Guild Wars 2

Here it is, this is my first Ele, and I want to go full pyro damage dealer. Im not worried about survuvability really, I just want to stand int he back and deal out hell.

Any advice on Weapon sets to use and possible builds? Thx!

Ah, sorry about that. Mezmers….eeeesh. Well I appreciate the responses, and we get access to burn aye? Well I think I might pick this back up then if we are FINALLY getting some buffs. This class was in terrible condition when I left (no pun intended). Ill have another look and feel this out I guess. thanks guys.

Well I was part of the Titan Alliance at one time, if anyone remembers those days. I enjoyed the game but I hated the direction it was taking with the ascended gear and everything becoming a grind. I also play a Necro and didnt like the fact that at that time, rangers and engineers could build bleeds faster than us and I felt necro minion AI was just stupid. All in all, i was disgusted at the lack of attention this class was getting and ultimately quit.

So, if I am to come back, I would like to know what has changed? Has the class gotten better? I know when I left, death shroud did nothing more than prolong your death and life steal was soooooo pathetic. I heard about the new Torment condition which quite frankly, giving that to thieves and rangers is really stupid.

What do you guys think?

Guess Ill have to wait for more responses, too many people focusing on my Warrior comment. Im sry but please, this is about Necros.

So I quit because I felt Necros were in a bad place and the dev team had no intention of fixing the class. Since its all i wanted to play, i left. Anything changed or are Rogues and Mezmers still above par and Necros UP?

I quit playing a month ago. I lost complete faith in anet and their ability to make this class unique (DS doesn’t count) and as fluid as other classes. I was disgusted with direction instances were taking and completely confused at the discrepancies in boss difficulty in certain dungeons. I joined this game to play a necro and wasn’t playing anything else. Our condition stacking was slower than other classes. Our pet AI was the worst in game. Our burst was mediocre at best. There was nothing we could do that other classes couldn’t do better.

So I waited. I hoped. I thought for sure that this highly anticipated patch would show me that anet was gonna get their act together. Now, I’m happy. Happy I can finally let this game go for good. I can finally stop being let down and disappointed everytime I logged in. I can drop this mess and be at peace with it because now I know this class is doomed for mediocrity. I can let it go and move on. Thanks anet for giving me that final push.

Good luck.

Dulon.9347:

I see, instead of asking me how i do it you simply try to insult my intelligence and
imply i don’t realize i am completely worthless to my groups.

What did you do in order to come to your conclusion in this matter?
Theorycrafting? Did you at least try it ingame with gear and traits you found
appropiate?

Life stealing in this game, for this class is hella bad. Period. He is right.

Wow. And people try to say the classes are balanced. Anet, you guys are effing clueless. kitten this game. I’m done as of today.

Would like it removed.

30 minutes for flawless runs. 1 hour for people trying the dungeon for the first time. Considering they aren’t spam wiping.

Yes, it is dying.

1. Devs never listen to anyone when they say an instance is too darn long and one boss (Lupicus Giganticus) is the longest fight of any boss in game and he almost single handedly ruins the instance completely.

2. Devs do listen and over- react as soon as some one says " it’s too easy "! To them, it’s a challenge issued and they answer almost immediately. Selective reading at its worst. You have a few elite jerks wanting to make themselves feel superior to the player base at large and as soon as you say Arah is too long, they come out and say stupid crap like " we did it in 5 minutes, the whole dungeon, yes in 5 minutes and Lupi is fun and easy." Now they have not only lied, but made themselves feel better and made the devs feel like its sooooo great. It’s not.

It pisses me off cause I’ve busted my butt with pugs to get the complete set just for the look of the skins and because anet only hears what they want to hear, Arah still sucks, is too darn long and is now fading to obscurity. Great.

Lastly. Good luck even getting in cause its contested about 99.9% of the time.

Dude. In a word. No. I hate saying it. And I’m pissed that I am saying it. But no.

My Necro…not full Arah Yet but IM getting there…..

Aexrael.5918:

Unless the encounters change in such a way that the utility the Necromancer class brings to the table becomes important, it is unlikely to change, outside of drastic class balance changes. It is far easier to simply stack high burst/sustained damage (war/thief) or very tanky/support (Guardians), or Quickness/Condition cleansing (Mesmers).

Thats what Im afraid of. I wish we really had something that stood out as Necro only.

Here we are:

Happened today right after I logged in…..

http://i48.tinypic.com/doqwl3.jpg <——also linked in original post for those who only read that.

striker.3704:

You should keep in mind that the groups who say they only want X class usually do the worst.

Well, I hope youre right. I also must consider that they are doing it for a reason. If they feel or have seen that it is easier to run these instances with only certain classes, then the trend only gets worse as others not only see it, but experience it as well. I cant say for sure that they only do worse though. It wouldnt make much sense to ask for only certain classes if you do worse that way. It would make sense if they were asking for only certain classes because they in fact do better.

Then again, I am only speculating about that. It is happening though. I saw again today just as I logged in. Ill screen it if I can.

Im becoming increasingly concerned about this class as it stands right now. I have played a necro since beta 1 and despite our problems, I just cant bring myself to play anything else as a main. I love the nostalgia surrounding this profession too much.

However, in map chat, concerning Fractals in particular, people are asking for only certain classes more and more. Even when I see a “LF2M (insert fractal lvl here)” and I respond, its either “what class are you”? I respond “Necro.” They respond, “Sorry but we need a Warrior or Guardian” or “Mesmer or Thief”. Sometimes they just simply put out a “LF_M, Warriors or Guardians only” or “Mesmers or Thieves only”.

Im very disturbed by this. I am afraid this will dwindle the necro play base even more or worse, cause people to not want us at all.

I believe the issue is that, we can do alot of things that any class can do better. Be it conditions, straight DPS, Healing….we are not the best at anything in this game. Guardians can protect grps so much better, Warriors can aoe better and deal better straight damage as well as thieves plus they all have much more useful utilities, Mesmers in particular.

I really hope this is a passing trend but in MMOs, this kinda thing only gets worse….not better.

I really think this profession needs re-thinking. We need something if not a few things that no one else can do. We need to be made unique. DS is not going to cut it…it really is pointless in Instances I think.

I hope someone is paying attention.

Here is a screen I took, 2 minutes after I logged in:
http://i48.tinypic.com/doqwl3.jpg

drkn.3429:

Guardian > warrior >>> mesmer & thief > ele >> engi & ranger >>> necro.
Howgh.

This is complete bs. A conditionmancer can lay smack down on grp of mobs like no one else. Also some if these fights need constant, sustained DPS rather than burst. I have seen grps fall apart in the dredge from the mass of mobs while condition necro with epidemic freaking destroys them. Your list is way off because of lack of info and understanding. Also on the jellyfish boss, the adds are a non issue with a necro. Epidemic off the bosses conditions and they all die before they ever make it to any party member.

Sabin.4590:

mesmers, get yourselves mesmers, managed to complete the swamp in 10 minutes.

So mesmers are op in more than just Pvp? Who knew?

fourpoundburrito.1698:

I agree that Jelly is a tad too easy in the tier 1 levels but I also agree with the others that said his HP pool is too high. You have to stab at him nigh forever before he’s fishfood.

• points at Lupicus. Again.

loaded.1938:

anyone else having problems looting 1 of these ? ive now done over 50 new dungeon runs have over 300 relics and i am still waiting to loot a essence to make my backpack

Sadly, it’s luck based. I’ve gotten two already and am only scale 5. I feel for you bro. Keep trying.

HeeHee.5208:

Swamp is easy and a very short fractal; hence why I like it too.

At least as a mesmer where you can use your portal, teleport, then temporal curtain for speed buff.

If you have a second mesmer, then the fractal is a joke, just use two portals.

Of course, if it is your first time, then I can understand why it may be difficult because of the quickly appearing walls, traps, not knowing the best route to take.

However, once you know how to do it, trust me, it is arguably the best fractal as again it takes no time at all.

And people like you are why games get screwed up. “Whaaaa! It’s too easy!” Then you state you play a profession that has an unfair advantage in the event. Guess what hero, not everyone plays a Mesmer nor should have to have one in the grp for this factual not to be completely crappy.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Zenyatoo.4059:

Now, this has no indication of difficulty, but both swamp and aquatic are easy as heck, and the fastest fractals. Whenever I see them Im more than happy.

Eesh, I built both of those… guess I need to toughen them up a bit…

Selective reading much???? Toughen swamp up and people will just respawn to get the fractals that don’t suck. Swamp is the worst most frustrating for no good reason fractal in the game. Jellyfish only needs buffing in early tiers. This is why you guys screw stuff up. You knee jerk when someone says something is too easy and ignore people who say something is too hard. GG.

Of a full arah set. However. Because of Lupicus, I have only 2 pieces. Most groups either fall apart or just refuse to do Arah because of this one boss. Now I am loving the Fotm dungeons. Love them, but I still want the skins for my full orrian set. It is not looking good and I am sad about that. Now I’ve heard many people complain about how long the jellyfish boss takes to kill in fractals yet Lupi is 10 times worse. There have been posts after posts about the ridiculousness of this boss and how op he is compared to the other bosses. I would like to know this: Is there hope for this boss getting toned down a little so people can actually have fun in this instance? Will I be able to log in and feel I actually have a chance to get my full set look?

Please anet. Please help me realize my dream! Tone this guys health pool down a bit. Pleeeeeeeeease!!!!

React.4915:

Quick to the point. Look around at all the classes on the forums on the PVP spectrum of things. Every class is suffering, maybe not an equal amount, but they are suffering. This is not going to turn into a plea for my main as a class, but rather an eye opener for those of you who do not see what actually is happening.
Yes, things in very simple words, are just messed up right now. But if you look at the patches and what they are doing to the classes, Arena Net is actually being smart about the situation. They are taking all the classes down a few notches, and setting back in a sort of “beginning” phase. Do you think that they would just leave them this way? No, they will, slowly, bring them back to life, but in the way they were intended. But it takes ALOT of work, I know from experience. They may be doing things in a way that you do not agree, but they are in fact working on it; They just have not been very vocal about it, as not to confuse the community or stir them up. Do realize that this game is still brand new, and will take time to get to a suitable place that everyone enjoys.
While everyone has their opinions on how certain classes should act, and everyone has different ideas on future PVP implementations, there are some that I am sure we can all agree on.
1. THERE NEEDS (not want) NEEDS, to be a “Duel” option. Everyone likes to be able to have that option, whether or not you accept to duel someone is different. But it is nice to be able to just battle it out at any lvl in any zone, with a buddy, and fight!
2. THERE NEEDS to be 1v1 pvp matches and tournaments, as well as 2v2.
These two should be standard in GW2 and I am not sure why they have not done it yet.
So the idea of this post, is to get you, the players, to comment below, and share your ideas, whether they are positive or negative. We need feedback. But I do ask, that you act not as a dog while posting, but as an intellectual individual who can make an educated statement, not just blurt out what you want to get attention.
Thank you for reading this, and please comment below.

-Kyle

There will never be a 1v1 option. To do so would spot light op classes and anet can’t have that. Can you imagine the stats for thieves in 1v1 tournaments!?! Talk about a moment of clarity!

obsolete.4879:

Being killed by a thief is a learn to play issue. Every class has utility skills to thwart thieves. These skills not only thwart thieves but every bursty class.

People are just mad that they are attacking someone and get this feeling of winning. All of a sudden they are taken from 60% life to 0% by a thief because they were tunneling what they thought was a win. Any class specced burst can take someone in this scenario.

I enjoy how people complain about D/D thieves when the most powerful and unstoppable thief build involves P/D. A good P/D build thief will DoT, heal while stealth and face melt your teammate at the same time.

I do not play a thief.

So says the thief.

Tanknastole.3617:

Dear Anet and Thief players,
i recetly joined Free tournament and encountered a thief in first game that completly ruined mine whole game experience. Why? Sorry but when someone can kill me with 3 hits that is not even bad thats is simply frustrating.

Heres just one picture before i left spvp, think it explains all.
http://i.imgur.com/3034g.jpg

I and all my friends dont play spvp just becouse this, i hope someday it will be fixed.

Honestly players

Those numbers are stupid. No one, not no profession should be putting out those numbers. People who play thieves will say garbage like “dodge out if it, pop you stun breaker” and crap like that but the fact is by the time you try any of that, you’re either dead or near death already. Thieves are ridiculous and beyond defendable at this point. Meanwhile they nerf necros and buff warriors, again. I have little faith in anet’s ability to balance anything because I believe someone at the top of the food chain is calling the shots. No way this is a group or unanimous design decision. This has to be the result of an office bully pushing his/ her biased design down. No one can justify this profession in its current state.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Jelly can get downright nasty once he gets agony. His lower scaling could use some love though!

Glad you are enjoying yourself.

Thx! It’s all about fun man. Anything can be hard, complicated or different but fun is what keeps me invested. Which is why I don’t do Lupi anymore. <—-cheap shot. Sry!

Fotm is a. great concept.

Eldiora.5836:

The jelly fish boss is easy yes, but just obnoxiously long. Make him more difficult but cut his hp in half?

I really love how most boss fights are hard, strategic, but dont take hours to finnish because so far bosses had reasonable HP with exception of the jelly fish

On the other hand, having 2 people dc in the middle of a bossfight on 12 is not fun…

And this is exactly what I think about Lupi! His health pool needs to go down. The fight is exhausting. Don’t change anything else. Just lower his hp.

Okay guys!!! I have been one if anet’s biggest critics on a number of things. I still have a beef with necro design and balance issues and still freaking hate Lupicus, however, I am freaking loving Fotm!!!!! I went in first time today and got to scale 5. I have already made my ascended back piece from the essence that falls off mobs. The instances are refreshing and I think original. I love the tentacle boss and the whole dolphin thing…. Cool.

Now the jellyfish boss is too easy. 3 manned him today. The Asura boss needs some help too but all in all, very entertaining. I like it. Like it. Like it. You get this one “atta boy” from me on this one anet. Just one.

Now. Tone Lupi down a little for goodness sake!!!!!

Well I tried. I really tried. Necros were my only interest in this game and the lack of consideration and plain care to this class while thieves and mesmers run around ridiculously over powered is more than I can take. I’m not going to be manipulated into another profession or sit here waiting for real balance in this game. I’m so discouraged that logging on to my necro doesn’t interest me anymore. I feel I have nothing to look forward too but getting owned in seconds. To make matters worse, the complete lack of consideration to necro players just seals the deal. I’m not going to be part of a game where devs ignore players until the players quit complaining just because we know nothing will be done. I’m not going to be part of a game where devs completely keep players in the dark about what if anything will be done

I have nothing to look forward too and nothing to be excited about with this profession. I’m so sick of hearing my friends in TS saying how much they love their thief or Mesmer, how much fun they are to play when what they mean is how op they are. Done. I promise you that it’s not lack of content, it’s not lack of PVp or any if that. It’s just the hopelessness I feel logging in and playing this broke kitten class.

Rant off. You Guys choosing to hang in there, good luck and God speed.

Pray.9751:
In my humble opinion the best quick-fix for the whole problem would be to introduce single/duo queue free tournaments (or just single games) with a strong matchmaking mechanic.
Best regards Pray

Yes please do this and expose the imbalance in this game even more. I am already losing interest in this game because of mesemers, warriors and thieves. You put in single and duo tournaments and the ridiculousness of these classes will be more exposed than ever. I can see it now. Dual thief teams killing teams in seconds. Guardian and warrior teams being unkillable. Lol. Yeah plz do this and help me finalize my decision to leave this imbalanced joke.

Man I just Life siphoned that guy for 28K! ( as oppose to “man I just back stabbed that guy for 28K!”) <————- I hear this crap all the time from Thieves who announce this crap as if its something related to skill.

Multi phase bosses aren’t the issue, nor is Lupi an issue just because he is multi phase. Lupi is an issue because he is a guaranteed death, two or three times while being a multi phased boss that Takes nearly 20 darn minutes to kill. No freaking boss encounter should be this radical. Anet gets their kitten off this boss for some reason and the cries and pleas to make him more reasonable have been ignored, yet people continue to rage about this one darn boss. He is off par with any other boss in game. Period.

William Fairfield.1428:

Whole thing is here.

http://www.twitch.tv/mmorpgcom/b/337726366

Pfft. If its anything like Arah, specifically Lupis, you’ll just be scaring people away and inciting rage instead of fun.

Yep. Sick of it. It’s all fun and games until Lupis. I really don’t give a kitten about all you kitten elites claiming how fun he is. 30 kitten minutes on one stupid boss is a fun factor killer. Yet I know during every meeting at anet when the stats are brought up about how many players this boss has killed, groups he has wiped and how many hours are spent fighting this ridiculous buzz killer, the guy who designed him gets a woody and tells “yes” because he was picked on in school and feels some sense if power making this kitten boss so annoying. Yes annoying. Not fun. I got one more run and ill have the helm and shoulders and then I’m freaking done with this crap. Thx for creating such a crappy attitude toward something that should inspire enjoyment. You people are truly sick.

So people on my server are all saying that you need 1000 Candy Corn to participate iont he the next event. I cant believe that because nothing was posted that says that. Alot of people havent saved that many so participation will be the suck. This isnt true is it?

Man must be my server then. Just had another group fall apart before we even started.

Man, for three days Ive tried. Guildies dont want to do it, only AC and others. If I do start a group, it never fills. WTH is going on? And forget about pugs…is this just my server?

Cant get to him. I finished the story line weeks ago and just today got the token to get the weapon. Cant find him in Fort Trinity anywhere. I looked it up and he is behind a door that wont open.

Got my token…today even though i finished the story weeks ago. Cant find vendor or cant get to him.

..and last….he looks like he is always looking down almost.

Here is another view….it just doesnt look right.

You can see int he screenies that the helm sits weird. It makes me look like Im tried to touch the sky with the back of my head, an over exaggerated position of looking down all the time.

In the attached screenie you can see how even the lower half of the mouth part of the helm clips into the hood.

Please make this look more natural, more forward looking.

Did arah today and some farming runs. When I had more than one condition on me, swarm would only remove one. The other one or two would remain. I had weakness and two stacks of bleeding on me. I cast DS and only weakness was removed.

urtv.8791:

it depends on the route you took.it resets when daily resets at like 8pm

AH… took path 3, the same one I always take. Maybe thats it…thanks

Ebon.7641:

I think this boss is a little overtuned as well, especially on path 1 where you can’t pull him closer to a waypoint, and the waypoint is 10 minutes away. The rest of the dungeon is fun, difficult, but then you get to this guy and it’s just a brick wall. I won’t even step in Arah again until some changes are made with this guy, it just isn’t fun at all :\

Exactly.

nachtnebel.9168:

Monarch.4026:

I didnt complain about any of his other skills. Youre making the case that “His other skills are also predictable” when I didnt complain about his other skills.

This was just to illustrate that p3 isn’t that hard.

I complained about that one skill and his health pool. You even stated that "Due to its animation it’s rather hard to detect before it hits you, but it’s doable. " Thats like saying, well the car will die on you for no reason during your trip, you wont see it coming. Its rather hard to start up again, but it’s drivable. Yeah, I want that car!

Your car example is just wrong, cause the “green blob poison attack” – as you called it – actually is dodge- and detectable. I said it’s hard to detect, not impossible, that’s a huge difference.

The boss is NOT on par with the other bosses in this instance and not you or anyone else can say he is. Once again, to try to say he is fine is to make the argument that the other bosses need to be just as hard as he is, if you do not, you’re being a hypocrite, plain and simple. Not being disrespectful its just the way I see it.

Yes, I think most other bosses in Arah should be buffed a litte cause they are way to easy.

If you think this boss needs to be the benchmark then you ARE an elitist jerk (pun in reference to the website). People like you are what takes the fun out of a game. You like to stand on your soap box and proclaim to the world how easy everything is for you, therefore everyone needs to rise up to your level right? Your narcissism is obvious. You and everyone like you that says “Oh its too easy” are freaking annoying man. Hopefully we can all rise to your level of play.

I did this Instance yesterday around 9pm….I just did it again today at 3pm….are you telling me the DR on this instance is more than 12 hours? If so, that is just plain STUPID.

12 Hours is hardly farming. As a matter of fact, its been longer than 12 hours…WTH batman?

mercury ranique.2170:

There are a lot of renown heart npc that sell them for karma after you finished their heart. The stats differ from one to the other, so best is to look them up, to get one near your level with the stats you want: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Breathing_apparatus (click the name of the vendor to see a list he is selling and what the stats are)

Thx!