Guild Wars 2

To be honest, I’m pretty frustrated and soon to be done with this server.

There is no ‘current JQ’, everyone just does their own thing and no one wants to work together. It’s getting old and tiresome.

Waha and ATM’s BS is the the final straw I feel, not just for myself but for a lot of guilds on JQ. Lot of people disagreed with him because trying to break a server is lame first of all as this is just a game(why would you want to do that, it’s malicious and petty) and also it was destroying us in the other timezone because all our SEA would do is focus SoR and it would leave us exposed everywhere else because he would sacrifice everything we owned just to flip SoR’s stuff past 3 weeks. And that’s not even including the countless times he would let BG take our garrison in home BL and hillside in BG while going after SoR garrison.

I don’t know who from SoR kitten ed in Waha’s cheerios but you made him go from an intelligent strategic commander to a hate ridden commander hell bent on destroying SoR while destroying his own server. Congrats, you’re an idiot too.

That was a straight copy/paste from the JQ internal boards, why are you posting that kitten on the public forums?

Yes, ATM main commander said that and I disagreed with him because trying to break a server is not a strategy if it destroys your own server while doing so.

Now that the cat is out of the bag, SoR is probably just going to get more stubborn and not care about winning and just focus down JQ for having such petty ideals and short sighted tactics.

In the end, ATM being our greatest asset during sea has pretty much screwed our entire server outside of their timezone.

I’ve seen HB out with 30-40 players, they aren’t small.

Given I’ve only seen them once or twice a week but when they are out, they are out in force.

Is anyone streaming the IRON/HB fights?

HB rarely runs untagged, they usually have a map zerg behind them.

How are you going to do that?

Starscream.7803:

Dear HB, IRON heard you are looking for us tonight. It is hard looking over 4 maps so we are on JQ in case you need help.

MEOW!

oooh, let me know who wins. IRON v HB.

Is there a stream we can watch?

BG has plenty of coverage. The scores show that.

JQ is the server that needs help.

There’s plenty of people who work hard for our home BL even when outmanned. The fact is when one time zone doesn’t care it puts a burden on the rest of us.

We have a strategic problem on JQ atm.

People just don’t care about working together or trying to beat our enemies. It’s like people log on to only play with their guilds then they log off and don’t give a rats kitten about anyone or anything else.

Quite frankly it’s getting depressing. I feel like we can beat either server and come in 2nd at least but people just don’t want to try. Even Waha has disappointed me lately. There’s no logic to what he does, he lets our entire BL get flipped instead of trying to defend it which leaves us the rest of the day to deal with paper garrison and SoR being the kittens that they are, they keep it paper until NA with their stacked Euro.

Does anyone else enjoy Fact’s little pictures as much as I do?

The attention to detail is simply fantastic.

Why is BG complaining so much. You won last match by a big margin and you are winning this match.

Lets stop making excuses and start fighting.

A couple of the old FIRE SEA guys transferred to BG recently and they also said BG queues all 4 maps during SEA.

Explains the ppt to be honest, nothing to be ashamed of. Just interesting.

Good luck to all.

Kathy K.6812:

MagiKarp.8201:

I redact my statement about TFV, the TFV I saw was a dual repping SONG guild member, sorry for dragging TFV’s name into this thread, but the causality is always there, every week BG has won since the last JQ victory SoR has received a new guild.

I wouldn’t be surprised MagiKarp… They’re more than likely trying to get a new guild. SoR NEVER ticks below 30PPT unless it’s on purpose.

Maybe against you guys that may be true. But JQ has been laying it down hard against SoR past 2 days. Don’t speak for our server’s hard work, our wins are because we are outplaying and beating SoR straight up. BG wants to use an excuse of a non-existent SoR, that’s on you.

Where are they going and why??

I really like vH. Good peoples.

Is SoR really that dumb? The only reason the score is so close is because WE ARE DOUBLE TEAMING YOU.

All the crying BG is doing is only going to encourage them, you guys need to kitten already.

I honestly find it amusing that the only server that had EU for months when no one else did is the one that is crying the loudest.

Only server that has legitimate reason to complain here is JQ.

What a great matchup.

Fuzzion.2504:

ThaOwner.7560:

Nerifes.4931:

Oh look…..this match up again.

Really not seeing the fun in WvW anymore.

theres really no pleasing everyone, TC has been stuck in blowout matches for weeks now and would love to be in your guys place and here you are complaining about an even match

Well atleast you got your tier 2 buddy back.

Also, send some guilds over to JQ and you will get a fuzz hug and Coca-Cola’s secret recipe

This, the WvW guilds from TC should just come to JQ. There really is no way for 4 servers to be competitive and there’s no other servers coming up. If you want tier 1 action, you have to move to a tier 1 server.

Hopefully Anet doesn’t touch our “tier 1”, really good fights to be had all around.

Had the pleasure of running around with PRO commander yesterday, nice bunch.

Really big welcome to you guys.

Someone is mad.

Israel.7056:

I think the reason it seems like SoR has more people is because they’re just generally more coordinated than BG. They have everyone going after one thing at the same time or they’ll be coordinating hits on several objectives at the same time so it feels like a coverage thing.

I’m starting to notice this more which is why I asked in my previous post hoping some SoR players would be willing to be more open about their server.

While I don’t agree with their posters or their current recruitment stance, I was being sincere when I said as a server, SoR seems leaps and bounds ahead of JQ and BG as far as organization goes.

I mean, sure if you asked me 2-3 weeks ago who was the smallest server, it could be said it was SoR, but now I don’t know if they are the smallest, with a population that seems improved and their already stronger than most organization, it’s becoming quite obvious that BG and JQ aren’t equipped. I mean we admittedly 2v1’d you guys from the get go this match but we simply can’t keep up.

BG doesn’t recruit guilds, they recruit servers.

The reason I ask about leadership is because I think it’s obvious that SoR is on a different level than both BG and JQ. And I’m curious to whether it’s by “design” or just blind dumb luck.

Forget the fact that somehow you guys have managed to exclusively recruit WvW only guilds while the other 2 servers have picked up PvX majority. But it seems your server’s organization, communication, and overall “philosophy” or “message” or whatever you wanna call it is more server wide through all the guilds and not fractured like it is elsewhere. I guess being more blunt, how did you get all the guilds and players to “buy in” to the server mentality and who sets those goals, etc.

I’m sure there’s no silver bullet out there, but I think if you guys are willing to share what you guys do as a server more openly it would allow the other servers to either copy or take what applies to them and then also grow which leads to a healthy and competitive tier in the long run.

TW on the forums are such kittens, when they were on JQ in ts and in game they were so nice.

I don’t get it

Kaimick.5109:

SykkoB.9465:

Lemrish.5970:

People forget that yesterday July 1st was a Stat Holiday in Canada so EU time had some extra people. We’re going to see the same at the end of the week with July 4th holidays in the US. Unfortunately, the PPT you see now in EU time will be norm.

This is what happens when a server panics after getting destroyed by RG and finishing last after wining for weeks. [KISS], [SONG] and whomever else they recruited will make things difficult in EU time with their PVDooring now with full map zergs.

Keep fighting JQ and BG! Go after those camps and slap those yaks. Who knows, you might be able to divide up the SOR map blobs and come up with some surprising victories!

SONG a small havoc squad guild who is sea

Yes SONG is SEA and not very large, but I think people are still puzzled as to why SoR would activily seek out Kiss for a time slot they already had large numbers in. Especially when I believe it was Lettol ( sorry for the miss spelling or mis qoute ) that said “We turn away guilds to JQ all the time so we can have even number and good fights.”

Now SoR war council or what ever you call your selves there can not stop KISS from transfering, although common practice of human pysc tells us that when someone is not wanted they generally wont go.

So Instead of SoR saying we would love to have you BUT Jq doesn’t even have a EU presence, I think you would fit in good there and get amazing fights to boot. Instead they activly tried to recuirt them and then turn to BG and tell us that we should give JQ some of our guilds becuase we are Blackhole gate or what ever silly name has been derived.

Although in SoR defense from the sounds of it KISS just wanted to be part of a winning server and ban wagoned over to SoR. Was it becuase SoR had the more prodominate EU presence who knows but out of the three servers

• SoR has the most numbers in EU
• BG has HB and RK when they log on ( HB and RK you guys do work hat tips ) and Merc groups when they pull overtime
• JQ has no EU presence and if there is any JQ on in that time it is their SEA pulling OT.

I don’t even agree with Choco Puddin going for KISS although I can’t blame him, just like I can’t BlAME SOR for doing it. Honestly I don’t think anyone blames SoR for further strengthening their strong time coverage. People just don’t understand why SoR came off like the savior of fairness for equal fights then did this.

Just out of curiosity what does SoR have? I know BG has a “war council” and JQ has a “wvw conclave”.

What does SoR’s leadership consist of/what’s it called/who’s part of it??

As much as I dislike SoR right now. Past 3 days have been BG doing this nonsense. You two servers need to go make your own tier. Yesterday, BG ticked almost 400 for 12 hours. It was silly.

Mikey.9024:

Is MEOW guild mad?

what is this They build Bail and Ram in our hill

We during keep sup 3hour and defend .. aw… headache

Interesting server dynamics you got there. Guess all the rumors are true.

The fights on the forums makes the fights in game that much sweeter tbh.

The BG/SoR hate is awesome.

Makes for fantastic drama.

Can we please talk about the matchup now, no one cares about who got who.

Awesome fights in JQ BL guys. Really great fights. /salute

Flood.6105:

I hope and pray JQ and BG just absolutely stick it to SOR this week.

We did last week and we saw the result. It was pretty much a straight double team from Sunday onwards.

The problem about SoR as I see is that they go exclusively after the WvW guilds only.

Yes, you guys are right, all 3 servers are recruiting. But SoR has the bigger collection of “WvW only guilds”, while both BG and JQ have more PvX guilds. So while yes, you don’t have as many people as us total server population wise, you have more wvw’ers which is the point you guys are missing.

I’m not sure how it happened but SoR has somehow managed to make themselves known as the server to be on if you are a serious wvw guild, which makes no sense to stack even then because you still need competition to fight against.

While I’m not particularly thrilled SOR got another Euro guild, and a really good one at that, I still think BG has more euro than them, whether you guys want to admit it or not.

I saw massive BG zergs throughout all the maps this week, it was painful.

Quite frankly, your both kitteng things up for the tier.

Kathy K.6812:

Jahn.7019:

Indeed. BG’s Euro timeslot is pretty amazing now. I’m sure they are excited for the challenge.

Lol BG’s Euro isn’t even close to what SoR had & now it’ll just be PvDoor for SoR. Grats on getting stacked during EU, can’t say I’m surprised since SoR is all about numbers.

TBH, BG had pretty large zergs this week during Euro across multiple maps.

Avenge.1478:

PLEASE keep pushing Bay on JQ BL. We’re enjoying our feast on BG and JQ. You have our permission to continue working together, your loot is delicious.

Don’t worry we will, hope SoR is ready for another week of the double team.

Inc SoR 3rd place 2 weeks in a row? Stay tuned.

Blackgate has stated they have queues and yet they are still recruiting?

Give it a break. You guys have the highest population and coverage in T1 atm.

Check out JQ imo OP.

Shinji.2063:

Kryyg.8576:

Is most of MERC unemployed?

Not a jab, just curious.

Got to make that 4 hour quota so we dont get the /gkick

More like 15 hour quota, but yes.

The BG gold recruiting machine and the overtime machine might pull out a win this time.

Tarkus.4109:

Kryyg.8576:

Tarkus.4109:

Kryyg.8576:

Is most of MERC unemployed?

Not a jab, just curious.

Uni finished a little while ago, also a lot of us work on the weekend

I think if there was an award for the guilds who play the most, you guys would win it hands down.

Waha taught us well <3

Waha zergs hard I’ll give you that, he doesn’t play hard though. He makes it very clear, the game isn’t his life.

Tarkus.4109:

Kryyg.8576:

Is most of MERC unemployed?

Not a jab, just curious.

Uni finished a little while ago, also a lot of us work on the weekend

I think if there was an award for the guilds who play the most, you guys would win it hands down.

Is most of MERC unemployed?

Not a jab, just curious.

SoR, your NA is such kitten it’s getting old and frustrating now.

JQ is BACK!

GJ everyone, just took the lead.

Hickeroar.9734:

Le Rooster.8715:

Hickeroar.9734:

WIGZ.8245:

Would’ve preferred a new matchup, this fight is getting dull as the weeks go by.

Just be glad you have fights at all. :-/

The remnants of what were T2 and below are just dull dull dull now. TC is stuck in some weird T1.5 limbo while there’s no lower ranked server that can even come close to creating a real challenge at this point…yet we’re clearly not ready for T1 due to some significant coverage holes during SEA and Oceanic (and a bit in EU).

Argh. This new matchup system is ruining everything. We’re queuing 3-4 maps a night right now so we can wander around doing almost nothing.

Then Stop FLippin recruiting, don’t blame the new system because you would just stomp Dragonbrand and Fort aspenwood anyways, Tarnished Coast did this to themselves nobody said you had to get RE or the CD SEA guilds but you had tooo recruit more. Either leave the server or don’t complain about stomping when you were the ones who caused it.

There really wasn’t a lot of recruiting. Most of it was just guilds expressing interest and then moving over.

Give me a break, TC recruited to become a T1 server. All the guilds that transferred to TC also came to talk to JQ, but you paid them more gold than we could and they went to TC instead. To say they “just came over” is BS and you know it.

Now TC isn’t a T1 server and you over-recruited for T2, it’s your own fault.

Wow, how did you guys manage to get Indo, are you even in our tier?

He had some pretty amazing ideas, I won’t lie. Definitely an interesting listen. Who’s the guest for your upcoming shows? It was entertaining.

edit: the pve talk at the end got a little boring though. Well produced overall though.

I don’t understand, last week against us, BG had huge numbers in all 4 maps almost 24/7.

This matchup it seems like they just aren’t showing up.

No 111k chest thumping from BG?

I’m surprised.

jagabs.5086:

scootshoot.6583:

Paxi.1386:

JQ has yet to attack SoR in EB, 2 and half hours after reset and they haven’t even poked SoR.

Awww, sounds like BG needs more guilds to bolster their numbers, eh?

You should start a recruitment thread ……

Apparently, it looks like we need to recruit a SERVER instead of guilds. As for me, I’m actually enjoying this situation, more people to kill for loot bags.

How many more servers does BG want to eat up? 4 servers wasn’t enough for you guys?