the terain is fun to put an ambush, you can have 5 man parties taking these nodes and often in tc, we’d fight db and fa other 5 man teams
I get that you are playing for TC, which is – surprise surprise – leading the match up against FA and DB by a large margin. No surprise that the players on the winning side are having “fun”. Talk about power creep.
I am not at all surprised that majority of the players, who like the new changes are playing on a server, which is A) leading the match up and has bloodlust buff on them.
I have had countless of small scale fights before this patch (note I am 90% solo roamer in WvWvW). And they were more fun. Now the fun is gone.
Deniara / Ayna – I want the original WvWvW maps back – Desolation [EU]
As per usual anet did not think this through, the reason why they removed the orbs in the first place was because it was unfair to the losing servers!
I think the added areas to the map are great and who knows it may discourage blobs slightly less, but instead of giving the wining server an unneeded buff why didn’t anet just give the winning server temporary points to spend on our ranks and or give the buffs to the guards.
Because as of now the strong have only become stronger!
It doesn’t matter if Guild vs. Guild or duels are ruined.
WvW itself does not work anymore.
As if it wasn’t snowballing enough already…
The snowball just became a massive avalanche.
A server with a massive number advantage now also gains a massive stat advantage and even more points?
I mean SFR was ticking at +1500 ~ +2000 points per 15 minutes.
I couldn’t care less about GvG after watching one of such a match up.
It is just another term for organized Zerg vs. Zerg.
It was a massive cluster of players, and even when you saw someone screw up, it didn’t really matter, because he is just such a small fraction of the whole team.
There had to be a massive number of screw ups in a short duration by the whole team.
Not really skill based, and not really interesting.
But the buff was meant to enchance the WvW portion of the game, but instead WvW just became worse.
I have never been a part of any GvG event, but the one I saw on the stream was pretty amazing. The planning and preparation they did (team composition, tactics, etc) was incredible, their coordination and teamwork was impressive, and their leader made very fast decisions on the fly to react to what the other team was doing. It far surpassed the performance of any any zerg I ever saw in WvW and I can quite easily understand the appeal of such battles in comparison to the brain dead action that ANet has turned the rest of WvW into.
Personally, I would prefer that WvW had been the large-scale, terrain dependent, strategy-based team activity it was claimed to be, but I can fully understand why GvG emerged in its wake. As you say, of course, it doesn’t much matter since bloodlust pretty much trashes both.
D/D Thief who prefers mobility to stealth … so yeah, I die a lot
Stormbluff Isle [AoD]
As I mentioned yesterday…. these types of changes really will prove a point. There is a huge disconnect between the dev team and the forum users. Very soon, we will find out which one knows what they are talking about, and which needs to learn to listen.
After 5 minutes of WvW, the strongest server on our matchup (Gunnar) has already the superior points bonus (+150). Our zerg is being farmed in the Bloodlust and nobody cares anymore about towers and keep which are way more important, please, this is not helping at all, it’s only increasing people who wants to change server to play a good WvW
Sad day….. a lake replaced with a sPVP map… if I wanted to play sPVP I would be doing that…..not a fan of having it forced upon us.
Bloodlust buffing the dominat server of the week! Not sure how that ever sounded like a good idea….after all the dominant server usually has the numbers advantage……which will almost always mean they will have the buff.
Buff here, buff there. Everytime buff flips we get insane skill lag for a few seconds.
FPS lower than ever at ruins without enemies on the screen.
Ram mastery buggy as hell.
Probably also another way of saying, if you want to duel, or PVP, make use of the Mists.
So basically what you’re saying is, WvW is not meant for PvP, it is only meant for PvD and dat PPT, running along at 4fps in 40+ numbers so that the big meanies on the other team can’t hurt you and make you cry?
It doesn’t matter if Guild vs. Guild or duels are ruined.
WvW itself does not work anymore.
As if it wasn’t snowballing enough already…
The snowball just became a massive avalanche.
A server with a massive number advantage now also gains a massive stat advantage and even more points?
I mean SFR was ticking at +1500 ~ +2000 points per 15 minutes.
I couldn’t care less about GvG after watching one of such a match up.
It is just another term for organized Zerg vs. Zerg.
It was a massive cluster of players, and even when you saw someone screw up, it didn’t really matter, because he is just such a small fraction of the whole team.
There had to be a massive number of screw ups in a short duration by the whole team.
Not really skill based, and not really interesting.
But the buff was meant to enchance the WvW portion of the game, but instead WvW just became worse.
I’m guessing that they want to encourage and strengthen intra-server teamwork, seeing as roamers, duelers does not add value to the notion of inter-server war. It is war that they want to bring into perspectives, not so called guerrilla groups, who roam in their own self-interest.
Probably also another way of saying, if you want to duel, or PVP, make use of the Mists.
I didnt work myself to lvl 80 and run the same dungeon over and over to look the way I wanted to, only to join the mists and look like a lvl 1 character. So no.
Looks like the solution is to build trebs in the keeps and 1 or 2 stay there to treb the ruin. Time to lvl up treb mastery. Looks like they only care about spvp ¬¬.
What have they done for spvp? This patch was for you guys. Sure they failed, but still they give you much more attention.
Attention? lol
this patch is an attempt to get all GvG guild to leave WvW and make a new home in Spvp. Sadly Spvp will never fit with the GVG guilds.
You sound like one of those conspiracy nuts.
It’s not just for ‘GvG’, anyone not in Tier 1 will hate this, I suppose Tier 1 is the majority though, so let’s screw over anyone and everyone below them, anyone in a lower tier server, so they wake up in the morning with the map dazzlingly night capped, and every enemy with +150 to all stats. Let’s screw over the solo roamers, the party roamers, the guild groups, all over WvW. Because now the only WvW is zerging, out of the group = taken out by numbers not just because numbers but because numbers with +150 stats.
Looks like the solution is to build trebs in the keeps and 1 or 2 stay there to treb the ruin. Time to lvl up treb mastery. Looks like they only care about spvp ¬¬.
What have they done for spvp? This patch was for you guys. Sure they failed, but still they give you much more attention.
Would be better for them stop caring about their game, if this is what “attention” results.
Seafarer’s Rest EU – PvE/WvW – 8 × 80 chars.
Most used: Guard/Mes/War/Nec/Ele.
Yes, i use 5 chars at time. Because REASONS.
This pretty much reflects what’s gonna happen, maybe not at prime time but off-peak times definitely, absolutely idiotic to add stat boosts to the buffs imo.
amazing the amount of crying that goes on on the forums. Are we going to have another 10+ threads from the gvg crowd crying about the new buff now? (vocal minority and all, of course they will listen to you! /sarcasm off
Are you seriously saying that you think GvG’ers are the only ones who think the bloodlust buff is bad?? Could you possibly be so dense that you don’t realize what giving the stronger server 150 buff to all stats will look like? You do realize that the buff can only be removed by one of the weaker servers taking control of THREE of the five capture points, right? That rules out any sort of alliance to balance things.
The amount of crying on the forums may be amazing (actually not so much considering the state of WvW), but the amount of ignorance can be even greater as you’ve just shown.
D/D Thief who prefers mobility to stealth … so yeah, I die a lot
Stormbluff Isle [AoD]
They removed the orbs for a very good reason, why.. why bring them back?
You just ruined duels, you just ruined guild vs guild meetings.. you just ruined the fun out of lone roamers like myself… and worst of all, you just made the strongest server even stronger
Dear god, whats happening to developers lately? Do they even play games and understand whats best for them?
- No Fun in owning everything due to Buffs.
- No Fun in owning everything because of the zergs difference.
- No Fun in having everything in the morning and no actual capping and battling.
- No Fun at all… I fail to see ANet’s logics. I really do…
I’ll guess i have to PvE the crap out of the game and start searching for a Mass PvP oriented game. For me this game crossed that barrier.
PS: RIP Quaggans. You were doing more for the WvW than those Ruins of Power ever will.
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Hey ANET why don’t you sticky this thread. While you “COLLECT YOUR DATA.” We’ll continue to sit here and say we told you so…..
Mean while why don’t you go collect data on whether the sun rises and sets everyday..just to confirm that it actually happens….common sense…must not be so common
amazing the amount of crying that goes on on the forums. Are we going to have another 10+ threads from the gvg crowd crying about the new buff now? (vocal minority and all, of course they will listen to you! /sarcasm off
Could care less about GvG… but facing a server with superior numbers already makes this near impossible. STRONG=STRONGER
i knew it that it will turn out like that, this mechanic is fail, you guys from arenanet are not aware of the real issue, more peope = win, from now on even a bigger gap between the strong and weak populated servers, gratz
Guess you better stop playing then…. the patch has been up for what…. no more then 30min and already crying. Just go play something else.
LOL. If you think that it’s going to take any time at all playing the game to understand the effect bloodlust will have on WvW you shouldn’t be playing it either … for different reasons, of course.
D/D Thief who prefers mobility to stealth … so yeah, I die a lot
Stormbluff Isle [AoD]
amazing the amount of crying that goes on on the forums. Are we going to have another 10+ threads from the gvg crowd crying about the new buff now? (vocal minority and all, of course they will listen to you! /sarcasm off
You think it’s only people crying who attend in GvG’s? the servers with most numbers/most coverage will win with this buff, it doesnt only affect gvg players it affects everyone, so gtfo
Herb The High / Herbaliser / In Between Space
We Be Chilling – High Commander
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Well… Anet logic: "Hmm, how to make the majority of players happy(to be read “the t1/2 servers”)… I know – give them stat buffs, then additional rewards in form of leagues… yep, that would work and everyone that complains, well, they are a vocal minority."
has bloodlust buff on them.
