Nice to see the dolts perpetuating the “internet clueless” paradigm. No idea how life/process development/customer relations/<insert anything> actually works but speak online as the foremost experts on the subject. It’s really just a function of immaturity and ignorance, in the end. Age isn’t a factor, in my experience, as age and maturity correlate poorly in the context of the internet.
In closing, they’re working on it and have been for some time. If you can’t realize they’re actively working on a better solution from the existing posts without your own personal hotline to a developer, you’re beyond help and not really looking for it to be fixed. You just want to rail at someone and the source of your angst likely has little to do with GW2 at all.
edit: In the spirit of full disclosure, I’m also frustrated as are all players doing large scale combat, I’d wager. Everyone needs to realize that there are many constraints and considerations the developers have to factor into their solution space and they may not be readily apparent to us, as the end users. It’s an iterative process and were it a simple issue, it would’ve been remedied already.
This should have been dealt with before launch.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Lol, read again. NOTHING is dropping now vs. loot was dropping before. NO LOOT now. items dropped from every 3rd mob before. they changed it. I am not complaining about bad luck, lol. they made nothing drop now.
why do you care how i choose to play the game. I don’t like doing fractals. i could live with farming mobs. why do you care?
Because you choose to play the game in a way that doesn’t give you what you want and then complain about it.
Do you see anyone complaining that lvl4 Moas in Wayfarer’s don’t drop ascended pieces? Because that’s what you are doing.
If you don’t want to do fractals, then right now you can’t get an ascended back piece. Simple as that. Simply accept that you can’t get everything by doing anything.
dude they were dropping items. why did they nerf it? That’s my question. I don’t want an ascended piece to drop. I just want the vial, which requires tons more farming. I don’t understand why they felt the need to make these changes. Wasnt their manifesto to let people play the way they wanted, not force them into one play style?
Secondly, they said there’d be other ways to get these things. where can we obtain the backpiece outside of frectals.? simple questions, really.
I guess people who love fractals feel threatened by those who don’t like doing them, lol.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Many people are leaving WvWvW in disgust because of god mode thieves. One guy last night " I am not going to waste my time complaining, I will just go play something else…" He’s not alone. I’ve heard this many times in the last few weeks.
Highest dps, perma stealth due to culling and best mobility in ONE class? I’ve never seen a worse implementation of stealth in any game. I
While you are trying to fix culling in WvWvW, please lengthen stealth cool down times. You are losing customers. Many of us refuse to buy from your store to support such a poorly balanced system. Thank you.
Culling and rendering aside… WvWvW is inherently imbalanced… They’ve always been honest about WvWvW balance being an after thought.
You went into a deliberately imbalanced game mode and are upset about the imbalance, maybe try sPvP? If imbalanced combat isn’t your thing.
They requested my feedback. I never read that perma stealth was a WvWvW design feature. Where was that stated? The rest of the classes are balanced. Why should this single class be so far off?
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Let the grinders play around all they want in their little dungeons. Just allow those of us who hate dungeons to get the same gear in more enjoyable ways. This should have been available from day one.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
I have the Tome of the rubicon. it is an ascended item, and i made it on my first day of doing fractals. (I also started that day with 60s to my name)
If you are having trouble getting the mist essence then try using full MF gear. I wasn’t when i looted mine, but the guy that got the 3 in one fractal had full MF gear on. Hopefully you guys get yours soon. Btw dont make the one with the powerful bloods or it will cost you 100G however if you go for the scale one (i think that one has same stats, but i can’t check atm) it will cost maybe 2 gold for 250 of them.
Hopefully you guys get your mist essence’s soon
I had +180% magic find. it still took me 5 hours.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Despite people complaining about the ascended gear being just another grind to get… you know the usual whining that people do….
By running difficulty level 2 fractals I had the item needed to craft the ascended back piece, Just from very casual play I had all of the skill points and ectos and most of the tier 6 mats needed, the rest I bought from the TP.
As for the rings, you get your first one at difficulty 10-11… I’m only on difficulty 4 atm and the dungeon itself is not difficult in comparison to other dungeons in this game and it’s actually fun and easy to find groups since everyone is doing it…
People will complain about anything, heck they even complain about handouts/free stuff that is given to them… this is definitely no exception. It doesn’t take loads of money to get this stuff, it takes playing the game the way you normally play. The only reason it’s going to take your life away or all your gold is if you’re so impatient you have to have the gear “RIGHT THIS SECOND” In which case you need to look at your own personal faults, not ArenaNet for adding something to the game.
Goodie for you. Some of us hate dungeons and will never do them. Why didn’t they make these available in wvwvw right away? It can’t be that hard. Yes, they added mandatory dungeon grinds to be competitive. thanks.
If you honestly think that the few stat increases from 3 items is going to give someone the edge or “ease” to kill you and stop you from being competitive… you must not be very good at pvp and suggest you stop.
Yes 20%+ better stats are minimal. Lol.
It’s 3% overall change in your total character stats.
Get the maths right. You have innate stats at 80 alongside stats from gear. Do the maths properly, hint: taking items in isolation is not accurate.
Don’t blame a 3% change in stats for why you would lose a fight, that’s just weaksauce.
Nope. Add the stats.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Oh and for the record I do vids on the fractals and literally show how much of a grind it ISN’T! It’s not hard takes moderate casual skill and you can do it slowly. I got 2 pieces doing 2 dungeons per day for the last 9 days. So people calling this a grind just plainly didn’t do it and assuming. It’s so easy it should actually get buffed so cut it out drama queens. Or you can try and fight facts fight the post you didn’t read and the vids I threw up barely trying on fractals. I am not a Anet fan boy I just don’t like lying or misinformed people and thats what is going on now.
You have a very different definition of what isn’t a grind compared to me.
So basically, your definition of a grind is anything that requires a modicum of effort?
Nope. ANything that requires repetitively doing activities that I don’t enjoy….such as dungeons.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Great fights. The only complaint I have is that the culling/rendering bug can be leveraged (kinder word than exploited) to advantage certain tactics. very frustrating to have 50+ enemies suddenly on you with certain guilds always the ones appearing out of no where. Not their fault. Anet should fix the bug.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
As a guardian:
I can withstand burst thieves and then just faceroll them with my greatsword and burning damage.
I’ll have trouble catching them though, if they start fleeing. If i’m not using my meditations/gap closers then there’s no way I can catch them. Guardians are terrible at long range.
As a thief:
Yeah guardians are the hardest for me. I can only beat tanky guardians if I catch them by surprise or if I use my pocket thieves. Venoms some times work but you have to watch out for that greatsword.
@ Mechanix. I hear ya man , the fight gets pretty long and nobody dies. This happens on both classes.
must have been about a week ago in encountered a charr guard bunker straight away i started attacking him first thing he does is run, im not lying i must have chased this guy half way over the Borderlands map starting to strip away at his hp and around after 10mins of chasing i finally kill him after laughing the first that came to my mind was why he didn’t just turn around and start attacking me
he could never see you. what do you expect him to do?
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
North America servers have 2 full servers now, and the rest are high…. this is a dramatic change… Heck i was arguing with someone on the forum 2 weeks ago that the popluation was fine because we had 12 freaking full servers at 2 am in the morning on a tuesday night…..
There are no more normal dungeons lfg now, only fotm lvl 10 lf3m in LA…..
I don’t think i will be touching a mmorpg again…. WoW had forever changed the mmo world from gathering gears that you can keep to gathering gear just so you can dump them when new shiny come out…
many of us are on vacation this week too. bad sign indeed.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
I love this game still and hate the community and how they behave… Or at-least the community on the forum.
It reminds me all too much of what I see in other games, players not actually reading what developers write, thinking about how changes actually impact them or responding in sensible manners.
But then again you are all the 90% right, whatever your idea is EVERYONE holds the same idea.
I find it funny that people talk about grind in ascended gear, the rings drop and fairly easily with one guarenteed and if you cannot afford a black slot after doing over EIGHTY fractal dungeons I have to ask… How bad are you at this game… I mean seriously I get what 60silver roughly per three dungeons at LOW LEVEL DIFFICULTY in those dungeons… You get through 80 dungeons + to the level you are required to actually use the back slot item and you get a ring AND can afford a backslot item… It is that simple.
The stats on the item make a 1%-2% difference to your OVERALL character strength which is NOTHING and a lesser difference than rare to exotics. And makes no difference in world vs world, especially if we cannot select runes and have rune effects in play (and people who use runes for their stats only and don’t work with the effects are just bad players, like the glass cannon only groups, lacking in intelligence)
There is still no gear grind in the game that isn’t optional, none that effects the gameplay in a meaningful way and ascended isn’t even a grind atm due to how they implemented it.
All I see is a bunch of people having a kneejerk reaction without actually having a closer look at how it will effect them and the way the game is played.
lol i have looked closely. it’s hours and hours of a grind in content some of us hate. How difficult is that to understand. the rings don’t always drop. How can you say what is a grind for some of us? It’s not optional. stop saying that. the stats are at least 20% better than exotics. not optional.
Buutttt you don’t need them, the stats are 8% better than an exotic and you don’t need them outside of fractals and even then only after level 11…
That 8% stat bonus is a 1-2% character power bonus at best and even less as you cannot get a full set yet.
Multiple analyses have shown its at least 20%, lol. This is only the beginning.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Spending much time on online commerce sites such as Amazon.com. I encourage anyone who is unhappy with these changes to post reviews early and often. Target.com, walmart.com, newegg.com, gamestop.com.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Honestly, I dont understand how people can compare 3 (yes 3) items to a geargrind such as WoWs or Rift or any other MMO.
I takes roughly 1-1½h per day to “grind” for it after you hit level 10. Once you have the 2 rings you like there is no more “grinding”. You can even save all the wrong stat rings for alts.
It takes much longer than that, I hate dungeons, this is only the beginning. Get it?
Ps. I don’t think fractals are fun at all.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Many people are leaving WvWvW in disgust because of god mode thieves. One guy last night " I am not going to waste my time complaining, I will just go play something else…" He’s not alone. I’ve heard this many times in the last few weeks.
Highest dps, perma stealth due to culling and best mobility in ONE class? I’ve never seen a worse implementation of stealth in any game. I
While you are trying to fix culling in WvWvW, please lengthen stealth cool down times. You are losing customers. Many of us refuse to buy from your store to support such a poorly balanced system. Thank you.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
whatever. I don’t know how me spending 5 hours grinding to get one miserable vial was hurting anet. it’s hilarious that they focused on this vs fixing the hundreds of other broken parts of the game.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
Anti stealth skill for some classes, like Ranger get single player see stealthed players for 30sec and Engineer get AOE skill so everyone around him se stealtehd players for 10sec that i would like.
Rangers should then also have a skill that break stealth, they shoot shoot 1 on a stealthed player and everyone see him.
Yea and Eles should get an ability that removes ranger pets for 30 seconds. Necros could get an ability that locks eles into one element for 30 seconds. Wars should be able to make mesmers not be able to clone and maybe Guardians should get an instant AoE that destroys all engineer equipment in a 1200 radius.
Fine. Pets are pretty useless anyway.
See stealth may actually save WvWvW.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
It’s unreasonable to claim that stealth can never be touched. besides the nerfs were in spvp. the wvw nerfs were trivial. based on the length of this thread, they clearly weren’t enough. nevertheless I think that anet should adjust stealth first. it’s the game breaker in wvw right now.
only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.
this is terrible. I cannot understand why they’d great such a huge bump in stats requiring forced pve for us.