I have started seeing some IRON people, but no concentrated guild groups yet, at least not where we are
Though the zerg has grown in size and gotten better, making it more fun for us too
Augury has also appeared in force now, hello!
We are on AR borderlands, as always, if you want a challenge feel free to go up against us, just took garrison from you guys. :P
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
Hello proud people of Desolation. I am one of the guys who handles recruitment and i wouldn’t say we alienate people. Of the last month’s 100 something applications a total of 5 were declined for either not being able to be on TS during WvW sessions or demonstrated that they do not understand the english language enough to understand what we are asking of them.We are a guild of people who like to play WvW and openly welcome anyone who wishes to join us. We work with a ton of smaller guilds if you already have not realized this, and its not like its a closed group, all you have to do is get in contact with us.
Its okay if you don’t want to be in a huge WvW guild, join a smaller one. AA, LOR , SHC or JuG for example are relatively small guilds that play a huge part in WvW.
If you think Desolation has any hopes of winning without organisation you are wrong, horribly wrong. WvW isn’t a place to go and do whatever you feel like, that isn’t how games are won. And the moment we offer you the organisation the server has been longing for you turn around and start calling us elitist. Elitist for wanting you all to work together? If you don’t want to work together with other people go roll an alt and level or go play a single player game. You are hogging up the ques from people who would like to actually contribute and win.
If you want to win in WvW you have to work together. Here is your chance. Don’t throw it away. Stop this bickering, you have much more important things to do.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
standard damage from glass cannon thief. just evade it next time
Stealthing heal > Immobilize poison > Steal > Cloak and Dagger > Damage Signet > Backstab
Your stunbreaker reflexes have to be that of an interrupt ranger in GW to get out of that alive. Or tank gear….or any traits that make you immune to damage on X health.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
/signed
It also need to actually follow people not go in a straight line, i find myself juking d/d eles constantly by running in one direction for a short time to make the AI think my trajectory is in that area.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
You can get up to 33% increased movement speed, meaning you can never go over swiftness speed.
They are working properly you just cant stack them all at once.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
Good thing you got that on tape, perhaps ANet will understand how broken and hackable this game is and make it better for all of us. Currently its just a bunch of hackers making servers hate eachother.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
We got owned on the weekends especially during the nights if you look at it though. And to be honest you meet no opposition on at least 1 borderland during the day aswell.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
@Cipaku You can not be serious.
The most we have filled up this week is 2 borderlands, we hardly have the people you guys have you should be well aware of this by now. With the people we have we are doing amazingly and its not like our nightcapping is being done by oceanic players, most of the people who do it on our server just stay up overnight because we want to win.
Do you think its the first time we see organised servers? We faced Farshiv afterall and NUG is very impressive in terms of organisation. You guys have been doing some amazing plays and we were surprised that you were this organised but its hardly something we have never seen.
Running and hiding like rats? If we are running and hiding like rats how exactly did we “bite the hand that feeds us”?
Great ramble mate, but it is so factually incorrect you should just take a moment and edit you post. Its been a terribly frustrating week for all of us due to these hackers from every direction but you have some very misplaced anger.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
I can confirm there was a hacker as i heard from my guild. I am unable to provide any more information as I wasn’t there. But i can confirm AH and the Orb are totally legit along with the initial keep cap which is linked with taking the orb. This happened at a later point of time.
Also hiding mesmers is part of the WvW metagame, you cant blame everything on hackers.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
IRON reported them, they were the same hackers from Seafarers as we found out later, they instructed us to take the portal and we give you guys a formal apology for what happened. We don’t condone hacking and we hope these hackers are removed from the game. It wasn’t us and the Seafarer’s Alliance can confirm this.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
@The Monk
We haven’t claimed to be top tier because we aren’t pretentious. We let actions speak for them selves. We hardly spend time AFKing in the spawn spamming a horribly pretentious recruitment message. IRON and its growing group of allies have been giving results every day. Like the orb Desolation holds at this moment.
Also our commanders don’t spend most of their time farming Cursed Shore.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
I have seen A LOT of complaining about elementalists on the forums…and by a lot I mean pretty much every post.
So I tried it out, right now I am level 25. Yeah I started off a little rocky but right now I have taking on 3-4 things 2 levels above me with little to no problems.
The only thing that I could say is annoying is the amount of effort needed to take mobs on compared to other classes, but I don’t really feel as kittened as everyone makes it out to be.
So lets here from everyone, both good and bad.
List something you hate, or list something you love….good experiences and bad experiences.
If you just come in here and go “OMG THEY SUCK” and don’t back it up, no one will take you seriously, so please think about what you type.
Thanks!
Everyone can kite PvE mobs, its another deal to be just plain worse than most classes at just about anything. WvW and SPvP wise its a nightmare.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
To be quite honest, I think you’re all overreacting a bit. Yes, there are some things about the Elementalist that don’t work well. And yes, good player skill can compensate for most of those shortcomings.
The problem is when you meet someone at the same skill level as you playing another class. What do you think happens? You still come short.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
@Cerise.9045 The fact that they dont rise above other classes in group situations perhaps? Guardians do the same thing and are far more tanky while doing it.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
This ability only worked properly in earth where it was able to resurrect 3 targets from the dead every time. This was my favorite utility since it gave an unique utility to the elementalist in a WvW situation . Guardians had impassable walls, mesmers had portals and elementalists had the power to resurrect . Its absurd that they would take this unique – snowflake ability away from us. Really ArenaNet, you just cant understand you didn’t give us much else that is actually a unique utility to bring into a fight, didn’t you? AND DON’T SAY SUMMONED WEAPONS. Those are absolutely unviable and the earlyer you admit it the more people will still be interested in playing this complex but not even close to rewarding profession.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
@Nocturn
If you really honestly market yourself as a WvW guild at all i would expect you guys to deliver to the proud people of Desolation a great victory on Desolation borderlands where we understood you were going to be in the first place.
Give a credible reason for calling yourself a TOP TIER WvW guild and show us what you can do. Deliver to us Desolation Garrison and keep it from morning till dawn, make your server proud.
Don’t give up just because we are last. As a wise man once said -
“When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade – make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your kitten lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I’m going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!”
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
@Zid We can’t be everywhere at once and we try and keep what we have on one borderland, this requires a big investment of money and time the pugs are unable to do for some peculiar reason.
@Brunners We have the people its just noone wants to do that first push to get the first keep.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
While the ridiculous amount of cheating is indeed appalling, Desolation is not losing due to that. Just check the WvW maps and you will see that, at almost every hour of the day (except maybe a couple hours of prime time) we can only fight in EB and one borderland, with the other two having little to no Desolation presence.
We simply don’t have enough WvW players anymore, and this after less than two months from game release.
The issue isn’t that we don’t have WvW players its that other “WvW” guilds are slacking in bulk.
We at IRON and our allies SHC, AA and Yum are holding down one borderland but thats about all we can do. Guilds that title theirselves “top tier WvW guilds” (you know who i am talking about lol) aren’t doing absolutely anything to fix the situation on the other maps. WE HAVE THE PLAYERS but we don’t have the people to kickstart the ques, noone wants to play on a map where you are pinned down in your spawn. The sad part is that these big guilds have the same mentality as pugs and join into the borderland where we are doing fine and creating a stupidly large que.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
This is urgent and has to be fixed. There are two orbs on Desolation borderland. One is in the desolation garrison and the other one was placed back up north. We recieved the bonus from placing it at the Garrison. Then the one up north got taken and we lost the bonus from the garrison and that one essentially became “the right one”. A GM has to come in immediately and fix this. Thank you.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
I have to admit that the elementalist profession is broken. It has been broken and seemingly will remain broken until ANet finally realizes that it is broken, which it has not. There is REALLY only 1 viable high tier tournament play spec to go (healing power staff tank), the damage specs are atrocious since they trade off more defensive utilities to do this damage than any other profession. There are way too many traits that just bluntly give you movement speed but if you really wanted mobility you could never go over swiftness speed anyway since that is the movement speed cap. They have yet to understand how broken building a burst based elementalist is.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
The class is very well designed but not rewarding at all to play. That is my opinion on it after around 200 something tournament games. The only actually viable role in high tier tournament play is to be a water staff tank/support ele. Your d/d burst is easily avoidable for a good player and scepter tank/condition builds are pretty iffy compared to lets say a condition ranger. Focus is not even a viable offhand in competitive pvp because dagger outmatches it in almost everything other than the ability to make yourself unkillable for a few seconds.
It has its ups and downs but i personally find myself to be less frustrated by all the other classes. Having to manage all you have as an elementalist to get even close to killing a pistolwhip spec 1v1 no matter what kind of a trait/weapon combo you go is ridiculously frustrating.
Edit: Also ever since they nerfed Dragon’s Tooth and Flame Grip playing a burst elementalist feels very, very underpowered. Used to be that you could 1shot a bad player with berserkers when you did your full burst. :/ Now only every other damage spec is able to do that. Also not having access to quickness forces you to take 2 arcane spells for doing burst damage, which is the meta right now, making it annoying as hell.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
The amount of mad people in this thread over an approved strategy is too kitten high!
On an off note they really need to fix the loading bug, kind of weird how they havent managed it yet.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
@Luterin If our servers really had night players we wouldn’t be losing in the first place, should we start recruiting nocturnal people from real life? Is that what you are suggesting? 0.o
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
The grenadiers kept spawning after pulling the second boss, the waves of 4 grenadiers are so hard to kill they spawn even before the other one is killed, they do not dissapear when they run to the far back of the room.
You can’t possibly expect people to KILL these things every wave when they keep on coming. I think my full exotic group wiped about 12 times before giving up when the grenadiers spawned on the second boss and wiped us.
This makes this dungeon the leakittenn and most frustrating dungeon in the game since dont get me wrong, i have killed the last boss in the 1st path but it takes a million wipes even with a well geared group.
You could assume that if players played well you shouldn’t wipe even once in a dungeon but i don’t see how it is possible in this dungeon with not bugging the grenadier spawn.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
I don’t buy the ‘ego’ argument. It’s more of a trolling thing. Pure Jimmy Rustlin’.
Most of the good guilds fled Desolation. The last thing you want as an organised WvW guild is to have guildies face four hour queues before they can join your outfit. Desolation at the moment lacks organized guilds. Any group of players seeking to get organized will end up transfering elsewhere due to the queues making organized play impossible. So what you then have left is a tsunami of pug players who abuse the transfer system to join the ‘winning team’. Though without a backbone of organized guilds, the server will eventually fall apart as the server is no longer able to compete within its own bracket and the pugs flee to the next ‘winner’.
There is IRON and we have around 40-50 players on one borderland at daily peak times, the que times are much shorter than they used to be, especially on a borderland where your team isn’t doing that well. Infact we have no problem with que times at all, most of the day there isn’t a que. Only when we ramp out the IRON pain train does the borderland actually start having a considerable around 20 minute que.
If you actually bothered to look at the borderlands traffic post from Arenanet you would already know this. But instead you made a horribly uninformed post, good job.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
We aren’t taking a week off Corran, we are just doing LESS WvW daily, its very tiring to log on at 10 AM and go to sleep at 12 PM and for Cyanide to lead a WvW group all that time. I think you would understand how tiring it is also for the rest of the guild to maintain a high level of dedication. By going casual for a week means we don’t poke and prod at our members to get into WvW but rather poke and prod them to do whatever they want to to get geared up and a whole mountain of golems stacked. :P
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
I was matched with Desolation a couple of times when they were still in the top bracket, they couldnt defend against our superior tactics and quality army though.
It’s clearly your “superior tactics and quality army” winning the matches for you
Try again buddy.
Yeah in truth he is right, we are pretty evenly matched with Farshiv even when they have the infamous NUG but the main problem is that Vizunah Square has 24 hour coverage and 500 man ques per borderland at peak times.
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
We already have an organised alliance and we already seem to be fine on our own. We do however promote the creation of an alliance to support another borderlands.
-IRON at AR Borderland
For the night is dark and full of nightcappers.
[IRON] – Desolation
The Iron Triangle
. I kinda enjoyed it when I could just jump to any map any time I wanted.
