Guild Wars 2

By nerfing perma stealth contesting camps, anet introduced a new culling system that buffs thieves and mesmers, which is a “=FAIR=” trade.
Ya know what I mean.

Cover Girl.2580:

I’m getting SICK of the new culling patch already. Not only can I NOT see the enemies, now I cant even see my allies. /rage
Anet is doing an amazing job of weeding out the wvwers.

Same feeling. Now it’s just me in the screen for a short wile before downed and see the enemies and allies.

Technically speaking, yes, just like ppl exploit into stonemist and towers. However if you exploit into enemy spawn you cannot kill anything and will be one shot by legendary guards

Gotta say wvw discussion section is just another recycle bin.

So… in the other video more than 5 DEVS stuck in the wall of a tower, trying to climb up only to find being attacked by a group of NPCs. They survived the NPC attack, and killed a few bad guys peeping them making a “how to free oneself out of the wall of a tower in wvwvw tutorial” video without legitimate copyright (they are so decent the other guys should never find this secret that made their eliteness), making the evil blue ring red, and log off only to report anet. What honorable. This action should be praised not to be villified by us jelly, unskilled, cannot-1-v-1 guys.

ROFL. This gonna make my day.

awwww they are not good thieves. they being caught and frapsed

wvw winner reward=more bandwagoner

You can treb durios walls to flip the tower in order to take it down. There is a shelter in durios if they put up trebs there, it’s impossible to take it down from stonemist. You can set up balistae from the back of durios to take it down however.

The problem is if there is a treb in sm 3rd floor and bunch of eles trying to protect it by using focus skill #4 (Swirl winds), it is impossible to take it down unless sm is flipped.

North Lord=Ballista
Southwest Lord=Ballista
Southeast Lord=Ballista

It’s either epic hide and seek or epic liar. Judging from JQ’s long presence in T1 they shouldn’t be this absentminded, however, judging from SoS’s action after reset, they have a decent plan towards it. They split pushed our land after reset with a hell lot of superior rams, nearly took our keep, it seems possible if they have a plan hiding in stonemist. So instead of making accusations, let anet know this, and inspect if that mesmer really hide inside stonemist for more than 2 hours or he did a good stonemist jumping puzzle.

Wiredgunslinger.5480:

SBI wins poor sportsmanship of the week award and were only on day 1. Seems like no matter what SoS takes there’s always excuses. Maybe we should just start recording video of everything we take to shove it in the whiner/accuser faces.

This thread started with the mystery of the fall of stonemist starring JQ and SoS, and I didn’t see any of our guys whine here, no point whine here anyhow. This is such a strange reply.

Cover Girl.2580:

xtorma.1283:

So the guy said he didn’t cheat. You say he did. no one has proof of anything. I am certianly glad you guys are not judges or police.

Actually, we are the police…we’re the SBI… “GET ON THE GROUND, SBI!”
get it? har

^

^ jq bl is currently dominate by jq, just sayin.

Well, good defense in EB this morning. We don’t make mistake stay in unfortified stonemist while ganking by both sides, we lost two towers but we don’t let them go any further like they did to us yesterday and the day before it. Ppl are not engaging pve content all back to defense and help, which is impressive. I hope to see this attitude in NA major time.
Kudos to all the commanders and players that coordinates well. Carry on.

Raehvyn.4530:

Xyanide.8650:

kidbs.8920:

Judas.5432:

Alien.1845:

Da da da Da dah, here comes the ‘team up 2v1’ troll

Hopefully people will let that misconception go….especially in Tier 1. If 2nd and 3rd place are not teaming up on the server in the lead, they are doing it wrong.

kidbs.8920:

It’s been such an obvious double-team that it’s almost comical. Both SoS and JQ spending most of the night just camping outside of SBI’s spawn in EB. No trebs from SM are even active.

Le sigh :-( Well, Rome wasn’t build in a day, I suppose. Hey kidbs, nobody cares. Everybody gets double-teamed at one point or another in WvWvW. That’s working as intended.

Anyway, I’ll see you again tonight, SoS & JQ. Loving this week’s match between us! Don’t let up. Don’t let us win. Make us bleed for every inch of ground, every Supply Depot, every Doylak.

Glhf!

Of course 2v1s will always occur. But there is a difference between 2v1ing strategically to try and take points rather than just 2v1ing to prevent a side from even leaving their spawn. I mean once SBI had absolutely nothing left on the map it would make sense for JQ or SoS to at least grab a supply camp or something from the other side to further their domination.

Anyway, that’s all I’ll say on the matter. It is what it is. We had a colossal failure on our part last night that led to us being camped. We have people that refuse to listen to commanders yet will sit in chat blaming them that everything has been lost.

It’s obvious ppl want their badges for the upcoming ascended weapon/armor exchange. SoS and JQ sees a chance to farm by spawn camping, they could get more profit if teamed up farming homeless SBI at that time. And those SBI mindless ppl obsessed with badges certainly wouldn’t listen to commanders, they die they respawn, hopefully they will get a few badges if SoS or JQ overextended. It is all about badges. Following the commander get badges? No? Why should we follow’em? That is what happened last night in EB.

Ew. I seriously hope you’re mistaken and that this is not the attitude that is spreading across my beloved server. If you’re right then what a shame. We were the best, we know we’re better than SoS and JQ. We proved that by snatching a lead and holding our own.

And now we’re watching SBI slide down with no commanders because no willing armies. NoPe might be awesome but we’re not -that- awesome that we could win single handedly. Seeing the outman buff on SBIers is disheartening.

It used to be a sign that the Koreans were coming soon and the Americans went to sleep.

I hope I was mistaken, but two things happened today just cross referenced it. We got one guy cry for help in jp when anz is attacked by sos and ogrewatch sieged by jq. No one in team chat supports him, which is a glad thing, however it turned out to be cross-swrods in the beacon, and when I respawn to the keep I saw quite a few flooded into the mystic portal. After a while, seeing no one support him, this guy threatened to waste supply in the beacon to build siege. I got a screeny of him, he’s from a guild called Complex Idea Association.

Shortly after, I saw crossed-swords both appeared at the same time, one in speldan and the other in ogrewatch. I’m heading to speldan to check, only to find a zerg of ppl killing the champion ghost tree. And when i’m at ogrewatch jq already put some sieges, gate at low health. We only have 10-20 ppl try to defend, while a similar or maybe larger sized zerg in speldan doing pve thing. We lost FULLY UPGRADED tower with a bunch of sieges in the end.

If I can imagine what happened to SOS and JQ spawn camping us, I’d like to say this attitude is the reason. ppl obssessed with badges, didn’t care about what commander is leading, didn’t read team chat when and where is needed, only cares about their own badges. I feel sorry fot those commanders try to take our land back, for those who donate to upgrade and put down sieges, but I just can’t imagine why ppl still mindless after the disaster yesterday. Was is not bad enough to warn ppl? I’m just sad these things could happen everyday, even after 3 months of release, even after we’ve benn beaten down to t2 several times.

kidbs.8920:

Judas.5432:

Alien.1845:

Da da da Da dah, here comes the ‘team up 2v1’ troll

Hopefully people will let that misconception go….especially in Tier 1. If 2nd and 3rd place are not teaming up on the server in the lead, they are doing it wrong.

kidbs.8920:

It’s been such an obvious double-team that it’s almost comical. Both SoS and JQ spending most of the night just camping outside of SBI’s spawn in EB. No trebs from SM are even active.

Le sigh :-( Well, Rome wasn’t build in a day, I suppose. Hey kidbs, nobody cares. Everybody gets double-teamed at one point or another in WvWvW. That’s working as intended.

Anyway, I’ll see you again tonight, SoS & JQ. Loving this week’s match between us! Don’t let up. Don’t let us win. Make us bleed for every inch of ground, every Supply Depot, every Doylak.

Glhf!

Of course 2v1s will always occur. But there is a difference between 2v1ing strategically to try and take points rather than just 2v1ing to prevent a side from even leaving their spawn. I mean once SBI had absolutely nothing left on the map it would make sense for JQ or SoS to at least grab a supply camp or something from the other side to further their domination.

Anyway, that’s all I’ll say on the matter. It is what it is. We had a colossal failure on our part last night that led to us being camped. We have people that refuse to listen to commanders yet will sit in chat blaming them that everything has been lost.

It’s obvious ppl want their badges for the upcoming ascended weapon/armor exchange. SoS and JQ sees a chance to farm by spawn camping, they could get more profit if teamed up farming homeless SBI at that time. And those SBI mindless ppl obsessed with badges certainly wouldn’t listen to commanders, they die they respawn, hopefully they will get a few badges if SoS or JQ overextended. It is all about badges. Following the commander get badges? No? Why should we follow’em? That is what happened last night in EB.

Raehvyn.4530:

Stormbluff Isle was camped outside the spawn because people were being silly. They ignored commanders and refused. Commanders stopped commanding and left. This resulted in SoS storming all over while JQ just farmed the heck out of our spawn.

It was 2v1 but like others said that is how it goes, the name of the game, and it was only like that because we played stupidly and didn’t just -go around-.

<3 Nyx, Zz Aprohite, and Ulysses, and any other unsung commanders who tried and failed to rally the zerg. Good effort!

Well, can’t say much about anet policy.
Introducing FotM —-—→> ppl doing more pve rather than wvw
Introducing Ascended Armor in WvW —-—>> ppl give no attention to commanders, only care about badge farming. “Who the f*c is that guy” “Why don’t he/she kitten ” “Block’em”.
A failed decision with more failure amendment. GG.
Anyways, we are fighting our way back. Hopefully some other servers would take those bandwagoners, thanx a lot.

I was about to say my alt is fine while my main stuck in loading screen, now my alt get kicked too lol

Anyone experience connection error? When you use waypoint or change a map (eg. from Lion’s Arch to EB) you will get kicked.

Highlet.8039:

zoobaby.7804:

Jack Backslash.6287:

no I just bring up Blackgate coz they totally H8 SBI. to the point I would think they would jump at the chance of a 2v1 against them.
JQ is the weak link in T1, atm

LOL….JQ hates SBI more that BG.

If a JQ squad sees SBI and anyone else fighting, who does JQ kill first? SBI
Likewise, if SBI sees JQ and fighting anyone else, we kill JQ first.

While respect has grown between the two servers, there is definitely strong hate present.

Jade Quarry here. I can verify this. Zergy Stormbutts always die first if there is a choice. But honestly, it’s because SBI fellas seem to love to taunt more so (or it seems) than other servers I’ve played against. More power to them, but don’t expect to not be have some hate for the SBI server when opposing players see that.

The hatred between SBI and JQ can be traced back to August, let’s say it is historical reason. The respect grows with it since then. JQ is always our first priority, and I guess they have us the same way.

Score update:

p.s. I’m also leveling my alts and alt of my alts in wvw. and i see my guildies doing the same thing. So, it is not just sos have these lowbies, sbi also got someone like me which is underlevelled.

And i’ve seen ppl kiling grubs when we are about to assult jq keep, our commander lost more than half of the zerg, hence the plan failed. The mighty grub protected valley once again. I know these should happen in all T1 servers, we dealt problem with this since August, it’s funny how, even we have a leading like this, we got these ppl never learn to play well. Surely we have great fights, but that is another thing T1 is about.

Gwalchgwn.8946:

As for point 1 I’ve had dolyaks do this to me when I am lagging. I’m pretty sure this is purely lag related.

Point 2 I’ve seen multiple times but only performed by one person, I’ve used the report function and it is apparently being looked into. I only reported it because there were no Ele’s around at the time, they can Rez from range in about a second using a slot skill.

Saying the trollyak, I’m pretty sure it is a bug rather than lag; or it is a new specie called Chronoyak. It happens when a camp being taken while a lonely wandering yak is on the road and logically the new yak which is taken by a team being spawned.

The first one is possibly due to lag.
Signet of mercy/undeath? Also glyph of renewal on fire attunement can insta rally.
And Elixir R is another amazing stuff.

Server Rating 7 hour ago:
1 SoS 2137.198
2 SBI 2130.687
3 JQ 2105.788
4 BG 2029.461
5 SoR 1936.780
6 IoJ 1855.337

Source: http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

with the latest score update just from 1 minute ago:

p.s. SBI have no queue for all maps for nearly a week. Wish more ppl come back to wvw before thanksgiving and see what we can do.

no queue for nearly a week.

kidbs.8920:

One more thing… Swirling Winds… WTF???? A-Net you haz some ’splainin to do.

Guess it is working as intended. It is listed in the official wiki that it successfully counters catapult and treb projectiles, so it seems to be “legit”. I know if one team deploy more than 8 eles can make sieges or that part of wall invulnerable, but one treb operator with 8 try to protect is still an advantage. This is less important than portal bombs and perma stealth thieves.

“Adding brand new content to World vs. World as well as adding new reward progression.”

Hopefully this one is not like saying gw2 is not a gear grind game.

Telegraph.7509:

How about this? Alt+ F4 in the downed state causes you to be randomly transferred to another server – cross-oceanic transfers entirely possible.

Or… upon re-entering the game after Alt+F4’ing, you are transformed into a flame ram for 10 minutes.

Kudos. I like this lovely idea ^

If nothing ever refreshes wvwvw, just wait for 2013 ESO.
Not only RvRvR but also there is a 4th party probably controoled by AI

Mikitten058:

Green is the top rank in the match.
Blue middle, Red lowest rank in the match.

For EB, green has the best defensive, red has more offensive, and blue has a mix.(In my opinion)

As for borderlands, it’s the same map each one.

Nah. Lowland could be easily contested although it’s close to stonemist. It holds offensive position but easily being contested means it’s not so defensive compared to the other two. Overlook and Valley can be a threat to stonemist by setting trebs in the tricky, right place, and hard to be contested. Although lowlands has the shortest linear distance to stonemist, there is no safe place to put down trebs that threat the castle. What I am saying is those position is a balance to the server ranking, only if you know where your advantage/disadvantage is.

Current Server Ratings (not scores)
1 SoS 2144.735
2 SBI 2124.402
3 JQ 2104.798
4 BG 2032.020
5 SoR 1944.205
6 IOJ 1848.143

source: http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

if this goes on, both t1 and t2 will have the same matchup next week. only difference is SoS will sit in lowlands in eb map while SBI at valley, JQ at overlook.

As far as I know, red keep can treb anz and veloka; veloka can treb ogrewatch. So what u talking about is not in the case. all you need to do is learn where to put those trebs.

score update.

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a merged thread with 99% negative view means it’s a thread they don’t want to hear, don’t want to see and reluctant to respond.

nope. best gear not dungeon only but farm only (legendary)

making such video is risky it probably leads a nerf to mesmers
i’m probably joking, for what they intended to be nerfed has nothing to do with wvw. a thief can still steal+backstab for 17k in wvw without being spotted.

it’s wvwvw that means you will either get 2 others against u, or you and one of the server attacking another at the same time. Try to run for the tick is what is all about.

i don’t oppose to pve. but plz at least try to make them fun. this stupid one time event can be bugged is fun tho, and nothing else.
very disappointed this so called “big update” has less size than the previous halloween one, and there’s nothing to do with wvw.

sheldon.3825:

I’m one of the member from DD guild, some of ya don’t know us but we’ve been around since open-beta. but anyways..
fighting against prx reminds me of the old HoD, well of course it would since prx was the one of the core guilds in HoD. Their forces are pretty disciplined, responsive, and strong. But seems like they have gotten dirtier since last time we’ve fought against ‘em.
-portal bombing
-frame bugs
-and etc
also have about 2+ thieves to keep hitting the watergate at the keep so that we have to port back to the entrance of eternal instead of keep.
I c them using a lot of the in game sources for the best result but.. just keeps bugging me that they’ve gotten dirtier on wvw..
but it’s not the end yet.
let’s keep up til friday nite !

There are a few things that are not dirty trick. Except the portal bombs which is recently became an issue, the other thing you listed is what the old HoD did to us since late August. I can’t say it’s PRX guild, it could be other guilds. What I’m saying is those tricks have a long enough history, there’s nothing to fuss about
Keep the wp being contested is annoying, but we’ve gone thru more tricks I just don’t want to recall here. We’re doing fine so far and I’m sure we’ll sort a way to counter these tricks.

So cruel so true.
R.I.P wvwvw. I guess we will have an update for wvw 2 years later?

Pherenice.8124:

No word on WvW progressions
No Word on WvW updates
No word on WvW Culling fixes
No Word on anything related to WvW then a few hits like we have something in the future.

Planetside 2 release in 3 days, packing my bags and switch to that game untill this get sorted out.

Strange thing is that GW2 has PvP writen all over it, yet we get nothing in last patches.
Gamebreaking culling bug is making WvW a complete joke.

Seems most of us asking for a solid WvW / RvR game are once again left in the cold.
2013 Elder Scroll Online seems decent, but iam going to wait and see what that hold before buying into another hype.
Still it has more sandbox elements then GW2, thats a good thing at least

Two weird things, GUILDWARS2 didn’t have any GUILD VS GUILD content under the name GUILDWARS; the other is the wvwvw never get updated, problems never get solved, but was affected to be shut down by reasons like candycorn nodes and unidentified dyes dropping rate.

The elder scrolls online could be a great threat to guildwars2, despite the lame movement and possibly ruined game lores, but I think I’m gonna enjoy the siege since gw2 gives nothing to do with their wvw.

I like this joke
Sometimes it is just… as ever, bugged.
We can’t blame it because wvw is the most forlorn nook in guildwars2. Recent update only focus on pve and spvp, having nothing to do with wvw, so we don’t expect any fix to this. Just log off and try to requeue, sometimes it is gonna work, or you take the risk getting longer queue.

they should close this wvw discussion section and move all threads into pve section.

Supersun.4603:

It’s an sPvP nerf where a Mesmer can essentially defend 2 points at one.

The cooldown creates a down time where they can’t cover 2 spots at the same time.

WvWvW doesn’t have this issue since none of the takeable points are within portal distance.

agreed. this cooldown “nerf” is not intended for wvw, for spvp only.
the problem in wvw still there. portal bombs still rampaging around, all they have to do is bring more mesmers to turtle them since no limited number going thru portal, while culling issues.

This is not an exploit, it’s just a tactic. I know it could be annoying but that’s a “part of game mechanics” that “working as intended”.

Personally speaking, there’s no effective to stop this unless he got bored. One possible solution is to upgrade the keep to let more NPC guards it.

Gelltor.3015:

I’ve stopped using lower health pets in wvw as people kept rallying off them ><

I don’t think one can rally from killing pets. I tried several times and failed. After that I just tag other mobs, low health enemies, or low health sieges.

well they shut down wvw for reasons like candycorn and dyes. we kept record of these.

“working as intended.”
i like rabbits, rats, cats, frogs, ravens, all sort of insta rally mechanics. just kidding

kidbs.8920:

I know in my guild, a lot of us just play for fun on the weekend and aren’t too concerned with the score (we bring in our alts and grind xp). We save our serious push for the weekdays. WM generally hangs out in the borderlands so they aren’t “carrying” the entire server. Also, as Vyrance above me mentioned, many of our players are hardcore nuts that will stay up for 12+ hours in WvW, so it’s not just our Euro/Ocean coverage that pushes up our scores at night.

lol, it’s quite true. Weekends has long queues, sometimes could not get in wvw. Even if u get in you will find some player doing weird stuff like claim stonemist without buffs, dropping flame rams and trebs in the lord room of stonemist castle, killing grub when we should siege bravost. that’s what would happen in weekends. In the meantime some of the guilds in all 3 servers are just farming for karma, running around cappin’ supply camps where conflict with the strategies. And quite a few whining about other servers camping jumping puzzles, keep offering them badges in the puzzle area instead of doing normal wvw content. Anyways we struggled hard to catch in points in the weekend, until when all things above are settled, when ppl start to play seriously, it is already weekdays :P

if they can fixed the rending issue, i’m pretty sure sometimes it just gives you chance for badge farming. a failed turtle tactic means you can get as many badges as you wish. shockwave and meteor shower, all badges are yours.

CarelessKrow.8032:

Kainazzo.5847:

You know why you keep losing JQ? Because I just went in to the EB JP and saw 30 of you there camped out locking the place down. This nets you nothing and SBI will win again because of your absolutely ridiculously poor choices of “tactics”.

There’s one commander on EB who dedicates his time to grub farming and sieging the puzzle. We call him a troll, but unfortunately he brings his friends and they try to rally people there non stop in chat. They then waste our already low amount of supplies on building siege.

Frankly, it’s not what we want either. The actual commanders try to run strategies, but there’s just lack of numbers and unnecessary stress among us because of this.

This happens to SBI back in the day when facing HoD. ppl trolling on grubs and jumping puzzle, give no shot about either taking or defending towers, keeps. All of a sudden these drama gone when SBI fall to tier 2, and appears again when back to T1. After many times of this loop, not sure if they fed up or really learned to play wvw, it’s quite rare to see it happen again. Yes, rare, I mean even when we are green we still got a lot of ppl killing grub when they should be sieging bravost or durios.

this grub has been the lol reason for 2 months. long live the grub!
last week when assaulting bravost i noticed that a buncha ppl m.i.a and of course failed. the reason is the grub! this is why the grub stays there, it helps defending blue territory by distracting the red or green team.
of course it’s all joke^

morrolan.9608:

Fuzzion.2504:

The new ascended armour will be wearable in WvW.

ALso do not fear the new armour, its only a minor bump up.

Extra 5 on precision and power for 1 item. Extend it to full armor and jewelry and its an extra 55, thats significant.

Plus the extra 7% magic find.

it is not extra 7% mf. u have to realize there’s no normal slot for crest/jewel, so the equvalent stats added to itself make it 10% magic find. the only slot is defensive infusion, pretty sure nothing to do with extra magic find or critical damage. so each trinket gives another 3% mf at most where as 18% or 21% more magic find if u have 6 or 7 (7 counts on “back”). not sure how they do with critical damage. if each trinket have 2% more, it is quite imba to have 10% to 12% critical damage total. that is the significant part of ascended trinkets.