… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.
Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.
Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.
Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true
1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.
1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?
But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.
DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?
EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.
1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^
To disregard DB’s rebuilding because of other servers falling apart is almost like if I were to say “It doesn’t mean anything that SoS was once the #1 server because the only reason they got there was because HoD fell apart and boosted SoS up in ranks”.
DB rebuilt because DB rebuilt.
Also, in case you haven’t noticed (I bet you have, SoS ;D), Paid Transfers haven’t really done anything to stop mass transfers. So I don’t see how that makes much of a difference.
It’s not the same broskii. HoD and ET falling down boosted just about everyone, but them solely falling down did not put us straight to #1. DB had their exodus first. For all you know, if those 4 servers didn’t fall down, DB wouldn’t be back where it was then you wouldn’t be able to claim your “delta = 0”.
@ your 3rd point, I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. So I’m just going to repeat myself. The difference is it is certain SoS will never be #1 again, and is probably certain that we won’t gain any significant transfers to make a difference (especially with paid transfers now) not to mention our “rise back” would have to happen within T2 & T1 where the competition is most likely significantly more challenging and competitive than from the tiers DB “rose back” from. DB received transfers (again as you have stated) and additional to that was aided by 4 servers falling below you in order for DB to be “delta = 0”. So far SoS has received no transfers since our exodus and no other mass exodus server has fallen below us. Alas, you cannot say DB has been the most successful “post exodus” server ;D
/end of discussion
I wasn’t the one who claimed Delta = 0.
Pay attention to who you’re talking to.
/end of discussion (See? Anyone can do that)
I was paying attention and I was going to put it as “so your friend can’t claim delta = 0” but I thought it is all relevant to just say you since I was quoting you and you are trying to argue why DB is the most successful “post exodus server” which is basically what this little argument is about.
And I guess if that is all you have to reply with then
GG.
Think before you engaged in an argument next time.
/Ended
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.
Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.
Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.
Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true
1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.
1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?
But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.
DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?
EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.
1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^
To disregard DB’s rebuilding because of other servers falling apart is almost like if I were to say “It doesn’t mean anything that SoS was once the #1 server because the only reason they got there was because HoD fell apart and boosted SoS up in ranks”.
DB rebuilt because DB rebuilt.
Also, in case you haven’t noticed (I bet you have, SoS ;D), Paid Transfers haven’t really done anything to stop mass transfers. So I don’t see how that makes much of a difference.
It’s not the same broskii. HoD and ET falling down boosted just about everyone, but them solely falling down did not put us straight to #1. DB had their exodus first. For all you know, if those 4 servers didn’t fall down, DB wouldn’t be back where it was then you wouldn’t be able to claim your “delta = 0”.
@ your 3rd point, I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. So I’m just going to repeat myself. The difference is it is certain SoS will never be #1 again, and is probably certain that we won’t gain any significant transfers to make a difference (especially with paid transfers now) not to mention our “rise back” would have to happen within T2 & T1 where the competition is most likely significantly more challenging and competitive than from the tiers DB “rose back” from. DB received transfers (again as you have stated) and additional to that was aided by 4 servers falling below you in order for DB to be “delta = 0”. So far SoS has received no transfers since our exodus and no other mass exodus server has fallen below us. Alas, you cannot say DB has been the most successful “post exodus” server ;D
/end of discussion
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.
Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.
Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.
Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true
1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI which happened after DB.
3. DB never been to T1.
1. I don’t think this is a competition about who had the bigger exodus.
2. No, DB rebuilt. People organized new guilds, we got new people playing WvW, we revitalized our morale, and we got a handful of guilds transfer in.
3. What does tier 1 have to do with anything?
But let’s look at this like it IS a contest, just for fun:
DB fell from the top ranked server in tier 3 to the bottom ranked server in tier 5.
SoS fell from the top of tier 1 to the top of tier 3.
And if you want to look at raw ranking spot drops, because numbers always help,
SoS went down 7 spots, DB went down 9.
DB couldn’t even rub 10 people together on their home BL during primetime after our exodus. SoS landed firmly at the top of tier 3 and is back to winning again after, what, three weeks? A month?
EDIT: In case my tone is unclear, this post is… let’s say “lighthearted”.
1. So then you know that SoS had a bigger exodus ;D
2. Yes, DB’s exodus happened in t3 while transfers were still free and as you stated, you gained a few guilds after your fall. Easier to have your rise amongst the lower tiers. SoS will never get back to the top of T1 and I don’t see any guilds wanting to transfer to us either. Also please don’t be ignorant. HoD, ET, IoJ, and SBI was a main factor seeing as they’ve fallen down the ranks resulting in DB being boosted up again.
3. ^
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
… So far we are the most successful post mass exodus server and the only qq ing I see here is from you.
Dragonbrand had its exodus officially at tier 3. It is now (consistently) tier 3. Delta = 0.
Sea of Sorrows had its exodus at tier 1. It is now tier 3. Delta = -2.
Obviously its been a lot more since DB fell, but from where I’m standing, that claim isn’t true
1. DB’s was probably no where near as big as SoS’s
2. The only reason DB is back up is because of real mass exodus like HoD, ET, IoJ and SBI falling down the ranks.
3. DB never been to T1.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
These guilds, with several others, were on SoS for almost 5 months. SoS did really well over that time in many ways, thanks especially to some of the people from work and atac. I was sad to see them go, but really for many GW2 is more about guild loyalty than server loyalty.
The only way JQ was going to be beaten was another server to be as stacked as they were. There seemed no way for SoS to do it, so several SoS people made a call and moved as a bloc to BG (with a few exceptions who went elsewhere, and the many who remain on SoS). I will be happy to see JQ beaten by my former SoS colleagues even if they are on BG or anywhere else.
The one thing to come from the SoS thing is that paid transfers don’t stop guilds moving. You will see more severs “imploding” (my bet is on JQ, but only a guess), and other servers becoming “stacked” (probably TC or FA but maybe even DB).
So while I think server loyalty is fine i think it is not useful to carry any bitterness to guilds who transfer. It is quite possible you will end up playing with or against them again. SoS has certainly been on both ends of it.
You failed to mention how these guilds ‘blamed’ tsym for SoS failing in WvW.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
The opposite,
DB was in a really good place for the first few weeks/first month after release and then we got hit with a guild exodus, like many other servers. With about half of those guilds leaving for SoS (I think the bulk of the rest of them went to Jade Quarry, but my memory isn’t what it used to be).
Then we, like many other servers, lost week after week until we fell down far enough to be competitive again and start rebuilding.
I have since forgotten all the guilds that left, except tsym, but that’s just a fluke of my memory more than anything.
/I/ consider it a friendly rivalry, but there seem to be others on DB out for blood.
If I’ve missed anything, anyone on DB who is sober more often than I am might be able to fill in the blanks. ;D
We had a really high win percentage on Dragonbrand while the 24 hour matches were going on. We did really well until we hit what was, I believe, tier 2. That match, Blackgate absolutely massacred us. We were bumped back down to tier 3, lost to Crystal Desert that week, and the major alliance of WvW guilds decided they had enough of losing (after just those losses).
They did some research and found that SoS was the unofficial Aussie server at the time. Combined with their fairly strong standing in their own tier 4, they decided to exodus to SoS in order to have guaranteed coverage overnight and theoretically have a strong all-around server. So they left, and the very next week SoS moved up to tier 3, where DB was slaughtered by former brothers-in-arms.
At one point in time I had made it a point to remember the guilds that abandoned us, just for a time like this. Sadly, the only one I can actually remember is Tsym because of a few fuzzy memories where I fought their zerg by myself at keeps that week. So while I would like to say that I’m out for blood, too much time has passed and too much has happened to SoS for me to justify dwelling on those memories. So good luck to SoS in the future, and hope you guys stick around a few weeks.
Would be interesting if people could name the guilds that left DB for SoS way back when, and identify where they are now though.
Dragonriders [DR] The industry [work] Applied tactics [atac] Onslaught [ons] Violent Impact[VI] Tsym [Tsym] All on blackgate now apart from Tsym. They also left after we only lost twice and were still in t1. :-p
And Fist of the Empire [FoE], better known as “First Ones to Evacuate” [FoE].
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I can’t wait to see Kaineng in T1 after a couple of weeks of practice if they can field even numbers.
Me too, it should provide some extra fun those mornings I wake up and play with FOO. We should get SOR to team up with us and push BG back down to T2 so we can get Kaineng up in T1. I wonder who I would need to talk to about that to make it happen…
Yes please. Then SoS can push up to tier 2 and tsym can wipe the floor with Agg, FoE and AoI ;D
and then you woke up
Hahaha. And if we did get to vs you, your excuse for leaving SoS would be valid because tsym would be the catalyst for you guys failing lolol.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I can’t wait to see Kaineng in T1 after a couple of weeks of practice if they can field even numbers.
Me too, it should provide some extra fun those mornings I wake up and play with FOO. We should get SOR to team up with us and push BG back down to T2 so we can get Kaineng up in T1. I wonder who I would need to talk to about that to make it happen…
Yes please. Then SoS can push up to tier 2 and tsym can wipe the floor with Agg, FoE and AoI ;D
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
TSym vs. BG would be TSym wiping the whole of BG and then all the former SoS guilds on there would use their excuse again of TSym being the reason why their server fails which would actually be a valid excuse this time ;D
Fixed your post up for you broskii.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
No. Not fearing or mad. The future is already set. Even a lot of “natives” of the server have left and the only reason I’m still there is because my guild is and if I were to transfer back to T1, it would be to SoR.
You’re the one that is mad, feeling the need to respond to my post in the first place ;D
But dw BG3.0, maybe on version 4.0 you might finally win t1, provided you don’t implode either by then ;D ;D
If responding makes me mad I can’t even begin to imagine the emotional turmoil you are experiencing by creating that initial post.
If Blackgate hasn’t imploded after dropping out of T1 twice, I don’t foresee another T1 loss as the end of Blackgate. I truly am sorry that your server fell apart, but you come off as needing to vent your pent up rage at BG for tak… erm excuse me… “buying” your guilds.
Also I posted a Yoda pic, and one does not simply quote Jedi Master Yoda in rage.
My initial post was “Nyaaa mad” which was quoting one of your BG baddies little ranting novel about how BG is losing now and then you felt the need to respond to me lmao.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
Hahaha. Stop crying scrub. How many more times does BG need to stack before they finally win t1 LOL. I mean yeah JQ got a kitten load of guilds, but they weren’t all hardcore wvw guilds. BG on the other hand absorbed probably about 85% of SoS’s wvw population (around about 10 hardcore wvw guilds) on top of what they already had and still fail to win. Kk.
It took a JQ call to arms and a simultaneous deliberate focusing of SOR’s wvw pop to curb Blackgate but okay, your server imploded and now your wvw experience is probably terrible right now. I get it you are probably angry and scared about the future of your server.
But fear not young padawan, for fear is the path to the dark side.
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
No. Not fearing or mad. The future is already set. Even a lot of “natives” of the server have left and the only reason I’m still there is because my guild is and if I were to transfer back to T1, it would be to SoR.
You’re the one that is mad, feeling the need to respond to my post in the first place ;D
But dw BG3.0, maybe on version 4.0 you might finally win t1, provided you don’t implode either by then ;D ;D
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
Nyaaa mad. Okay? Im hammered on a Thursday night of course ima send some hate. And besides you T2 stfu.
Hahaha. Stop crying scrub. How many more times does BG need to stack before they finally win t1 LOL. I mean yeah JQ got a kitten load of guilds, but they weren’t all hardcore wvw guilds. BG on the other hand absorbed probably about 85% of SoS’s wvw population (around about 10 hardcore wvw guilds) on top of what they already had and still fail to win. Kk.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
SoR way to give the win to JQ (most likely). You guys are some of the poorest losers i have ever witnessed. SoR this is your server "The Sanctum of Rall server is home to many of the largest and most well known public community event based guilds in Guild Wars 2. The server community is devoted to building a fun and friendly environment for all walks of life and playstyle preferences.
Even before its launch the server was born by friendship and unity. Through the course of our time here on Sanctum of Rall we hope to give a platform for creating friendships, memories, and a community like no other. http://www.sanctumofrall.com/about/
HAHAthe only thing i see from SoR is tight buttholes and hatred. You guys are a complete digrace to WvWvW. It’s always either JQ vs Bg then oh look SoR wants to join in! Or its SoR vs BG then oh look JQ wants to join in. It might as well be JQ + SoR vs BG.
It’s funny though because you will all be whatever this guys a #%#%# and know nothing about WvW which is fine. This is the perspective of a casual player on BG.
And ill be that’s fine. You all will mostly likely disregard this post because, "Oh look this dude is making excuses when BG is losing, and it’s the truth and SoR is just tired of BG kicking the kitten out of SoR. Yea you guys have a great NA butt hats it you guys do nothing but give PPT to JQ.
A Yak Protector.
Nyaaa mad.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I hope we, TC, get to be back in T2 next week instead of waiting another week. T3 started off terrible on the forums, but it seems that our opponents are doing much better on the Forums and such have started to perform better on the battlefield with a cleansed mind (partially) of hate, trollish, and other negative thoughts.
Miss you KA and FA, this matchup will be awesome. Also, keep it up, KA! We said we’d cheer you on and you’re doing well.
Everybody at FA is hoping TC bumps up this week.
No offense to the remainder of SoS but it’s a 1v1 right now
Don’t lie. You only want SoS gone because you’re tired of getting rocked by a certain guild on there ;D
I guess.
P.S. TC up there with you might even make it more lopsided towards Kaineng since from what I know TC and FA lack sea/euro coverage and are stronger in NA no? Which means you both hinder each others points competing during NA time whilst Kaineng continues to steamroll oceanic/sea time and create bigger lead ;D
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I hope we, TC, get to be back in T2 next week instead of waiting another week. T3 started off terrible on the forums, but it seems that our opponents are doing much better on the Forums and such have started to perform better on the battlefield with a cleansed mind (partially) of hate, trollish, and other negative thoughts.
Miss you KA and FA, this matchup will be awesome. Also, keep it up, KA! We said we’d cheer you on and you’re doing well.
Everybody at FA is hoping TC bumps up this week.
No offense to the remainder of SoS but it’s a 1v1 right now
Don’t lie. You only want SoS gone because you’re tired of getting rocked by a certain guild on there ;D
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
Much respect to both FA and Kain. You all fight hard. SoS will continue to battle until they turn out the lights on us.
/salute
You guys are definitely doing really well against everything that has happened. If you don’t stay in tier 2, I have a feeling you will be back eventually. I’ve come to respect SoS once the fat has been shaved so to speak – the bandwagon fat. Those that stayed are the guilds that are the truly respectable ones. Keep it up guys!
Well we lost another two guilds today, and not small ones either. Bleh, just keeps getting worse.
Which ones?
Oceanix, zero negative.
I see. At least OCX is going to SoR.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
Much respect to both FA and Kain. You all fight hard. SoS will continue to battle until they turn out the lights on us.
/salute
You guys are definitely doing really well against everything that has happened. If you don’t stay in tier 2, I have a feeling you will be back eventually. I’ve come to respect SoS once the fat has been shaved so to speak – the bandwagon fat. Those that stayed are the guilds that are the truly respectable ones. Keep it up guys!
Well we lost another two guilds today, and not small ones either. Bleh, just keeps getting worse.
Which ones?
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
Couldn’t disagree more. In fact, they should remove the cap and revert it back to how it was before. People don’t realize… portals, veil, guardian bubbles, ele swirls… these skills liven up WvW, removing or nerfing them makes WvW instantly more boring and less strategic. If anything, they need to add a relevant WvW skill for every class.
Well said.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
Mesmers need to be deleted. Nah they need a real rework. IMO they need it more than any other class. Portals and Veil are both Imba. I guess limiting this stuff like AoEs would help, but I think in general Mesmers just need a rework.
Says the thief.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
Also, any one have any idea how long will it take for BG to make it back into T1 after all the guild transfers ?
1-2 weeks, 3 weeks max.
BG will probably move up as early as this Friday’s reset. It’s only Monday and the rating gap between SoS and BG yesterday was ~50k and is now down to 28k.
I don’t want to say this or do this, i have respect for those staying on SoS… I almost think we / JQ should make sure SoS drops a tier this week. From the looks of it BG owns every thing on all BL’s and will be running up the score big time.
Yes please.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
So one of the major Oceanic guilds on the unofficial Oceanic server that has been there since the start leaves to greener pastures? Sad to see but I guess you do what’s right for your guild.
Good luck in your future endeavours.
I wonder what Jedahs would have done in this situation if he still played.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
Dude theres no competition in T1, SoR and SoS cant even take one of our towers in our lands in EB. We had SM for like 2 days now. Already toke SoR keep. Theres no competition in T1 for real. After 3 or 4 days people dont even care and just do xp camp runs all over SoR and SoS because we already won. Thats what happened last week and thats happening this week and every other week.
I mean when we toke SoR keep yesterday, we were just having fun and going through a reinforced wall and PvPing the wall down and toke it.
The thing I notice is whenever SoS or SoR is trying to flank us even though they are bigger they run away and get ran over. I just dont get it.
^Sounds like a typical pug bandwagoner.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I seriously don’t understand why SOS guilds want to leave, just drop down to T2 as it will be a lot more casual then T1, which is toxic anyway playing against JQ.
Moving to BG is going to change nothing, same stuff is going to happen when they reach T1.
Under Arenanet’s glicko system, one does not simply drop down a tier.
it is much easier and less of a time/effort investment to pay to transfer to the desired tier.
Blackgate aren’t going to be in t2 forever?
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I’d like to see some sort of “statement” from some of the SoS guilds, before I believe that quote above. As the scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail goes “I’m not dead!”.
It will be. 3 other major guilds are threatening to leave.
Why?
They, along with Agg and FoE blame TSYM.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I’d like to see some sort of “statement” from some of the SoS guilds, before I believe that quote above. As the scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail goes “I’m not dead!”.
It will be. 3 other major guilds are threatening to leave.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I agree it can ‘feel’ boring seeing the same names for several weeks on end, but I think this is as intended by Anet to provide as best and fun match ups as possible because then again, they are just names.
Hi Josh,
Just wondering if you still find it ‘fun’ seeing the same names again and again.
Failed attempt of trolling.
Just because I posted this when SoS was winning has no relevance on the fact that the glicko system is intended to produce the most even match ups as possible.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
This matchup is getting pretty stale now. JQ’s first place is uncontested and we’re fighting the same opponent day after day, week after week. In the meantime, people are pointing fingers to Anet for lack of content updates and anything new to make things different and exciting.
I say if we want something new and exciting, it’s totally in our hands. SoS and SoR should team up and fight JQ 2v1. This will DEFINITELY make things more fun and exciting than wvw is in its current state. Yea, yea, some will say “wvw = 1v1v1”, “red means dead” and blah blah blah, but would you rather cling onto your pride and repeat the same thing over and over, week after week with no differing results? or try something new and make things more fun for us all?
It’s pretty clear that JQ is first and SoS and SoR are competing for second. The idea of allying with another server to beat them (because you can’t do it alone) can be humbling. But really, who cares? let’s face the reality. Neither SoS nor SoR can beat JQ alone. And besides, it’s a freaking video game, so who cares? It’s all about fun, and I’m sure SoS and SoR coalition will make wvw much more exciting than it is now. I say we make this week SoR & SoS vs JQ.
Does anyone realize how many weeks in a row that it was SOS stomping JQ and SBI? JQ and SBI fought for 2nd place? How is this any different now?
SOS was first from Week 47 to Week 04 with the exception of 1 week. This is 10 weeks in a row (minus Week 01)
1. SoS was never stacked like people used to claim.
2. SoS only won their matches by 3-30k bar one match which we won by 50k
3. JQ is stacked as kitten (don’t deny it) and has a 20k lead in less than 2 days.
1) SOS was stacked. They dominated a time zone (oceanic) that no other server could match. Likewise now with JQ during SEA time zone.
2) I think many posters have already explained why the matches were close during previous JQ-SOS matchups. SOS usually builds a good lead over the weekend, and by Tuesday, the match is essentially out of reach. SOS then takes the foot off of pedal to do pve activities while JQ continues to push throughout the week to close the gap. That is why you see many JQ players say they always do better during weekdays. I don’t think it’s because JQ magically gains more skills during the weekdays. I think it has more to do with the fact that SOS tends to only play seriously the first few days of the match and JQ playing up until Thursday or Friday to close the gap.
3) I think there are 2 reasons for the 20k lead after 2 days.
Reason 1:
A challenge has been issued to JQ’s NA crew since many posters have claimed that they’re been carried. Right now, JQ’s NA crew is out there trying to prove that they’re not being carried. In the past, they might be doing pve during NA times or maybe just playing normal hours (no overtime). However, this week, JQ’s NA crew appears to have accepted the challenge and everyone appears to be focused on wvw and putting in overtime. And the PPT is showing that since a previous poster noted that they’re ticking at 350 to 400 during NA prime time on a weekend (Saturday) which is very impressive since many have claimed that the weekends have the most even fights due to everyone being available.
Reason 2:
SOS is not as strong as strong as before, and they do not field the numbers they used to field. It could be due to low morale or guilds leaving the server (AGG, FOE, etc). If SOS was dominating oceanic prime time as they did in the past, the score would probably be a lot more closer.
I can’t say I recall SoS ever having a 20k lead after the weekend or even more than 10k.
SoS dominated oceanic time, but JQ also dominated euro time then which neither SoS or SBI had. When SoS was in t4, the transfers we got (which weren’t even close to half of the kitten tonne JQ received) brought us to t1. The kitten tonne JQ received as an already t1 server was just ridiculous.
Also I’d just like to say I still blame ArenaNet for the reason JQ is stacked as kitten. If they had never extended server cap limits, then JQ would never have been able to transfer even half the amount that they received, even if they did more blackouts. And I don’t want to hear “deal with it, you had the chance to recruit more guilds JQ just did it better.” No. Jedahs put a lot of effort into trying to recruit more guilds, but Jedahs and every thread he made got constantly flamed or laughed at because a server who was already No.1 wanted to recruit more people. JQ was more appealing as No.2 and many guilds transferred there for the sole purpose of crushing SoS.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
3. JQ is stacked as kitten (don’t deny it) and has a 20k lead in less than 2 days.
Josh, SoS had been winning previous weekends after free transfer’s ended. JQ numbers didn’t change.
1. Because the SoR new to t1 excitement has worn off.
2. People tired of putting in extra long hours on weekends only to still end up getting smashed by 50k+
EDIT: We lost 2 major NA guilds which probably made up half of our NA population.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
This matchup is getting pretty stale now. JQ’s first place is uncontested and we’re fighting the same opponent day after day, week after week. In the meantime, people are pointing fingers to Anet for lack of content updates and anything new to make things different and exciting.
I say if we want something new and exciting, it’s totally in our hands. SoS and SoR should team up and fight JQ 2v1. This will DEFINITELY make things more fun and exciting than wvw is in its current state. Yea, yea, some will say “wvw = 1v1v1”, “red means dead” and blah blah blah, but would you rather cling onto your pride and repeat the same thing over and over, week after week with no differing results? or try something new and make things more fun for us all?
It’s pretty clear that JQ is first and SoS and SoR are competing for second. The idea of allying with another server to beat them (because you can’t do it alone) can be humbling. But really, who cares? let’s face the reality. Neither SoS nor SoR can beat JQ alone. And besides, it’s a freaking video game, so who cares? It’s all about fun, and I’m sure SoS and SoR coalition will make wvw much more exciting than it is now. I say we make this week SoR & SoS vs JQ.
Does anyone realize how many weeks in a row that it was SOS stomping JQ and SBI? JQ and SBI fought for 2nd place? How is this any different now?
SOS was first from Week 47 to Week 04 with the exception of 1 week. This is 10 weeks in a row (minus Week 01)
1. SoS was never stacked like people used to claim.
2. SoS only won their matches by 3-30k bar one match which we won by 50k
3. JQ is stacked as kitten (don’t deny it) and has a 20k lead in less than 2 days.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
I know right! Here I am sitting on 38% map completion just to find out if I want to finish I need to explore all 100% of the game and go into those PvE zones. I mean geesh, fighting an AI mob just gets so boring.
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Arenanet please remove map completion from PvE zones. I don’t want to play a mode I don’t like. It kills my motivation.
Illucéption – Mesmer
Diamond Story – Elementalist
[TSym] Tac Sym
