Guild Wars 2

Now this is a thread i could support. Please, please leave HOT content as it is. Its finally a GAME, you can’t feel god in the game without cheats, and MMOs are not about cheats, they are about community.

Meerkatjie.7402:

there are a lot of mobs that seem to have cripple or other attacks that slow you down – and most times I have died.

Errrm, condition cleanse? Blocks? Teleports? Gosh i can argue that mobs kill you in this game, but to run from them — any class can do it easy, man. Really.

Sekhmet.6153:

If some players are struggling with the content and feel they can’t enjoy it, then some skill levels are not going to have enjoyment out of the game.

What was that even supposed to mean?

StephyA.5380:

Tbh, I like the challenge.

While I do agree that some mobs needs nerfs (especially with how bad of damage the pocket raptors cause, almost doing as much damage as a champion at times), I do feel

The raptors are just other attack pattern. You agro them, you see they coming and evade when all pack is just on you, turn back and give them some lame AOE — they are all dead.

Could i just drop somewhere a vote for Please Leave This Content As It Is?
Last 3-4 days i’ve actually enjoyed playing gw2, and it wasn’t like this for a long time. I’ve enjoyed learning which frogs are actually dangerous and which not, their pattern of attacks, whom i should kill first. I’m still running mostly zerk equip, but changed a bit of accessories to adapt. It is fun. There are actually no packs of elites spawning unless near runs a train of adventurers, who would take care of elites anyway.
And yes, Veterans now look like they really ARE veterans, not like they were eating better in childhood.

I’ve just finished Verdant to 100% and it was really amazing — you don’t need other than updraft and bounce to finish it. You spend the time in canopies watching and making photos, and you drop on the events like batman, what could you wish more for?

Please, Leave it be. It is finally fun.

and IDK ele diamonds are incoming anyway.

No, i won’t come up. I would be glad if someone had this trait, cos gameplay of counter-to-counter is more interesting to me, especially in conquest mode, than test of who better evades (probably cos i am, of course, bad at evades).

I’m very, very sorry; since when ‘OP’ <25% ANY character doesn’t die from simple burst of almost any class?
You play condition meta, ask nerf conditions and at the same time whine on smth (AR) that just calls for burst… are you hearing yourself?

but slick shoes is so easily countered

Sorry, what? Slick shoes are the best gadget for focusing target as its not a single control but a continuos one. And in combo with other skills they are very good. The PBR is still lacking, actually. And while power shoes are very good now, its toolbelt counterpart still lacking in a sense of OP thought. Its just a damage addition and its good for only half of builds by design.

And i agree that glasses are the worst gadget for now. Hope they’ll make something, i’m thriving for full gadget build – it would be like ok, i have only 1 weapon, but i have 6 good utilities, try to get me.

Grenades on this boss are extremely valuable due to 3 attacks, no? Drops shield much faster.

I’d suggest using wrech 3 and rifle 3 also in rotation when you jump on target – when zerk specced, its damage is very nice.

My 2 cents go in this thread as its at least dev visited.
4 vs 5 should be solved by importing new people from queue. But, as the 4 vs 5 can happen sort of late from start, those imported new people should not be punished (in rating) if their team loses. It won’t solve, of course, problem globally, but it’s a win-win modification which will at least solve a portion of those matches.

Is it me or people didn’t read her short story at all?
Scarlett is, of course, a 100% plagiat on Harley quinn, but it’s good enough for the game level. Its not like we had a proper made character after Rurik anyway.

In now way you will get 20 bleeds solo if you only spam nades. And if you include other skills in rotation things become increasingly complex.

Personally my big dream is to go with all gear variations into field and measure a time of me killing ~5 vet trees using my best judgement. That would be really good statistic.

So? Any ideas? Thread don’t sink )

I’m not sure but probably you can hide from clock attacks behind generators. Though if most ppl are in melee he doesnt do very much damage.
The same goes for ooze guilding duo. They don’t do much damage on their own so stick on them and evade only flame.

The question is any ideas to do Foreman achievement? (kill him first and then the horde of veterans as i understood it?)

I say make those resets at least items so we can put a stack into bag. No those for 70 diamonds but those from NPC.
And please give a slap from me to a person who thought it would’ve made a good product to sell with RMT.

I would like to THANK Arena for this dungeon.
Completed it with guildies without ‘dulfy’ help, I enjoyed it very much. And the best thing is we got meta on first run, so we don’t have to hurry anywhere now %)

I’ve tried then run with PUG, we’ve made slimies even faster than with guildies but party had not enough good dps to do next one in time. Though i believe they’ll make it in 1-2 try after i had to leave.

Very fun and diverse dungeon path, great job.
Maybe only the meadow with wurms is kinda boring.

Can’t wait to try that achievement of axe guy.. can’t imagine how to right now!

Same here. :4131

Same here. :4131

I’m not sure when was last time i actually hit someone with bob in tpvp.

You said you are the one “Facerolling” in Hotjoin

I’m sorry, i just keep going tpvp in 30 ranks and facerolling with it

Yeah.. sure. Now who’s is very attentive?

but simply how strong the Grenade Kit is when you have full stacks of Might

If you read through thread from beginning, yep, my basic idea was that might stacking right now is broken in general and that ppl should train some other engineer builds if they don’t want to cry when they nerf might in generic.

Sorry, i’m not sure why are we having this argument if you use TK instead of grens. Of course if you don’t have grens you can’t spam the hell out of enemy because you have nothing to spam. Let’s close the discussion before you bring more fantasies about me playing hotjoin and all.

I get what you want to say, but is it really the build skillcap? IMO the things you mention is a generic positioning/dodging skill which would do good for any character and build.
See, you mention it yourself:
*you don’t need to learn burst rotation
*you don’t need to learn when is the best use of your utilities
*you, probably, can’t see very good enemy movements when you begin to spam all the hell of grens under yourself and poor 3 guys around.

I could argue about timing of elixir spams, too. If you play classical HGH, with Enhanced Performance, battle sigil and +60 might duration – you will have 25 mights easy and you really don’t need to waste utilities in battle. You use them just as you need.

On the other hand, take as example classical WWW TK+bomb confusion build:
you need to learn all quirks of magnet use on real terrain
you need to learn to force enemy into eating most powerful of bombs and not evade
and yes ,
you need to remember timings of gear block and glue bomb to succesfully escape when fan goes other way $)

Even in generic sense, every engineer doesn’t need to learn the weapon swapping thing AT ALL.

So I’d still argue your top 5 skill cap point of view, sorry

P.S. I’d even argue about reactive playstyle of HGH. You see, we can’t look only on top 100 players battles. In most cases, with HGH today you can just jump on enemy and spam him to death.
Its like with BS thief: of course in top100 you have to learn all map quirks and how to help everywhere and not die to counterattacks but in lower ranks you just combo them down, end of story.

HGH is a hard build to play.

Man, your arguments would be much easier to get into if you’d supply them with an example of a competitive engineer build which is EASIER to master. Oh wait, i know one, 4 kit bunker where you faceroll your rotation till enemy got bored.

You see, my post was not to diminish your efforts in mastering HGH build, but to put in place someone who says its in ‘top 5 highest skill cap’. No, really? Are 4 others also engineer ones?
Because if not, there should be plenty of competitive engineer builds which are easier to master than HGH. This or the statement is false, can’t you see?

And am I wrong or is this HGH build has any CC

How about 3 of it?

I say you remove flashy words from topic and just post: i made another HGH build, but i like flamethrower, ok, guys?

PVE?
Neither.
Berserk or rampager or combo of them. Why would you want to kill mobs slower?

P.S. Carrion is good for HGH, not for bombs.

I just don’t see why people claim them to be so over powered.

Because you are playing it wrong?
Skill throws of grenades? Reflecting projectiles? Countering by pressure in close?

Anyone who just comes in close to hgh engi with stacked might simply melts down in seconds. He doesn’t need very strong protections cause of all condition spam under himself, not somewhere far away as you suppose.

Good ele and thief will run away, and good ranger will kite you on max distance and kill, yes, they are worst for us.

What do you do when you meet a decent, full retailed zerg?

With this build, I can take on 3-4 mobs or 2 vets in PvE or just run past them.

Or.. you could do it with just any build which have 30 in grenadier and can press 1 fast enough?

Imo it would be in the Top 5 list of highest Skill Cap builds.

I’m sorry, i just keep going tpvp in 30 ranks and facerolling with it and ppl just die. When i go any other build i have to really be on guard and watch opponent.

Nope. 10/20/0/10/30 + scholar. 50 crit, 60% crit damage. No need for might.
10 alchemy for many options, right now its elixir recharge cos i have S and C both.

1st, under 25 might #1 pistol is 500+ damage + bleed. So not that bad.
2nd, kit base damage based on pistol.

Personally using rifle + wrench zerk build now. Feels a bit like thief but instead of coming in battle, you bring battle to yourself.

They won’t nerf HGH in itself, they will nerf might stacking.
Even with 10 might instead of 25, HGH transforms in trash build due to low pistol base damage.
Also

I played HGH for a while now and I love it

I played it couple weeks and got extremely bored. I literally felt like my skill disappeared.

Make zerk build with prolly survival trinkets, and change wrench/elixir gun for situation. Its support enough, and in hi-lvl pve you won’t really heal someone who doesn’t know what he’s doing so your best bet is more control.

Of course in dredge you change grens to bombs to run door.

I hope you ppl already started to learn other build ;]
HGH condi is so going down nerf tube.

In the rifle build, why you take 25 inventions? not that much of stat, you could take 20% wrench recharge which is great.
Also, rune and sigil choice is very strange. Crit proc when you have almost no crit..

they realise the skill cap is higher than spamming 222222

Skill cap of facerolling HGH condi gren is extremely low. I blame exactly it for massive engi spawn.

The only really hard-hitting option we have is the bomb kit, which mostly nobody uses

I’m sorry but if you look around this forum for most succesful www videos, you would be proven very wrong.

A sort of bucket of alternatives (you can see that they are like bricks – swap a part of them is you find them good) to your idea
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAUl0pic3ySeF17IyoHdmotZiUUZ63HFy1DC;TkAg0UFZKSUktIXRyiGkcIB

Logically grenade barrage should be among the best weapons against a big enemy blob,

No it should not, if the people TOOK CARE AND BUFFED THEMSELVES.
What do you think all those buffs would be needed for if it starts to work your way?
But if you would take a couple of so-not-needed-on-the-www necros and just put wells before zerg, i.e. STRIPE PREPARATION, THEN, LOGICAL grenade barrage would be very good.

In my opinion that’s caused by the fact that most classes (outside of WvW zerging) aren’t nearly as effected as bad as engineers are.

Have you tried spam 2 shortbow to a retal zerg as a thief?
Have you tried fire 1 as ele?

This is so fun. I believe there is a ton of problems with nonworking traits (i mean in every profession) just cause of them being linked to some ‘old’ version of skill instead of new one.
Now i get where all the hell comes from.

I’d say good answers in 1st post already:
1) take long distance. Long range is worst for hgh condi overload. Don’t think you’ll evade blowtorch in close and that’s all: bleed and control from gren spam will do its job. No close.
That’s why i believe proper rangers are mine worst enemy in hgh condi. Best i can do is los, kill pet and hope he gives me time to recover.

2) corrupt boons are very nice. hgh condi is only viable with its 15+ mights, if they don’t have them you can overpressure them in ‘1’ vs ‘1’ spam any day.

3) There can be a variant where ppl take unlim vigor + speed (2 minor traits). This one can evade you forever. Yes he loses a bit in damage but…

TL;DR
I don’t get how people think that if some setup suffer most from some effect (here: GK/FT from retalation) it should not be like this?
The games with good ‘counters’ do usually look more balanced and interesting than those where everyone is a bit of that and a bit of this.

Take as example a confusion and a thief. It is a very similar situation. And it’s good that some setups counter some.

Well, you just can’t bring GK/FT to 3w ZvZ. Is it really that bad? Are you really necessary with those in 3w? Don’t they (your zerg) have enough damage?
I’d say control bombs + EG fields would be more appreciated by the zerg, for example.

My current build.

I’m sorry why exactly did you have kit refinement in builld with only med kit?
And why in your build do you have rocket turret instead of, say, toolkit which would make it so much mre versatile?

Btw they ‘fixed’ smth with Packaged simulant.
No, seriously, did someone ever even TRIED the trait? Can’t see what in it could possibly make me select it O.o

Btw never tried it with bomb, does it shrink fire-off delay?

How does the grenade kit fit in?

It mostly fits in as it has most even power/condi damage distribution on all our damage skills now, and the point of build is to stack might which gives you power AND condi.
Taking other damage sources is possible but that would be worse cos u see.