so does dhuumfire work with this new elite?
I mean I don’t really see what the fuss is all about with the barrier stuff, seems kinds meh, but necro has always been meh.
Will I get to raid in this? I don’t see big damage numbers and I don’t see group buffs (to damage) that people want.
Even if future raid bosses are full of boons, that woo the help with the existing bosses.
Also, I am disappointed that I will have to buy some sort of 20 button mouse in order to play this specialization.
maybe, the build can do a lot of torment and a fair bit of burn damage, esp with the trait that increases torment damage by 33%, however condi food/utility is getting a heavy nerf so every condi class will suffer.
So u need condi dmg, duration, vit and healingpower? i think that statcombo does not exist.
If you drop the duration, your answer is Shaman’s gear. Duration can be gained elsewhere like runes, sigils and food.
idk about that, food/utility that gave condi duration is about to get hammered to the ground…
Just was stuck at last boss with it seemingly bugged every attempt, Ark would be doing 2-3 phases at the same time. Don’t know if this is a big due to slow/fast dps pushing phases.
Example:
Orb phase with towers, then anomaly would spawn during forcing us to break Ark and also kill anomaly, after that the burn phase wouldn’t even happen and it would go back to him attacking with orbs everywhere still. Was all going off at once.
this can happen if your dps is not optimal I believe, had the orbs with bomb and green once.
They basically killed deathly chill so RIP condi reaper.
I’ve done this but I still get 5 stacks of burn, is that intended?
That is intended, however currently it does not scale. The proper way to deal with it is a condi cleanse, resistance, or healing. We will be adding better scaling soon.
Why did you intend to damage players when they dodge the attack? That’s really unfair. When I dodge I expect to be protected from damage.
exactly my thought, I thought I wasn’t dodging properly but then after a while it dawned on me that you can’t avoid it, seems kinda kittenty..
Also finally beat the last boss, albeit I don’t feel that good about it since the tiles started when the boss was 5% hp and the rewards were kinda meh (for the time put in) so I probably won’t be doing it again xD
seems impossible to do the last boss on cm with a pug group, need 5 players with good communication as there was like 3-4 mechanics going on at the same time in some instances.
It’s pretty much the same as nightmare but you get that new currency which you need for the cosmic infusion box as well a rare chance to get the actual infusion box.
Watch the circles under your feet to see the timing, and just dodge in to the boss. You will avoid all damage.
I’ve done this but I still get 5 stacks of burn, is that intended?
it’s way too chaotic imo, they just couldn’t hold back with the number of ground attacks and other mechanics covering the whole arena.
Solar Blossoms appear at 80%, 50% and 25%. Hitting these values makes Arkk invulnerable until after they have been dealt with.
However, slow DPS can have them appear before that, for whatever reason. During a try yesterday we had them appear at 84% due to very bad DPS and had to deal with them while Arkk attacks continued. Another set of Solar Blossoms then appeared at 80% yet they didn’t do anything.
Kudos to the people who already defeated him (Especially those with the secret title!) but the fight just seems incredible buggy atm.
ah 50 and 25 eh, I thought it was like 80 then 40, odd intervals…
I think the number of mechanics going on at the same time in CM may be a little too much, but I haven’t had much time on the last boss.
exactly this, esp with the new expansion coming that will prob shake the meta. I dn’t want to see my condi infusions (was very expensive and time consuming to get for me) go to waste.
Option to swap fractal stat infusions? They are pretty costly to get a full set and it would be nice to swap them to different versions if need be.
new epidemic can also be body-blocked, rip.
And evaded/invuln’d.
yes but that’s more on the pvp side
new epidemic can also be body-blocked, rip.
just pocket-sand.
This is a great change, though next time it would be better to just take the skill out completely.
I assume you mean tier 1 fractals, well this is basically easy for anyone, there are some mechanics that you have to watch out for, but once you have them done it’s very easy. Tier 2 is much the same, just remember the mechanics from tier 1 and yh that’s it…
Tier 3 can be tricky at first with all the instabilities and the addition of a few new mechanics but once again it’s pretty easy if you can time your dodges well. Tier 4 is “you can’t play whilst slouching on you chair” level, a few new mechanics here and there but aside from that the bosses can hit hard and everything basically lasts longer.
I’m just glad that they didn’t nerf the trait itself, since anet is pretty “wild” when it comes to balance…
the build you linked in fine, though I’d take flesh golem for the CC, the extra bit of dmg from lich form isn’t worth it imo.
As for this death magic talk, it’s an okay build but I’d just go for soul reaping over it, since if you somehow kitten up the timing of ur dodge on the final 100cm boss you can shroud to mitigate most of the damage to your HP, but honestly I can only imagine something like this would happen if you are distracted ressing someone.
should I be getting ascended magi trinkets or exotic magi’s (with platinum doubloons)?
My healer runs a warhorn, but I hear many still run staff/staff builds.
And no, I’d say a viper axe in a healer build is just a waste. Not sure it’s going to do anywhere near enough dps to justify using in either main or offhand. Maybe someone can make the case for offhand axe in terms of utility (breakbar/reposition on #4 and reflect on #5), but I can’t think of any reason why I’d ever bring an axe on my healer.
interesting, well I was just following a build I saw on qt, I thought the standard was something like staff and sword/axe, but I’ll be playing condi ranger first anyway.
Warhorn isn’t particularly important for a healing druid (It certainly doesn’t need to be ascended). It’s main function is providing long duration regen through the skill Call of the Wild together with Windborne notes.
thnx for the explanation, I basically had 2 weapon boxes which I used to get sb and torch, so I guess I’ll use an exotic wh so that I can avoid having to get huntsman to 500 (for now anyway…), on a separate note do you think I can get away with using a viper’s axe in a healer druid build?
3 stacks of bleed every time you apply a chill is too much, you need at least a 100 second ICD on that, get on it devs.
Only place a necro wouldn’t be taken (well, it’s more like “not preferred”) is in a raid, everywhere else you are fine, necro does very well in fractals btw.
Though if you want a class for all pve content then ranger is the one for you, either as a healer or a condi class.
The problem is that you’re making the mistake of using a data point right before the update that gave the leather farm. You’re essentially cherry picking the low point while completely ignoring exactly why it was low in the first place despite me telling you numerous times. It’s no different than the price of oranges going up because of a supply scare, going back down where nothing happened, and then you using the price difference to argue that orange prices were out of line because they were dropping.
OMG WTF are you even talking about. Leather prices fell because of the announcement of the leather farm area which nobody knew what it was going to be. They speculated it would be good for players and lower prices so they fell. I am taking prices from THE DAY BEFORE THE PATCH WAS ANNOUNCED.
Here’s me: Fact: the patch notes came out on 1/27, I am taking prices from the day before.
Here’s you: Making up some player numbers and making up what is going on with no facts whatsoever.You want an apples and oranges argument? Here’s my analogy using what you’re doing. The news comes out on 1/27 that a GMO orange is going to hit the market and yields are going to be huge. People start selling orange futures because they think prices will go down. You say “I haven’t taken any measurements, and I have no proof whatsoever, but people might be eating less oranges maybe”. Orange prices go down but it turns out the GMO orange doesn’t increase yields and causes cancer. Prices for oranges go back up. I am measuring prices from 1/26 when nobody realized the GMO orange existed. You are saying that’s not valid because of your super scientific opinion that “maybe people were like, eating less oranges or something”.
you are putting in way too much effort for that guy lol, there will always be those who say “hurr durr I get all the leather I need after x hours of farming every day”.
Hello, I was going to make a range in the future for healing and condi damage. I looked at the builds and weapons I needed for both, I found that you needed sb and axe/torch for the condi build and for the healer build you needed sword/axe and a staff, but I heard some people saying warhorn is also good for this build, is it okay to just get an exotic warhorn? Or is wh an integral part of the healer druid build?
inb4 reaper shroud gets forgotten when sand shroud comes out (much like DS)
You may have problems for raids, but everywhere else you are good to go, especially fractals.
no, dagger deals more dmg than axe. of course on power necro you should never leave GS but if you have to, dagger has immobilize (more breakbar dmg), corrupts 2 boons and not 1, has a 600 range heal if you need it. and the autoattack is almost on par with gs auto, while axe falls behind a lot and doesn’t cleave.
I heard dagger has some good LF regen too
Pressing V once or twice ain’t that difficult either… this was just a bug fix.
thank god the devs don’t look at these posts, some of the suggestions here are just terrible.
it was only thanks to the recent buff to deathly chill that helped necro achieve average DPS, you want to put an ICD on that? The frost gun is pretty good, but you can’t use it in any places that matter (pvp/wvw/fractals/raids/dungeons), but Anet with their blind balancing will destroy the trait and put necro’s back in the trash can once again.
(I’ve heard the trait causing problems in WvW, just restrict it to 1 stack of bleed like it is in pvp)
Internal cool down on the trait I believe, only ones that don’t have ICD with chill are deathly chill and the one that applies vulnerability when you apply chill.
Howdy!
I created a Necro at launch, and she’s been my mule until about a month ago, when I finally got my thumb out of my butt and started focusing more on this game.
I’ve played a Mesmer since launch, and running through the open world as a Minionmancer reaper with full Zerker gear has been absolutely phenomenal. I love this class, and the Reaper has been upgraded from bank mule to co-main.
I’ve recently thrown myself into the gear grind, and I’ve learned the hard way that though they’re both light armour classes with a few overlapping weapons, I’m going to need to craft vastly different ascended gear sets for my Reaper and my Chronomancer.
I’m focusing on my Chronomancer for light armour right now, and I estimate that it’ll take a month or two before I can start decking out my Reaper in Viper’s armour. I’ve noted that HoT stat exotics seem ridiculously expensive, compared to their core-game counterparts. I’m not willing to shell out the time and effort for an exotic Viper’s set that I’m going to replace in the near future anyways.
So I guess my questions are as follows:
1) If I have a long-term goal to gear up my Reaper in Vipers ascended, is there a cheaper, exotic alternative I can use during the transition? Would Rampagers work, for instance?
2) Can I be a Zerker reaper in fractals until further notice? How far would I be able to go as a Minionmancer? (I have ascended zerker trinkets with AR, so that won’t be an issue).
3) Is there any room for the Greatsword in a fractal vipers build?
4) Am I right to assume that the crafting priority ought to go somewhere along the lines of Dagger, Scepter, Warhorn, trinkets, legs, chest > the rest?
5) I’m a rather casual player. I don’t intend to do much raiding, and I’d rather have gear cover as much condition duration as possible, and not have expensive food with me at all times. With this in mind, is it better to go full Viper or should I be looking at crafting some Sinister things as well?
I’d be grateful for any input you may have!
- Morgan Fay, Saladmancer.
1) Yes, use rampagers would work, sinister is better (but I think it is much more expensive than rampagers), carrion is also okay but it doesn’t offer precision, except you get vitality.
2)zerker is fine, are you talking about just minions and death magic trait? T1 anything works, t2 is also fine, you may have some trouble in t3 and t4 is just nop
3) current meta build (and the one I use) is scepter/dagger and greatsword
4)get scepter first, however you don’t need to craft it as you can get one for free via the current events (the caladbolg quest), hence you don’t even need to get artificing to 500. I got an exotic viper’s dagger for free from the HoT quest chain, so I decided to craft GS next and lastly I got my dagger. You may find yourself spending more time in the scepter/dagger set, since ranged is just easier to play casually. As for the armor, it’s up to you. I just decided to get the cheapest parts first to have quick access to infusion slots, and I got lucky from fractal dailies when I ended up getting the chest piece for free, the rest I crafted from the cheapest to most expensive.
5) No need for sinister, especially if you don’t plan on using foods (the previous meta build used a few sinister trinkets, but the current one uses everything vipers), as for the runes and sigils, you want krait runes to max out bleeding and malice/geo on weapons, the meta build uses berserkers (thorns if you raid) runes, however this gives no condi duration so you will have to use expensive food every time.
there is a prefix which gives toughness/condi dmg/expertise/vitality, if that is what you want.
I would love the expertise but i don’t want toughness as that will just get too much attention from mobs.
Attention? Pfffff play like a man :P
(but as someone above said, toughness is only relevant for raids, gl getting a necro into a raid lol)
most of the time I just see “viper necro” in t4 pugs, and I get asked at times when I join if I’m condi build or not, so power isn’t too welcome in t4s, it has even lower DPS than condi and condi DPS is average/below average at best…
Also yes let’s nerf the last place where necro is welcome ^^
(then the class can get reworked)
The racial elite is not bound by stupid slow design, it’s only bound by the racial design.
Anet have designed necromancer’s skill like an old horror film : The slow vilain that you can’t shake off. The sylvari skill is superior because it’s not bound by this design, instead it gain from the everlasting theme of plants.
There is a few people, me included, that want to get rid of lich form as well as plague form. It would be easy to make skills that are way better than those while keeping in mind the necromancer’s thematic and the underlying thematic of those skills. Just, we would gain to get rid of those unpracticable transformation skills that lock us out of almost everything yet grant us nothing good.
agreed, plague form is just utter trash, I only ever put it on my skill bar in the aquatic fractal (no longer the case though, cttb is what i use now). Lich form is only ever used for the number 4, which is worse than a racial elite skill…
Whilst they may be working to improve it, the minimal impact these ~4 month balance patches make leads me to believe that a complete overhaul will take years .
I am a little salty by the fact that I can’t access take root, but who actually plays a necro for their dps, so instead I’m making a ranger (syvalri ofc).
why is the syvalri elite skill better than lich form?…
Because the lich form is slow and clumsy while the sylvari elite skill is a lasting effect that does not impair your ability to do your job.
and it’s alright for the racial elite to be better?
(not being serious ofc, wondering why its like this…)
why is the syvalri elite skill better than lich form?…
“toss it away” bruh…
the majority are like that unfortunately, however as a necro I have been managing to find groups without those restrictions for the past few weeks, you just have to keep your eye on the LFG tab (at rare times you get dumb kittens who leave the group saying “lol necro” after I join), alternatively make your gown group (this works most of the time).
there is a prefix which gives toughness/condi dmg/expertise/vitality, if that is what you want.
the “armour” concept may become reality next expac based on the leaks
just making grizzlemouth and converting it is cheaper (in terms of time), it costs a few more gold, but you save a lot more time since fulgurite isn’t required.
Ofc people have different circumstances like you pointed out.
yh, you would think the ascended insig/inscription is required, but nop.