Guild Wars 2

The level of arrogance coming from Anet right now has reminded me why I don’t play GW2 anymore. You guys have been milking the gem store for 2 years now with no meaningful updates and now you want to gouge people with this ridiculous pricing format? Making people rebuy the core game?

It takes serious balls to come out here and pull this stuff, Anet. It’s almost like you don’t realize you’re game community has been in a dire state for a long time now and this was your chance to win people over. What a joke.

I want to see the developers log into this game RIGHT NOW and show one of these events with hundreds of people on screen, on high settings, running at 60FPS.

They can’t do it, because this game was never optimized. It doesn’t utilize the GPU effectively and has the same godawful framerate dips that it had in the beta. Ever notice how Anet never posts actual gameplay footage from their events? It’s because it’s a freaking slideshow and they know it. Don’t get me started on the Crown Pavilion either… I talked to people with water-cooled 8-core SLI rigs that were getting as low as 17 FPS (and lower) in some areas. Give me a freaking break…

Playing games at 25 FPS is not why we all built/bought gaming rigs. It’s flat out unacceptable… I don’t get this kind of poor performance on ANY other game I own. It’s sloppy programming plain and simple.

I thought S1 was an incomprehensible mess, and Scarlett was probably the most cliche and trite of the characters. Killing her off was one of the best decisions they ever made. In the history of the game. Ever.

The marketing department for Anet should be fired. No reprimand, no unpaid leave… Clean out your desk by the end of business hours.

The fact that anyone was allowed to market their game this way, with this pricing structure, is either malicious or incompetent… either way they have no business working for you.

Anet hasn’t continually expanded anything. Living story is a joke. After this expansion it’ll likely be another 2 years of stagnation and mediocre living story. Thanks but no thanks.

Knowing Anet, some dev just mashed CTRL-V as hard as they could and then turned the office lights off and went home to watch Game of Thrones.

Seems like everyone has an opinion on this subject, and I’m curious to know if anyone has any solid factual evidence either which way…

Some people say that GW2 is losing money, that 400,000 active players at any given time is considered “low” for the industry… and that GW2 doesn’t have the cashflow to produce the kind of expansion-pack level content that people are asking for. (and by expansion-pack grade content, I mean new zones, new classes/races, new storylines – not just mini-events)

Other people seem to think that A-net is doing just fine, and has plenty of money coming in from the gemstore and box sales. I read an interview by one of the big buys at A-net and he basically said that the “market was healthy” and that they had no cashflow problems. He also said something to the effect that the Black Lion Trading Post was profitable and that “players were doing their duty” as far as microtransactions go.

Anyway – I’m curious to know what people think about this…. The disconnect for me is that if A-net has the money to produce large-scale content for GW2 and isn’t … why? If they don’t have the money, or willingness to re-invest in GW2 in a meaningful way… what’s the future of GW2?

People often hold up GW2’s free2play model as one of the best/fairest in the industry… is the model working? If so, when can we expect actual meaningful content, such as Guild Halls, new gameplay mechanics, new classes/races?

So questioning the value of something a business is trying to push on you is entitlement? You keep using that word, I honestly think you don’t know what it means.

GW2 has had no meaningful content in over a year. Living story is not content, imho. No new races, no mounts, no significant changes to the gameplay whatsoever. I don’t know what they’re doing with all the gemstore money, (maybe it’s going to Wildstar) but they sure as hell aren’t using it to develop the game.

Back in GW1 – an expansion was an entire CONTINENT of content. Nowadays, a full-price expansion means 1 class and some guild halls. My how times have changed.

Exactly. It’s a slap in the face to everyone that has supported this sinking ship of a game for the last two years.

Vayne.8563:

darkdomino.9578:

Well, it’s been a year and the game is pretty much the same game it was a year ago… I’m curious to know why that is, if not for financial reasons.

It’s been a year and I still sometimes see my character chop down trees with his pickaxe. Hell, there are bugs in this game that are still there from the beta.

If GW2 is making money, when are they going to start investing in this game? Temporary events every 2 weeks is great and all, and I’ve enjoyed all of them – but that’s not content.

Let’s put it this way: I’d trade 5 living story events or festivals for 1 new class. I’d trade 10 living story events for 1 new playable race.

The game is still the same as it was a year ago? Really?

Aside from the myriad bug fixes (there have been pages and pages of them, many not even documented), there were quality of life upgrades (the account wallet, aoe looting, the end of culling, previewing in the market place), the addition of the Fractals, WxP in WvW, a revamp of AC, new jumping puzzles, new dynamic events, new minigames.

Maybe you’re just not paying attention.

Again, I guess our definitions are different… I don’t consider jump puzzles and living story events to be significant improvements to the game. They’re fun to do, yeah… but it’s not the same as adding a new race, or giving people something truly “new” to do in-game.

As far as things like the wallet – yeah that’s useful. I’m not gonna sit here and deny that. But do you honestly look at the new improved wallet, and then at the game world and go “Yeah, this is different.”

Hey, you’re gonna need to use a 3rd party voice program – such as Skype

Steam also has a built-in voice chat functionality too.

Assuming you’re using Skype – you would start the call with your friend, then launch Guild Wars 2.

You may want to turn the music/sound down in-game so that you can hear the other person.

Hope this helps!

Remember that time Anet forced you to get ascended items?

Me neither. Cause it never happened.

Don’t try and rationalize this… It’s a bad deal no matter how you cut it and people aren’t gonna be fooled so easily.

Ah look, Anet is deleting every thread that criticizes their horrendous pricing model and making sure the other threads get lost in a 900 page archive. Good job Anet. Stay classy.

They won’t change the pricing because it would involve something reasonable like respecting the community who has been paying your bills and keeping your lights on for the last 2 years.

Gotta love fanboys… Telling someone one thing and then behind their backs doing another isn’t LYING. Right guys? Right??

Hahaha

Or, here’s an idea, Anet could not gouge loyal customers by forcing them to buy the core game twice and have an expansion only option that is priced appropriately

The incompetence of Anet right now gives me such little hope for the future of this series. I just don’t understand how a company can be run so poorly and be so out of touch with the community. There really are no words.

My friends laughed too. Nobody is coming back to GW2 for that price.

What continual support are you talking about? Anet hasn’t updated this game in a meaningful way since they blew up Lions Arch and even then not so much.

We are talking about Guild Wars 2 right? Guild Wars 2 the game with no additional content besides living story right?

A-net… you need to fix guild permissions so that Leaders can’t demote and kick other leaders.

Why on earth you guys thought it was a good idea to let leaders demote other leaders is just completely beyond my comprehension? Don’t you realize the potential chaos that this creates?

C’mon A-net – let’s get this fixed already. Jeez.

No, you’re paying twice for the core game if you own GW2 already. You won’t get an extra code.

summed up for anyone that’s curious….

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Traehern takes all the credit.

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Really A-net? Really? I’m at a loss for words.

Nobody is denying that things like Super Adventure Box aren’t fun or interesting in their own regard.

People’s complaints are that they aren’t substantive. It’s not actual content… it’s a distraction. It’s like dangling keys in front of a baby… and as soon as the event is over, we’ll be back to square one again.

None of these events have any permanent impact on the game-world, or provide depth or meaning. In fact, the Super Adventure Box (from what I’ve read) is just one big high-five to Nintendo… that has literally nothing to do with the game world or furthering any sort of story. It was just some cool side project some Anet dev was working on.

Either way, people are hungry for actual meaningful content in this game… not just “VOTE FOR ELLEN KIEL IN LION’S ARCH” or more “<INSERT CREATURE TYPES> ARE ATTACKING <RANDOM LOCATION>!” – That isn’t content. That’s filler. That’s a distraction…. that’s all it is.

and as far as these “big projects” go… I’m skeptical. Something I’m hearing over and over among players is that ArenaNet’s budget is extremely tiny and all their income from the gemstore and box sales is being syphoned away to other projects like Wildstar. If this is the case, Guild Wars 2 is dead in the water. If 2014 rolls around and there aren’t definite plans for a MASSIVE release… I’m talking new races, new classes, new landmasses to explore, new quests, new hearts, etc etc etc… This game WILL stagnate and people will leave.

I won’t ever leave Guild Wars 2… but I gotta be honest here – there are some sweet MMOs coming up in 2014… Elder Scrolls Online being one of them. If Guild Wars 2 hasn’t gotten its act together by then, it’s going to take a back seat while I play something else for a while. Sorry Anet, that’s just business.

You’re not being rewarded for failure when you don’t complete the event on time.

You’re being rewarded for the 40 minutes you spent attempting it.

Many events in GW2 offer reduced or partial awards for failing. To me it’s an incentive… “See this? Imagine what it’d be if you had succeeded!”

I’ve been in clockwork events where all the kitten commanders all go to the same spot on the map and refused to listen to instructions and we fail. I can’t tell you how many times you see commanders in map chat wanting to posture and have kitten ing matches with other commanders instead of getting the work done.

You’re telling me I should be punished and get no reward because people are kittened and can’t finish the event?

No thanks. I’ll take my reward for failure, and you can take your phony self righteousness.

ColinJohanson.2394:

We have folks constantly working to improve performance, we’ve actually made quite a few perf updates this year. You’ll see more perf updates in the upcoming releases, we have a team working entirely on performance at all times that won’t be going away any time soon.

Even when I watch developers play their own game on Twitch, I can see the same poor performance, low frames, and whatnot on the developer’s own PC’s. Even the developers can’t run this game at a solid 60 FPS … it’s hilarious

This game is NOTORIOUS among just about everyone who plays it for having poor performance on just about every system. I know people with 3000 dollar liquid cooled desktop rigs who still experience framerate drops in WvW and the Clockwork Chaos.

This has been a constant source of frustration for me, ever since the Beta… I’ve been telling you guys for a YEAR now that your game needs to be optimized and everyone tries to shout me down… “GET A NEW PC LOLOLOLOL” … Spoiler alert, everyone has experienced huge framerate drops in this game. It’s got nothing to do with the hardware you’ve got.

So, don’t take this the wrong way – but you need to tell the “Performance Team” or whatever they’re called to pull some weekend shifts or something… cause the performance situation in GW2 is downright godawful. It makes me wonder if you guys are even playing your own game over there…. You should fire it up sometime and see how things really are.

No offense, but with all the work this game needs… This is like item number 8793592 on the list of things Anet needs to be doing right now.

Honestly? No….

I’m sorry but I’m kinda burned out on these “events” …

I may take a look at the weapon skins, but I’m not going to bust out the pom-poms and start cheerleading for this update.

The most exciting part about tuesday is simply going to be magic-find going away … and even then that’s not very exciting.

GW1 was one of the buggiest, most shallow games I’ve ever played, and I’ve played it since 2005.

Terrible voice acting. Terrible story… Thousands of fetch quests and a dull, lifeless, poorly rendered game world.

I would never go back to GW1. Even with GW2’s many flaws, it’s still a vastly superior gameplay experience.