Ok so in dungeons with full berserker/scholar runes whats better? Does mantra push alot more dps or would the support from using utility’s in shatter be better?
What traits would you use? An yea if i had money to blow on scholar runes i would prolly use them too but swiftness is nice too for now.
So I have been playing around with mesmer builds i tried the boon support and passing boons off its fun different, but not my style. I tried doing condition stacking its decent but you have to build your stacks. In all honesty if you want to slap something around quick try this. http://tinyurl.com/advlxry
I have been having a blast I use knights helm and legs the rest is berserker with centar runes cause i hate being out ran. i run berserkers jewlery and weapon as well with a sigil of blood cause you crit a ton and it has a 2second cooldown. Con’s your squishy very squishy. stay alive know your fights know when to use your heals and dodges or when to daze targets to kite away give ya some breathing room and your good. Just watch the numbers its definitly a burst build and fun. oh dont forget your food and oil i sugest a life leeching food to midigate splash dmg that you would rather not avoid over a big hit.
I hadnt really seen any builds out there about this but im sure they are out there. Just figured I would throw out my 2 cents of the fun of the build for new people.
so i agree to a extent some comps are going to be more compatible then others i my self run a mesmer/guardian/3 warrior group and love it its fast and can addapt to any challenge an thats cause we are speced to work together one warriors strait up dps ones shouts an others banners guardian keeps retaliation up constantly and mesmer is dps and time warp. i agree if you pug you can get comps that just dont work well together at all. but for the CoF example just put a tanky person on add duty have them kite them around and smash them while others focus on supporting him by tossing out boons when they see his hp lower but thier focus is killing asassins an if you get agro just kite it you dont have to kill all the adds so needing a aoe isnt nesasary you just gota kill the asassins
So i have 5 80’s I would say im fairly advanced. That being said when I play I like to get stuff done im fast as I work alot so I have about 2hrs a night to play or so. Anyways I loved running AC i could nock it out fast so the time/reward was good for me. As I said im fairly busy but I still play and I am a very good player I run support builds I very rarely go down let alone die. Heres my problem with the new AC I have no problem staying alive its the other 4 people I have to worry about. I can dodge stuff I can move alot of times they just arnt quick enuff. So they Die and then what happens im faced with restarting the fight cause im still allive, finish the fight cause i can it will just take 30mins or dyeing so everyone can respawn. That wastes soooo much time and for somone who is limited its a huge turn off. Thats why i dont run Arah I know some people can do it in 30mins or less “some”. the problem is when you have minimal time to play you cant always run with your “guilds group” or your friends just cause they have lives as well and arnt on at the same times. so you pug one you never know what your going to get. the way its set up now there is no room for error you have 1 weak link in your group your completion time just jumped up. I personally would have no problem with Longer dungeons where i could run fewer in my time if the rewards were increased as of right now the way AC is set up it should be 100tokens instead of 60 cause its just that much more difficult. anyways if they keep increasing times in dungeons and still rewarding 60 tokens which is a joke for 45mins-hr time when i can get 60tokens from some runs in 15mins. Ill be forced to quit cause the one thing i enjoy doing in the time i have will not be enjoyable anymore not for just 60 tokens.
Unfortunatly i cant test it im at work for another 8hrs or so lol was a idea i had on my way up here. Just figured someone might have tested it previously is all. Ill test it when i get home.
No. Illusions are illusions, not companions. Both are counted as allies.
so wouldnt elementals be elementals then? but they work as companions
Yea I’m not to sure how to test it out. I would have already done so. anyhow the runes are free off my ranger lol so wont cost me anything. Rangers are pointless so i got no prob taking them. Im not sure how you can tell if you get a 10% dmg increase or not would it be in your attributes or have to do a average of dmg done?
Normally I would think no, but if ya follow the link look at the notes down at the bottom. It says “The damage bonus for six superior runes applies for any summoned pet, such as Glyph of Elementals or Sigil of Demon Summoning.” which I would consider a elemental pet the same as a illusion. Reason being they only last for a short time just like mesmer clones only last until mob is killed or shattered.
Does the #6 on Rune of ranger count illusions or clones or phantasm’s as companions?
So let me explain it for yall from SOS.. all the guild leaders on SOS that were leaders of big WvW guilds had a alliance going. Well Since JQ had all those xfers before paid xfers came out it was pretty much JQ romping us in coverage all day long. It got boring to them cause in the end its more about coverage then it is skill. So all the Alliance went to Black Gate. Anyhow most of the people on SOS are now just pve people and very casual wvw people. Dont expect any big fights im guessing we are going down to tier 4 or so when all is said and done.
Yea same prolem illusions are doing 5-10dmg
Haha i was wondering what was hitting for 5-10dmg yesterday makes sense now why stuff was taking soooooo long to kill
So, heres what I gota say about it. Good job anet with a great game ill give 40bucks for some gems an some storage space. Oh, and for the people that dont like to support the game changing gold to gems thank you as well for raising the gem-gold rate. You made me money with my left over gems after storage space was bought
sweet thanks yall i apreciate it
Im sure this is some where I just cant find it but does %crit dmg from your gear also boost your illusions %crit dmg?
Lol if fast runners are bugging you, I just dont know what to say you must have more than a couple hours a night to run 6 dungeons"on weekdays"? Well i dont and i need it done quick so i can make the most of reset. Sorry my play style dosnt fit yours. I just dont see the point in wasteing time on something that can be done in 15-20mins. Quit stareing at the scenery move your butt and kill some stuff its that easy. Anyways post it “hey I will be exploring every crack and under every rock in this dungeon” on gw2lfg I wish you luck with that. Let us fast runners know thats your plan so we wont join your run.
Also changing the kick option is stupid its perfect how it is. If we get a oh you cant kick for 15min thing. I will drop the group and reform without you and finish the dungeon in the 15mins it took waiting for you.
Dont ask for a spot.. you will never get one just type /join name and then if your in your in if not it will fill to fast to ask dont waste your time typing.
So I dont know all thats been said cause there is 8 pages but heres my 2cents. I dont take lower lvls than 80s because.
1. You cant rez run anymore so if your low lvl person dies while skipping mobs they cant rez and come later you have to wait.
2. Yes your stats change but obviously a exotic 80 has way more stats and has access to all the food/stone/oil/potion buffs.
Thats it as far as low lvls. I also dont take theifs or rangers.
1. They die too fast.
2. They dont spec to support the group just them selfs.
3. Rangers dps just is kittens right now.
Disclaimer I know not all low lvls and all rangers and all thiefs are bad. When it comes to these I will only run with guildies that I know support and can pull their weight. Anyways when i form a group thats why i form it how I want it.
What i suggest is if you want to run the dungeon on a lower lvl toon create the group. Let everyone know its a come all group on gw2lfg.com
Call me elitist or what ever, but I took the time to run the story mode, and took the time to form the group. I got every right to take the time to form it how I want.
Hmm interesting alright that makes sense. Guess ill have to craft me some clerics gear lol. thanks yall.
Ok so first off i love the build its amazing i personally play a support guardian so in the support builds i love them. my guild loves bringing me along, even speed runs lol. anyways my only comment would be an correct me if im wrong but healing power scales horribly with regen. wouldnt you do better in say knights gear or soldiers? im still learning memsers but i know with a warrior when i run banner builds for 100%regen i dont use healing power cause it just scales bad its better used in another area but when i run shout heals ill use a lot of healing power cause its not so bad for the burst.
so basics i run greatsword 0/15/30/20/5 build
power 1745
percision 1847
toughness 1970
vitality 1130
crit dmg 60%
healing power 265
boon duration 45%
crit chance 48%
armor 3184
HP 12945
I think it’s good not so much cause of the condition dmg but the more times you can pop that button the more might you get from the 5 in virtues.
So i run a high crit greatsword ah build 51% and have minimal health and decent toughness as well. I run the 0/15/30/20/5 and love it . Really the only difference i see in our builds is instead of using sets of runes. i personally use 2 superior monk runes 2 superior water and 2 major water that gives you + 40% boon duration retaliation never drops and protection stays up long. crit an toughness is way to go with a AH build though use the 10% defensive signet and healing signet an get the 20% faster signet. also there is some food chocolate omnomberry cream it gives 20% boon duration with the crit u got ur doin nice dmg all the boon duration and ah will help keep u alive. i wouldn’t worry about vitality i sit around 14-15k hp my self and thats plenty.
Alright im glad it isnt my router or my system makes me feel better others are having the problem lol i thought something was going to die on my end
Ill be playing for about 5mins then all of a sudden everything stops moving my buttons when i click them just flash then all of a sudden everything catches up and goes off at once then it runs smooth and repeats. is this being worked on or a current problem with others? I also called my ISP to see if they were having any problems on thier end and they said everything seemed to be working good refreshed my modem and put me on a watch for internet crashes but hadnt caught anything. as well my ventrilo isnt disconecting or reconecting so the only thing left is the game its self.
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I think the problem people have with thiefs is there is just so many that are worried about them selfs. an by that i mean they dont spec in a way to help the group they spec to do dmg and have little survivability if they arnt using stealths. that being said there are good thiefs out there but i think the number of ones that just bring dps to the table give say venom leechers or other support builds a bad rep and people just dont feel like taking the chance.
yea it was fixed earlier in the game. i used a box and got all my items actually i bought 3 boxes of the same thing and sold 2 later cause they jumped in price but i did use one and got every piece.
the only complaint i have about guardians are mobility but i love my guardian i have a blast. just sucks having to use a weapon and 2 utilitys and a trait to make it so you have almost 100% of the 33%run speed bonus
a link to a thread i made its a AH healing focusing on boon duration and retaliation while not losing dmg.
So first off im not going to take credit for the build I got it from DaedalusDragon. Hes the master mind unless if he got it from somone else lol anyways. http://tinyurl.com/b6dpsdb
Heres my part gear selections I use 3 sets of soldiers gear power, toughness, vitality boots, gloves, shoulders and the other 3 are berserker set power,precision, crit dmg chest, helm, legs for jewlery i use Lyssa karma gear precision, toughness, healing power soceted with Ruby’s. For runes I use superior water, major water, superior monk. thats 40%boon duration. for food i use chocolate omnomberry cream for the 20% boon duration makes it a total of 60%. oil i use master maintenance oil for the bonus precision. for the sigils in weapons its sigil blood, and sigil superior battle.
its very solid survivability and does nice dps. lots of support with the protection, regen, retaliation, stability. the trick to the build is dont spam your buttons you dont want to blind something when you have retaliation up you want it to hit you. when retaliation drops then blind. switch to staff for heals and might 12stacks for everyone else 15stacks for you. also dont pop stand your ground if you have symbol of wrath down you will waste retaliation use a aegis f3 if you are trying to avoid a knock down instead. so in the boon duration is what makes this spec shine longer mights longer retaliation longer protection shorter shouts shorter sigils means faster healing and retaliations. use your virtues f1 spam it this build is meant for it, it resets when something dies, use the aegis for avoiding stuff always always pop all your virtues before your use your elite if you dont your missing out. anyways i hope this helps somone cause i know i was totally lost when it came to my guardian for a while.
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I run the same setup of traits i use gs and staff an of course all other weapons in bags for situations. Anyhow i use soldier gear 3 pieces boots gloves shoulders for chest legs helm i use berserker i put runes that increase boon duration 2 water superior 2 water major and 2 that i cant seem to remember the name of lol but they are superior. For jewelry i use lyssa karma jewelry i think its per, tough, healing i put ruby orbs in them. Then i use sigil of bloods in staff weapon swap gives might. Use life leeching food and precision oil. So thats my toon i do it because i find i still heal well and i have high precision about 50 crit with oil and 70 with fury. So it heals good enuf to stay alive and do a decent amount of dmg as well. I used to use knights and clerics stuff but it was just to much healing i was over healing alot and not pushing as much dps.
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simple solution for everyones problem build a shout warrior or a guardian or a banner regen warrior and stay alive. no but seriously there comes a time when you have to have support players. but when i see a 5 signet warrior join a group i initiate a kick cause he isnt bringing anything except dps to the table. and well since you cant rez rush anymore support is needed even more. thiefs they can run venom leeching and help throw out heals. everyone wants to play this dps game and it comes down to having players that help each other stay alive. now some dungeons are cake an you can just bash your way threw it but the ones people complain about. try taking a 5man group that has good composition and actually cordinate stuff. dont just gw2lfg it and pug with all out dpsers in a harder dungeon.
I think where 1hers shine above 2handers are the support they bring sword paired with focus gives a total of 7seconds of block 2blinds and a group regen. put a mace in there you get even more support. use a 2hander you get either retaliation and a blind with greatsword or just protection with a hammer. I think the problem is the game dosnt really need all the support from 1handers they bring to the table. Cause you can kill stuff faster with 2handers and get by. all your shouts and signets or meditations whatever build you use do the same thing as your 1hander abilities. If it were me i would make the skills more offensive base instead of defensive on weapons. like a short quickness or might or something more useful because in reality you have all the defense you need with utilities.
But that’s a player playstyle thing, therefore the options. We shouldn’t request people to adapt to the way we think things should be done, if there are other ways to achieve things that may be fun to them (same old “kill it faster is always better”-not everybody believes that, and that’s ok?)
I mean no offense, of course, and you are right to play whichever way you choose.
yea no i totally agree to each their own. I used to run around with a mace and focus cause i liked throwing boons on everyone. was fun then it got boring and switched it up to higher dps less survivability. makes it more challenging but your right it is whatever you wanna do. the only thing i was saying if the 1h weapons had more offensive boons you would probably see them a lot more.
I think where 1hers shine above 2handers are the support they bring sword paired with focus gives a total of 7seconds of block 2blinds and a group regen. put a mace in there you get even more support. use a 2hander you get either retaliation and a blind with greatsword or just protection with a hammer. I think the problem is the game dosnt really need all the support from 1handers they bring to the table. Cause you can kill stuff faster with 2handers and get by. all your shouts and signets or meditations whatever build you use do the same thing as your 1hander abilities. If it were me i would make the skills more offensive base instead of defensive on weapons. like a short quickness or might or something more useful because in reality you have all the defense you need with utilities.
use it or sell it its account bound cause its a AC only drop kinda like Superior runes of the monk. but you got lucky RNG well i guess you could say lucky lol since its a rare useless item
I like the sword for pvp it has a awesome gap closer. Its decent burst dmg too the shield is horrible though i would take focus over it any day i love shields but not on guardians . the torch combos well with sword imo gives you 2 burst skills 1 skill passive burn while your dpsing.
DaedalusDragon I happened across this post yesterday and found it interesting. I never heard of the build before and i always felt like my guardian was sub par of my warrior i still feel that way a bit, but not so much anymore. This build is freakin awesome i loved it i got him set up for 60%boon duration all the retaliation just does nice dmg, and the survivability is strong. Not as much dmg as my warrior no but its good for how many boons im pushing to the group where my warrior only pushes regen. Anyways i love it thanks for the build.
thats thier way of putting it off and saying just forget about it..
So here is a banner warrior I use for dungeons. I play a thief in wvw so not much good there. but I use this in knights gear and emerald jewlery. Lots of crit and every time you blade trail you gain fury with the way the traits are together. Its awesome DPS and survivability all the crit your leeching life like crazy and your supplying the hole group with 100%regen.
http://tinyurl.com/b5o6lw8
edit: also dont forget to keep a bow/gun in your pocket its much needed i like the bow for its aoe personally but it dosnt really matter.
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from playing my warrior and messing around with it the only time i run full cleric gear/ solider runes is with healing shouts. when i run banner regen i focus more on my offensive skills and just let the banner regen without much to +healing and just do more dps in turn droping stuff faster. both are very well rounded just really depends on who your runing with cause 2 banner regen warriors is pointless since it dosnt stack regens.
I totally agree with the OP we need something different inorder to have speed we have 2 fill 2 situation slots with shouts and use a staff so 1 weapon set and 2 skills.. when other classes just need 1 skill or in warriors case 1weapon and 1 skill. An to do dungeons and stuff with the group out running you it kind of forces guardians to do shout builds. That is if you want to even keep up close with your team going threw the dungeon. anyways something does need to change with this cause thats just to many skills to chain for run speed when other classes need 1 or 2. oh and you have to use a trait as well forgot that for the 20% faster shouts.
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So something like this ? Http://tinyurl.com/a2lyylr
Well i tried linking it on my phone but it wont make a direct link gota copy and paste it.
Sweet thanks a ton for that. I have been using sword pistol to lvl i like it alot too just pistol whip seems like if it gets evaded ur rooted thats the only reason im avoiding it but then again its not too long of a root. Its a possability im going to jump in spvp an test it out. Thanks again
So im new to a thief hes almost lvl 80 and im looking for a build i should start gearing for. Few questions is it viable to go with condition dmg sense alot of people can remove them? Would it be better to stick with direct dmg and not rely on condition ticks? I was thinking pistol dagger if condition is viable if not im leaning to sword dagger. Anyways im looking for advise from tested wvwers cause now days gear costs to much to try everything out lol. I appreciate all help i can get.