I find myself having to explain this every time: The “Argument from Ignorance” is a fallacy in which someone uses the lack of information to assert a claim. This generally takes the form of “X is true, prove me wrong”, but also takes the form of “How you do you know that X isn’t true?”. I.E., how do I know that Burger King and Enron aren’t related? In your particular example, you’re asserting that skipping is intentional because the OP doesn’t have concrete, irrefutable proof that it isn’t intentional. This is troll logic at its core, because you can sustain your point by being utterly indignant and defiant instead or rational and reasonable. To break it down:
Having to repeat yourself is the logical consequence of hand-picking a few lines you choose to quote out of context in an attempt to make a point. Formatting a post is there for a reason, namely because some sentences are meant to be read together. If you truly care to discuss the topic, I suggest you try that over calling people ignorant or trolls.
No, you are manipulating the mechanics hoping that whomever you’re talking to is misinformed. GW2 was designed PVP first, and as such Stealth and Swiftness were made for aggro management and active evasion. They’re meant to be used in-combat, not to avoid combat.
Kindly provide a source for that claim.
That said, skipping the quote-wars. Again, in favour of actually having a discussion, try reaching your audience by providing something that can be fluently read. Picking a sentence here and there to take out of context hardly helps.
Except everything in the dungeon wants you to defeat those enemies. Dungeon skipping is the equivalent to picking up a book, only reading the first line of every page, then saying “There’s no indications that the author mandatory wanted you to read every single word on those (lack of pages)”. It is so backward, alien, and self motivated licentious thinking that of course Anet didn’t prepare for it. Silly devs thought players would actually play the game, and spent a tremendous amount of effort at launch to make rewards homogenized throughout all PVE content. It is an interesting if not depressing history of how this was changed throughout time:
First: Dungeon rewards were end-loaded so players wouldn’t just grind the first boss.
Second: Dungeon rewards were set up daily and diminishing returns were put in place so players would run something other than CoF P1.
Third: Dungeon rewards were re-balanced to encourage players to run longer dungeons instead of the same short few.
Fourth: Champ Boxes were added to make killing champions more worthwhile, as players were just skipping them.
Fifth: World bosses received large daily rewards because players were just skipping them.
Sixth: Events were altered to give no experience and loot until completion, because players were purposefully failing events to grind them.
Seventh: Map wide currencies and progress were added to encourage players to do events for greater goal, instead of just grinding the few same easy events and champs.
The history of rewards in this game all reflect on a single fact: They aren’t happy with how we are playing their game.
The entire case for skipping is based solely on the exploitation of negative space. It isn’t about making a point, but cultivating an immunity to rebuttal. So long as you can be difficult enough to stave away all the common sense, you win. You have no point.
You seem to have abandoned stacking, so I assume that your issue is entirely with skipping then? It would have helped if you pointed that out from the beginning. Again, readability. As far as skipping goes, when it comes to playing a MMO, I think that repeatability of content takes an important role. How many times do you reread a book (the example you provided)? How many times do you redo a dungeon? To me personally, the difference is huge, therefore I see no room for comparison. I have mentioned this in my previous post, but for the sake of clarification, when I play a dungeon path for the first time, I may care about the scenery, I may care about the story and so on, however, when it comes to repeatability, rewards become paramount. As such, in order to efficiently complete the dungeon, I want to make the best use of the tools available to me – stealth and swiftness count amongst those.
Finally, I’m not sure what to make out of the points your provided. The first, second and third are completely irrelevant to skipping. Even if players could still grind the first boss, even if they could still rerun the same path for max rewards or even if they could stick to the short ones, they would still do so faster through skipping.
Hilariously enough, you are referring to champions in the forth point, which are mainly present at the gated encounters that cannot be skipped anyway. As far as I’m aware (and “I” did my share of dungeon running), the trash that is being skipped hardly ever includes champs. Completely moot. And lastly, since I mentioned moot, I’m not even sure why you bring the 5th, 6th and 7th points in here. They are not even dungeon-related.
As far as I see it, skipping offers the means to do dungeons efficient for those people who care(d) about that. If you personally choose to kill every single mob in the dungeon, that’s really fine with me. The great thing about instanced content is that everyone can make their own groups. Ultimately, that has been the solution to all these dungeon debates – just play with the like-minded.
