Guild Wars 2

in pvp chronotank is already dead since 15/12 patch.

What a shame that devs didn t wait end january for a real balance patch.

Instead they have applied same tactic than gw2 vanilla : nerf the least played and estimated class.
remember patch 04/13, or 05/13, where glams build where destroyed because of confusion bug, and didn t when up after they found the bug.

At the moment, i can t find faith in devs.

tbh i don t believe that anet ll do something on confusion, as they found confusion too strong since almost 2 years (f….ing patch April 2013 if my memory is good). I would bet a copper for a rework of scepter 1, for alteration mesmer instead.

Of course, i ll be happy to see some buff on confusion, but i m not sure it can be with the new limit of stacking =100.
It s a pleasure to read you, keep it up ( some ideas are really interesting).

@ Xavi.6591

the point of this thread is a complain of the next patch 15/10.

The heart of this patch is to allow mesmer to play a sort of bunker to keep point in spvp (by using mantras). Don t expect something for WvWvW mesmers. As Azolina i m really disapointed by the last few patchs. I think in large group it s better to play an other class at this moment.

For gvg you ll be happy to know that the dev ll put an arena on jumping puzzle of Eternal Battleground, and an easy access by B for gvg matches.

Kwaz Vizunah Square

Something i m wonder, correct me if i m in a wrong way.

As mesmer alone ( mantra no trait), when charged i have 2 * 2.5 scd of stab for moc. Something i ll use in pvp against a stun warrior for example.

According that i m a wvwvw player in zerg ( bad guy, alone moc is underpowered 2*2.5 scd of stab is not enough to be offensive. But it s an aoe boon sharing, so i find 4 other nice mesmer : we stack 5*2.5=12.50 scd stab, 2 scd later 5*2.5=12.50 = perma stab?
It should be too OP, i think that it ll be as Line of focus for speed, you share stab but it s not stacking with the other stab. So in that case 5 mesmer, if boon give in prior group u can maintain perma stab but it s far too boring. I think you can t play 2 hours like that.

@ Fay : What i wish fot theese change

i let Mor with aoe cleanse, i give a finisher combo on charging ( use when your raid raid repack in order to rebuff ).
I change Moc completely : charging moc give you stab for 5 scd if no trait ( almost guard stab it s big up), traited charging moc give you 7.5 scd stab ( almost war stab ), u can even have better with boon duration. use your charge of moc apply random boon on you and your allies.

Use Mor, Moc and nul field should be interresting in raid, zerg as your role is to boon strip and give boons.

It s just ideas of medium random player. I assume that make a balance skill is hard but perhaps we can discuss.

Prior to nerf glam build then blurred frenzy, i used to play range ( gs) and melee ( sword/t) in the middle of zerg. I was really offensive. theese nerf and the condi meta finish this type of play for me. More over zerg are better than 5 months ago.
I ve tried different builds, but nothing really fit me and gave such fun.

I leaved zerg when i play my mesmer now, i play it solo or in roam with one or two friend. When i want to play in zerg i play an other class ( guard or war ). I won t switch with the buff of mantras im not keen of charging mantra, and the way to use it. But i ve to say that this patch offer new possibilties.

mesmer in zerg: veil, portal ( ninja tower, castle, golem ), timewarp. depends what is your build

Kwaz

These buffs of mantras are quite interresting and open new way to be a part of zerg. At first i was disapointed by this news, but after a moment i think we cant do something with that.
I wish we had an access to combo ( beginner or finisher perhaps on mantra of resolve), and a way to charge mantra easier for those who ll play with 2 or 3 mantra at the same time. (perhaps cast 2 mantras in a raw, or a buff on trait protect mantras 2-20%// cast -30% cast). But i m certainly a dreamer^^…
@ Selan even if you turn around your zerg it s too dangerous to play berserker imo.

I they want us to use mantra in group we need an access to combo through mantras spe :p

Builds share by Sendmark are really effectiv in roaming u should try these. But as said Selan in zvz we don t have really something to play since glams nerf, you should keep your guard or engi for this type of play.

Change on mantra won t be enough to see more utilities in group imo. the problem is that u won t have any access to combo, ( beginner or finisher ), for group it s not enough.

@ Drix Trix : ll try to answer you.

U say that you see a lot more variations of builds, i agree but i dont see anything for warband mesmer(larg fight 30v30+). Most of new build are not for this type of game. I ve tried to adapt but it s not efficient. ( sure phantasm ll hit one time, i don t like shatter in larg group because your lead ll call for burst in one area and you don t know were your illusions ll go).

U can t use mantra because all organize warband ask for veil or portal, nule field, return, and time warp.

I assure your that the new mechanic of sword is really hard to use now. You are a great player because i can t use my sword in larg fight. Retaliation is not really the problem, before the patch i manage to go in mele now it s just suicide. difference between the old and the new : 2 second of immune versus 2 second evade : the high amount of aoe and the curse which go with kill me. immune made a tempo that we dont have anymore. Moreover since the last patch we saw a lot of necro now.

I m a little disgusted by the last 2 patch, confusion were great to play with the utilities that our warband ask to take. Forget it. The nerf of sword ( mechanic , dps ..) is hard for my gameplay, i find him very poor these days. The switch between mele and range was so cool.

I ve test interupts in spvp, it s really a good idea, but for wvwvw i find that s no t efficient. Even with nule field or wells of necro the heads of ennemies warband are under stability, so or we don t do anything the first thirty second or we don t answer the call of our leads. ( why 30 scd, just to give an idea of the time before we can be efficient. heads of warband near every time 5-10 guardian, and some warriors.)

I would like to thank you for your answer, and apology for my poor english.

It should be great to have a dev tchat for mesmer, personnaly i don t understand what the dev want to do with our class.

WvWvW is massiv fights, and the last 2 patch are hawfull for us ( confusion builds are dead, gameplay is cut ( at this day no way to play with sword anymore).

The last patch said we work for diversity of builds, as warband mesmer i don t see something new to play ( interrupt is quite useless), they only reduct our possibilities of builds.

I hope a serious revamp in the nexts months.

Kwaz mesmer ( Vizunah Square )

This patch is an epic fail. but i m not surprised, put together spvp and WvWvW is a mistake, in one hand little fight in the other hand huge fights. The balance of skill can t be good.

Comunication of the patch : diversity of build and gameplay. Outch arena is worst than politics… How can you tell that and destroy a weapon of our class ( mh sword).

as a WvWvW i ve lost all the fun of the gameplay tyvm.

More over they don t test their own patch, daze interrupt is an other epic fail, try to daze/interrupt a warband under stabilty… Every organize warband is buff and under near perma stability.

As Menaka said we are confined to veil/ portal, buff bot that s all. that s so fun. Keep spit on the WvWvW mesmer comunity Arena net.

Kwaz mesmer
Vizunah Square

A good way to have might for sure helios

roll a necro my 2 cents, dev don t give love to our class. their best fail is to balance skill with spvp sure we don t fight more than 10v10…. great joke

Kwaz mesmer
Vizunah Square

hey Osicat, you were a great source of inspiration for me in the past.

I’m really surprised you use mass daze build. I ve tested it, and i find this type of build really useless in WvWvW, near every warband use buffs before fights, and they are almost permanently under stablity. so for me mass daze build appears useless even with a lot of necros or mesmer debuff ae.

Like PH Law i search a way to play my mesmer with fun after this patch but i m disapointed by the daze alternative…

Ps: tyvm for your work for the mesmer community, your vid are always good. i apology for my poor english.

Kwaz ( mesmer )
Vizunah Square

@ Helios : sorry but he won t have stack of might , organize groups of peoples use stability, so chaos storm won t proc anything.

The real nerf on BF is mechanic and CD. I don t play a lot in pve, or in spvp, but WvWvW in higher tier, ( really big fight40+v40+), there is no way to use BF anymore. Before patch high risk and high reward. Now it s suicide.

A this time i can t see how to have a gameplay like we had before and be efficient for our warband. We ll never go in the middle of the fight with scepter…

kwaz
mesmer Vizunah Square

this change is a huge nerf mechanic of skill+cd… why touch both on this skill… Last patch dev killed confusion, yesterday they hit kitten blurred frenzy… patch day is bad day for me… As WvWvW mesmer i can t understand why dev put spvp and WvWvW on the same way, in one hand u fight 5v5,10v10 and the other hand fights are usually 40+v40+…

Please split spvp and WvWvW :p

Kwaz ( Vizunah Square)

Imo Anet don t make test on their patch. Ok mesmer can already use spec confuse on litlle fights ( 1v1 ect). But anet should know that WvWvW at least in t1, t2 the gameplay is bus 40+…. Sometimes blob of 60+, 70+ players.

Confuse spec were the only way to play against big bus, blob. They killed our maner to brain ennemy with 50% nerf confuse, but in the other hand they give nothing to play now in large groups.

Kwaz Rip
Vizunah Square