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The most significant reward of this patch, prolly the last chance for influx of new players, they didn’t left.
They have been aforethought “ignored”, in order to serve their “vested” interests. They even brag about that on chat. Business as usual…
Here is the problem I face with the SoS change. I usually run as a duo with the wife’s Ranger. While she has her signet equipped she can move across the terrain at a steady pace. (key word steady) With my Guardian I have to stop, wait for the pulses and then move again. Yesterday when we were cruising the countryside in PvE opening Christmas boxes she had to constantly stop and wait for me to catch up. With the old system at least I could slot Retreat which along with SoS would allow me to keep pace.
I hate stop and go driving which is why I do not live in a city!
That’s the key word. To keep you pace in the middle of the fight. As in real life wars happen. So more pulses or more seconds, will not reverse the nurf. This is not a solution. The nurf has to do that we have to stay STILL to buff speed.
It’s not only the mobility. With the SoS nurf, they harmed your stability and retaliation combos and made the use o Empower and Line of Warding more difficult when the fight is not going well and your team needs to retreat in an organized way. You don’t have any way to cover a withdrawing without get killed.
They don’t have personal issues with the Guardians. It’s just an indirect buff to the two most popular proffs and I don’t think it was a mistake.
Requirement to use retreat and save yourself makes it nerf.
And you didnt have perma swiftness prepatch without those either unless fully focused on boon duration. Forcing 30 points in virtues and 45% boon duration from runes and not even then would you have 100% uptime due to how bad it stacked when reapplied.
The fact is that you can run for longer periods of time now when using shouts or having a secondary source of swiftness in your team..
His point is valid … what is the value in playing in groups that don’t all help each other out? If you aren’t, no buff or different SoS is going to matter. Changes to SoS are actually good because they ENCOURAGE good group behaviour. In otherwords, it separates people that know what to do from people that just mash buttons. It’s a skill-separator.
Spot on. Its a better team tool now. At its just great when the team huddles up to stack might before an attack. 20 s of swiftness and 12 stacks of might in 3 seconds, yes please.
Get into the game.
The fact is that you have perma swiftness with 5% boon duration, with staff and two shouts.
And you dont have to trait a single point or wait in the symbols to achieve it. This wasnt possible pre patch and ofc the staff has more group support as well.
Those are facts!
if people chose to see upon it as a nerf, well that is their choice. To me it works better than ever since i play in small groups and we always have a secondary source of swiftness.
Requirement to use retreat and save yourself makes it nerf.
^^exactly! I don’t want to use Retreat and especially SY for swiftness. It was not necessary till now. I can’t understand why people deny the obvious..meh
How did you achieve perma swiftness prepatch?
The only time its worse is in soloplay with no shouts. But why would you use staff in solo play to begin with.-
when the team huddles up before an attack, you ’ll spam SoS? Really?
You have 23 pages of posts. It’s time to get into the game and play it. Those are facts!
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Just to remind you this thread, guys. First post, first paragraph.
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Until now Guardians had “too much mobility” in the field…? and he claims that he play the game?
Ok, keep making changes using Star Wars “force”.
Well, that’s why ppl are leaving deso. All this whining and blabbing about blobs & unskilled zergs never make pleasant atmosphere. Deso and sfr are both international servers and nothing prevented deso from making strong and big www community like sfr has now. And if our commanders can’t do kitten with low deso numbers it’s their problem not sfr’s. At least don’t blame sfr for having reliable www community.
Funny how the blame goes always on the commander… No matter the numbers, what a commander can do if ppl are not following? I’m pretty sure that’s one of the main reasons why it’s hard for new commanders to start commanding.
Funny how the blame NEVER goes on the commanders and their gruppies… It’s happening in real life too, you know. Leader is responsible for the failure. It’s happening in business, in sports, in arts, everywhere. Why GW2 teamplay would be an exception?
We won the last fight? Grupies popping up on map chat: “Gongrats commander X, great job, you are awesome man”
We lost the last fight? Same grupies popping up on map chat: “Fail Deso or SFR, you are not tagged, you are not this, you are not that…” , even if the commander was doing the one mistake after the other that evening.
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Same problem here. “upgrade the game to full account”. I can’t buy or sell gems. EU server.
No , we don’t all want to fight lower servers.
I like to fight outnumbered, I like to fight constantly under pressure and when I log out at the end of the day , I would like to have been killed quite a few times because only then I have the feeling that I did what I had to do.
Big shoutout to INVI for yesterday’s fights on Stargrove. It was very refreshing. It was a very intense fight for me. I sincerely hope we will meet more often. Cheerio !
Back to buisness. This discussion about blobb this, blobb that is meaningless and pointless. Everyone blob from time to time, don’t you get that ? There are no servers who “never blob” there are situations when even 3 roaming groups sandwitch someone in one place, they do blob then right ?
Yes, thanks for the fights and hopefully we can have more.
Back to my picture, it was tongue in cheek and referring back to my last post where I stated everyone blobs and people need to stop singling out individual groups/servers. Many SFR posters on here speak like they’ve never ‘blobbed’ in their life and it would be a sin if they did, which is pathetic.
For what it’s worth, the picture actually shows a huge presence of [iddQ] and [Rise], with a few followers from [BooM], [BOOM], [FD], [VG], [ECL], [TwoX] and [TCH]. I’d certainly class that as a ‘blob’.
As for INVI, they actively try not to have pug followers when on any of the borders in order to keep it a guild raid, but yes on EB will often try to lead the pugs.
Avery brief history of Desolation PUGs in EB.
EB of Desolation always was from the main point-pools for the server and always counted on regular, for months and almost every single day logged in, (I can easily name at least 25- 30 ), players either from different guilds or guildless. We had very good commanders such Silent Leaf, Toglos (I am not sure for the nick, an Asura Guardian) Moorta and others and above all we used to respect each other, have team spirit and modesty.
Just posting to thank Ins for doing a good job commanding on EB today. Looking forward to see what the rest of the week brings.
More elitism. What else? It’s happening for weeks in EB.
P.S. Don’t take it personal. It’s not.
Same problem to me ,7:11:3:189:101. Since 08/11/2012 evening.