Guild Wars 2

My suggestion:

Marksman1minor: You and your pet have opening strikes (Opening strikes causes 5 Vulnerability and it’s unblockable)
MM3minor: You get opening strike every 10 seconds. (Or after every 10 attack. That makes sense in Quickening Zephyr and Shortbow builds)
MM5minor: Opening Strike always critically hits.

So the minor trait line along the MM tree favors the “sustain” the ranger is well known… Well should be…

You guys now,,, that the half of this “no ranger” “meta” is because of the kitten longbow…?

If the LB could do the same DPS as a GS in MELEE than nobody would say a thing… The most popular ranger hate thread would be about the pets….. Oh this is the problem…

A ranger cannot be a ranged damage dealer ’cos the Ele is better at this.
It cannot be a melee damage dealer ’cos the warrior or the guardian or the ele or the necro or the thief or the engineer is better.

Anyways: I would like a patch note:

“If the elementalist gets hit cannot swap attunement for 30 sec”
“If an engineer gets hit cannot swap kits for 30 sec”
“If a warrior gets hit cannot uses Adrenaline for 30 sec”
“If a thief gets hit in stealth cannot use Steal for 30 sec”
“If a necro gets hit cannot enter Death Shroud for 30 sec”
“If a Guadian gets hit cannot uses the Virtue for 30 sec”

Reasonable (I Know, L2P…)

Take the range limitation off of the LB.

So you can yell: “Stack at me! Stack at me!”

=bearbow problems solved (well, the half of it…)

Anyway what’s the whole point of a ranger going into a Dungeon when they are the King of the WvW?

/Ijustwokeupfrommysweetdream

Oh, kitten

I’m a relatively new GW2 player.

Fluffball, JC, AEFA, Durzzla, Eurantien… if I see a post where they were commenting I take it seriously. I don’t really know anything about other the “Ol’ Big Names” since I’m a latecomer.

And Prysin

He uses the L2P to often when he could say something less “rude” but… He is Prysin. His arguments are mostly valid and the arguments help discussing things. So I count him as a top tier contributor on the ranger forums. And he helps me to keep my crying post’s number low, because you know:

“Prysin gonna get ya – L2P!”

Just kidding!

Kudos for the aforementioned gals and guys!

/respect

(oh, and L2English for myself, sorry)

This forum is a piece of kitten ate my post TWICE!

I think we always make jokes from each other’s voice/accent I’m not a commander but I’m always on the TS and like to be a bit more active there than a common peon. Sometimes it backfires since I have strange/funny accent. One of the commanders couldn’t understand a single thing I said. But only he. So he delegated his girlfriend as an english/english translator and refered me as a “Klingon”
“Klingon please take your team to north camp and get it! Thanks”

Typical commander phrases like BUFFME-BUFFME! Dodgethru-dodgethru getting to be kind of jokes in our guild. Nobody takes it seriously. We are from many countries our age is different so is our gender.

Just don’t give up and do not take it seriously!

Just a question: how do you survive a thief? Or a ranger who has Piercing? positioning only and Mist Form? A thief can oneshot you, and a ranger can 2 shot you. from afar. I understand that you can wreck havoc but the very second they realise this you are toast. No stability, so the first knock down kills you.

I don’t see how you survive… Sorry. It must be positioning…

Celestial exotics are cheap to get but you have to unlock the recipe for the Insignia and for the individual pieces too. ( I was whining ’till I got told that celestial has exotic version o.O)

It’s early morning but AFAIK the Insignia recipe comes from supply boxes from Labyrinthine Cliffs. You only need 5 Charged Quartz, 5 ecto and some Gossamer/Leather for each. And 30 days if you don’t get lucky mining the Crystal node in your home instance…

Ascended Light armour is a different story…

Thank you Galsia!

Well, a stupid question from me…

Does it affect the applied conditions too or they are independent. I know that the conditions are “real-time” affected by the stats of the applier, like might. But if they come close… Is this affected by Stone Splinter too?

Well, your gear in the sPvP is ABSOLUTELY independent from the gear you wear in PvE or WvW…

And you cannot level an ele in celestial, it’s only for 80 characters.

BTW the D/D is very good for leveling. I was surprised how good it is actually.

My advice: craft Toughness/vitality gear as armour. If you solo the toughness aggro won’t hurt you. In wvw it will help a lot… I mean a LOT. In edge of the mist I had my ele with 25k HP and 2400 armour… Damage=zero, but with staff…. I was usefull.

In wvw, the Dagger ele is also popular with focus or off-hand dagger.
It can be power, condition or hybrid.
And you can find some Scepter burst build usually with 6 in Air.

In sPvP the celestial D/D ele is “meta” (I hate this word).
You can see some scepter and staff build too.

Second question: I think the elementalist is very “important” profession let it be wvw zerg (staff nuker-healer-CC), sPvP (bunker or roamer) or might-stacking DPS in dungeons (D/F or S/F, sometimes staff)…

And I don’t think ele is squishy… It uses active mitigation instead of the thief’s stealth-teleport-blind. Protection, stability, invul, evade, heal, CC, positioning gives the “tankiness”. (you can see elementalists in the middle of a hammertrain… Even as commanders… This says a bit about how squishy is this profession if build for bunker…)

Ele is hard to play but very rewarding and a skrittload of fun!

I’m not an expert. At all.
Just my 2 cents…

MrSimple: I just leveling my ele now (currently 62). It’s a good experience. I was running with Ice Bow, Signet of Air and Armour of Earth till now. Elemental elite.

I put my points into Earth for more condi+toughness and fire for the Conjure. Now I have Soothing Mist too.

Ice Bow is a killer thing. Just don’t use it if you don’t need it! Drop it for a Fire#5 or Earth#5 than re-equip from the floor.

I used D/D for a melee build and I have to say the ele is not squishy at all. If you fight veterans or skill challenges you have the elemental and the Frost Bow… Easy

Learn the burst combos! On the YouTube you can find some, but here they are as a D/D ele:

Ride/Updraft, swap to fire Burning Speed/Drake’s Breath as you run, Fire Grab, swap to Earth, Churning Earth or Earthquake, autoattack.

Scepter has MORE useful combos and more powerful too. I just don’t like the scepter…

As the gear: upgrade it every 5 levels. Pay more attention on Sigils… they are very important I think. A minor sigil of doom or water can make a difference

Tl:Dr: Ele is FUN to level… Stick to it, you won’t regret it…. I didn’t.

For some strange reason I was sure Celestial can only come in Ascended quality. My bad I accept.

Ash:
I know that Churning Earth is only good against bad players/AFK. Geomancy sounds good. With the Intelligence I tried to support the Power line. Like Fire Grab, RTL, Churning, etc…

Gokil:
What would you call a balanced hybrid? How much power and condi damage? I assume that ferocity and precision are “dump” stat here. I mean they are important but there is no space to get them.

Thanks for all the responses…

Ash:
So your suggestion is a 0/0/6/4/4.. I see the point.
Unfortunately I dislike any stacking sigil. So I was thinking on Battle or Energy…

I do not have the 250 extra condi/power guard buff… Only the Vitality one..

Anyways… just a question… Why do you dislike the Intelligence sigil? I think with offhand dagger it is powerful. Fire Grab, Churning Earth, Earthquake, RTL….

Gokil:

I don’t want to decide to go full power or full condi or not…That’s the whole point of the thread….

And do not tell me that Celestial armour is not expensive… One Damask is 16+ gold.

Anyways… that’s what I was asking… Is the 0/0/0/6/6 a must or not? I think not, since the fresh air build is all right as far as I know…

Thanks for all the suggestions!

EDIT: Sorry Gokil I re-read your post again… you didn’t suggest 6 in water nor in arcana… But if I put my points there I have no idea where my damage going to come from…

I know that you will kill me but I think the closest mechanism to the stealth is the Leap, the Teleport and the Clones. While you are in stealth the enemy doesn’t know where are you for a few seconds.

The Clones can distract the enemy for a few seconds to find you.

The Leap is similar… You were there and now you are here.. or there… Every second counts. Leaping or Teleporting through an enemy yields valuable split-seconds. You know what’s going to happen. The enemy does not.

And I think all of the above mentioned can be used offensively or defensively.

Note: I’m not saying that the Leap or the Clones are anywhere near to the Stealth. Going invisible is a unique thing but I think the closest are what I mentioned…

Hi Eles and Mentalists out there!

I rolled an ele a few weeks ago and since the WvW tournament no longer takes the 99% of my time I decided to level her to 80.

My fianceé plays a staff ele so I’m familiar with the abilities of that kind of playstyle. I’m more of a melee player so Dagger/Dagger it is!

I was just thinking…. Is a hybrid condi/power build viable? Unleash some bursts than dodge like hell and let the conditions work the enemy’s HP down…. Rinse and repeat….

I came up with this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFEQJAoYhcM6cW5wwBfEBGAGpoQwEQAY8NYG8CLdGA-T1SAwATVKpRJ4mHAQOdAAM/NXZwVlMt0CgUdFOnAAg7PqUQKAImGB-w

I don’t really know how much condi-clean I need. Should I use food for it? Does the Water3 affect the Fire8? Or investing points in Water and Arcana is a MUST? Or not?

My gear choice: unfortunately the Celestial Armour and the Strength Runes are not an option. I know “money is everything…” so I have nothing in this game

Any help or suggestion is welcome. I do know that the power builds are wrecking havoc on a wvw-field. And I did follow the threads about the pure condi builds too. So please don’t suggest that instead of a hybrid D/D build I should play with a healing power staff or a power S/D build or reroll warrior.

Thanks

EDIT: I forgot to mention:In this game I really don’t know anything apart of the WvW maps and I heard tales about the Edge of the Mist. Once ANET puts some dungeons or outdoor boss on a WvW map I will get some PvE mentality

EDIT#2: I have the Defence Against Guards stacks. Still lots to do to get the Guard Killer through…

@Vorlon: read the thread from the beginning…. You will see…

I don’t know… I play a trapper ranger with Ice+Spike trap and Axe+Dagger and Greatsword…. And it is not uncommon that a ROFLCopter warrior escapes me before I can pin him/her down for my party to do the kill… I think the GS (with some other toy, like runes of melandru, rush, etc…) has a bit too much mobility but it’s just me….

OK, so in an ANET world I go into a restaurant and because some customer’s food got burned, poisoned and got half-eaten by worms the rest of the customers MUST wait till they sort it out…. Not bad…

Anyway how the hell is this restaurant selling burned-poisoned food? For money….
Why don’t they check the chefs before they do any food, and why don’t they fire the bartender too?

Oh, I have a message from my antivirus company:
“Sorry but since some of our customers could not update the product we disable every update possibilities until we sort this out. It can take up to half year. Thanks for your patience.”

I have the tokens… my fianceé and the third of my guildies not….

Again… terrible ANET fail. They cannot do a single kittening thing right.
Their PR is unacceptable (I would risk a “kitten” here…).

But do not worry the season 2 is coming out, and everyone will be happy to do the new events…. Or not….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Ranger-Pets-Overpowered/page/6#post3855232

We have this topic since a while. Even Allie responded! And what ANET did? Nothing I’m telling you! It’s time to protest against the OP bearbow ranger again.

Every time I see an armoured bear or guinea pig lurking around I have to log out for a few minutes because my hands are shaking in terror and it’s no good for my mental health (my therapist said…).

So pleeeease ANET nerf the OP bearbow ranger!!!!!444!!!!

Hang on!

ANET is smart and only does nerf to the OP classes… Rangers and warriors get slightly nerfed every patch and every other class gets some buffs. It means that warriors and RANGERS are op. If you still cannot decide which one is more OPed then think about bears. They can get into water…

#howbearinwater2014

@Prysin:

Sort of… Occasionally filling the spot of an EN

So TREM can be useful and they ARE but they cannot be the backbone of the “army”. The lack of area effects and “standing power” prevents it.

@wads: possibly the GW could roll over the same number of TREMs but since the TREM is spread it would be a time consuming procedure.

And you are right, it’s a RockPaperScissor. But what everybody sees is the clash of the GWEN toe-to-toe. TREMs are the forgotten heroes

Anyway, without the TREMs the WvW would be less fruitful since less lootbags. So they ARE the most important things in a zergfight (just kidding :P)

I think it’s simple: TREM classes are there to fight the other TREM’s. Occasionally filling the spot of an EN (water fields, AoEs, buffs, softCC, etc…) then getting back to their job harrasing the backline and picking off targets.

Meanwhile the Warriors and Guardians are swinging their long-shafted tools in close combat achieving basically nothing. They are so OP they cannot kill even each other.
Eles and Necros are there to kill the warriors and guardians and prevent their getting killed. TREMs are there to killing the Eles and Necros and to prevent their own Eles and Necros are killed by the enemy TREMs.

Simple

Every single part of the GW2 is doable with a ranger….
Fastest? Not always
Easiest? Not always.
Optimal? Not always.
Doable? YES!!!!

Avoid the minmaxing speedrun dungeon groups, avoid the elitist WvW guilds and you are fine.

Play the game and have fun!

Jski: it’s easy to try out a lot of builds since the trait refund is free \o/

I think the ele has lots of good builds and a lot of variety. Try them all!

+1 it would be nice to keybind differently every character’s and every weapon’s abilities. Or at least move them around on the bar.

Note: Funny things happening if you are not careful! Not long ago my ranger was lucky enough to get a Conjured Frost Bow on a top of the wall of a tower attacked by a large zerg. I was casting FB#4 on CD to repel the attackers. Unfortunately the FB disappeared and I was standing there pressing the Greatsword #4 ability.

So I was flying into the middle of the zerg with widely spread wings and idiot expression

Solrik: I don’t understand this! Can you explain a bit more please? What you want to achieve and why is the on-the-fly swap good?

<= puts away his Great Slang Dictionary For Internet…

Yes, they are powerful but apart of the FSG I’m not sure they worth a permanent Utility Slot. You can use the Frost Bow for wall defence so giving a Guardian a very good ranged option. You can use the FSG for soloing camps or the Hammer if you know you going to be melee. All of them have their uses.

They are very good but usually situational.

Hi there!

I just rolled an ele but my fianceé uses one since a half year or so almost exclusively in wvw and outdoor pve. The thoughts I share are coming from watching her play and fighting together.

She plays a classic support staff ele 0/0/2/6/6. Armor pieces are PVT the accessories are zerkers-knights. One celestial back item. She has 19k HP and 2700 armor. Low crit chance and low crit damage. Next to zero healing power.

You shouldn’t bother with healing power, most of the heals are coming from blasted water fields anyways. Regen is useful but has terrible scaling and it cannot save anybody from bursts.

Crit chance and Ferocity useful stats but if you are a backliner like she is your main job is to cleanse and provide utility fields and/or CC.

A more offensive playstyle needs more offensive stats of course. The ele is a force multiplier. Everybody wants the team’s ele alive and the enemy’s ele dead. What we do: we always ask for support. We try to gather some “paper” classes in our party. Rangers, thiefs, mesmers, other elemetalists. A theif is really thankful if he has a place to run and recover after killing the enemy’s backliners. Work as a team an an ele is undestructable. For instance I used to lay my traps unter the elementalists to provide valuable seconds if a thief tries to burst her down. Our thief friend puts the shadow return next to her, etc…

TL:DR: Stay alive so you can keep others alive.

Hi fellow ranger!

My fianceé plays a staff ele in wvw alongside my trapper ranger. She can do amazing things so I rolled one a day ago or so. Man the ele is fun to play!

Get the champ train for example. You can go lazy and spam water#1 or fire#1 but if you feel so you can dance around the attunements and putting down might-regen-ice-vulnerability in like 5 seconds

As soon as I get to level 30 I will level my ele in EotM

Well almost everybody uses permanent finishers… So getting a slap across the face is not a tragedy. Interrupting a stomping is a bad idea indeed. But with this improvement you can choose how to die…

I still think it’s a good idea to have a limited finisher what counters the stomper’s current finisher and uses a different animation… Just for the fun… It’s not P2W. But for instance I would definitely take it for my ranger and for my thief…

C’mon guys! Don’t be so serious!

Funny idea and I like it! It could work like a limited finisher. Instead of using the stomping player’s finisher it would use your funny animation.

Like a slap on the face or a headstone emerging with a R.I.P. on it, or some other funny thingy. Or the stomper just give you a hug or pets you on the back

Hehe: “How to die with style 2.0”

Cyprus is closer than a thief? :P

Hi Vesus! Just a few idea:

The Pizza with the 2 points in MM is enough for +50% condi duration. If you cannot hit the 100% the rest of the condi duration runes/sigils are wasted.

Sigil of Doom is good if you want more poison uptime but you have a lot of access to poison anyways. I think it’s “overkill”, check out the sigil of Torment on the Axe. Sigil of Venom is the same… you have permapoison on your Dagger offhand + your petswap.

If I were you I would swap the dagger with the torch. So you have a cripple and poison+evade with your ranged weapon and in the same time you have fire field and a ranged attack with your Sword. Also you can leap into your Fire Field with Sword for Fire Shield. You cannot do this with the Axe.

Utilities: You have enough Survival skill to get rid of the conditions already. I wouldn’t suggest using the pretty weak Sharpening Stone Utility. You have it in the MM line anyways (and it procs the SotF grandmaster trait!). You can try Muddy Terrain instead. Or you cannot go wrong with any trap skill (untraited, only for the utility) or any Spirit (you have a free adept tier place since Evasive Purity is not a must-have in this build I think….).

Happy hunting!

I think aside EotM the voice comm. is a must in WvW or for eg. fighting the Three Headed Wurm. Raids are like this since a decade.

Since the WvW tournament has started loads of pve-ers joined the wvw community and it’s a good thing!

The problem with these players is not the lack of skill nor the lack of gear. Is the lack of voice communication. 90% of the wvw-ers are on some kind of voice comm, let it be guild TS or server TS or something. The roamers are on skype…

But what can a wvw-er teach to a pve-er on the map chat? Nothing! Even the “Just follow me!” won’t work because a pve-er cannot run towards a gate without burning every CD on it…

Everybody was a PvE-er but we got better by joining TS and listening.

aldwid: I had the same feeling! But since I have 3-4 full exotic wvw set I don’t give a kitten if someone has legendary. Now I have my gear so I can play for fun not for the badge or T6 mats or Iron Ore. Ascended? One piece barely affect your stat by 1% (apart of the weapon but it’s relatively easy to get…). Play for fun not for the minmaxing… A well timed dodge worth more than a full ascended set.

Just my 2 cents…

For learning the WvW full pvt is good. After you get the hang of it you can start mixing stuff in and out. Knights, Zerkers, etc… I started with full Invader armour and trinkets and after a week or so I swapped out the rings/earrings… then the weapon for zerk. You know…

I found another use of my ranger and one beginner lad from my guild.

The story: after 2 blobfight I recognised the enemy commander so I told the fellow LB ranger to only focus on him (I cannot be sure of course, but after a while I thing you can find the enemy commander…). Also any time my WH#4 was up I send the birds to attack the commander. We downed him a few times (not just the two of us obviously…)sadly no finishing, but the best thing was to imagine his reaction:

He spend the whole night with annoying piercing arrows constantly hitting him and furious blood-sparrows diving at him

Note: piercing arrows are really good. Hitting your primary target with acceptable single target damage and doing the same damage in AoE at the same time is good.
I don’t play LB but I see the point.

I’m keep hoping….

After the 6th round “hopefuly” the current top server will rest a bit since they will be a winner that time.

Is shared 4th means that there is no third? I know I’m annoying

Hi lads!

Can somebody explain me what happens if the Deso keep falling out of tier1 but always wins the tier2, the Kodash does the same and BB stays as now? How are the final points calculated? Can Deso still be the 2nd or 3th?

This is my first season and I don’t really know this swiss-style tournament rules.

Thanks for the information!

I run exactly what Wanderer said. Axe+horn (with Torment and Earth) and GS (with Intelligence and Purity). Spike Trap, Muddy Terrain and Lightning Reflex. Entangle elite. I play this char as a flanker in wvw zerg fights. If the hammertrain is heading my way of course I GTFO because I cannot survive the clash with the train (I bet any other prof can…). Once they start to maneuver I try to hit the “tail” of their zerg with cripple/immob. To make a bit of spaghetti. So our AoE nukers can land their orbital strikes on this few. If they are in the middle of their zerg they are safe because the AoE cap. But if they fall back even a few yards they are not protected by the numbers.

I do the same with Entangle. Find the tail, swap to GS, swoop in, hit Spike Trap, hit Entangle than press the GTFO button hard. If my pet can follow me during the Swoop I can add Fear and AoE immob to this rotation.

Tl:dr: slowing a few member of the enemy zerg even a few second means they are not protected by AoE cap. And the ranger is very good at this.

2nd post:kittenforum for eating my former post!

You can say whatever you want… I feel confident while playing ranger in zergs… Sorry for you zerg means “stay at the blue thingy and hit 1”… this is GW… about the EN side I can kill the most of them or make them retreat ASAP. A retreating ele or necro does no damage to my group. Thanks for God the commanders here in EU are not against the ranger profession. And non of the zerk-builded GWEN wants to meet a ranger on the way back to his group… Sure a thief can kill them faster but killed by a ranger is more painful

Atherakhia.4086:

Prove you wrong? I can do it in 2 words… ‘WvW Meta’ (is that 2 words? /shrug).

No one is talking about strictly support. We’re talking general class utility. You tried your hardest to slight Warriors, but the entire WvW meta revolves around heavy armour classes.

fixed that for you!

Sorry to say but if the warrior or the guardian was wearing medium armour nobody would take them anywhere near a zerg fight. The current wvw meta is the heavy hammertrain and to counter this you need AoE (necros, eles and engineers).

Not heavy = not meta
Not AoE = not meta

It is that simple!

EDIT: If ANET would remove every weapon from the game apart of the Hammer and the Staff 75% of the wvw zerg-only players wouldn’t even notice this

Sorry I have to rush to work but check this out!:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/30-0-10-30-0-You-Got-My-Attention/page/2#post3927246

Only a wvw player spends skill points and gold on something only to mail it to a unknown guy for rewarding him being AFK in Garri.

Only a wvw player presses V together with F.

Only a wvw player rotates his camera constantly while running around in cities.

Only a wvw player pops Stability while fighting against more then 2 mobs.

Rules?

Do not die! Movement speed runes or sigil, lightning reflex, spike trap, muddy terrain is your friend in ANY build if you going to scout. Also a -50% fall damage trait is a very wise choice. You can make some impressive screenshots! :P

Everybody can run into an attacking zerg and shout on the teamspeak and die… The trick is that you survive and you can tell the ppl where they are heading. So tell the numbers, GTFO, change nappies then get back and follow the enemy zerg. This job is not for the kitten

Very good idea… +1

Somewhere deep inside a Battlegrounds the BB has a Castle.
Deso players are marching through the wall and fighting the defenders inside the room.
Suddenly a SFR army arrives and mops the floor with the already engaged Deso and kills the half of the BB fighters.
Someone is yelling on the SFR TS “Hey lads free cookies at the waypoint!”
So the hungry SFR players are leaving the Castle without capping the circle.

Well played SFR! \o/

Gogo Kodash!