Guild Wars 2

I, too, agree that something needs to be done with the server imbalances. Sniffy and Zen have posted well thought out ideas that should be looked at by the Anet team… sooner rather than later.

Lastrites.5286:

In this match-up thread I see all this come out and play stuff. lol When we do come out and play SBI zerg balls need to number in the 80-100 range. We have wiped your big guilds up and down the maps constantly. Your answer? The funny part about it is your server wouldn’t hold a candle to servers with equal numbers. Even completely outnumbering an opposing server you get wiped. How can you brag about that? Sorry but it seems to me SBI will fall once again when you realize your numbers don’t mean anything when you are teamed against skilled servers with equal numbers. Here is a simple little vid to prove a point. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VXvW1Jtf0Sk or maybe another. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GasPzNqI4nw Lol you say you want SoR or JQ? good luck.

I watched the tower invasion.. outnumbered. No don’t think so.. you inadvertently pulled your map up and we (the viewer) can clearly see that you had equal numbers.

That said.. that was a very nice defense of the tower.

add: when trying to say that ‘we’ want to fight SoR, please make sure that you are not speaking for our entire server. Not many of us want to go up against SoR, I know that we aren’t ready. I went up against them a few times when I was on TC and the skill lag with the mega zerg battles are just about enough to make the baby jesus cry (the primary reason that I left TC.. loved the people but couldn’t hang with the skill lag).

But you know what? If we did draw them, I would actually enter WvW again. I HATE these match ups and really wish that Anet would/could pay attention to what they are doing to the lower tiers’ morale. Many of us on SBI know full well that we haven’t really been tested yet since all of the migrations. Further, we know that we need to be tested to find out exactly where we stand and what needs improvement until that happens, no one can know. I can look at our maps and see what needs an immediate fix but not what we need to correct to work within the meta.

re: spawn camping.. it’s filthy pool and NO one should be doing it. I don’t care what server you are on or if you have 1 or 50 people doing it. Don’t. It’s nasty gaming. Let opponent come out to ‘play’ as it’s been said or they won’t bother logging into WvW. Then what? More standing around waiting for Tequatl? No thanks.

SniffyCube.6107:

Sagabatou.1076:

Hilariously fun fights in SBI BL today! It’s hard finding something interesting to do in this matchup.

yup… leveling another as we speak!

No not really I'm just not logging in

Same, SK. I pop on for a bit every day and I just don’t have it in me to enter WvW with this kind of lead.

KN.. hang in there.. I fought you and FA back when I was on TC for weeks straight and it’s heart wrenching for me to see you guys have to go through this.

mistsim.2748:

honestly, it’s time for a massive purge. those who are bored/bitter with WvW, all the GvG fanatics, etc., take care!

fans of the game will adapt. and a lot of us are having the most fun we’ve ever had on the current BL’s.

Says the person on tier 1 server. Glad it’s working out for y’all up there because it’s surely not working in the lower tiers.

zen.6091:

I haven’t played for a few weeks. I’ll continue to be hopeful that things turn around, but it’s difficult to a tangible basis for optimism. Gear becoming outdated, falling behind on WXP, and high economic inflation make it harder to come back after a hiatus too.

I’ve been a GW player since the beta weekends for GW1, and while I certainly have not played continuously 8 years, the breaks have never been longer than 3 or 4 months. There was always something to come back to, some sort of unfinished business or new experience that was actually fun and easy to jump into. There’s little left to do in this game besides get back on the treadmill. It makes me sad that Guild Wars will probably soon be a game spoken in the past tense like all the others, for me anyway.

I, too, have been playing GW2 since beta weekends for GW1. In GW1, I bought all the extras and the expansions. Here, I have put at least $100/month in to the game, which I did not have a problem with doing. I am hanging my GW shoes up now though. I can’t say for how long, even with as kitten ed off as I am with Anet. I guess you could say that hope springs eternal when it comes to my favorite games.

Since completing the game on 7 characters, 95% of my in game time was spent in WvW. Now we have the orbs of stupid power (this is coming from someone who’s server is ahead in the current match up by 100K pts), in two weeks we’ll have the league battles which is only going to pit my rank 10 server that has barely any oceanic coverage against the likes of TC, JQ, BG and SoR so we are just going to get steamrolled. Why Euro servers are getting split into more brackets when NA has more servers is unbelievable to me.

Those two things are merely the straw that broke this camel’s back however. Rangers have gotten nerfed every patch up until this past one -now if my ranger needs a party, I’d best hope I can find a party of my friends or I am not doing what I need to do. -class is hopelessly broken and the devs do not care.

Devon telling us that those of us that post on the forums are the vocal minority and giving us a virtual sneer by saying that if we aren’t up to a challenge, then surely we must not be WvWers because he thought WvWers liked/enjoyed challengers (not an exact quote but something very close to it when he was questioned about leagues).

What we have now.. is NOT the anet that I once knew and loved. The old Anet actually cared about the players. Hell .. I remember when Gaile would randomly show up in LA and talk to us or start a random event. This has NEVER happened in GW2 that I have seen or heard of.

Btw.. Mr Carter? you should invis yourself, enter game and actually listen to what WvWers and others are saying. I may be one voice but trust and believe I am one of a LOT more than what you are seeing here. It irks me to no end that I was impressed with you when you first came on board. More fool me, you were merely putting up a front. smdh

Solstice.1097:

Anet – as far as maximum WvW benefit with minimum effort, a commander system upgrade is hands down what you should be looking at. Let me suggest some fresh ideas to hopefully spark renewed interest in the subject:

1. Let people buy colors for their tag with badges (similar to buying dye for your armor).

2. Sell a “General” tag for 50g.
—> A plain white circle icon with a black G that is visible on map within 2000 distance.
—> Only visible in WvW.
—> General tag has no squad functionality, but can use /supplyinfo
—> If General joins a commander’s squad, his General tag becomes same color as commander’s. Commander has an option to disable generals in his squad if he wishes.
Just think of the strategic coordination options if a commander has an appointed general!!!

3. Everyone with a commander tag or who purchases one gets two 1-time consumables. If you use this consumable while in a squad, 1 “vote” goes to the squad commander (cannot use it for yourself). As commanders accumulate more votes they can get cooler icons, fancier titles, etc. I imagine someone eventually reaching 100 votes (5,000 gold worth of commander tags) and becoming the first Legendary Commander with a really awesome icon!!

The amount of resources to make this happen pales in comparison to creating a whole new map and mechanic system, yet the benefits are great, universal and risk-free.

Any chance we can move this up on the priority list since we’ve been asking for something since launch?

…because a popularity contest is EXACTLY what we need in this mess that we currently call WvW? Lawdy, lawdy.

“Dodge rolling through marks will activate them, while evading them. So Don’t stack all your marks in one spot, else someone will just dodge roll through and negate them all.”

Please please make sure you aren’t talking to someone doesn’t know this before you try to act like everyone on sbi is completely stupid. I never, ever stack my marks. I place them so that it is virtually impossible to dodge roll through them. This means that after the thief hit the first few s/he should have been revealed. Didn’t happen.

“Also, there is a current bug out there that dead foes show an amount of health, like they partially ressed themselves. Happens on allies and enemies. Once a person starts to res, the bar goes back down to zero. So all it is is a visual bug, an illusion if you will.”
Fully aware of this also. What I WAS unaware of is that a person can cause their health bar to fill until they are no longer dead.

“And an ele running a focus with other specific traits and utilities equipped can have a decent amount of pure invulns.” Yep. Also have an ele. THIS ele had an inordinate amount and length of invulnerability. Let me guess, btw, the thief can also show invulnerable based on traits and utilities? Pray, enlighten me, good sir/ma’am -so that I may trait my thief to do this as well.

I await a valid explanation as to how these players were able to repeatedly get beyond the legendary defenders with out being one/two hit. (pretty sure that they can’t all stealth singly but hey.. maybe warriors can stealth themselves as well!)

And before you say it, no walls were down and none of the guards or trainers moved each time your players ’glitched in.

that one was the ele. I have screenies of the two warriors and the thief. all of them were reported by at least ten of us that witnessed it.

The ele was amazing at being constantly invulnerable and the thief broke my marks without taking any kind of damage. Also very good at healing whilst dead. Y’all have some seriously leet skills going on there.

hey, BP? Care to tell us how you have two warriors running around in Citadel crafting area on sbi BL. also you just had a thief come in to res one right in front of us there is NO way that you guys should be able to get in there past all the legendaries.

PS the warrior had himself 3/4 healed before the thief magically appeared

monk.4561:

hmmm mickey must be from the sbi server….name calling..hahah….how mature..

its true I don’t have an elem character..but I don’t think the dragon tooth skill can hit bottom ground 15-20 feet inside a fort.. can another person with elem char confirm it…?
even if that possible…I have many other examples…of none-dragon tooth skills that is used by cheats/hacks…this pic is from the crystal server attacking crag tower…I was way on top..and a none-dragon tooth skill took out my siege.
can mickey name that skill ?

I have an ele and the Dragon Tooth skill is insane with it’s range.

Can’t make that call with out seeing where the ac hitting you is. My ranger has +5 ticks in ac, treb, cata and bali and has much more range than most realise.

ps: there is no zoom hack. This is per Anet.. it’s what happens when people use windows mode our dual/triple monitors. Any other accusations you would care to throw out there?

monk.4561:

hi guy, we all know every server has some hacks and cheats…..even tho sbi have the zombie hordes(50-70) zergs…..still a lot of sbi relies on hacks and cheats to flip borlis pass forts. SBI been cheating and hacking back in June match up and they still doing it this week (09/13/2013)…can u say zoomhack.?

what’s the point of wvwvw..if a server can only win with cheats and hacks.?
I have attached a pic of it from June and sbi still doing cheats/hacks this week.

here’s the pic but I am not sure if anet will remove the pic….pic from june ..wild creek
on the eternal map..shows red target circles way inside…while the gate still up and all the sbi is still outside

1: It’s dragon tooth, not a hack.
2: why wait until now to post a picture from June to accuse us of hacks.

Le Rooster.8715:

Next Week SBI vs SoS vs CD LETS DO IT!

Gack! Rooster.. I know the numbers you guys field (used to be on TC and CD).

• trembles in bootsies*

Not going to go back to quote the person that quoted me and said that I can’t see the enemy for being in a “90 man zerg”. There’s no way that we field that high a zerg. Ever. Aside from the very beginning of reset I haven’t been in the first zerg. But I do see plenty of y’all hugging your siege rather than coming down to fight in the field in spite of having even numbers. That isn’t “not worrying about ppt and only focusing on the fights” no matter how anyone looks at it.

To the BP that do come down and fight. Thank you.. y’all are the ones that make the game more fun and allow us to see how we are doing. Hats off to you guys, I am seeing a whole lot of improvement in your field fights.

YBBL.. Wowza you guys kept us on our toes on reset night in our BL with your rushes on our garri and trying to get our hills waypointed as well trying to keep us supply starved. I know that I, personally, was up until 0830am defending and many others stayed up even longer. You guys are just getting stronger and stronger and it definitely shows!

Walabone.6713:

Moriquendi.4209:

Walabone.6713:

Why is SBI so bad? Discuss.

Borlis Pass: 3 493
Yak’s Bend: 3 507
Stormbluff Isle: 4 745

Why is BP currently losing to a bad server? Discuss.

Person thinks that quoting PPT is an indicator of skill? Discuss.

Person from the server that is, again, trying to throw their match to ensure Silver League match up and who’s server would rather WvF. Discuss.

Listen.. no one on SBI thinks we are perfect but at least we are still showing up to fight. If we get thrown into the Gold League and get our butts handed to us, it’s fine.. we’ll still come out and fight. We’ll also take the opportunity to learn from fighting the much higher tiers.

If we stay Silver League? We might be bored but we’ll show up to fight there too and continue training. At least we will have the dignity not to troll the forums whilst being cowards on the battlefield.

PS: very cute on your boards about YB and SBI preferring EB over our own BL. Thought we showed you differently during our last match up. That horse is dead, stop beating it please.

Rob.7624:

These three pictures sum up fighting SBI.
Was running my roaming build.

But tank mode engaged my friends, tank mode engaged.

To be fair, I’ve encountered much the same from NSP and IoJ since reset. Seems no roaming will be done during this match up!

Buffy.9246:

Hey Darkhaven. Little tip for ya. Let SBI server have SM and they will not defend their bl. Easy points.

Little change in plans, eh, Buffy?

For the most part, I’ll be honest and say that the players on both BP and DH have been friendly. There are some on BP that have spammed sit when they sit on a single character that had the misfortune to get caught in one of your zergs and lost to it so much that I’ve had to turn my emotes off just so I could see/read team chat. That’s some serious poor sportsmanship guys… please rethink that behaviour.

Hope to see y’all on the battlefield again!

To the FA mes that partied me to ask if we could move up more into the zerg so y’all could have more bags during our battles for our keep (after pushing you guys off our spawn): Stay classy, m’kay?

off to the Pavillion this week

joric.1042:

Really hoping to get a more competitive match-up. We don’t match up well to any server T3 and above. They seems to hand us our hats in an efficient manner.

ironically, I guess you are getting a taste of what it has been like for CD ever since we were last matched with you and you decided to ‘focus us down’ and we’ve been up against tier 2 servers ever since.

Everglow.2185:

TooBz.3065:

Furiousbeard.7602:

TC/FA/…. DB?

Lets fight about it

How long has it been since you’ve had that classic T2 matchup?

It hasn’t happened even once since the new matchup system was put in place

And TC is no longer the server it was when it was the three of us for .. oh, so many weeks. They field a much, much bigger zerg because they have more people in WvW than ever before.

Whilst I do miss a lot of people on TC.. I kitten ed sure don not miss the Tier 2 skill lag. SMC three way battle, anyone? Press 1 wait wait, press 1 wait for a bit longer, oh crap my guild is waaaaaay up there. How’d that happen? Press w close eyes and hope for the best. What? I am on the other side of SMC now? Better heal up! <tab> Dead.

neonreaper.4805:

crying on the forums just makes those people do it more.

Try not to see it as crying. Let’s call it disdain.

Moh Jay.7240:

Bored again and this thread is looking dead soooooooooooo… How about that new Breaking Bad episode?

Bored? Maybe if you guys didn’t roll out in such big zergs vs 10 people or havok groups we’d have more on our maps.

The really sad thing is that even though we have virtually no presence on the maps CD is gaining points on the MOS site.

neonreaper.4805:

CD hope you enjoy the bags from our fairweathers this morning. good god.

They were rather nummy.. thank you!

LOL, ‘ello, Furious, nice to see you again. And, no, we won’t give up. Ever

soulartistrb.7509:

yeah i don’t post much on the wvw forums but i think this screenshot says it all.

Tsk. CD is seriously lacking in Sea coverage. I would say that I am impressed, but I’m not because it’s not hard to take objectives when there is no one there to defend them.

GG with spawn camping us with siege at 2am EST, FA. It’s dirty pool in most people’s book to do that and for you you to do that when it’s a known fact that we don’t have people to cover, you’re showing that you really haven’t changed too much from those days before when I fought you on another server for 4 months straight.

SoS.. waves we meet again! One day we will be get the coverage needed and I think when that happens we will have even more and better clashes.

Good luck to all and keep your heads up, CD. Love you all <3

Waffler.1257:

LilMcGinley.3890:

THIS is why we need Structured GvG in Guild Wars 2.

Simply looked amazing. I would have LOVED to hear both teamspeaks during this fight.

Structured? There was nothing structured about that and it would be impossible to commentate in a competitive setting. This is what real GvG looks like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFWvdyCk1Uo

Oh how I miss those days. All due respect to the people that GvG in game now but it’s really not a whole lot more than smaller scale open field fighting to me.

As I read this thread.. I wonder.. what happened to the DB I first met back when I was on TC? Since when did you get so many forum warriors?

Chris.3290:

CD, in good Friday form as ever.

DB, nice to see you outside your towers and doing a little open-field. The outcome of this match isn’t really in question so I hope you continue to bring the fights into the open so we can get a lot of our newer guys trained up.

I’d suggest the classic 2v1, but CD never goes for it. To add reference for DB, they aren’t as bad as FA but not much better.

Anyhow, let’s all make the best of it.

Cheers!

Already with the cynicism, Chris? Nice to you see you again. We will not go down without a fight.

DB and the rest of SoS glad to see y’all again.

Raven.9603:

So i got bored tonight, and decided to run around a bit in the BL’s dressed as a robot. I found a random boxing match with an EB Charr from “All the Cute Charrs and Me”, I had some necro from vT (who was trashing like 3 guys at a time, nerf) transform into his Asura Racial Golem and punch the crap out of me, and, best of all, half of Elysium Knights turn in to quaggans and mourn my death after I tried to run through their zerg.

Thanks for the entertainment guys!

Aye.. been loads of fun, y’all… we could only imagine what went through the zerg’s head when we quagganed up. A few of the zerg stopped dead in their tracks and bowed. Thanks for all the battles and humor. <3

• waves at Calvin *

hai!

Runehand.9368:

Nope, look at any thread where Mag was paired against DB and draw your own conclusions. From my perspective, friends of ours from Mag said ’we’re going to push you to third’, then seeing a Mag zerg pass a CD/YB fight, then seeing a CD and Mag zerg hit us at once all in the span of very little time. What would you think?

There have been multiple times that it looks that way from our perspective: Mag Zerg on one side of the map ad YB on the other. It happens to all sides, I am sure.

@ Mag.. when we were paired with TC we didn’t just afk. We fought til the last few minutes until reset same with DB and SoS. If nothing else continuing to fight a higher ranked server teaches you something. Never give up, never break, right?

Runehand.9368:

CD working with Mag is totally hilarious. That’s pretty low, especially for a server that cries and goes afk when they get paired against Dragonbrand.

I’m seriously hoping that you aren’t accusing CD of going afk when we were up against DB. Because that’s not at all what happened.

Pinko.2076:

EvilSardine.9635:

Wow, good fights at Vale!

EK steamrolled that DREP zerg over and over again. Gotta give props to DREP for keeping their chin up and trying some more.

We had 25 against what we were told by CD was 50, and CD sat in the camp behind carts and ballistas we had to keep killing.

If CD wants to know their weakness, it’s that they won’t move without a queue behind them during NA, while other servers are splitting into 20/30 mans. EK probably didn’t want a million pubbies nuthugging them at SW camp, but that’s definitely what happened.

EK didn’t drop any siege and we weren’t hiding. We were coming out to battle y’all on the field. I was there for the entire 2 hour battle and it was Mag that dropped the ac’s to begin with, fyi.

I’ve not seen the first Mag zerg with less than 30 in it so let’s try the truth. Particularly in light of the fact that we have been running outmanned 80% of the time that we are on line.

Normally, I like to run in havok squads -that’s a no can do because I know full well that you guys have far more than 5-10 running with you at all times.

saiyr.3071:

Toxic.4320:

Chris.3290:

I thought CD was ready to take on Maguuma, but guess I was wrong.

In theory, we should. However, we are constantly fighting yaks and mags at the same time so it becomes difficult

Yeah, all that rampant double teaming must be why we hit +500 yesterday evening o_O I don’t see what’s wrong with admitting that we have a ton more people than both of you when all of our fairweathers come out to play.

I’m not saying it’s a planned thing. CD is an easy target for Mags during the over nights and YB is smart to capitalise on that.

Chris.3290:

I thought CD was ready to take on Maguuma, but guess I was wrong.

In theory, we should. However, we are constantly fighting yaks and mags at the same time so it becomes difficult

Azure Prower.8701:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

To the people from SoS who I was lighting up the Dark Room for: Thanks for not killing me. Thanks especially for not mistaking for an attack the mud which drops out when I fall, and thanks for in turn showing me a few of the jumps.

To the people from SoS who proceeded to turn around and spike me dead in the arena? Please find something better to do. It took about ten minutes for a small knot of us to begin to question if it was going to stop, then when we did fight back and got to the top about three of you kicked us back down. Two of you waved “all clear” before bombarding me dead on the first chandelier.

I get it. It’s a PvP-allowed zone so you’re entitled to this. There’s rewards at the end including Siege prints, so it’s okay to deny us those.

But I wasn’t attacking you, and at least two others with me were just trying to get to the kite. At least, I didn’t until you made it clear you weren’t going to stop.

So. I’m planning on waiting until I know a mesmer is in the JP doing portals because I’m not going to run into the jaws again. I will, of course, continue to not attack anyone from other servers in the JP proper and identify myself with waving and bowing. Why? Because I ask the same courtesy of you folks.

I usually don’t attack others in the JP when passing by them. The difference between me and you?

I’m always ready for a fight and expect those with red names to always have hostile intentions. A ‘wave’ means jack to me.

Learn to not be a free kill nor mope about it on the forums and you’ll do well.

Though unless they /invite you to party and come to a clear verbal agreement. Only then it would be a jerk move for them to turn around and spike you.

Here’s the thing though: Anet, in their infinite wisdom, has put a PvE achievement in WvW. Knowing this? I, personally, would not attack the person waving or bowing at me. It’s not their fault that this was put there.

Azure Prower.8701:

Gismor.8407:

Oh, NOW this? :|. And you have the most numbers…

So you taunt SoS when they don’t come out and you taunt SoS when they do.

…Wut?

He’s probably referring to all the ac’s.

EK actively hunts and fights open field every night, Chris. What’s with your contempt? Salty tears?

Maladon.5760:

Luvpie.8350:

I am not sure if you still lead on EB but we give you guys ample room to push CD and push them off EB but you guys have a kitten for SM/WC or even coming behind us all the way to QL.

At any given time there are about 47 trebs hitting Anzalias, Overlook and Ogrewatch from Stonemist. That really doesn’t give us much breathing room to focus on CD

LOL now why would the smaller server and the bigger server want to focus down on the mid server? Shouldn’t it be SBI and CD focusing down on SoS?

Here’s what is fascinating to me.. I have seen SoS in the TC/SoS matchup thread and I read a whole lot of q.q from SoS about how TC siege creeps when they outnumbered y’all. yet… scratches head y’all do the identical thing.

You guys used to be better than that. What happened?

In any case.. great fights for the most part, you guys! <3

Becka Williams.4978:

Not quite sure why CD used this strategy, but hey….

We were bored and thought we’d leave the map with a bang

PS: I am one of the quaggan

CAA.9653:

TC just loves FA so much that they want to be on the same thread as us. <3

I hope to see you guys tomorrow, but only if there is another server who will help us push you guys. Last time, that was not really the case.

Unfortunately, the only servers that can help you push TC at this point is a Tier 1 server.

Btw, DB, what’s up with all the spawn camping? It’s not exactly like we (CD) pose a huge threat to you. and before you say anything.. yes, there are three exits but we have new players that come into WvW daily. This kind of crap can cause people just to say kitten it and not come back.

There’s no reason to try to farm us. Dirty pool, much?

jschultz.2901:

Another point since you piped in here Gismor, I know for a fact you want to make a difference on CD, it’s obvious and you’ve made it a goal. Know this though Gismor, we are not from where you came from, we’re not all like you and yours and what you’re trying to build. We don’t all want to be on TS3, some don’t want to hear a kitten thing beyond game sounds. Know this though, CD folks do watch keeps, do watch towers, do run dolyaks. CD folks may be “weak underdogs” because of our lower “tier”, but we do refresh siege and set it as we can, and people do sit like kittenes, or dedicated folks to a stupid game, at towers and keeps like any other server.

Yes, I have some animosity in a way and I should say it to you Gismor. You came from what? TC? You expected another group of players and another server to instantly accept you? To accept your style of play and dedication instantly because you came from a “higher” place? Nothing works that way unfortunatly, and I’m sure it’s been kitten you that folks haven’t bowed beneath your superior suggestions.

That all said Gismor, I think you’re getting it. You’re spending alot more time now “sleeping” in towers or spawns because you’re bored that folks aren’t getting “IT”. You chose to come to CD, and we’re not too kitten bad, but if you want to be number 1 then you’re quite a long ways from that and you need to move man. We have shown, vs at least 7 to 1 odds for many weeks now, we still do try. If ya wanna “win” go join the team that has the most numbers.

^should be on the CD forums not on the official ones.

If you don’t want to get on TS to hear commands that the commander is giving, don’t run with that specific commander. Or you will die. Easy peasy.

If you think he is just ‘sleeping’ in the towers bring it to him when you see him doing exactly that. Maybe you’ll find that he’s sentrying a tower. I know that I have been in the towers with him on several occasions for a few hours at a time.
- Ethos Mores [EK]

Odinzu.9645:

saiyr.3071:

Odinzu.9645:

yeah we withdrew after lots got downed. Those kiting guild groups are so trolly lol

Is running straight into each other the only honorable way to fight, to you?

I didn’t say it wasnt a legitimate tactic, that idea is coming from you lol.
it definitely works against one group to use 2 groups and kite.
It does not work to use one group to kite one group
It does not work to use two groups to kite two groups.
Glad you guys came out to give us a little practice vs that style of play though. And I was really happy to see that Mag pushed so hard today instead of just limp noodling like CD’s week with SoS/TC.
Idk about other people but i like fighting mags. The JP brawls are hilarious too.

With all due respect, Odin. You lose sight of the fact that TC has at least 3x the number of WvWers than CD does. SoS had also about twice the number of people than we do. What would have had us do when we fought y’all? Particularly when y’all built the 18 Omegas and ran through all of the maps.

Before you respond about how you don’t have far more people than we do, bear in mind that I was on TC (space inserted because of kitten being added in idiotic places) until about 5 weeks ago. First in [TV] then in [CERN]. Most of the time, we are kitten ed lucky to have a zerg of 20 in any one map.

I know that my current guild, [EK], and a few others never once gave up -many of us fought until 1930 est on reset night. But we just can’t field the numbers that you and SoS do.

Where, pray tell, should the ‘scrubs’ have built their AC? In the middle of your zerg? Let’s not get any more ridiculous, ok?

Merendel.7128:

I wouldnt be too worried about a 240ish point gap causeing stagnation. Look at SOS’s matchup list since this started. We’ve had TC or one of the T1 servers every time so far. Heck we got SOR with a rateing point gap well over 400 at the time (and still I think) Our rating has risen dramaticly even after 5 weeks of geting steamrolled just cause the RNG keeps throwing us upwards over relitively large pointgaps.

Honestly I didnt mind the 2 strong servers vs us matchups. the 2 stronger servers tended to focus on eachother out of necessity while ocasionaly turning to stomp us to pad their PTT and that let us hold our own at times. The match’s vs 1 strong server we suffered more because that server could stomp both us and whatever poor server got to come along for the ride on coverage alone.

We on CD haven’t seen that. What we have seen is that the two stronger servers take and keep our stuff for the ppt that is easier for them. No, not everyone is giving WvW up but I do see fewer and fewer of the more casual players in the maps.

AcidicVision.5498:

You have two large guilds that are content to camp the jumping puzzle. I know everyone does that but this is the craziest I have ever seen. [Kome] and [Alba] have a zerg large enough to take Stonemist are locking down two rooms.

They are waving at smaller groups from DB and FA to make them think its cool to continue and then knocking them off edges for fall kills when they get close. The equivalent of waving a white flag or sign of truce, then shooting your enemy when they come to shake hands.

Meanwhile, your sever is down over 100 points per tick, and doesn’t control a third of its own borderlands.

My feelings aren’t hurt, ill come back later. But you guys need to get your priorities in order. Embarrassing your server to troll a few people in a jumping puzzle isn’t a good look.

LOL Kome and Alba spend a TON of time on our maps. Good for them if they need to take a break and want to have fun for a bit. We aren’t getting facerolled because of that. We were already down by over 6k to FA when I logged in 5.5 hours ago.

Before you ask, I’m in [EK] and we have been in our borderland for the past 4 hours.

SMC? Carries a mortgage that CD can’t afford during this match up. :p

Bedstain.6735:

Toxic.4320:

eldavo.6054:

Snowreap.5174:

laokoko.7403:

So instead of TC fighting JQ which will give them some good fight. They are fighting like rank 10-15 server?

The deviation is too large.

1. TC can’t fight #3 JQ, because #3 JQ is busy fighting #2 SoR and #1 BG.

instead, #4 TC is fighting #7 Mag and #8 SoS. #7 and #8 are not by any means rank 10-15.

btw, #4 TC can’t fight #5 DB and #6 FA, because #5 and #6 are busy this week giving #12 CD a chance to prove that it deserves to move up.

really, these are all reasonable matchups. look at some of the outcomes in EU if you want to find servers who have a real reason to complain.

-ken

Not really. TC can beat Mag and SOS with one hand tied behind their backs by sheer coverage advantage. However if TC doesn’t push hard and completely blow their opponents out they will lose rating. So the point game incentive is to run up the score. Blowout matches are less fun than closer ones, especially for the loser.

Now DB, FA, CD might be a little more fun since DB and FA are closer in rank. They will probably concentrate more on each other and leave CD a little more breathing room to play a spoiler role.

Still count me in the favoring WULD camp, though I would even prefer a variant where you don’t move down or up unless you’ve won or lost twice in a row.

Wrong. They are ganging up on us (CD). It sucks, and I don’t think they are doing it as a coordinated effort -more what they see as easy ppt. I’m fairly hard core about my WvW and yeah we are learning from all these losses but I can DEFINITELY see how the more casual WvWers are getting frustrated and don’t want to join in or they log out after we lose our keep or garri for the 3rd time in an evening.

In tier 1, SoR and JQ tried to take our keep. They split the map in half and starved us of supply. With no supply, we held our keep for at least the 3 hours I was on.

SoR and JQ tried that tactic and again we beat them. However and the other 2 t1train hard, we get new tactics, we spend time theory crafting.

Understand that I was on TC from January until about a month ago when I decided that it was time to come back to the server that I started on. I know how WvW works in the higher tier servers and have adopted many of the tactics that I learned there ie: sieging up and sentrying, stacking and moving as one etc. Additionally, I am in a guild that transferred to CD from BG.

Is CD doing better than it was a month ago? Absolutely. But you would never know it if you look at how we have gotten facerolled these past 3-4 weeks and this is what is so disheartening for players that can’t see the differences that others with more experience can. I only look at the overall score when I log in and again when I’m logging out. With these matchups, I’m happy to see if we are ticking over 100 ppt. A more casual player may log in to see us ticking 20 ppt and not know that we just fought our kitten off and actually kept our 1/3 of EB or whatever map for the past 5 hours. Those are the players I worry may not come back to WvW -the ones that log in, see 35ppt and log out. And that’s a shame. Because if we were in a more even match up and had the marked improvement that I, and others, have noticed? They would log in and stay in. Because we would be winning more.

eldavo.6054:

Snowreap.5174:

laokoko.7403:

So instead of TC fighting JQ which will give them some good fight. They are fighting like rank 10-15 server?

The deviation is too large.

1. TC can’t fight #3 JQ, because #3 JQ is busy fighting #2 SoR and #1 BG.

instead, #4 TC is fighting #7 Mag and #8 SoS. #7 and #8 are not by any means rank 10-15.

btw, #4 TC can’t fight #5 DB and #6 FA, because #5 and #6 are busy this week giving #12 CD a chance to prove that it deserves to move up.

really, these are all reasonable matchups. look at some of the outcomes in EU if you want to find servers who have a real reason to complain.

-ken

Not really. TC can beat Mag and SOS with one hand tied behind their backs by sheer coverage advantage. However if TC doesn’t push hard and completely blow their opponents out they will lose rating. So the point game incentive is to run up the score. Blowout matches are less fun than closer ones, especially for the loser.

Now DB, FA, CD might be a little more fun since DB and FA are closer in rank. They will probably concentrate more on each other and leave CD a little more breathing room to play a spoiler role.

Still count me in the favoring WULD camp, though I would even prefer a variant where you don’t move down or up unless you’ve won or lost twice in a row.

Wrong. They are ganging up on us (CD). It sucks, and I don’t think they are doing it as a coordinated effort -more what they see as easy ppt. I’m fairly hard core about my WvW and yeah we are learning from all these losses but I can DEFINITELY see how the more casual WvWers are getting frustrated and don’t want to join in or they log out after we lose our keep or garri for the 3rd time in an evening.

EnRohbi.2187:

I can’t get over the amount of roamers from CD chase me halfway across the map until I get sick of them behind me, so I turn around to fight and the first thing they do is turn away and run as soon as they realize they’re not facing an upleveled scrub.

Only time you’ll catch me doing that? is if I’m alone. I’d prefer not to lose my kitten to 10 DBers. I like it just fine where it is