Guild Wars 2

papry.8096:

Ring.6928:

papry.8096:

Ring.6928:

Because PVE is hard. #WhineWars2

That’s my choice

Let’s blame a net for our decisions.

Take a snipet of my argument and make it look like I’m just whinning that’s some intellectual integrity.

I’m applauding you.

Thanks, and you’re welcome. Seems like I needed to point out the keywords that made your post garbage.

Unlike oblivion, that’s some constructive kitten right there. 10/10 ( unlike OP)

papry.8096:

Ring.6928:

Because PVE is hard. #WhineWars2

That’s my choice

Let’s blame a net for our decisions.

Because PVE is hard. #WhineWars2

I feel sorry for people who grind in this game. Which you don’t really need to for these armors unless you want it all on the first week.

Unless you fractal a lot or plan on going to 50+ the stats are not that much high than exotics, people losing their kitten over a few stat points should go back to WoW.

So Fighting against zerks of players is considered Environment ? … wtf anet lol

Will this ever happen? this will be the 2nd time I’ll be getting shafted in PVE just because Anet is trying to balance crap for PVP/WVW. Is it really that hard? You would think an “innovative” MMO would have this by now, from what I hear from GW1 players the skills in that game for pvp and pve were separate.

I used to play Dungeon Fighter Online a Side scrolling beat em up game and they had different stats depending whether you were in a dungeon,PVP, and warzone ( never got released anyways but yeah it was there).

TBH most of the changes are good, but these changes seem to be made BECAUSE of PVP/WVW while PVE builds get no love. I’m talking about thieves in general, anet doesnt want them to evade over and over? wtf? might as well play a warrior and tankface everything then.

EDIT: by separate skills I mean the same skills just reworked in description and changed to balanced pvp gameplay, not another whole different set of skills.

Right outside of LA in Bloodtide, near the whispers place.

I felt like my build needed …something else to improve it, kinda disappointed we really can’t get much better than this but at least it helped me understand some more mechanics behind engineers. awesome thread.

I came back to the game and found out about these.

Not only can only people who did the event get quartz crystals unless oyu buy em off the TP but it takes a whole month for an EXOTIC armor set? WTF Anet.

username.4932:

Disapointing to see Anet asking feedback and doing the exact opposite of the community feedback, they are just spitting in our face.

How the hell do you think gardian community asked for more DPS (everyone asks supports and heal buff) ?

How the hell can’t you read the reports everywhere about healing power stuff being useless and people willing to use it for something really useful ?

What’s the point asking user feedback if you don’t read it ?

This.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH9JjnaW3rE

like my friend said, Warriors, better guardians than guardians.

So you want thieves to be less stealthy and more up in people’s faces? Might as well roll a warrior, because now it sounds like we have to put 20 points on Acrobats as a staple to survive without stealth and initiative upkeep.

However this is speaking without having tested the new rate of initiative gain of one per second. But for now it seems like everything keeps getting nerfed but p/d.

Girion.5483:

I really wish sword #1 wouldn’t root us in place. A change that #1 chain skills and animations are interrupted upon dodge attempt, would be much appreciated.

Only reason I dislike sword. can’t even dodge out of an easy to evade hit. Gotta use other sword’s skills if my zephyr is on cooldown.

YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE GREAT ANET? SEPARATING PVP AND PVE SKILLS PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

Bawi.9541:

this game really has one of the brightest communities ever. and im not talking about the troll op

You obviously think the OP is trolling. He already started a move on this on LA Map chat. It is unacceptable. Some people need to get a life.

You just have nothing better else to do but find something to kitten about something.

I always forget to use it tbh and when I use it they don’t change much, just help me survive a bit more too depending on what Im eating.

I hope they do something abotu people stacking in dungeons too, makes the runs boring.

Navi.7142:

Not sure about Drakkar-Lake, but it might be Quatl becomes our new and second Karka Queen. ^^
Or at least a weekend dragon.

Oh, and the screen was really impressive, Quatl looks better now. Really liked the improved appearance! ;-)

The new screen for sparkfly fen is inaccurate, it should be mostly half naked females vs a dragon.

a restored orr huh … that sounds like a fascinating idea… that would really feel like we are actually done something in the world, new players to the personal story? well the personal stories are already instanced so why not an old orr instance for people doing the story still?

I’m pretty sure no one will miss the “epic” final boss battle with Zaithan anyways.

Morbridae.8607:

imho, the problem here is that you don’t enjoy the game per sé, but rush through it trying to get every achievement. Stop running, and start enjoying this beautiful game. Enter the LS and read the story, and if you complete it or don’t, is secondary.

This right here, I really loved the first Adventure Box it was amazing.

But this time around I paid attention to the achievements, my god some of the secrets shops were too kittening cryptic to find without a kitten guide. They get frustrating. One of my friends hates SAB so much (and eventually pretty much 90% of my guild too) she just rushed trough the content to get the achievements and get off.

I liked tribulation mode more because the achievements were pretty much just clearing the kitten thing and visiting shops. While normal mode was a kitten scavenger hunt instead of a world with some secrets for people who like to explore ( like my friend and I) but there’s a difference between Simon’s quest cryptic and just sorta hidden with maybe some patterns leading to conclude something is a secret.

PS: I love jumping puzzles and nintendo-hard games. but regular SAB was just a frustrating event to do.

PPS: I miss mad king’s clock tower, was a bit disappointed that content was taken out, I wasn’t used to how GW2 events work. But at the same time I love how they make the game feel dynamic even with minor stuff like that destruction and repair of the lion’s arc statue.

Not just afros, I would like to see more hairstyles in general, wouldn’t mind if they were on the gem shop either ( not for 800gems each though)

Wolf.5816:

I’m still holding out for Skritt. I don’t care about lagistics, I just want Skritt.

I’d play the kitten out of skritt and their personal story.

Kodan, Tengu and the sea butterflies would be cool too though.

Just so you know, not everyone and their grandmothers go for ascended gear, just saying.

I agree with cultural armor however.

I carry all weapons with me at all times with both builds I made for my thief. really like pistol whipping and unloading bosses, but when they have low HP … heartseeking em really hurts em.

Khemizt.5104:

“I only played WOW for a grand total of 45 minutes before I got bored and closed it. "

Then how did you get through 10 minutes of this?

The promises of a different game made me endure the first 10 minutes of this. Totally worth it.

MasterJake.9375:

It Krytan armor from the gem store I believe. 700 gems to buy it.

500 actually. (: thanks +1

It’s soul bound right?

Yeah TC seems full a lot gonna have to snipe in a slot.

Old games like Contra, Castlevania, Golden axe, ninja turtles in time all that good beat em up and platformer stuff.

Last system I owned was an xbox. Still play my old games, as for computer games just Diablo 2, and Silkroad took along time from me, then Dungeon Fighter Online until I got hacked and banned.

Friend got me into the mass effect series and a few popular games like L4D2 and whatnot. But mainly I still play my Castlevania games, no lord of shadows bullkitten though.

Oh yeah, love GW2 for some reason and got a friend with almost the same background as me into this game.

Tired of Dragonbrand being empty as kitten, anyone know where I can find lots of people for PVE? Been told Jade quarry and Tarnished Coast are good options.

Lara.6740:

WHERE is the third event starting???

“This is it: the final battle against the fierce Ancient Karka on the brand-new Southsun Cove map”

It says to be there at noon pst – but what is the specific starting point?
I can’t find anything. The whole event has been like this – missed all the story lines.

Fustrating – poorly communicated.

You sound like some of my guildies, learn to read what NPCs say…unless they break :/

GregT.4702:

platforming mechanics it handles poorly. Agreed.

Wait whut? What do you mean it handles it poorly? I dont understand.

I find this game pretty fun. You should go back to older MMOs or something.

This only happens to me on my necromancer using a scepter.

I always play on fullscreen because that;s the only way I can up my brightness in game.
But when I record a video like this one.

or take a picture everything i so much…darker. I tried uppingm y gamma on my monitor and it only hurts my eyes, anyone else know how I can fix this?

With the fix of shadow refuge this sounds more than possible. Sign me up. I will get a computer than can run WvW smoothly in about 2 weeks.

I vote for Dragon Brand.

How about Order of Shadows?

phor.7952:

But who cares really. That build was never practical. It left you completely and utterly worthless outside of a single setup every 45 seconds.

Because Mugging is the only way to get to a mob.

Cal.1985:

Oh my god… do you read the patchnotes? They actually separated a guardian skill from PvE/sPvP. So tell me how they are not doing that?

Can you please explain me do you waith 30 seconds to start killing mobs?! There are so much better things you can put on the skill bar for PvE… anyway. The change does NOT affect the PvE game as much it does the PvP one, so why it should be separated?

Only read thief and ranger.

Draxius.7839:

An MMO that never changed anything would get pretty boring, pretty fast. Would you rather them have just hit backstab’s damage? Or just hit the assassin’s signet with a 25% reduction?

tbh yes, I would’ve prefer it to signet down to 25% or 30% that;s how they nerf’d pistol whip.

Draxius.7839:

The game is going to change, it’s in its infancy – The fact you put some time into considering the build is good, but things are going to get changed – Things change in every game.

In PvE dual pistols are.. pretty bad. I’m happy this’ll make them better, especially with the signet change for Overload. Shortbow was good for calling in large packs of mobs and general ranged use, S/P was ok, I liked D/D better though.

People always say “You need to keep PvP and PvE separate”, but this doesn’t actually hurt PvE. In fact, it makes it better. It just makes a specific build slightly less fast at frontloading damage into mobs. I’m at work, but my guess is instead of killing a mob in 3 seconds with BS Smackdown, it now takes 4. Likewise, doing P/P and D/D probably takes 4 seconds instead of 5, so you’re still getting a fine trade out of the deal. You’re not actually killing things any slower than any other thieves.

Except my initiative is being drained more now. Something P/D Also did a good job on saving, but I don’t like being ranged much.

I see what you were trying to tell me on the first post you responded to me. It’d get boring down the road and until the end of time if they don’t nerf or buff something to make different playstyles right ? …. :/ now that sounds like the kind of free MMOs I played before coming here…

Welp back to wasting time trying out different sets of weapons again and wasting money going back and forth retraining skills.

Draxius.7839:

@Ring – You said it yourself, the thing you were doing where you simply kill a mob in 3 seconds doesn’t work any more. The next step is adapting and doing something different.

My build was something different. Everyone in PVE i see running around with dual pistols and S/P. Sometimes D/D and very few bow for some reason.

So after spending alot of time pondering which traits would be best for the kind of playstyle I wanted I just get kittened in the kitten and have to adapt to kitten being inserted this time? That’s just BS.

Again they need to keep PVP and PVE stuff separate.

Redscope.6215:

Glad they changed sin sig and didn’t nerf backstab. They made the right choice.

Advice to bad thieves:

• Roll another class and learn how powerful the thief is
• Stop running gimmick builds, when they get nerfed you won’t be upset
• Spend more time on the game and less on the forums, you’ll get better at playing it

1) I have other classes, love my engineer and ranger also.
2) So we can’t follow our own builds and be like every other game where we have to sheep follow someone else’s build. I thought GW2 wasn’t that kind of game.
3) This is my first time on the forum because ever since I bought the game, it gave me an error when trying to log in for the forums so I never tried again till last night when the patch hit and was really mad about it. So I didn’t know a nerf was coming.

You might wanna rethink your baseless assumptions.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Assassin-Signet-down-to-15/first#post510850

kitten off, just because it’s not fun for you doesn’t mean it’s not for other people.

Draxius.7839:

mrsrachelm.7618:

And once again, my thief build is made that much more difficult in PvE because of PvP play. To ArenaNet: Not everyone PvP’s ya know!

I agree.

How can your build be more difficult in PvE because of this? Did you rely on signet backstabbing world mobs?

Yes. CD> BS > 111> heart seeker for weaker enemies and sometimes just finish off with CD to move on to the next mob and backstab it. It’s what made stealth builds worth it. Now we have to find something else because it took me longer than 3 seconds to finish off a mob now.

those little 111’s have kitteny dmg with only a +15% increase in dmg I rather just leave the signet on for passive than spending it. Losing precision and movement speed for more stacks of might just ain’t worth it either.

Draxius.7839:

samanosuke.4508:

mrsrachelm, I disagree. If anything this will benefit you in pve if you do mob farming etc.

^

This cannot possibly make PvE builds worse, unless the sole purpose of your PvE build relied on signet backstabbing things, and that sounds like misery itself.

This change makes PvE farming/questing much faster and effective.

for other builds maybe that don;t rely on quick strong hits while stealthing a lot.

Iron Wolf.5973:

Im glad you caught on to that. I was going to be worried all night long that it woudl go over your head.

Way I see it, this change was a side step at worst. The damage is spaced out now, instead of consolidated. It means that no, you wont insta kill someone, but still has quite high power output anyways. Whether this fits your view on assassination or not, this is a game, and there has to be limitations at some point. I dont think anyone would be crying over the backstab issue IF every class had some build that did the exact same thing. But since that isnt the case, the combination of things made it to favorable and to easy for thieves. This change was long coming and necessary. If that ruins your play style, then sorry. I guess youll either have to roll something else, or try another play style.

I wasn’t being a smartass. That was a horrible example. Stop assuming I’m kitten or you can go kitten yourself.

I am complaining about the name and why couldn’t they just keep it that way for PVE? So much for trying to keep skills good for PVE and PVP. I’m just kitten that they took a kitten on a build I started to like now I have to change it, maybe go back to pistol/dagger since surprise shot does around 5 hits. Or just do longer combos that will leave me dry of initiative when fighting more than one mob….might as well just spam 1 like a kitten everywhere.

Iron Wolf.5973:

Well, if we really one to go by the concept of assassination, they should have just changed assassins signet to stealth you and causing yoru next attack to deal 100% of the enemy HP before armor/reductions. Oh and lets also not forget if you do it from behind, it cnat be blocked evaded or interrupted.

That sounds like assassination to me, but you know, people might think its a bit unfair.

It sounds like exaggeration to me. Good try though.

metaphorm.6904:

read people. READ THE NOTES.

Previous: +50% for 1 Strike

New: +15% for 5 Strikes

I wasn’t aware I could back stab 5 times consecutively.

Well there goes my build to the kitten. really kitten off about this update. Might as well call it Mighty Signet since that;s all it’s good for, 5 stacks of kittening might.

I heard alot of people crying about it in PVP apparently, couldnt they just keep it in PVE?

Iron Wolf.5973:

In a nutshell, by splitting it instead of 1 massive attack to many strong attacks, it gives about the same damage, just takes longer to do it allowing the enemy to react.

of course maybe Im just bein short sighted. I never used assassins signet. So that change doesnt bother me in the slightest.

Doesn’t feel like “assassin’s” signet anymore. Assassin’s don’t wail on their enemies like warriors, one big hit then finish ’em off with a few strikes. But now it takes me longer to take down some tough mobs.