Guild Wars 2

now is even worst

plz fix that it is getting boring to login every 10 seconds :p

right now i can t stay connected for more than few seconds then the game keep telling me that he is unable to gain access to the log-in server, my internet works fine so i was guessing if everything is fine for Anet too ?

no worries, they will nerf all the old builds till the deadeye will be the best possible choice. xD

/sarcasm (or not?)

Svarty.8019:

Kirnale.5914:

Guess they didn’t wanted us to buy the new xpac. We need a BUFF rather than a nerf. But then again, I expected nothing from Anet.

No! No! You HAVE to play scourge because old classes are weak (now)!

That is what kittenes me off the most about Anet. They always force ppl to buy things instead of just motivate them. We are forced to buy the new expansion beacouse after this huge nerf all the old builds will suck compared to the new Scourge.

Be very proud Anet, gg.

Mea.5491:

Yup, I’m quitting my Power Reaper main. The profession I used to love so much now feels awkward and annoying to play. If I can’t find a new main, I will search for a new MMO.

and this is also my problem. i have spent over 3000 hours on my necro, and every kittenign time i got some kind of nerf. I can run every single necro build on the game on every game mode but still get nerf on each of them.

I usually istant pre-order new expansion but this time it will be very hard, haven t ordered yet and i will consider what to do only the last days beafore the release. But if i do not see the Scourge viable this weeked i m done with this game since i do not find fun any other classes.

RIP gw2

Blastbase.1936:

Necro is so bad now that it makes the Bear bow look good lmao
Balance team don’t really care about us, they had to nerf so they can make the new elite spec look good.

R.I.P. to the never wanted class

+ 1.000.000

that is the one and only reason about this patch necromancer changes

Pyroen.2086:

Anet you need to consider balancing the game again before the expac. scourge at this point is just better at all roles than reaper.
1. Scourge has more health than reaper and they can heal themselves more.
– Since scourge is not in a shroud they can heal from transfusion. and assuming a scourge can keep up barrier on itself it has more health too.

2. Scourge has more ways to survive.
– they have a portal. reaper on the other hand is a sitting duck even with their leap.

3. Scourge has more dps potential.
– with scourge getting burning on torment and the sheer amount of torment on scourge it certainly seems like it will do more condi dps than reaper. reaper wasn’t even suppose to do condi.

4. Scourge can actually help teammates.
– reaper is selfish and doesn’t do as much as scourge in terms of support.

Anet I love your game and your classes but you failed to make reaper into a power spec and now scourge is just an upgrade. please consider making more suitable changes.

at the end of the day idk if scourge will be better.

That is the point. Do not forget that the only Anet goal is to make money. So they are going to destroy each pre Path of Fire build in order to force ppl to buy the expansion to keep up.

Lordrosicky.5813:

They nerfed the following traits by up to 50% indirectly:

Repears might
Rending shroud
Signets of suffering
Armored shroud
Shrouded removal
Deadly Strength
Unholy Sanctuary
Unholy Martyr
Unyielding blast
Death perception
Dhuumfire
Relentless Pursuit
Blighters boon

All these traits are now worse. Most went from semi-bad to completely useless. Unholy martyr, unholy santuary, shrouded removal, etc.. these were only semi useful with vital persistence so now they are utterly worthless probably in all game modes.

So we got 14 traits nerfed, many into complete worthlessness.

Reposting this here in case my pvp post is removed

To understand such things actually require some brain, which i am 100% sure noone working on the necromancer has.

This is basically a whole new class, and a very kittenty one. If i had read such traits at the release of the game i m sure i would have not rolled a necro at all.

I d make it very quick, without DS necro is just no more viable. There is absolutely no way you can stay alive, due the complete lack of evade any decent glass cannon is going to ista kill necromancers in a few istants. This also true for any high dmg pve boss.

Even my 8 years old little brother could understand that, so my guess is easy, there is any decent dev working on Anet or you guys just all monkeys clicking random keys to do something ?

You still got time to fix that kitten go on and change it coz the hype for the new Scourge is kinda 0.

Good point, i m still waiting an answer from a post i created a couple weeks ago.

I am really courious beacouse i fail to see any logic about the actual links :\

most sad part is that there is someone who got payed to work out such link system…

Is it possible to get a clarification about what exactly is considered a “matchup thread” ?

Beacouse to be honest i see that many threads are being closed as matchup threads while they are not. Also i feel like this “matchup thread” thing is used to close unconfortable discussions.

Thank you.

good point my friend. Let s see if this time we can get an official answer.

Svarty.8019:

ilmau.9781:

Well, i really do not understand, so i am here asking and i hope some Anet guy will be so kind to give us an answer, there is any logical behind the current links?

How is possible that SFR got unlinked while FSP and Piken got linked?

I really got the feeling you guys link servers on purpose beacouse that is a nice way to force ppl to transfer rather than try to figure out a way to balance the ladder and bring fun (and bit of competition) back to WvW.

Think about it, really, beacouse gems are nice but ppl are getting bored.

I quoted the Anet explanation here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/I-don-t-understand-the-EU-links/first#post6510299

ok i have read your answer and i understand that they are going to link servers in order to try to balance every single matchup, and in their imaginary world this could be a nice solution, but reality is little different. In fact to balance tier 1 servers (for example) and to balance i mean to try to create a matchup with 3 factions of more or less the same side, they are just sacrifying all the rest. Going this way they are completely cutting off any chance for low tier servers to go up so there is no motivation and no goal to pursue, the only goal actually left in WvW is to farm achievements. And for that there is already EOTM… so, i am asking again to Anet, what is the logic behind this kind of decisions?

Svarty.8019:

arnitheking.8427:

I don’t understand why fsp and piken square got a link and seafarer’s rest and deso didn’t?
Both piken and fsp are strong enough as is and were t1 (piken admittedly with link, but fsp without link). I know I don’t have access to wvw data or anything, maybe sfr/deso showed higher activity in the last weeks? but it seems like the links make very little sense.

Here is why:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/World-Linking-8-26-2016/page/4

Our goal with World Linking is good matches. This doesn’t necessarily mean that worlds in tier 4 are intended to be competitive with worlds in tier 1, but ideally every world in tier 4 should be competitive with the other worlds in tier 4 and likewise every world in tier 1 should be competitive with the other worlds in tier 1.

While i do understand the idea behind this choice i still have MANY doubs about. For example, i do not think that SFR alone vs Aurora Glade & Fissure of Woe & Ruins of Surmia vs Ring of Fire & Underworld & Gunnar’s Hold can be considered “balanced”, just check the score and let me know..

Sianon.3586:

In all honesty the linking is never going to work when people can transfer every time the wind changes direction. How are they meant to know the wvw population when it changes every 5 minutes by people moving server?

that is exactly THE PLAN.

anyway, i am still waiting an answer from Anet, what is the logic behind the current links? I really do want understand.

Thea Cherry.6327:

Nobody understands the linkins, cause they don’t make any sense.

ANet what are you doing? What is wrong with you? Can we help you? O.o

+1

Thea Cherry.6327:

The Linkings are a joke. Hahahah, jokes on you… well… on us. x.x

ANets Linking System does not make any sense at all, they have lost every conncection to the EU servers.

yeah, more or less that is also my impression

Well, i really do not understand, so i am here asking and i hope some Anet guy will be so kind to give us an answer, there is any logical behind the current links?

How is possible that SFR got unlinked while FSP and Piken got linked?

I really got the feeling you guys link servers on purpose beacouse that is a nice way to force ppl to transfer rather than try to figure out a way to balance the ladder and bring fun (and bit of competition) back to WvW.

Think about it, really, beacouse gems are nice but ppl are getting bored.

My vote goes for Solution 2: Guild Focused Proposal

Beacouse it also provide more reason to be in a guild, wvw is slowly going down in numbers so gather players together is an effective way to slow down the process.

Rather server names mean nothing those days, so call them green/blue/red or another name is the same. Starting with the first time servers got linked on there is no real reason to have a ladder a server name or even tournaments, it is just a matter to have ppl to play with and againist…

trixantea.1230:

Deso, the most successeful PuG server

lol, you won’t achieve 1/10 of what SFR did not even playing 10 years

you and any other server just had a chance when the core players of SFR got bored and went inactive, that was about 1 year ago

Bump! SFR still looking!
feel free to contact us for any question

Heya there, we are still looking for commanders, guilds and players to fill our ranks!

Weekly Bump!!!
SFR Still Looking!!!
Comon, don’t be shy, join us

only fews contacted us during this week, we need way more!! don’t be shy and do not slack gogo we want to rebuild as fast as possible

this week special request is for Commanders, we really need a couple of very active commanders, feel free to contact me in game or register directly to our website, thank You !

yes i was referring to this thread, since last official news are from 18 may i was wondering if we can get some fresh news, that s all

Any news about the score system changes and night cap influx reduction?

I’m sure that something about changing the score system and reduce the influx of the night cap has been already discussed by the Devs, it would be nice to know when you guys plan to implement that… any infos you can share about?

thanks a lot

:)

1. Do you consider that WvW is a competitive game mode?

No, it is not. A game can be considered competitive only if it is a 1vs1, a 3way matchup can not be considered competitive beacouse results are set most of the time by facts not related to your merits nor your faults . Also WvW is totally unbalanced speaking about population, who have more players and play more just win.

2. Do you wish that WvW was a competitive game mode?

Yes, that would be awesome.

3. Do you think that WvW can be a competitive game mode?

It is possible if it is played 1vs1 and if the score system totally changes. PPT can not be considered a valid skill parameter, due the reasons listed above at point 1. A competitive score system can be achieved only if there are only two participants (servers in Gw2 case), only if those participants have almost the same amount of players (100 vs 99 won’t change much, 20 vs 5 changes a lot) and play the same amount of time.

Bump!

Added many new infos to the main post, please read it!

Thank you!

Yo, i don t want to complain or anything i do understand Anet is doing a lot of work towards WvW, much more in the last couple of months than what i ever saw in the past 3 years so this is great really, a huge step forward, and i thank you guys for that, what i would like to ask is that if it is possible to give a lil attention to the server status and the way it adjust. We got a API verification for teamspeak and we can monitor quite easily how many players swap servers and where they are going and if we can do that i m sure Anet can do the same or even more, you surely noticed how many players changed server in the past two weeks, leaving my server (SFR) almost empty but still with a server status FULL which do not allow us to gain back the players who left.

It is possible to reduce the delay that takes the Server Status to update?

To sum up, out of prime time we are always outnumbered by about x3. during prime time we manage to do something but if we do guild raids most of their guilds are x2 of us, if we manage to get 1 blob on ebg or hb they have 2 blobs, 1 on ebg and another on some borderland. This is what is happening since 3 weeks, ofc always with a Full server stauts, which i truly doubt about.

Waiting an official answer we thank you for your time.

Well, to me it really looks like whoever is whining is just a crying baby who seek easy win due to night cap and PVD while they are playing alone. Sorry for being so rude and direct, but that s exactly how your complains looks for.

Personally, i will wait the new system to be realeased (as soon as possible i hope) and i will try it out, then i will share my feedbacks. I do not understand how ppl can comment or even complain about something they have not even tried once.

B.U.M.P. !!!!!

=)

+1 on EU Friday Reset!!!

If i can give an hint 18 UTC is to early for many guilds, it will end up being a pug blobfest, if you want to have a more balanced reset move it to 20/21 UTC

thanks to start listening to the WvW players, that s a nice start.

Soo, another week has passed and nothing has changed.

Talking about my server, SFR, we are still Outnumbered even in Prime Time while we got the same status (Full) of the servers which actually Outnumber us.

We even asked at Colin about, we got screenshot of the chat which we could post there if needed , he said “we will discuss plans for stuffs like that in WvW in the future” that sounds more like “we do not care at all”

I would like to remind you we are paying customers and we are not satisfied of the service we got. To sum up very quickly, we pay, we want attention, we want to have fun, we want working stuffs. So please do something about.

Thank you.

Jayne.9251:

Snorcha.7586:

they’ve had over 2 years to correct the problems with WvW population issues, not to mentiokittenllion suggestions, but they do NOTHING to fix it. So, most people have just moved on to a different game. It’s a shame, to me it’s GW2’s greatest asset, the developers obviously do not feel the same.

Um they created server population caps, specific to WVW, just recently too. However, it will take time to show any effect. It’s already shown some signs of working. Guess folks are too impatient.

probably i am missing the working part on that new system, since what i see are just Full servers with empty WvW maps

Tao.1234:

ilmau.9781:

we want WvW players, EOTM is not WvW sorry

In other words you want High Quality WvWers and you’re not interested in players who would like to start WvWing properly.

Looks like there was no problem to begin with.

Can we delete this topic please?

In other words EOTM standard player do not join TS, do not use a build with any kind of sense, do not know to dodge nor to use combo fields nor to do anything usefull in a team. And the worst thing ever is that they do not even care about anything listed above, since being EOTM a grind/farm map the standard EOTM player just care for personal achievements and rewards and nothing more.

If rather you are talking about players who get in touch to WvW willing to learn and cooperate with the community well, they are more than welcome. You can find this wrote clearly in each and every recruitment thread SFR has around and also on our website homepage. We even used to have a entry level community guild to train costantly new players.

SkiaPhil.4015:

ilmau.9781:

Let me repeat please:

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> no1 gives a kitten about who join a map do his daily and then leave, beacouse then you get noone to play with and server status Full, so you can t get new players who could stay on map and fight.

Do you see the problem now or still nothing?

If you want new players try to recruit them from people doing their dailies and PvE players on your server instead of trying to recruit from other wvw communities, which only moves the problem away to another server and doesn’t solve anything.
You could recruit all those EotM players aswell, rumours have it that SFR has a lot of them.

we want WvW players, EOTM is not WvW sorry

Masori.3528:

But saying you’re talking with the opposing servers and still lacking fights is a crack in your credibility…

I fail to see any logic in ur sentence tbh O_o i can t be online 24/7 to check it myself but indeed i got friends and contacts with almost any server, if they tells me that SFR is empty and they do not got anyone to fight with, i trust them.

Let me post a clear example, we even were outnumbered in two maps at reset. Ok? i never said outnumbered at 5am in the middle of the week, i said, OUTNUMBERED AT RESET!!!! But well, ANET keep say that SFR is very populated, (a mail from less than 1 hour ago) so yes, we are so populated to be considered Full. Everything is working properly, everyone has fun. Noone has been skitten.

SkiaPhil.4015:

kBoom.3748:

Well the problem is also the statements of certain former Arena-Net employees about the algorithm.
To be precise:

" It’s not looking at a short period of time"

I can’t see a problem. Looks like it’s working as intended. The algorithm tracks the active wvw accounts over a longer period of time, probably over a month. Over time the amount of players reduced slightly below the full status. That’s why it switched to very high. As soon as you saw that, you tried to transfer with your whole guild (20+ people). As soon as the first players transfered they were added to the active wvw population and the server switched back to full.

Let me repeat please:

> no1 gives a kitten about who join a map do his daily and then leave, beacouse then you get noone to play with and server status Full, so you can t get new players who could stay on map and fight.

Do you see the problem now or still nothing?

oziris.3279:

No offence thist topic sound like a another SFR Crying topic

Here we go! Seems i won another bet, i was waiting such kind of post since the very beginning, so i got the reply already ready. No worries, noone is being offended. Indeed by a shallow point of view this thread may looks like a Crying topic, but it is not, let me explain why.

I personally see videogames as they are, an hobby, a WAY TO HAVE FUN WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND RELAX AFTER WORK, and here comes the the one and the only thing that can kitten me off in a game. I see ppl in my Community DO NOT HAVE FUN ANYMORE, beacouse they have to play in empty maps 20 hours / day. I talk with servers we fight and they are bored due to lack of opponents, i hear complains everyday about the new borderland maps full of PvE content and about most of the changes Anet has done to WvW. In top of that i also feel the pain of the guilds who has been stuck middle way to transfer ended up being split on different servers being unable to play as guild. Some players has spent already almost 4,000 gems to do not get any kind of positive service. So no, this is not a Crying topic, this is a topic created to step up and defend the fun of the players in my Community as first but i guess (and hope) also from other Communties.

The new way to determinate server population is ruining a lot of ppl fun and, let me repeat again, it looks more like a way to scum gems to ppl than anything else.

Anet best luck ever is that there is not other games who offer an experience similar to the WvW one, otherwise they would already have lost the almost totality of the WvW players.

Taxidriver.2043:

funny SOS went from high to full and still got no one playing EB so they just lower the cap again.

that was more or less also my conclusion

Well, i agree with your point ofc

It is nice to spread ppl around all the servers but it is even more important to determinate who really is Full and who not. In my post i refer to the way Anet use to define the server status, and clearly it is not working at all, there servers with Full status that has empty maps 20h / day…

i may be missing something there, how exactly it could be positive?

henchmen.1856:

Stacked servers crying about being full. WvW is empty because people are still playing HoT stuff. Tough luck for the small minority of guilds that tried to bandwagon while they could.

Anet wants low pop servers to get stronger. Not for already strong servers to get stronger. Balance, do you get it? It will help wvw in the long run.

could you please define “stacked”? no beacouse what i see there is servers with Full status being outnumbered 20 hours / day in all the maps, not to talk again about guilds who got stuck middle way to transfer. Not to talk about 7 servers being Very High in prime time with queues and then turn to Full at midnight when 80% of the players log off.

This system just help them to sell more gems, that s the only usefull thing it does.

Let me sum up quickly what has been said by you (ANET) about the new system to determinate server population:

- you said the new system check who join borderlands and ebg (and not who currently is on the map) during whole day

- you said that it does not check Edge of the Mist connections

- you said it has a very long term update time to avoid that ppl could game it.

Ok, this is not working at all.

First of all, no1 gives a kitten about who join a map do his daily and then leave, beacouse then you get noone to play with and server status Full, i really fail to see any logic there. Server status update quite often, i see Full Servers turn to Very High and then to Full again in a few days so many guilds/friends got stuck middle way to transfer, so they either got to pay again to transfer or disband, this looks more like a scum than anything else. In the while borderlands and ebg are more and more empty but EOTM is full everywhere. Less than 4 hours ago, around midnight (EU time) 7 servers turned to Full status all of a sudden.. ..at midnight? for real? so, during prime time with queues on map we had 7 servers as Very High, but then when ppl log off it turns to Full. It is logical indeed.

To sum up, i won’t say that my 8 years old little brother could work out a better system, but indeed that is not to far from the reality :p

11 servers Full on EU ladder, of which 7 turned to Full status less than four hours ago.

We also got the same problem, guilds trying to gather that got stuck half way.

Anet please fix the way you use to determinate server status it is not working at all. First of all, it change very often while you said it should be a long term update and it does not work properly, i see servers (not only SFR) with 15-20 players in whole WvW for half a day keep being Full. That is kinda ridiculous, i won’t say that my 8 years old little brother could work out a better system, but indeed that is not to far from the reality :p

Buy Some Apples.6390:

Solution: You and your friends move to a non-Full server.

Another Skywalker there is not!

Yo, Captain Obvius, what about guilds who were transfering and got stuck middle way?

UP!

+ added some important infos =)

sMihaly.1492:

SFR was the best server before the 3/26/2013 patch. Before then it was medium population, and #1, then got flooded by free transfers.
Still waiting for those to leave.

+1

To be more accurate we are talking about the players who were on SFR beafore september / october 2012 ppl who gave everything to our community and worked hard to bring the server to the top, few of us are still on SFR while many has spread on different servers or went inactive long ago, well, maybe someone is on his way to return back… i’m not sure if we will be ever able to get really back but you know as long as some of us are here there is hope, we won’t give up trying.

Dear Anet guys, with such a change you are going to swap a nice and entertaining day like saturday, usually full of fights and fun, for a dead day where ppl will just slack around waiting for the reset. I m really confused, what is the meaning ?

I really don’t want to be bad but sometimes i feel like you have no idea how WvW works.

Swamurabi.7890:

FA wasn’t nearly as overstacked as the NA T1 servers, lost several guilds to T3 and still took weeks to drop from full to very high.

The population algorithm looks at “active” WvW players (not PvE, PvP or EotM) over an unspecified period of time. It’s designed to even out the fluctuations over time so a server can’t use blackout tactics to change their status.

Nobody knows what an “active” WvW player is.
Nobody knows the length of time that is looked at, but it’s longer than one match.

Speculation is that the algorithm doesn’t adjust population levels quickly for accounts that transfer off a server.

i don t want to be bad but that is not correct. SFR has been Very High for a few hours during the morning a couple weeks ago. Also Deso and FSP turned from Full to Very High in less than one week. That would be impossible if we apply what Anet said about the way they use to determinate server status.

Beware what they say or tells you, it is everything sorted in the way they maximize transfers, it could even be that they do it manually.