Guild Wars 2

Honestly thought this was going to be about Invisible/teleporting/fly hacking/noclipping/hacking thread. But no, 2v1 is a strategy not a cheat, sorry.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

There seem to be many unfrandly people here!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

ukuni.8745:

static discharge the anti thief in spvp anyone?

Lots of engi builds already anti thief.

Nymph of Meliai.6739:

there is a Colosseum type arena in OS… introduced specifically for guilds to gvg.

there is zero need to do gvg in wvw…

The best thing that anet could do would be to change OS to eotm style mega-server… that way guilds can find match ups for gvg that are not restricted to their server match up or tier. It would keep everyone happy.

No.

The OS “arena” is just a rushed patch up to apologize for one of the Devs disrupting a GvG and kittenting on players.

No amount of little changes is going to make it good enough for the purpose of a real GvG game mode.

Looks like someone doesnt win just by spamming their usual one button of his awesome reddit meta build.

1. don’t use the FT. it was designed as a perma stability/low dmg option to continiously pressure enemies. Since juggernaut got ridiculed this kit is broken. exceptions are pvp-decap for its 3 and 5
2. “immune” can only happen if you try to burn a destroyer mob or when you try to cc an enemy while they run with stability. pop your minefield and try again and/or pay attention to their frekkin buff-display. in case of warri or guardian: they can have a passive that triggers stability on the first cc they get. try a minor one (like throw shield) and look what happens.
3. more attack power is always wanted. You can have the same runes / sigils / equip like every other class, while also having many trait options to transmute your stats. running “toughness > power” is an option in wvw. It can be a wasted trait slot or your savior. depends on what you face.
4. trying to overcome a condimancer with condis is futile… for EVERY class. Guess why I play power/cc engi in wvw. And in pvp the balancing is just fine. Try purity sigils there.
5. thiefs have no stability. Engis have a metric kittenton of cc options (even worse than hammer warris if timed right). You do the math.
6. Every lost fight should be a learning experience for you, not a reason to cry for more buffs here.

Hvaran.6327:

agrred with you in everything u said except zerg v zerg. As i said u got brains, but i hate your blob build still, because it’s just sucks big back kitten. It’s cool for you, but advertising it makes people really go that way and that way is kitttttttten for the class.
There are some classes and roles that MUST be in zerg because we used to that gameplay, but it doesn’t mean u can’t be usefull in zerg as they are.

I can be same usefull with my engi as 80% of GWEN pugs on my server in blob =)

And i said that you seems got low expirience in organized groups like 15-30 people not the zoneblobbing kitten or smallscale. Guild raids gvg? no? IF u run pug zerg withkittenbest comi in the workld with 25 guys that doesn’t make this run organized =)

Well you have right I run pretty much only zone blobs or small scale up to 5 ppl our server pretty much havent those mid scale groups. I played quite a lot GvG 20v20 but with different builds. You know that I havent my other builds in signature doesm mean I dont play them:-P I have right now 11 builds for different situations:-)

What brings my engi for zerging?

dmg:
~4.5k bombkit Auto (no cd, 5 targets, applies vuln.)
~4.5k dodge-proc bomb (no cd, 5 targets, applies vuln.)
~7k BoB (30sec cd, 5 targets, knockback, applies vuln.)
~2.3k Minefield (20sec cd, max 25 targets, rip boons for each mine hit, applies vuln.)
~5.2k Blunderbus (8sec cd, 5 targets, applies vuln. on crit, applies 5 stacks of bleed)
~9k Jump Shot (16sec cd, 5 targets, applies vuln. on crit)
~2.8k Bunker down (2sec cd, 5 targets, applies vuln.)

cc:
Overcharged shot (knockback / 12sec cd / single target)
detonate (push / 18sec cd / 5 targets)
BoB (launch / 30sec cd / 5 targets)
Netshot (2s immobilize / 8sec cd / single target)
Gluebomb (1s immobilize, 1sec cripple / 25sec cd / 5 targets per pulse – 4 pulses)
Smokebomb (3s blind / 25sec cd / 5 targets per pulse – 3 pulses)

Group Utility:
- all bombs / mines heal for ~200
- Firefield on 10sec cd
- Smokefield on 25sec cd
- Waterfield on 15sec cd
- Waterfield on 25sec cd
- 3 Blast finishers
- cleanse 2 conditions on up to 5 targets & 3k aoe heal every 15sec
- 4 sec stability + 1 random boon (might(30sec), retaliation(10sec), fury(10sec), swiftness(10sec)) for 5 allies every 30 sec

Survivability:
- ~21k health (w/o the standard wvw boons, else ~24k)
- ~2.2k toughness
- ~ 6.5k heal every 15sec
- healing skill gets reseted once I reach 25% life / 90sec cd

I know, if you pick a specific category out of this you will find a class / build that does better in this specific category. Then again, to outperform me in each category, you have to dedicate 4 more people to the jobs that i can fulfill already to satisfying degrees, while not even switching a single trait or utility for doing so…
… and I switch my utilities a lot >:)

Tigirius, last time you said you only do pve…
Did you read the thread title?
Do you know that this lack of balancing you propagate all over this forum is basically non-existent, especially when it comes to pvp and wvw?
Did you know that its only the steep learning curve for the engi that creates the illusion of being subpar?
Not a single time since I play engi, I got killed by something else but my own stupidity. There was not a single situation or enemy I could not take after finding out what to do / how to outsmart them. The engineer is a difficult and skillcap-less class that one can always improve himself in. If you don’t like the trail and error / high apm side if this class then please stop complaining already and roll for something else.

Things that actually need fixes:
The bugs (like for all classes’ traits and skills)
The hobosacks
Thats it. Most engis are perfectly fine with the balancing of their class, what we call out for is more variety in accessible weapons and new skills / traits, since that is what the engi is about: chaos.
The more toys we have to our disposal the deadlier we get, which does not – under no
circumstances – mean that we need a re-balance for our existing traits or skills.

Gw2 =/= other mmo’s, stop comparing them. Open the previous patchnotes, look into the class-specific changes and tell me again that this class’ dev-team is not doing anything. Every single class receives the same attention and if you really want to find out the class that is changed the least, then you end up with guardian. Why? because it was mostly fine from launch and only required minor changes and balance updates from time to time.

pls anet

pls

On Wednesday 11/6 starting 8PM CEST (Central European Summer Time)

we invite all guilds from every server to come EotM to face against the other guilds in a all-out free fight

There will be no rules.
No matter the size of the guild.
If they double team, blob, bunkering in tower everything is allowed.
If you dont like the overflow you are in, then you can just look for other overflow.

We are just tired of the same match ups and facing the same enemys,
we want to fight more and other guilds.

Me and my guild [OFS] will be coming, a 15-20man group
And we hope many more will come aswell.

If your guild is coming please leave a reply here and try to spread the word to all the guilds in your server.

thanks to all the guilds showing up, was nice to see so many showing up

good succes and will sure do more of this

any raid videos of this event post them here

We’ll come too, should be fun.

So even I reunite my guild last week I am looking forward to this event =) Seems too late will be there – seems like a good place to celebrate reunion!

Grace

Nice Idea. ASAP from Kodash will participate and we hope to have fun with all the other guilds who join this event.

Grats. Was an interesting 9 weeks, stuff happened.

Atleast there was always people to fight at any hour of the day or night. And the fights with SFR were always good

The truth is that this topic is far behind the times. Good guilds stopped ppting a long time ago. Present day, not only are they bored of ppt, they are bored of the pug farming and blobbing that constitutes 99% of an organized raid.

The only interesting thing to do in this game is GvG. The level of player support for such an unsupported game mode is a testament to how sophisticated the combat system and current meta really is. It’s a shame that neither this nor any other type of guild-centric activity was ever emphasized by Anet.

Getting pretty sick of jealous scrubs trying to pretend they know things.

Pro tip: WvW does not = EB only

Before the Anet fail that was transfer promoting season before each wvw tournament, we stayed nr.1 for a long time without playing PPT, just playing for fights and destroying everyone, not even scouting, sieging or even defending much.

Our randoms didn’t even need commander, they would just take the all the borderlands in small groups of friends, with guild raids taking sieged-up keeps.

Vizunah was the first to beat us with coverage and PPT game and they did a good job at it. Now many servers are stacked, including us, and we have to play differently a bit, but all true SFR know why we got nr.1 in the first place.

Evan Lesh.3295:

How would you like to see any/all of these work?

I’d like to see it work in WvW and not just sPvP.

I play for PPT=I’m on a winning server=My server has more coverage=We have a great WvW community

I play for fights=I’m on a losing server=My server has less coverage=We’re trying to keep our people from being recruited by higher servers.

Welcome to WvW

SkylightMoon.1980:

We all realize this and have for a while, its just time for the devs to. In terms of coverage, there are rarely any balanced matchups that give each server a fighting chance. For this reason, long ago did people learn to enjoy fights more than get worked up over hours of ppt herding that never was going to pay off anyway.

I think WvW should be redesigned around fights. People who wins fights gain PPT, instead of capping points. If this were true, and you could measure server skill by how well they fought, Blackgate would be mid-tier, Mag and PS would be #1, and things would feel a whole lot better.

I don’t know about you, but the devs have been eerily silent on the actual status of WvW. The entire game mode is more about fights now. Anyone who has gone to WvW know prime-time is littered with open field fights between pugs or guilds.

Even though the high tier guilds are getting burnt out because of the lack of WvW change or GvG addition and are beginning to leave the game because of this(bless you all, you have pioneered the meta of gw2 skill groups for so long, we understand).

Even amongst servers themselves, they all know who has the strongest fighting force. Blackgate and SFR know they arn’t collectively the most skilled fighters out there, they just have a lot of coverage. Actually, a lot of Tier 1 servers are like this and all know this. Guilds themselves represent their servers with their fierce fighting power.

If the dev’s take the time to read this, I figure you probably won’t want to remove WvW ppt but you have to understand that the ability to win Open Field fights, in some situations against forces 3 times your skill, is a better test of skill than PPT because of how unfair coverage is. You seriously have to take this into account if you want there to be any hope for WvW.

Empty maps on many servers are leaving us with nothing in PPT – give me a break.

This isn’t WvW, it’s a waiting room.

Chaos.2531:

Zephyrus.9680:

PPT is insignificant, WvW is all about the fights anyway.

But assuming you’re referring to PPT, that’s not true. Roamers just flipping camps can do more than a full zerg unless everyone is in K-train mode. Sometimes when things are really dead you can flip all 6 camps on a borderland which is actually worth more than soloing a keep (which can also be done solo, given enough time…). I did all 6 camps several times in seasons vs BG — supposedly the most populated server. I don’t even care about PPT, it’s just that’s what I’ll do when looking for people to fight.

If there are zergs on the map, roamers will usually be scouting them as well. Not sure how you could consider that insignificant.

Anyway, the best roamers are GS warriors and thieves. Worst I think are necros and guardians.

It is insignificant when it comes down to individual players. Even if you were to flip all 6 camps by yourself, what would that mean in such a large scale battle? A minimal difference in the total score. ( Unless for some weird reason they were left unchecked for a considerable period of time. )

If a roamer kills and stomps 1 person and caps one camp every 15 minutes they earn 8 points for their server.

A zerg of say 35 people would need to capture 11 keeps in that time to gains the same number of points per person as that roamer did.

Now clearly its not a scalable model because if you have more than 3-4 decent roamers on a map you’re going to run out of camps pretty quickly, but the fact remains that decent roamers have the single largest effect on their servers score when looking at it on an individual basis.

As it stands Mesmers are only really any good in WvW with null field and veil. I think it’s a great skill and add more viability to Mesmers in WvW.