Guild Wars 2

Oooohhh latin-americans powaaa!!!

Ok now seriously, 90% of people who plays in baruch are spanish. Just because we have a completely different time culture, doesn’t mean we’re not spanish.

About OP, there’s only 2 options: Adapt or move on. There’s also two main problems with 24h coverage.
- Any possible solution would require massive calculations (remember every second people join and leave maps). Technically is just not possible to do even in a single matchup, now count 9 EU, 7 NA and I don’t know how much chinese matchups.
- There’s also a dev’s mentality issue. This is a game made for casuals and focused on pve (WvW and spvp are adds). To do such changes in WvW it would require a full focus on WvW and months (even more than a year) of developing and testing the new changes. That’s not gonna happen…

Rememebr..there is no grind in this game..Anet leave that to other dev’s..remember?

You got it all wrong. 300 golds per color is unreasonable. You need ability to change between different colors for colors to be useful, paying 300g per color defeat that.

Also, color is not the only feature we wanted. Tag only visible to guild/squad were a BIG one.

If you want to make people pay for more tags feature it’s fine but do it right. Here is an example of how I see tags should cost :

Tag Level 1 : Private Commander Tag

Only visible to squad and guild members
Color : Gold (Yellow)
Price : 100g

Tag Level 2 : Public Commander Tag

The commander tag that we all know currently, visible to everyone on the map.
Color : Blue
Price : 200g
Requirement : Have the private commander tag

Tag Level 3 : Colored Commander Tag

Like the public commander tag but you can switch between 5 different colors
Color: Blue, Red, Pink, Green, Orange
Price : 200g
Requirement : have the public commander tag

All tag’s levels are account bound.

Agreed. Do not remove treb damage through a gate unless some equally effective compensatory defense mechanism takes its place. As others have stated, it’s often the sole force equalizer for an outnumbered group defending a tower or keep against a zerg.

The counter-arguments that we’re going to hear in response will be:

1) It’s not realistic to have the treb damage go through the gate without damaging the gate.

Ummm…none of it is realistic. It’s a fantasy online game. You don’t get to cherry pick your realism to fit your own agenda. If treb damage through gates isn’t realistic, neither are animated Asura stone constructs (golems), siege weapons you carry in your back pocket, or expecting to destroy a reinforced gate by plinking away at it with a sword or arrows.

You want to remove treb damage through a gate on the basis of realism? Fine. I’ll give up the treb in exchange for you giving up golems, rams that magically expand like a pokemon from a poke ball, and the ability to damage a gate with your weapon and utility skills.

2) You can’t hit a treb hidden inside of a tower or keep, but it can hit you. This is unbalanced, uncounterable, and soooooo unfair QQ!

Anyone using this as their defensive argument has branded themselves a karma-training zerger who doesn’t know how to lay siege to a fortification outside of throwing down a ram or auto-attacking the gate.

There is not a single spot anywhere in any tower or keep where a treb can be placed that can’t be countered by some form of siege weapon or player skills. Those who claim otherwise obviously haven’t played WvW enough to learn this or – even if they have an inordinate amount of hours playing – never made the effort to learn anything beyond pressing the 1 key.

3) I don’t want have to build a counter-treb to take out the defensive treb. Treb wars is so boooooring.

In other words, you want all the loot handed to you on a silver platter with little to no effort on your part beyond auto-attacking the gate, believing that to be the epitome of skilled play. Trebbing may be boring to you; PvDooring is boring to us. Simply a matter of opinion.

It’s the difference between playing checkers and chess; one involves a bit more planning, forethought, strategy, and time than the other. If you want to play chess, play WvW. If you want to play checkers, play EotM.

4) Those defenders behind the treb are skill-less noobs. If they were any good, they’d come out from behind their treb and their walls and engage us in a fair fight like manly men!

And rolling up to a gate outnumbering your opponent 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10-to-1 is the shining ideal of skilled, fair play? Riiiiight. You can talk to me about skill when you manage to capture the tower or keep with your three players versus my three players. Until then, all I see is a skill-less blob that doesn’t know any better than to press the 1 key or throw down a ram right in the path of a trebuchet boulder’s blast radius. GG.

Feel free to add any additional merit-less counters. Don’t forget to include plenty of Straw Man arguments, ad hominem attacks, QQ’s about how siege is killing off WvW, and sprinkle liberally with the word “noob”. For extra credit, spin the discussion off into a tangent about how terribad arrow carts are, too.

Roaming is no holds barred no rules. Alot of people like to put 1v1’s and Roaming together but that just isn’t the case.

Roamer builds are generally the same not always.

Quick and dirty not exhaustive list of some of the current popular roamer builds are:

Thief – Lyssa runes are popular on all the thief builds out side of condition build which usually has perplexity on it.

10/30/30/0/0 with D/P and another weapon set. The complained about Perma stealth build with hidden killer trait.

10/0/30/0/30 S/D or S/P as the main set.

10/30/0/30 rare this is more s/tPvP meta. S/P or S/D as the main set

10/0/30/0/30 – P/D condition build

10/0/0/30/30 – Evade build with S/D

Necro – 30/20/x/x/x last 20 can be anywhere condition damage based build

Mesmer – x/20/30/x/x last 20 can be anywhere usually its 20 in domination, this is popular Prismatic Understanding build (PU) can be conditions (usually called blackwater) or direct damage or even hybrid.

Engineer 30/x/x/x/x I am new to engineer so I am not familiar with all their builds yet but this is the condition build usually 30/10/0/20/10 with pistol/shield bombs or grenades. I am not familiar with power builds on engineer yet as mine is only 1 week at 80.

Guardian – 0/0/10/30/30 Healway bunker build
0/5/30/30/5 Altruistic healing dps with Sword/Focus and GS or Hammer.
0/x/30/x/x – Mediation Guardian the rest of the points can be anywhere but usually it stays around 0/5/30/30/5 is popular for mediations also.

Warrior – 0/20/30/0/20 or 0/20/20/0/30 Hammer or Sword or Axe. There is a few dps type shout builds out there or condition builds but I don’t know that. Bow is popular now cause people think they are playing sPvP and the enemy will stand in the fire. Mace,shield, hammer, longbow, axe, sword can all be used in power.

The condition warrior build is popular but I don’t know cause I don’t run condi on my warrior.

Elementalist – x/x/x/20/30 Dagger/Dagger Standard cantrip based ele build either bunker or burst.

0/30/x/10/30 seems to be the popular S/D or S/F build now

I don’t know anything about rangers. These above builds are just what you are more likely to run into on each of those classes when your out roaming.

There are no rules so you can be 1v2’d then 3 more show up to kill you. Key things are mobility, stun breakers, and condition removal if you can fit those in your build all of them or at the minimum stun breakers. Traveler runes are viable for mesmer and very popular as they can fit in a direct damage power or condition build.

It fun alot of ego driven people roam though so be prepared for party invites and duel challenges. I just don’t even bother anymore cause I usually can guess the conversation depending on the scenario.

Most Roamers respect duels if they see you 1v1. Alot of roamers come back for revenge kills. Alot of roamers builds are setup for 1v1’s usually.

There are some small man groups that don’t care and will run you over with 5 people kind of rare but it happens.

Some roamers jump up and down because you failed to kill them Warriors, Thieves, and Mesmers do this alot.

It’s fun just don’t let the ego get you. Alot of people like to try and tease and troll built more to run away then actually kill solo they want you to chase again Warriors, Thieves, and Mesmers are classes that you might find do this more often then other classes.

Cactus.2710:

iggybl.5034:

Massive blob capping empty towers then switching to different borderland; it doesn’t matter which side is doing it, it is fun for no one. It doesn’t matter if ESO will be any good or not; it is at least somewhat different.

Any game (such as ESO) where the devs are at least TRYING to craft a viable open world PvP mode is more deserving of our attention than GW2 has been. ANet isn’t even pretending anymore …

TESO AvA might end up as bad, it might fail horribly.

GW2 WvW system is bad and has failed.

I would rather gamble on ‘might’ than ‘is’.

GW2 is a solid game. The combat is good, the classes are great and lots of other good things I like about the game. I am just tired of playing in a marginalized game mode.

Zylonite.5913:

What is Anet’s plans if any, on how to keep WvW going?

Picture an empty, unkept yard with nothing but a tumbleweed blowing past.

Yeah, don’t get me started on those kitten bears that can tank everything.

Regular WvW has become increasingly untenable. Players are spread out over too many servers, and there’s too much of a disparity between the players that are still serious about PPT, and those who only want to have fun and fight other players / guilds. Many of the latter have abandoned regular WvW for EotM, or hot join blobs, whatever it is. Anet has only exacerbated these flaws by:

1. Never addressing what the role of guilds in wvw is, giving them any recognition or material reward for playing well as a group.

2. Making siege mechanics far worse with WXP abilities. Rarely is there an even, hard fought siege these days. It’s either a k-train with an insurmountable blob doing PvD, or an upgraded keep that has a nearly insurmountable amount of siege, plus the WP bug and war banners to deal with if you do spend hours getting inside. Most groups will map hop or wait for coverage gaps rather than commit to a long siege.

3. Disparity between roaming and zerging builds. Most of the best roaming builds / classes are almost useless in a zerg, while players with a zerg build are almost useless trying to roam or fight roamers. If you want to do both with the same character, you pretty much have to carry around 2 sets of gear, 2 sets of cons, pay to reset your traits every time you want to change roles, and manually set traits. Only the most avid WvW players will commit to this, and it’s almost completely unrealistic with ascended gear (and so are alts).

4. Long line of broken promises, terrible communication, general lack of care. We’re going to fix the commander system, do something about equipment acquisition, better reward scouts, just to name a few. Whoever is responsible for WvW PR has either been reassigned or spends 39.5 hours a week playing flappy bird under their desk.

Anet plea……

Welcome to Guild Wars!

The place where OP builds get nerfed, because you guessed it…. They’re OP.

From their ashes, other OP builds rise up. Then, they too get nerfed after awhile.

It’s the circle of life!

Spyder.9713:

Deli.1302:

Server A has 30+ people willing to do the night shift.
Server B has no one willing to do the night shift.
Server B gets night capped by Server A.
Whose fault is it?

Server C’s fault

Wrong…it’s always the Canadians.

Nah, man, you`re just too good. That signature frightens your enemies so badly, they´re shaking too much to put up a fight.

I wouldn`t even dare challenging someone who is bombing with guilds known for being mediocre at pressing “1” and who has accumulated the mindblowing number of 90k kills (with a z, only superstar gamers get that z).

Best regards

Show of hands on this thread for those that have played DAoC and know what realm pride means.

/hand

/points at BG video thread

Bits and pieces of pixels?

Those are real people behind those screens. They care. So I care. About the server, the guilds in it, and the people there.

That’s what kept me and my guild up until 4 AM Pacific Coast time for over a week hanging out in EB, not able to round up enough folks to take back SM, but making sure we could do whatever we could.

Was not about just winning. It was about winning for them.

I also take pride in the Fortune 20 company I retired from. Much like my server here, I admired the values it promoted both in the corporate world, their industry, and their commitment to helping community (local and worldwide).

But then, I belong to the one-quarter of the world’s population that values people and communities.

I’m just happy that my “home” here in GW2 is a server of like-minded folks.

I know there are other players and other servers that feel the same.

Server populations are irrelevant. NSP has a very high server population. Our WvW population is one of the lowest around. Pretty much outmanned most of the time.

Were you guys really expecting a permanent finisher? Pah, it didn’t cost you gems to get it.

i really hope we can close the case here

@ Troma

Troma.3250:

You miss a very important thing concerning PRX: Yep, we asked for help, but for only one reason: RUIN just came on Desolation to try destroy us

We are working on our coverage for exactly the same reason.
And since we both used to do the same, there is no point to keep arguing about.

@ everyone else

I feel like you all haven’t noticed so i will explain this once and for all

Do you wants to know why you have so many trolls here?
It is beacouse they got YOU. They got a Public.
Ignore trolls and they will go away.
Keep reply and arguing and you wont get rid of em in thousand years.

So please do not complain about forum warrios if u keep feed em.

“Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” –Mark Twain

So i really hope next time we can have a laught together rather than waste time in useless argues.

Kresh

I must say many of you, despite stating you don’t like the trolling & flaming, do like to feed the trolls whole banquets.
It’s friggin’ boring.

Your thread is fun ^^

I just want to share with you some funny memes that all your comments inspire me (-:
I don’t blame anyone as I don’t take any part of this match, so don’t take it for yourself, everyone could use it to poke fun at his opponent =)

Extremely long post, sorry. It’s practically the same that I wrote the last time but I think that it should be mentioned, since many people seem to agree with it. I’ll put a TL;DR at the end.

I find it weird that people are seriously talking about doubleteaming after SFR and Piken tried to take Vizunah’s garrison together during the last matchup. Vizunah players didn’t whine about it and they earned my respect for acting that way.

This is the way I see it, being mostly a roamer (when not in guild raids, at least) :

There is a war going on out there. If you want us to attack Vizunah instead of SFR you should give us a reason to do so. Reset their towers so that they won’t be the fully sieged tier 3 fortresses that they are now, for example. You are supposed to be the best server in Europe, according to what SFR people say. If you can’t reset Vizunah’s objectives how can you expect Piken to be able to do it? Unless, of course, you just can’t capture Vizunah’s objectives either – which is nothing to be ashamed about, we are talking about Vizunah, not some bronze league server. Just because you beat Vizunah some times when they were having some internal problems doesn’t mean that SFR is magically the best EU server. Unfortunately for all of us (VS people included), Vizunah is way stronger than SFR people make it seem on these forums.

Act in a way, both in the forums and ingame, that won’t make us want to hunt you down the moment we see you. If I’m in a hurry (to get to my commander, for example) and I see an enemy waving I’ll wave back and keep going to where I wanted to go. If that enemy ganks me with five others and then starts jumping on my corpse I’ll get as many people from Piken as I can and I will go where his party is, kill them and then attack as many towers and camps from his server as I can. You can use your imagination to find out which one was the Vizunah guy and which one was the SFR one.

Don’t forget that behind that “Piken Square <rank here> [quild]” tag is a person that both doesn’t want to just die on the gates of a tower that he can’t capture and gets angry at people offending him.

Your problem is that SFR people have acted arrogantly when they managed to beat Vizunah at their worst days in the past and are now feeling what it’s like to make Vizunah angry. I understand why SFR people were proud of beating Vizunah (and it was no small achievement, I won’t deny that) but getting a couple of victories didn’t prove as much as you guys might believe. Vizunah got out of their problems stronger than before and started to destroy SFR just like they were doing in the past, it’s just business as usual now. Not every server can be “the best EU server” (as in “best in the PPT game”, obviously, since we are talking about ticks here) and that’s ok, it’s not a reason to offend anyone. One might even say that your server’s PPT isn’t all that important, having fun while fighting and taking part in nice fights is what matters most. That lack of respect that SFR people show is what is making you lose and it’s on your hands to do something about it.

TL;DR : Vizunah’s objectives are defended extremely well, SFR’s aren’t. Vizunah players tend to show respect to their fellow players, even if they are not from their server, SFR players tend to be a lot more aggressive. SFR has also caused problems in the past on both Vizunah (took their first place before the seasons) and Piken (the Riverside-SFR-Piken matchup wasn’t fair and we all know it – the way SFR players spoke on the forums didn’t help either). Let’s stop the whining, change our attitude and have some fun out there. It’s just a game, many seem to forget that.

@ Falkynn

1. Holidays keep ER in first league , hmm . Maybe the Fact that you cant drop out of League because Season 1 is still running " might " be the bigger Factor.

2. Your interest in Kodash Balls scares me a bit.

3. People need to go to work / school anyway so i dont think that would make anybody mad. Its a long known concept doesnt matter which Game they play in their free time.

I think I can only conclude.

There is not a single GW2 player alive who can count.

Makes too much sense. Won’t happen.