waste of time in a MMO. until their MMO gets Housing announced, then the tune changes. inevitably.

for example, it happened in WoW for years, and years, any mention of Housing was ridiculed. Now everyone can’t wait for Garrisons.

Housing is now a fairly standard feature of Modern MMORPGs. a good amount of them are now launching with housing from day 1, while the rest are playing catch up by implementing their Housing systems.

GW2 WILL have housing. eventually. Whenever ANet gets around to it. You can whine and moan and say it is a waste of time, or whatever, but eventually, at some point in GW2’s lifespan, Housing will be announced and introduced. and all of us will be excited for it. all the people screaming “WAAAAH ITS A WASTE OF TIME” now will then be making thread after thread full of Ideas to make Housing better.

However, repeatedly making threads begging for it won’t speed up the process. We’ll know when Housing is coming, when Anet announces it. and not a moment sooner.

Personally, I don’t necessarily want Personal Housing. I just would like to see Guild Halls, and that’s it. FFXIV’s housing system has the player having a personal room inside the Guild Hall. That is more along the lines of what I would want.

GW2 has far more important issues for ANet to deal with though.

lordkrall.7241:

Maybe this is a good reason why they should never do any more lore interviews, or even talk about anything in the game outside of previews of content?

Agreed.

and I’m not being sarcastic this time.

if anything said in an interview is set in stone and can never, ever, ever, ever, be changed ever…then it is honestly better to never say anything at all.

jheryn.8390:

Yet you continue to argue. And continue to miss the point.

Apparently you cannot focus on the bigger picture and continue to fixate on the singular instance of the date of Scarlet’s birth instead of what such changes represent.

the change represents what is a standard procedure in Video Games as a whole. What happens in The Game supercedes what was said in an Interview years ago. What happens in the Game supercedes what happened in a Book or a Short Story. If the Dev sees fit to change an Interview detail through an In-Game event, then that is their prerogative. This does not mean that everything should automatically be thrown out just because they changed something.

Things change, what matters is WHAT changed, how OFTEN things change, and how much of an effect on the Game Lore it has. and in this, it is you all who cannot see the bigger picture.

I don’t understand the overreactions here. Out Of Game Lore being able to be contradicted by InGame Lore was ALWAYS a possibility. This isn’t new. and it doesn’t mean that ALL the lore is going to be changed. Just that it COULD be.

but you are correct. I continue to argue. and I shouldn’t.

You all have fun with your tantrums about out of game Lore being able to be changed, even though ingame Lore has and will always supercede out-of-game Lore. Because that is how Lore in Video Games works.

RedStar.4218:

JMadFour.9730:

again, le sigh.

And again you can’t explain their reasoning aside from “It’s Anet, they can do whatever they want”.

I don’t know Anets reasoning, because I don’t work for Anet.

However, I do know that this isn’t a new development. The hierarchy of Lore is pretty constant in every video game. what happens in the Game supercedes all. Doesnt mean that nothing else matters, only that the Game matters more.

RedStar.4218:

JMadFour.9730:

it’s still logical. every single piece of GW lore wasn’t deleted because Scarlet was born in 1304.

but it’s no use arguing with you guys about it. if you think that all the GW Lore is deleted, and doesn’t matter, and never happened, because Scarlet is older than you thought, then so be it.

le sigh.

Of course it’s still logical. After saying Ree and any other out of game sources can’t be trusted.

again, le sigh.

therapite.3645:

What I don’t understand is how you adopt an attitude of ‘it only counts if it’s in the game’ when you publish written pieces out of the game itself and consider them backstory or fluff. That’s entirely inconsistent.

that’s not the attitude they are adopting.

Game Lore trumps books and Interviews, but that DOES NOT mean that the Books and Interviews don’t exist or “count”.

Books and Interviews are Canon, unless the Game contradicts them.

The hierarchy of Lore is Game > Fiction > Interviews. Meaning everything is important and “counts” but somethings are more important that others. In-Game Events are more Important than what happens in the Books. what happens in the Books is more important than what was said in the Interview.

I don’t see what is so hard to understand about this.

what this boils down to, is that Loreheads over in the Lore section are throwing a temper tantrum because during a discussion about Scarlet Briar’s age being changed, a ANet dev came by and said “What happens in the Game takes precedence over what was said in an Interview.” Which is standard procedure for any MMORPGs lore, and something that should have been understood by all.

Game > Books > Interviews. that is the lore Priority of pretty much ANY GAME EVER MADE WITH LORE. Things said in interviews are Canon, UNLESS the Game says it isn’t. If the Game does not say “no that’s wrong”, then it can be considered Canon.

so according to the Lore Forum, every single piece of out-of-game lore doesn’t exist anymore because Anet COULD decide to retcon it in the future. Basically they are discovering for the first time that Santa Claus doesn’t exist and a Video Game’s in-game lore takes precedence over Out Of Game interviews.

RedStar.4218:

And all this because they decided Scarlet was born in 1304. Everything was logical if she was born in 1308 but nope, for some reason (I bet that the answer is “we couldn’t be bothered checking kitten”) she had to be born in 1304.

it’s still logical. every single piece of GW lore wasn’t deleted because Scarlet was born in 1304.

but it’s no use arguing with you guys about it. if you think that all the GW Lore is deleted, and doesn’t matter, and never happened, because Scarlet is older than you thought, then so be it.

le sigh.

so basically you want a world that never changes, ever.

with self-contained single-player side stories, that never have any effect on anything else in the game world.

I thought the point of the Living World was to be “Living” and for things that happen to show visible effects on the world, the characters within, and the Lore(i.e. when new details about something surfaces, it changes how the characters view it)

or am I misunderstanding?

my view on retconning is that it depends on the amount and severity of the retcon. constant retcons should never happen. Retcons should be few and far between. an occasional retcon is acceptable, so long as it does not change extremely major details. For example, if for some reason Anet decided that Snaff never really died, I’d rage about that. that is a major detail that affects pretty much EVERYTHING in Game’s Story, as it relates to Destiny’s Edge, which comprises the entire personal story, and the dungeon story arc.

a lot of folks around here equate changing a single, minor detail with completely throwing out every single solitary piece of lore that’s ever been written or spoken. I feel that is a very childish way to look at it, akin to a child raging after finding out that their Mother bought all those presents and not Santa Claus.

that’s my personal opinion, and I’m fine to be alone in it.

jheryn.8390:

One more thing. Why do we have a Lore & Story section at all if lore is “malleable”?

Shouldn’t we change it to “Stuff that May or May Not Have Happened” section?

no, this forum and everything in it should just be deleted, immediately.

nothing ever happened anyway, right?

kntz.1420:

Ok, let me explain.

Currently there are no sense in playing WxWxW.

What I am suggesting is that the WxWxW maps (only WxWxW maps) become extensions of PvE maps with new quests, new goals, trade, farms and housing with “real” and “total” open PvP where different guilds can compete (it doesn’t matter the source server) .

Alone or group players could choose factions (temporary or not) as well.

This means that WxWxW maps would allow PK: Player (s) vs. player (s), the real PvP, and no longer a zerg festival.

So, it is a good solution for GW2.

No.

There is no reason in this game to ever have open PVP in a PVE area. The only people who would ask for such a thing are scrubs who cant hack it in the PVP zones.

Ganking PVErs is what you are asking for, and thats not REAL pvp. Thats scrub PVP.

There is a dedicated PVP area. Use it and stop kittening about not being able to harvest PVE tears.

Ropechef.6192:

Funset.7893:

Because this game doesnt have healers. Its only dps.

that is incorrect.
Do please stop spreading misinformation

Not quite as incorrect as you want to claim.

The Zerker or GTFO meta is proof enough of this.

Engys should really get a Siege Kit, but that would be tough to balance.

I give up.

Guild Wars has no lore now.

GW1 never happened. Nothing in the books happened.

Everyone here should just quit playing and go play something where a single interview is more Canon than game events and is set in stone and unchangeable.

LoopySnoopy.7923:

Problem is I’ve learnt more about the Guild Wars universe from outside of the game and to be told that now none of the articals,manuscripts,interviews etc hold any weight…

but they DO hold weight. Unless the game directly contradicts them.

Sea of Sorrows happened. Edge of Destiny happened. Ghosts of Ascalon happened.

what has changed is that Scarlet is older then we thought she was. god they really need to move away from Scarlet with the LS.

Out-of-game Lore is canon until the Game says otherwise. The game has said that Scarlet is older. the Game has not said that everything else is non-canon.

Guhracie.3419:

Because the game doesn’t have a trinity system. Your support build is supposed to do damage as well. There’s no dedicated healing, just like there’s no dedicated tanking.

this is basically all that needs to be said.

RedStar.4218:

So if the game is priority, why the hell waste everyone’s time with interviews and short stories and books ?
What’s next Abaddon making a come back ?

Expanded Universe(which is short stories, books and interviews) ONLY sets lore when it does not contradict what is ingame.

It expands, adds to, what is in the game. But the Game itself is the prime source. it has to be.

Whenever the game makes a change that contradicts previous Expanded Universe content, the Game should take precedence.

GW1 is Prime Source.
GW2 is Prime Source.

everything else is EXTRA goodness.

my confusion with all the stomping and tantrum throwing, is that this is a MINOR change to be stomping and tantruming about. it is the age of a single character. changing this single character’s age does not invalidate every single piece of lore thre has ever been for Guild Wars. hell, it doesn’t really even invalidate anything at all.

yet you all are treating it as it they just said that the entirety of Guild Wars Prophecies didn’t happen.

I think you guys are making a Shiverpeak Mountain out of a Moledavia Molehill.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Oh I get what Konig is raging about alright, and he is right. To put things in perspective, he and many other people of the lore community have been dedicated for over 7 years to map out all of the Guild Wars lore. They have been thoroughly collecting and investigating lore from both inside and outside the game. And that’s a wealth of information. But what Bobby stated, basically means that we can pretty much chuck our beloved GW1 manuscripts in the privy.

So yes, I understand the anger and frustration. I love the old GW1 lore, and when I heard how the Bloodstones and the history of magic in Tyria basically got redconned, it angered me. It basically meant that my favorite bit of lore was now void, and could be crossed out.

And to be clear, I do enjoy Living Story season 2 so far, and I think the writing is good. But I like the established lore better. I don’t like it when established lore gets chucked in the garbage can. This is kind of insulting to the whole lore community, to think that all that they’ve been collecting has basically been a waste of their time (over 7 years).

he said nothing of the sort.

He said that the Game takes priority when two things contradict each other. that’s always been the case, and it will always be the case, and it is something everyone here should have already known, if you have any Gaming experience at all.

He didn’t say that the entirety of all GW lore that exists doesn’t exist anymore.

you all are reading that into what he actually said, so that you can throw a temper tantrum about Scarlet’s age.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Oh I get what Konig is raging about alright, and he is right. To put things in perspective, he and many other people of the lore community have been dedicated for over 7 years to map out all of the Guild Wars lore. They have been thoroughly collecting and investigating lore from both inside and outside the game. And that’s a wealth of information. But what Bobby stated, basically means that we can pretty much chuck our beloved GW1 manuscripts in the privy.

So yes, I understand the anger and frustration. I love the old GW1 lore, and when I heard how the Bloodstones and the history of magic in Tyria basically got redconned, it angered me. It basically meant that my favorite bit of lore was now void, and could be crossed out.

And to be clear, I do enjoy Living Story season 2 so far, and I think the writing is good. But I like the established lore better. I don’t like it when established lore gets chucked in the garbage can. This is kind of insulting to the whole lore community, to think that all that they’ve been collecting has basically been a waste of their time (over 7 years).

he said nothing of the sort.

He said that the Game takes priority when two things contradict each other. that’s always been the case, and it will always be the case, and it is something everyone here should have already known, if you have any Gaming experience at all. He shouldn’t have had to say this in the first place. It’s standard procedure.

He didn’t say that the entirety of all GW lore that exists doesn’t exist anymore.

you all are reading that into what he actually said, so that you can throw a temper tantrum about Scarlet’s age.

I’m sure I’m going to get raged at for this, but I’m gonna be that guy. I can take it.

I’m not understanding what Konig is rage-quitting about, in regards to changing the lore/retconning, in this particular instance. I’m not sure changing Scarlet’s age is something worth quitting the game for. it is a very, very minor detail in the grand scheme of things.

It’s always a general policy, that The Game > Everything else. Books, Interviews, Movies, TV Shows. This is universal, not specific to GW2. You all should know this already.

What happens in The Game always takes precedence over what happens in the Books/Interviews/whatever. When there is a conflict between something said out of game by a Developer, or something that takes place in a Book, and something that happens in the game, you always go with what happens in The Game. The Game is always the prime source of lore, and it always should be.

Just like Star Wars, anything that happens in the Movies takes precedence over anything that happens in a game or book, because the Movies are the prime source of lore.

You go with what is said in interviews and in books, until the Game contradicts it. Then you go with the Game. that is standard procedure for pretty much any MMORPG.

Game Lore > Book Lore > Interview Lore. always.

It is ANet’s job to make sure all three sources do not contradict, but if they deem that it works better ingame for something to be a certain way that contradicts an Interview, then that’s how it needs to be. And it is also ANet’s job to make sure that these contradictions/retcons are few and far between. We’ll just have to trust that this is the case, and there won’t be any mass retcons of everything.

we can be upset and rage about it now, but it won’t change, and we’ll adjust to it. Or we can move to another game, and then rage-quit there, when something that happened in a Book gets retconned by something that happens ingame.

I think everyone needs to have a coke and smile, and take a few deep breaths. the entirety of GW lore is not changing. just Scarlet’s age.

Basaltface.2786:

what i rather want to see is a “cannon kit”. Think about horrik from the fractals.

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/126473/horrik.jpg

1- Ranged auto attack with 1s cooldown, heavy impact damage with some aoe radius ( sorta like pistol 1 just way more powerfull, actually on par with the bomb kit´s 1) and a range of 1000

2- A straight path following slow moving projectile that hurts everything in its path (think asura megablasters from the crucible of eternity dungeon just not homing) per tick and can be detonated like flamer 2 but keeps on following its path slowly till it hits a wall or its 1200 range limit

3- A frontal knockback cleave or conic aoe with the cannon to get up to 3 annoying pests off your kitten .

4- a backwards cannon jump with some low to mediocre aoe damage from the jump itself (think acid bomb just no ticks) that leaves a 2-3 s combo field behind, blind would be pretty perfect for that

5- High damage ground targeted rather big aoe with fire field

toolbelt skill- adds confuse to the next 3 attacks with it

I think that would be more fitting and usefull. That way you got a ranged kit that can do some serios abuse.. but yea.. just my opinion

Ghostbore Cannon ftw.

Is it a matter of dual pistols CAN work with Power, but work BETTER with Condition damage?

or are the dual pistols just terrible with Power? I’m trying out an engineer and leaning towards dual pistols, cause I just don’t find the Engy rifle as fun as I find the Warrior one. I mean the Rifle isn’t BAD, it’s cool. It’s Just, I dunno…I can’t call it. the Rifle just seems awkward to me on an Engy somehow.

also, is it really an issue of Power OR Condition Damage? can you get both in decent amounts without sacrificing a mountain of damage?

last question(for now)…does Prybar still hit decently hard, in a Condition Damage based build?

however, to answer the OP’s question in a civil manner:

The only way to avoid the Megaserver is to play WvW or sPVP. as far as I know, the megaserver is not in effect there.

but in the game world itself, PVE areas, they are all on the megaserver, and you cannot avoid it.