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i can confirm this. tested so far on 8 character and got daily log in reward on all of those.
This is viable thing to do. wondered same thing back in times. same goes for necro plague stomp, mesmer portal stomp, thief steal stomp and many other skills. actually most skills that don’t have a cast time can be used while stomping i think. some skills are safer than others and work better against certain classes.
Back in times I too had my troubles on getting proof this sort of skill use isn’t exploiting but it sure is viable even it may look like unintended mechanics at first glance.
So I have few necro builds with different look for each. My sylvari necro is few days old and has no set yet but i have been planning set with upcoming carapace pants but until those come CoF pants gonna work just fine. I still need some transmutation charges for the look so got screenshots from wardrobe preview.
In human necro pic left one is my main set that was meant to be elegant mix and is currently having pretty autumn like colors(were darker before), second is pretty obviously fire demon look, third more traditional necro look, blue is my healer look that i almost never use, second from right was meant to be something like desert rider and last is kinda cyberpunk raider mix.
Sylvari is mainly done for the orrian kinda look.
Ok… wanted to wait for more answers and discussion before saying more. So technically it seems that necro is a bit less usefull than other classes. Ofc every class can perform fine and even outrageous when played well but as the ppl here have said necro lacks support and cleave and its damage is still about same as on others i would still say its not in balance. Its not that big issue than bug groups think but its still “lesser” choise than the other classes. I agree that problem with ranger and engi is mostly because of the players skill lvl and it seems those classes are just harder to master than others.
To the guy(s) that think im troll because “shady” sentence forming and so on… no im not. My english isn’t as fluent as on others or atleast im not good at writing things as ppl happen to do. Also i admit it was mistake to write this just after one another “neco hate session” i had in game. But i dont take my words back atleast in case of necro.
I also ran arah with my necro yesterday and it performed fine enough but i still see warrior as superrior compared to necro because of the utility it has compared to necros about 0 support. with good setup i can trait my necor so it can give protection or heal a bit and still keep the dps in about same as highest possible necro build i have found but guardians do this so much better than necro and they still can keep the damage about in same lvl. Also finding the group took a lot longer than with warrior because ppl avoid necromancer. we didnt get the best possible group as i didnt expect from lfg but atleast it wasnt really my necro that was the problem because we had enough recflect and banners already about any class can fill the place but ofc some support would have been nice. Im not making new absolute opinions with this arah run tho. Just added this here to maby somehow point out that i can somewhat handle my class and would be sad if i wouldnt after 1600h playing it.
Atleast some ppl agree with me in some lvl that necro is a bit more underpowered compared to other classes. Even i sence highly negative attitude towards my post i will now thank you because these posts have made me mad against warrior elitism and i actually updated my necros build and will start using it again instead of warrior even that may it cause me to face more necro hate moments and in worst case totally kill my interst towards this game as it happended with LoL cos of toxic and ignorant community :/
Maby you live in future cos this problem clearly still exist….
Ok i made mistake in elementalist case but thiefs are really wanted only for speedruns. Only things they actually have is stealth that is good and single tartget dps. Boons on coe golem and hotw endboss are boons that they get back about immediately after removing them. to actually remove them you need to dps soem other thing instead of the boss so romoving them from boss is useles. So necro, ranger and engi still remains weaker and more unwanted choises than othewers.
There is only a minor risk in zerk bursting and you should know that if you have doen dungeons before. if you run full pvt team it will take eternity to kill bosses and they still may hit you hard. so tecnically you may get 3 chotted by boss if you are zerker but these classes that are superrior have either blocks or evades to awoid that damage easily. Necro for example has its death shroud idd but it still lacks that aoe damage as zerker. and condition damage is pretty much useles if rest of the team kills mobs before you can apply even 5 stacks of bleeding. Tankier or more supportive builds are a bit more reliable for staying alive idd but zerkers mostly dont have any problem either. If your team has even one warrior to run battle standard the downed are up in no time or endure pain so you can safely resurrect that fallen friend.
And yeah im pretty much playing with friends or ppl that accepts most classes but that means i get less fast and mosltu less smooth runs. So when i need to grind the gold i still have to be on my warrior to get stuff fast.
And ofc ppl arent as good as others and somehow engineers, rangers and necros are moslty those noobs that cant control the class for some reason but still would you take good necro over good warrior in your team in CoF or TA for example. I would say about 80% of ppl will pick the war….
I put this here because i don’t see this issue as class balance issue but rather issue about that how dungeons are build.
So pretty much everyone knows that rangers, thiefs, necromancers and engineers are unwanted for dungeons. Same goes for elementalists sometimes. Guardian is excellent support and then group needs just dps so 4 warriors or memer that povides a bit support with time warp, reflect, stealth and portal tricks.
Necromancer cant provide any kind of support that full dps team wants and same goes for thiefs and ragers and they also lack dps compared to guards and wars. if not as single target then atleast aoe damage is lesser. stacking tactic favor small aoe and high dps and all survivability you need is maby guardians buffs/heals but mostly just dps is enough and survivability is just dead weight.
Necromancers would be more useful if any kind of mob would have boons to remove for example but almost none has nothihing or then those are unremovable or obtained back so fast it doesn’t matter. Rangers favor range and they arent that useful in close combat and cos everything is stackable range isnt needed and melee does job faster. thiefs lack needed aoe and engineers have pretty much everything with them so they cant reach the same dps output as other classes.
Classes are still somewhat in balance because in pvp they are prety much all welcome as long as certain roles are found and even roles doesnt matter allways. pvp still supports teams that have class variety instead of pve.
In my opinion this should be dealt with somehow. I like my necromancer and probably would want to try other classes more too but now i have to play warrior all the time in dungeons if i want smooth runs that are also fast. “great risk and great prize”-thing is bullkitten because there really is no risk in zerk bursting everything. Its even faster mostly to fail once with zerker team and succeed in second try than start with teams that vary builds and classes.
Also at this point some Sherlock starts this “gw has no roles so kitten”-bullkitten. Having no roles doesn’t mean all the gears except one and most of the classes need to be useless in pve that is still biggest part of the game. In wvw we have this issue too but only class that isn’t really wanted is ranger…
This problem may not be seen in low lvl groups or groups that have players that have jsut reached their first 80lvl because these players have no possibility to have wanted classes and they are pretty much openminded for other classes because they dont know the stacking strategies or capabilities of each class but in experienced groups its real issue. For example friend just told me this after fractal lvl 39 “we take your necro because you have no other”. Thing is that i want to play as necro and as i saw what happened to normal dungeons when i tried warrior… nothing else than warrior since that…I want to keep fractals clear form that bullkitten. In some fractals i see necro sblind usefull too but im pretty sure those are also possible to do with just dps.
I also know that atleast necros dps capability towards single enemy has been proven to be about same as warriors (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Toyhtj0HPU8). Thanks for this goes to Nemesis for his awesome work. but thing is that dps necromancer still lacks aoe compared to “dungeon viable classes”. I think same problem goes for thiefs and rangers too. cant say much about engineers.
Hope this was all i had to say :/ i dont have much ideas to overcome the problem but thats not really my job anyway… I want to play this game and the class i want but now to do so i have to go to pvp or wvw to play them and feel useful and that is shame because i still kinda like dungeons.
Transformation skills like tornado, plague and lich form can be used as stomping or ressing players from downed state. This isn’t possible while on the form and if activating skill while stomping or ressing it cancels what you are doing but if activating skill at same time with stomp or res you start ressing or stomping while on transformed form. This same exploit can be used with death shroud.
I don’t know where this post should be put if anywhere so i just write it like this was account issue. So it seems that my account is invisible to ArenaNet. I have reported some bugs, tried to find and ask answers from forums and i have sent email straight to them but i wont get answer or solution ever even if i have formed my message in form of an question. Still I see other ppl getting free gems cos they didn’t like some outfits they bought and such.
So am I invisible to support or what. This game has some serious exploitable issues and balance problems and because i’m not cheater I will not get along with those issues. I may soon quit playing this game if its support keeps ignoring either me or these issues and thats shame because i really like the atmosphere, cloth desingn and architecture in this game. I also have some friends that i keep contact only on guild wars. But i may have to leave all that behind just because the issues makes game too unbalanced for me to play and have fun at same time.
So ArenaNet i hope you will get your priorities sorted or you have one less customer.
yeah i see the point in that most of these are not too useful and so on. but is this ur own opinion again or can i get some proof that these aren’t bugs. some link to forum post were anet answers or something. Why is ds stomp and transformations a bug if mistform isn’t. Also this whole thing with any of these looks kitten and unlogical. If these have been bugs at start and later approved why haven’t anet said anything…. Just being long in the game doesn’t remove the bug status until anet makes its move. Also some ppl call these “hidden tecniques”. most kitten name for bug in my opinion
Again it seems to be ignored now 4th or 5th time already in my case. So here is the list of skills that can be bugged by pressing f on downed player at right time. some of these activate while pressing same time, some less than half second after and some just before transformation. These bugs give user unwanted advantage (immunity to damage, extra health to stomp with or distance to stomp) and almost everyone is using them.
Plague form
Lich form
Death shroud
Necrotic traversal(fleshwurm active)
Spectral walk
Blink
Shadow step
Portal
Phase retreat
Lightning Flash
Tornado
At wiki there is mistform stomp and elixir s skills that are said to be viable methods but there is nothing on these skills i just listed. So it would be good if these would be fixed or at least officially said not to be bug exploits. Forums have discussions about these skills too but its mainly ppl fighting over their own opinion and actual answer has never been released. so please take some actions at some point….
actually these skills can stomp player if activated stomp right time. sorry if i explained myself badly
Ok i found out that mistform or elixir s stompping isnt bug. Atleast if i can trust wiki but the real issue is that there are many and i mean loads of skills that can be used on stompping and works or looks like a bug. So i need aswer for the following skills and i mean answer. all i get is just fight over the skills about that which one is better or so on…. I want to know is it bug exploiting or not. If any anet guy reads this i hope this isnt skipped again but answered really. so Here comes the list:
Plague form
Lich form
Death shroud
Necrotic traversal(fleshwurm active)
Spectral walk
Blink
Shadowstep
Portal
Mesmers staff skill 2(dont remember the name, blink like)
Lighning Flash
Tornado(transform)
Im pretty sure there are even more skills that can do this kind of stomp and it clearly looks like a bug but i remembered jsut these. I really hope some anet guy sees this this time. my all other attempts has been just ignored and im getting a bit kittened. It would be good if this would be either fixed or freaking allowed… silence isnt helpping. dont want to exploit bugs and get banned for things that sbeen lying around since forever and seem to be very popular in pvp.
I asked from support, I tried to read the forums, I discussed with players,… All i get is answers that just defends each ppl own opinion on things or just dodge the question with some bull****. So I want real answer now is the stomping with mist form, shadow step, plague, deathshroud, litchform and so on a bug? Pls don’t start discussion about which of these are best or why should only one of these be removed. I want real answer or action to fix these. This post also work as bug report if somehow Anet doesn’t know of this yet even i have reported it several times.
So skills i just listed can be used to finish ppl in downed state by pressing f and the skill at same time. none cant do it without pressing these buttons at same time. Also in transformation skills none can stomp ppl normally, only when activating this bug. Also skills inscription does’t say this is possible. I understand distortion, berserker stance, endure pain and most of he stability skill stomps because those can be used while stomping, not only when activating these same time.
These skills give ppl unnecessary and unwanted benefit and i think its serious bug that should be taken care of. there is just no way you cant see it as bug. There is no such a thing as “hidden tecnique” thats most kitten name ever given to bug in my opinion. “hidden tecnique” is something like distortion stomp because you skill is meant to be like that. Its nonanimation skill that doesn’t interrupt anything you are doing but any transformation skill or teleport skill isn’t that kind skill. This bug has been here long i think but it really got my attention when i started to play pvp more. Still if bug has been long in the game it doens’t say its now “legal” to use. I want real answer from someone who is responsible from these things before i change my mind. If im not getting real answers i may stop playing this game and its really a shame because i like it, but as big problem in pvp as this is just too much. nd no im not just one raging kid who got annoyed on one stomp that i cant do. pvp just feels like playing against cheaters because i refuse to use this as i dont want get banned.
I hope i didn’t miss anything important
Im pleased to hear my paint skill are so great that it can be seen as photoshopping
I decided to make new look for twilight after seeing it on 90% of ppl in this game. seriously.. its popularity has to get down Not sure if this does the trick. And shame on you all. Why it had to be me who drew this idea first(or then it have been well hidden from me)
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz45/gebabje/nimetoumln_zps9e72597e.png
hope that link works :’/