Guild Wars 2

Dahkeus.8243:

Aww, so they made “Search and Rescue” port your ally to your location. I was hoping you’d get an animation of your pet dragging their body to you. Mechanically, this is a great change, but as much as I shouldn’t have expected a new animation to be added, I’m still sad not to see this, lol.

That would be hilarious! Imagine if they brought back the Bristleback Godzilla bug that was in BWE3 and then used it!

Its really great, most especially “Guard”. Seems like a great utility to pop at those hairs-breadth moments.

Also if you run Resounding Timbre, you bring that 30s CD to 24s, which is super fluid considering what the shouts actually do now.

Decent changes Anet, hows about taking a look at dat der sword auto?

Guard is sitting at 24 sec cd for me?

Edit: Resounding timbre lol… still, if you do trait for it, 24s is not that bad.

Predators onslaught though, thats a real nice buff. The shouts also seem much better – but could still use some work to make them worthy choices over other stuff with the exception of Guard which could be amazing depending on Might output. Overall an improvement for Rangers.

1: “Ranger too stronk, 400% nerf immediately with no second thoughts ples”
2: “Mercenary amulet OP! What idiot thought this was a good idea?!”
3: All class sub forums saying their class is dead and Anet is biased

…Then a week or so will pass and everyone will be chill again. So it goes…

Sorel.4870:

There is no opinion to be had. Your math looks solid Henry. Thank you for opening my eyes on the matter.

And the award for funniest forum post of the month goes to…!

Most assuredly not.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

what a perfect way to describe the Ranger.

Yes, I do.

/15 chars

hey we still have WHaO though right?

Anet are a complete joke. They have done nothing as of recent that has really made the majority of people happy. HoT is a waste of time, masteries are a waste of time, the Druid is a waste of time, PvP is currently a waste of time, dungeons and fractals also both a waste of time. Shame it’s too late to get a refund, or wait… was that planned?

laokoko.7403:

The thing is you are comparing GW2 to stand alone MOBA such as LOL or DOTA.

That’s like comparing GW2 personal story to skyrim or fallout.

If you just compare GW2 pvp to other mmorpg pvp, it is actually really good already.

comparing it to gw1 pvp, it is, in my humble opinion, worse. for the reasons i previously stated.

i really feel like this is completely unnecessary, there are far more important issues in PvP to be dealt with and instead, a dev decides to communicate with us about this?

Guild wars 1’s PvP worked well because of 1 simple thing. PvE and PvP were balanced separately, something this game is in sore need of. I have read around here a few times that ANet agree to this statement, but say it’s too much work to implement. If this is true, then it’s just pure laziness and they should be content with the knowledge it will never be an E-sport.

I don’t think it being “spectator friendly” is actually as big a thing as you make it out to be. In my experience, people watch games that they themselves play…

I tried to watch a StarCraft tournament final once and gave up 5 minutes into the game because I had no idea what was going, and that is arguably the biggest E-sport out there.

Sure, allow for more visibility and improve spectator options, but that alone I think is one of the smallest things that will affect whether or not this game becomes an Esport. We need class balance, we need it differentiated from PvE, we need more game types that require both tactics and strategy (there is a difference, tactics allow you to achieve your strategy). This could be simple things like making positioning more important (like a ranger lb shooting further if he’s high up, which is genius by the way). Improved mechanics, and MORE mechanics that have variety, can be manipulated by players and built around.

Thats just my 2 cents anyway.

If it IS a bug, I see no reason not to keep it

It’s hardly game breaking, just really opens up the class and lets us be diverse again, like we were in gw1. From what I’ve experienced of it, I do not feel OP at all, just that little bit more effective. Something the class has really needed. If you really felt it necessary to off-set this, add a slightly larger recharge time to skill 3.

slightly, anet, SLIGHTLY. We don’t need your 400% impact drill to blast its way through CA.

Voice of reality here: Not having any problem using the staff. It doesn’t feel clunky, in fact it feels like it barely changed. If you had the time in your life to stand OOC in PvE (because you definitely don’t in PvP) to recharge your AF before heading into battle, I must question it is what you do in life. It doesn’t take long to build up AF in combat, and you would be mad to enter combat with CA on. I’ve found that by the time you’ve built it up, you’re just about ready to use it. It works well.

Dont forget that Ele flame burst also cannot be used without a target. I’m aware that isn’t their staff AA, but it shows that this isn’t just a sole treatment for Ranger.

I do agree however that the Devs certainly seem lazy in the way they “fix” things. The whole HoT expansion is a joke really.

I’ve been having my kitten handed to me by warriors pretty much all day tbh.

inb4 learn2play

Seth.1079:

Such a great thread

ANET this is what Rangers medium armor should look like! so wild and survivaly.

It’s posts like these that is the reason the devs don’t listen to us.

Why would we have missed this?

Cheers for this Irenio Just know that I love you and I think you’re doing a great job.

Just a little reminder: Sword AA and Shouts.

luv you <3

Koru, in time you will realise how incredibly usefull an on demand stealth field is for the Ranger. Before they changed it to smoke assault, people were actually saying ranger will be viable again because of it. Now they’ve changed it back we can all rejoice.

…however, for PVP I would like to have the option to choose smoke field and smoke assault. The same should be for all pets.

EnderzShadow.2506:

Does your blood pressure get higher with each question I ask?

I haven’t made up my mind. That’s why I asked the question.

I surely wouldn’t make up my mind with one example.

I’ll give you another then, WHaO.

Please do not forget about how anet likes to handle these things. It was said by a dev recently (apologies, I forget the name) that they prefer to nerf something into near oblivion (which if we’re being honest here its not that extreme) until they can figure out how to safely bring it back into the game. They normally do this incrementally, long term. If we’ve learnt anything by now it’s that anet are a very. . . Patient company. Give it time gentlemen and ladyfolk, don’t forget that hating the Ranger and actively trying to destroy it, as you all seem to believe, doesn’t actually benefit them at all as a business.

Its not even that bad, the events pretty fun and gives loads of mastery XP. Instead of complaining about it here, why don’t you actually go do it? Trying to force the devs to do YET ANOTHER thing for us, especially as trivial as this, when they’re already snowed in by everything else is poor form in my opinion.

How have we still not found these two yet? Come on Rangers pick up the pace :P

I have been searching Dragons Stand for close to 2 hours now and I’ve not seen hide nor tail. I’ve personally ruled it out for their locations, but theres every chance I’m blind and have missed them.

Tangled Depths is my next search point. (I’m doing it backwards I know)

This is bullkitten. The MINUTE the Ranger gets something good, the masses scream “Nerf omg!”

Honestly you dealt with an OP ele for months, you can deal with a somewhat deadly Pet. Stop calling to nerf our main kittening mechanic.

Tanky? I almost guarantee you aren’t even targeting it. Remember they take 95% less damage from everything now unless you target it. Same with all pets.

If you want something nerfed, call at the chrono gravity well, or the reaper in general. Also remember that druid is kittened atm? Don’t even look at the rangers general direction if you want to call nerf.

Stop whining and kittening about stuff, that’s all I see in these kitten forums at the moment. Sure the pet could be retuned here and there, but instead of just screaming “do something” actually provide WAYS HOW. Give good feedback, not knee-jerk feedback that immediately over-exaggerates everything and makes it sound far worse than it is, this was why WHaO got ruined for 2 weeks in less than 24 hours.
One more thing, stop attempting to balanceor nerf kitten in a vacuum. Get some kitten protection or something or put some toughness on your class instead of full zerk or Condi power.

Once won a game with 3 rangers and two thieves 500-420

A lot of you are talking about a LB ranger which, recently, has started to lose favour. Most Rangers today are carrying condi builds or GS/S+A builds, and as a Ranger I can tell you how easy it is to beat a LB user with one of the above.

Rangers straight up aren’t so useless anymore. We’ve learnt and adapted and now we’re being made stronger. In fact, in PvE at least, if it weren’t for our spirits being immobile (which may not matter soon anyway thanks to minion invuln) we’d be kitten near the best support the game has to offer when Druid comes. a slight DPS boost (which will come through power creep I have no doubt, as history has told us) and we’re golden.

SlayerSixx.5763:

All it takes is one guardian, thief, mesmer, or warrior to completely shut that ranger down.

This is possibly one of the more ignorant things I’ve seen on the forums around here. Thieves are very easily defeated by Ranger due to one skill a lot of power Rangers are taking these days and thats Sic Em. Guardians, well most are either bunker or burn guards and bunker guards can’t kill kitten. Burn guards can go down easy enough due to Rangers good Condi cleanse (It’s not sustained condi cleanse, but you don’t need that against a burn guard) and just straight dps. Warriors are countered pretty well with just stability, which ranger has good access to through 2 frequently taken skills, SoW and SotP. Mesmers are the only things I tend to struggle with but that could just be me.

Rangers can also run builds that allows them to sustain against 2 foes (more if you get lucky) for quite some time. Provided a Ranger knows what he’s doing and isn’t a scrub straight outta the pan, I think a lot of you will consider taking one sooner than you think.

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

Hey all,

As we hurtle toward launch most of my time is locked into Druid and Scrapper changes.

After much tribulation I was able to make a change to WHAO to remove the static boon stack application on Might and Stability stacks being copied; this was actually a fairly difficult change to implement as we don’t really have support for copying boons with preset durations.

This’ll go in with the 23rd.

Does this mean we can stack more than 3 might in one go now or something completely different? pls I need an adult

Kodiak.3281:

Levetty.1279:

I think he’s talking about the length of time. We are still waiting for D/D ele to br brought down to balanced levels after it existing for a year (the June patch actually buffed it). The weaker boon stacking Ranger build is being nerfed after a day.

Speaking of Elementalists you really don’t see an uproar over the Burning Nerfs on the Elementalists do you? Know why? Because everyone knew it was a bit crazy and people been talking a long time about Burning and how Burning is going to get nerfed at some point after the stacking changes.

Why you people are surprised that your crazy permanent swiftness, protection, fury, quickness, etc is getting nerfed is beyond me. Did anyone really think it’s normal? Did you really think going, “Ooo Ooo The Elementalist is OP! Really! Elementalist!!!11” was going to work as some convincing argument?

There are 9 classes in this game (or will be soon). If anyone is really all that miserable with a class the only thing stopping you from playing a class you think you will enjoy is yourself. Take a break and go play an Elementalist until HOT releases. See if you feel the same about how OP they are afterwords.

Ok a few things. Number 1 we do not have permanent quickness, we can get about 14 seconds out of it (PRACTICALLY) at most.

Perma swiftness on a ranger has been a thing for a long time now

Perma fury has been a thing on a ranger for a long time now

It’s not about making a convincing argument out of blaming the elementalist, it’s about creating a comparison in power and how actually, what Rangers have atm is NOTHING when you think about it.

Lastly, we play a class because it appeals to our nature as humans. I’m not gonna go roll an elementalist to get a taste of what “OP” feels like because I think caster classes are girly and lame. I went with a Ranger because the idea of a Ranger hits me in all the right places. Also, I shouldn’t HAVE to go play an Elementalist to know what OP feels like, by very definition that proves how unbalanced they are.

They already announced the fix. They’re just gonna use set boon times.

Roy already annouced the change (so yeah, they didn’t bother looking to see if we had any ideas)

They’re just gonna use fixed boon times.

This sounds ok to me as long as they don’t over do it typical ANET style and make the boons last half a second.

How are you guys doing this stuff? I’m dumb ok pls

I really like how there are still a million bugs with the Ranger class from the last balance patch and they’re gonna do another balance patch tomorrow.

I’m on the fence about it.

Part of my really likes the idea of the Druid, using nature to heal your allies and empower everyone, kind of reminds me of sage chakra from Naruto. It is cool and theres no denying it’s uses.

But it’s not how I play Ranger, and it’s not why I rolled a Ranger.

A ranger is supposed to be a man of the wild, using speed, ingenuity and skill with multiple weapons to be able to deal with any problem faced. Someone who hides in the forest and strikes at the best times and can destroy enemy resource lines before they’ve even noticed. Thats kind of what the Ranger is at the minute, but Druid is a definite change of focus from that, which is why I think the Druid should be it’s own class completely, seperate from the Ranger.

TBH, if you had just dealt with our pets, made us perfectly accepted in all game types (like a guardian is for example or a warrior) I would have been happy without an elite spec. Now that you’ve done this, and brought it out as an Elite thing, I feel like I’m forced to play Druid. I didn’t sign up for healing.

Race: Hooman
Sex: Male
Profession: Ranger
Armour set: Seeker’s Coat

This piece of armour clips with every single bit of leg armour available. I currently am using it with Leather pants, as the effect is least noticeable.

I transmuted Zoja’s Guise into it.

I would understand if it clipped with various pieces of leg armour, as game items go it’s almost unavoidable. But the fact that it clips with EVERY choice available including it’s own set (Seeker Pants) is a bit silly.

The clipping occurs on the characters left thigh, on my character it’s where the hand ends.

I’d like to see more game types. Capture the flag, king of the hill, hell even bomb disposal could be cool. OH HEY BUT FIRST MAKE A NEW CLASS BEFORE YOU FIX YOUR CURRENT ONES OK

We need the option of having no pets at all. Honestly it’s a kittening hindrance more than anything with how it is atm. Move the rangers spirit abilities to be our unique class thinggy that we control with our F buttons. Replace them in the utility skill slot with preparations (bring them back) and only give us the option of pet if we spec into beast mastery.

In-game name: Rogue Potato
Server: Yaks Bend
Game-type: PvP + fotm

I think I’ll leave the game if this doesn’t get fixed by tomorrow, seriously unplayable.

My character names always start with an adjective followed by a noun, and they must make as minimal sense as possible. I.e. Agitated Toast, Swift Napkin, Agile Rock…

Sorry, I dont play guard, what is the bug?

JUST, DO IT!

XD come on Anet, you can’t say no to Shia LaBeouf

I can’t seem to be able to open Bags of gear from SW or the new Spirit Shard bags in the PvP lobby.

Not sure if this is a bug, but I’ve not noticed it happen to me before + seems kinda odd to not let us be able to open this stuff in the lobby..

LughLongArm.5460:

Doug.9628:

every single class forum right now has posts about how this patch ruined their class. every single one. so that must mean all classes are terrible and are therefor balanced.

except for mesmers, they’r to busy deflecting all the community flame. Good thing they all moved on from LB rangers.

You must mean REFLECTING, hahahahah….no?

But I totally agree with OP here. We need some love. I feel like Anet has no direction for the Ranger, no end goal. I see us as slightly faster, less tanky warriors, but slower, more tanky thieves. We’re that middle ground, well I think we’re supposed to be. I don’t even know anymore.

Wetpaw.3487:

Hard to compare a Ranger to a Mesmer, they’re in the same mmo is about it.

Made me laugh xD

The only thing Rangers have going for them atm is that, if you like the profession, and as long as you don’t get too badly killed, it’s fun to play. I don’t understand why anet don’t just straight up remove us Rangers from the game. We add nothing to it xD

Guards currently have a 3 (or 4) skill combo which takes very little time to pull off and hits for around 30k. It involves using burning but I’m sorry I don’t know the build. I’m sure if you google around or look on meta battle it’ll show you

Also don’t panic too much. A lot of this stuff is gonna get nerfed in the very near future

TyPin.9860:

Nice try. You can scream all you like. Your stories, which provide not a hint as to what supposedly makes it so overpowered, have no weight. People would say anything to get their points across. Come here with something conclusive that actually makes sense instead of hammering out a: “Mesmer is OP”, in yet another nonconstructive way.

Look I don’t need to prove myself and I’m not screaming lol. Go join a PvP game, play a Mesmer with a burst build on and tell me they’re not OP. I’m not having a go at your beloved profession or actively trying to remove you from top tier PvP again, the game is unbalanced atm in extreme ways and I’m sure many professions are going to get nerfed. I also found it stupidly funny.

haahahahahahahahaaahahahahahahahaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha wheezing breath hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha cough cough cough hahahahahahahahahah.

I know this is already a point well made on these here forums, just thought I’d hammer that point home.

I had no prior experience to using a Mesmer in PvP. I have a lvl 80 Mesmer but I only ran her through the games storyline, never done anything competitive with her. I was struggling in PvP a lot as a Ranger lately (mostly because I am hugely incompetent at it, even though i’ve mained the class for a year and a half now) so I figured I’d change class, find a burst build, and my god is this good. First battle I had I one-shotted a Ranger, then I defeated a guardian in seconds, took out a couple of warriors easily and progressed from there. I was killing people without even realising it. Stupidly Over-powered. Think before you make a supposed “balance change” next time Anet.

“Oh but Potato Mesmers can finally compete in PvP now, you notice us more finally and people don’t like it and should find a new way to adapt to us.” Listen right, I main a Ranger. I know the pain of being kitten. But theres a difference to “being able to compete” and “kitten all of you immediately we win.” I had never played a Mesmer before in PvP and I did the best I had ever done over any class I have PvP’ed in.

Theres some Grawl up in Snowden Drifts that have voices of humans. Quite amusing.

On top of this, a lot of NPC’s in LA have different voices depending on if its idle chat or if you interact with them.

and people say rangers suck…