Guild Wars 2

only thing I want right now is a way to change stat infusions, it could cost relics or w.e. I’m sure we can agree on that…

Zephar.4519:

You need to give us a hell of a LOT more reason to give up 50% crit (Vuln = 2% crit) and Chill = Bleed with no ICD on Reaper.

PS. I had a lot more fun and got a lot more excited playing Weaver. But I don’t want to play Weaver.

oh there will be a valid reason, anet will just rework chill=bleed. Also yes weaver is quite fun, glad I don’t main necro anymore.

you already have viable pve spec’s stop crying lol

that primordial stance utility skill does a fair bit of condi damage

Just wanted to test the skills in peace, like IDK the raid training golem?

wut people actually expected anet to respond here? When was the last time anet made a comment here?

the live stream just killed any hopes for being a relevant condi dps lol

Say it with me now p-p-purity of purpose.

omg close this thread now, someone disagrees with it, close it now you madman!

Dadnir.5038:

Well, qT just state the usefulness of each profession and look for the most optimum builds for each.

Their view on the necromancer is sadly right, there is no room for the necromancer’s “support” in PvE raids, which leave just dps roles that need have pretty high damage to be competitive against other professions. And since power necro are a bit low when it come to their dps output, it’s a relief to see that at least on the condi side the necro is at a competitive level even if not outstanding.

qT is not evil or anthing like that, they just state facts that can help people to have a good view of the potential of their party as whole when they enter a raid encounter. It allow to easily know if yu enter in a group that will struggle from a lack of boon uptime and dps or not.

What the player base make out of these metric is where the evil lie.

tfw power mes does more dmg than power reaper, my heart goes out to all you power mains. Also cps being basically tied for most dmg on small hitbox whilst offering indispensable utility and not being a glass cannon, the lovely minds at anet working at full capacity.

kitten and blast, why did I make my necro an asura… Doesn’t matter what fashion I get if I’m ant-sized.

Ranger, I would say necro but other than being able to stay alive they just suck esp if you want to raid, it’s hard enough as it is to start raiding on a meta class.

what ring? Is from ls3 maps?

Well at least we can’t get much worse, though that is being put to the test…

If only a single dev actually were to see this or even browse this section, oh well. A for effort.

condi builds need vipers (well some parts anyway), which needs HoT. I mean what other reason would they have to nerf power builds to the ground.

it’s obv they just want everyone to be using viper’s stat, more expansion sales.

IDK a build that plays around w.e new stat they introduce (get them expansions sales up).

You don’t have to worry about joining rude elitist groups, simply because they’ll kick you anyway.

purity of purpose yo

welp at least this will be an easy way to buff scourge DPS for anet…

this build is kinda dead already, only effective vs this golem. Very limited application in actual raids, unlike the condi rotation before nerf.

oh cmmon another boon-corrupt…

Feothyr.6072:

JustTrogdor.7892:

Wrong. A very important part of the demo/beta experience is for customers to provide feedback. If there is something they see in the demo they like or do not like they very much should state it well before launch. This will give Anet a chance to evaluate the feedback and see if they should consider making any changes before launch day.

How valuable can feedback be if we as a player base cannot fully comprehend the extent of a feature we’re criticising? Coming across a feature and then “freaking out about it” without fully understanding it, isn’t good feedback.

All I’m saying is, people should be more cautious and keep in mind that there might be more to it than what we’ve seen so far in the demo.

True, anet hasn’t added that gem store identifying kit yet.

not a fan of the unidentified gear stuff, well how it currently is anyway.

+1 to separating the unid gear based on rarity. I feared something like this would happen. It’s also pretty much confirmed that there will be a gem-store identifying kit planned.

power builds still suck, power temp got destroyed. So yea it’s still mostly condi.

As it is, it’s unlikely you will be taken into raids, and yes kicked at times as well. Fractals are fine, there are ofc groups that want to clear fast and so necro is not welcome (and for fractal 40 farm too), but in the new 100 fractal I see necro’s being taken for their epi, CPC etc. things other than damage. So if you can forgo raids then go right ahead with the your necro, esp if you enjoy it. With the coming expansion, well I can’t really see necro’s replacing druid or a cps, though it might have a chance if the condi side of the spec is good.

Cynn.1659:

Just use special action key to block them. Suddenly you don’t have to worry about the balls.

what’s the timing on that? I’ve just been using aftershock.

people who don’t even play ele saying “nah they are fine, stop whining”, smh

Slapinator.4196:

Ah well I guess it’s kinda lackluster if your enemy isn’t moving.

torment? They changed torment to do the same damage as bleeding on a stationary target + scourge increases that by another 33%

Slapinator.4196:

Can someone explain me how Demonic Lore works, like if I use scepter 3 and apply 7 torment does that mean I will apply 7 burning as well for 3 sec or just 1 burning for 3 sec?

just 1 stack of burn

are there condi raid builds in the first place?

Fun maybe, but necro is actual trash right now, for pve anyway.

Flubbernaut.9584:

GUYS GUYS GUYS
I am the man who created this thread and…. the devs listened to us

The devs actually listened to this trash can fire I and many others started

Thanks yall for your thoughts and protests

na m8 it was the reddit thread

mygamingid.5816:

The Overload Air changes hurt FA builds a lot. Overload Fire took a hit to power damage, so condi damage is still viable. Basically, they cemented the Dagger/Warhorn condi meta for Ele. I suspect they’ll roll back the Overload Fire changes eventually.

thought dagger/focus is better for condi? Wh was good for large hitbox since it hit twice, but that got removed

Jeez, hats off to anyone who still mains necro, even through all these balance changes by the egg heads @ anet.

Anet balance team must be patting themselves on the back now, “yeah boys we did it, these changes are flawless.”

raids,fractals…dungeons? The kitten is a dungeon?

thought this would have been fixed by now…

mygamingid.5816:

Arcane Power’s cooldown is a bit long, but I do like the autocrit. I might swap out GoEP for it, Arcane Blast, or Arcane Wave. Whatever works best for you is what works best

ah I don’t even use it for the crit part, full condi ele here and love watching them massive burns stack up fast.

mygamingid.5816:

Lava Font and Meteor Shower both cause damage over time, so burst isn’t particularly strong on Power Staff Ele. Signet of Fire and Overload Fire are outstanding burns, and Flame Burst is really good. That’s three. With Glyph of Elemental Power, you add five strikes with burns. With Arcane Shield, you pick up another good burn. Both of those also break stun. Toss in Arcane Brilliance as your heal for another burn.

Plus, it’s not like you can’t do power damage. You don’t ignore skills just because they could be more effective with a different build – this is a hybrid, after all. While power will cause roughly 250% of the power-based damage thanks to advantages in precision & ferocity, a hybrid will cause over 500% the condi-based damage.

would you use arcane power in there? potential 20 stacks of burn

ZeftheWicked.3076:

IF scourge:

1. has strong condi dps (30k+)
2. does work with shroud traits (transfusion, heal on shroud enter/leave)
3. doesn’t have huge life force burn issues

Then he can replace the druid. Druid buffs replaced with high personal damage. Not a bad trade off given druid himself has abysmal damage, so if ppl around him do die, the dps plummets. While scourge can keep the ball rolling, being one of main dps sources himself.

If above is not the case, he better have something kitten alluring and unique for his group.

not even close mate, druid damage bonus is too good, anet prob expects scourge to be played as a supp who deals decent damage, I see some new stats that complement this. However like I said unless they nerf druid, scourge has no chance.

it’s meh in support, offensive utility and damage, so unlikely it’ll become meta. Maybe in some niche encounters.

but isn’t scourge even less mobile than reaper? I don’t see it providing any stab either.

Ravezaar.4951:

11-13th August is just PvE the Demo Instance that we can play thro, 18-20th is when we can try the Elite Spez

oh I didn’t know that, link? And kitten I’m going on holiday on the 18th, coming back for a new term which starts on 22nd, my luck is killing me…

rip crangers though, they can’t even reach 100%duration with full vipers.

new elite spec was described to be a condi based one as well as a support one, and given the latest nerfs to condi food viper stat is more important than ever,

Ravezaar.4951:

Iam not so sure we will loose alot of defence with barriers from shroud. Also I like to point out that on the Necro forums today there is alot of talk about the barrier mechanic and our loss of shroud and our defence, but dont forget there is a ton of dps displayed in both the tooltips and the traits.

Also I want to add that the barrier mechanic (un tested ofc) is intresting to me due to the fact that now for the first time we can use our F-skills and our utility skills without going in-n-out of shroud.

And yea maybe u right its not gonna be vaible for PvP, we have to wait and see. On the other hand I see Thieves saying same thing about Deadeye not gonna replace the movement and decap-role of the Daredevil so we not the only class with those issues.

I for one cant wait for the 18th to test Barrier mechanic and traits, hopefully we will see the revamped other traitlines then aswell.

11th to 13th, I believe.

It’s the necro curse, forever destined to be “meh”, but I’ll definitely try it out.