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id rather build like this, but even then rifle is no good choice (actually, warrior in general is no good choice at the moment 
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As it stands, thieves are mid-tier atm at best in TPvP – while you might feel it would be “Fair” if chill affected their weaponskills in some way, its a power reduction on a class that already doesn’t really have a solid place in TPvP.
In addition, the game isn’t built on being “Fair” – some classes have higher base HP – some have great access to dodges – others have great access to block. It’s not fundamentally flawed if chill affects thieves differently. “Balanced” or “Fair” does not mean that every condition effects every class exactly the same way – just that every class is relatively close to each other in potential.
Well, I really get what you want to point out. Ofc you have to look at every class and its capabilites as a whole and in comparison to all the other things around BUT…
…any kind of ingame mechanic has to be consistent within the whole game. Like if you get hit you will gain some amount of damage calculated by the damage formula. You fall from a high cliff you die. You get affected by fear you will run away from the source of the fear in a straight line. And so on….
At the moment the chilled condition feels inconsistent to me due to the fact that the thief is not touched by the increased CD at all, whilst every other class is, in deed.
You said thief class would be affected by a lower initiative reg more than any other class with ‘traditional’ CDs but I think this is not the case if you look at the different weapon skill mechanics as balanced pools.
The thief w/o chilled condition has the potential of 100 (just an index). He can use his skills (x,y,z) and regenerate initiative afterwards and use his skills (x,y,z) again. Every other class not affected by chilled has the potential of 100 as well. They can use theier skills. Wait for the cooldowns and use their skills again. So far so good. But now chilled comes in. The thief stays at his potential of 100. He has NO drawback by this condition (but the decreased movement) due to the fact that he uses initative as his potential pool. Every other class gets the drawback of either waiting for chilled to run out and do nothing or to use a skill within the duration of chilled and have a higher CD afterwards. So if you would have used all your skills while chilled all of your CDs would be 66% longer. Your ‘potential’ would drop by 66%.
Now lets assume we add something to chilled for thiefs like ‘Initative regeneration drops by 66%’. The thief could still use all the skills he would have used before (x,y,z) but he would have to wait 66% longer afterwards to use the same skills again as long as he is chilled. But since not every thief skill has high initiative costs he could still use some of his skills (maybe only z) without having to wait much longer. So this change would only affect the burst potential (skill x and y with higher initiative costs) of the thief within a short timeframe. I guess this is something many people complain about when dealing with thiefs: very high and repeating burst potential.
This is not a matter of fairness. It’s a matter of consistency. The mechanic of the thiefs weapon skills is different from every other class. (Initiativ vs Cooldowns.) Right now chilled seems not to be ‘aware’ of that there is one class which doesnt have cooldowns. In my opinion there has to be SOME kind of drawback for the thief class as well besides the snare. It would just be consistent.
P.S. Excuse me for the bad english in advance.