Guild Wars 2

I don’t really understand the massive text theon is posting. It doesn’t prove anything, it looks like your own perception of wvw over a 24 hour period.

it’s meaningless.

Shrouded.6450:

Andy.9137:

Shrouded.6450:

I haveta asked, what happened when you guys had better coverage than us? I myself was surprised on the result.

There’s no way to accurately determine how good a server’s coverage is compared to another. You can’t make comments like this based on your own vague perception of what you think….especially considering how biased you are (based on your post history).

there is no use saying things like this.

That kinda applies on everyone who talks about numbers and coverage dont you think so. Im simply genuinely curious, you guys pretty much took all of IOJ’s off peak crew, and you’re all aware that’s TC’s weakness. You were all primed to take us down. I was expecting you guys to take us down.

People greatly exaggerate the IoJ guild merge. I really would rather not go into that argument again….But just to make a point.

Once upon a time, a long time ago before FA received any guilds from IoJ, TC was leading over FA by 110k points. I doubt even what we received would give us enough power to easily beat TC considering the score before the merge.

But still, I don’t want to repeat myself either, so read my post again and try to understand what I meant by it, because if you did, you wouldn’t have just said what you did.

Shrouded.6450:

I haveta asked, what happened when you guys had better coverage than us? I myself was surprised on the result.

There’s no way to accurately determine how good a server’s coverage is compared to another. You can’t make comments like this based on your own vague perception of what you think….especially considering how biased you are (based on your post history).

there is no use saying things like this.

Tallis.5607:

Andy.9137

Losing respect for TC because of the pretentious attitude of it’s forum warriors. Although the backhand comments from FA make us look bad as well.

The (albeit subtle) difference is that these FA-people are trashing TC already for months and TC never really replied in the past.

But there comes a point when too much is too much.

For me, that point came when these FAers kept saying that they were better than TC… after TC won against FA 7 times in a row.

When FA looses 7 matches against TC and some FAers keep saying over and over and over AND OVER that FA is better than TC, you can not expect that TC just stays quiet and doesn’t react to these insults.

Sure, you can say ‘be the better person and let them insult you over and over’ and that is what TC did. For weeks and weeks and weeks.

But at a certain moment, too much is too much, even for nice and gentle RPers like TC.

Your view of wvw is extremely narrow minded. Winning and losing in wvw does not come down to the general skill level of that server. Saying “FA lost to TC 7 times therefore TC is better” is wrong. Truth is we will never truly know who is better because there is no chance at ever having a completely balanced week long match where the presence of players in all maps are exactly the same.

That is the truth.

Gturtle.2864:

Lanimal.6541:

We won this tier with our skill and not our numbers because we won it two weeks ago with inferior coverage to both Kaineng and FA. Yes, some of our key players had to play unhealthy hours (one commander still burnt out) but we did do it. So you can take all this unskilled garbage somewhere else.

The fact has always been that since kitten the IoJ guilds they have had superior coverage to us for AGES until recently (when we got the CD guilds) and yet they were only able to beat us once. There are many reasons for this;

- Your fair-weathers dissapear more easily; you dont do enough things to retain your PVE crowd (because obviously they suck and FA should only consist of awesome 1337 pvpers).

- Your understanding of the overall meta and PPT is god awful. Yes, this is a big part of strategy and skill. So. many. of. your. top. guilds play for such short-term goals not realizing what the consequences are going to be for attacking said targets and said borderlands 3 hours down the line. (Very bad for your oceanic/sea)

- There seems to be more of a inter guild competition on whose got the bigger kitten in FA (Hello BT and VK) than one that focuses on coordination (like TC and KA). Instead of having a meeting a week or emphasizing working together it seems its more ‘on the spot’ coordination. “Hey you guys are on this map!? We are too!?! Lets do this and this” – Like I said very short term.

Of course TC play for the PPT its how WvWvW is meant to be played. We don’t pretend to be a server whose personality is atypical to a 15 year old teenager going through a non-conformist rebellious stunt against their parents (ANET).

You should work on some of those things I posted above or you could pay for my transfer cost and listen to my advise like the word of god and I will fix ya server up and teach you how to win T2.

This is why us veterans of FA harbor so little respect for this incarnation of TC- you’re a server that used to have an admirable outlook- the ever humble TC militias! No large mega guilds fielding mega zergs just regular players banding together to get it done! Now you’ve become this over gorged self gratifying monstrosity. You don’t have anything figured out that FA or Kaineng (or any server above Tier 4) doesn’t know. You’re not out there crushing everything FA or Kaineng attempts due to some grand strategy. You have better coverage- that is not due to a lack of competence on FA or Kaineng’s part. Yet you’re here gloating as if you could provide tutelage to our WvW communities?

Sometime between this past December and now, TC sold it’s soul. Maybe Arena Net made them do it; but it’s done.

I have to agree with most of this…Losing respect for TC because of the pretentious attitude of it’s forum warriors. Although the backhand comments from FA make us look bad as well.

But come on, you have to accept that a huge portion of any server’s success in wvw is due to coverage. Trying to insist otherwise makes you look ignorant.

Sigh… “Our zerg is better than your zerg, we won with less coverage because we’re vastly superior to you, TC FA TC FA TC TC FA FA TC blahblahblahblahblah.”

When will everyone be quiet? If you take a moment to re-read these kind of posts, you should feel embarrassed. Both servers.

on a related note….

Silke.1695:

I would like to ask for the moderators to pin this to the top of the page for a few weeks if possible. It’s important enough to make sure it remains visible so that our respective communities can each participate. Might I even suggest cross posting a similar thread in the PvE areas?

Good on you guys! This was a really nice thing to do. It’s great to see the group of us come together when life gets real. Makes me proud to be a member of the GW2 community of players.

Good idea

RoninDB.9540:

I’ll donate $20 for this cause… but Holy Pickles and his guild have to dance with me naked or with a tonic on.. at the Windmill on FA BL this week. Jayne will bring the cookies. Whadda ya say?

Thanks for doing this, such a nice gesture, FA. I’m from New England. You made my day.

This can be arranged.

I’m pretty poor right now but I can chip in a maybe $10 or so.

kylia.4813:

Lanimal.6541:

You mean to tell me all 16 guilds that moved from IoJ to FA came to the decision on their own and just gathered their belongings and left IoJ. None of them had any conversations with representatives from BT / RET / HOPE etc? Or that the first IoJ guild to move over from IoJ to FA did not act as a proxy FA representative to convince the others to come on board as well?

Horses mouth here it comes.

When the first lot jumped ship I called an Oceanic meeting with whoever was online at the time. We were discussing where to go, the only person that suggested FA was me. Noone else, there were other choices, but I stood by my decision to go to FA, because AVTR had awesome fights with PRO (That night I created a guild called [PRO] Please invite me to party, and ran onto the FA BL to hopefully not get killed and talk to Pro. Lucky for me iBludgeon saw me was like “wtf?” then invited me to party. I asked them over to our TS server where the meeting was, to ask them what FA was like.
After talking for about an hour we thanked pro and wished them well (we were going to wait for the next day to talk to the remaining US guilds to see what they were thinking (they had sent me a mail earlier that day with their choices (none of which were FA, there was BG, SoS and Kn)

Just after PRO left he channel we get a message from ND advising us they are leaving right now. Realizing that it was the end, I told the rest of the guilds, “Its been a pleasure, but I’m taking AVTR to FA, its where I feel AVTR will settle in the best”

We left that night. most of the other guilds in channel had a chat and decided to follow.

The next day I get a message from some of the NA guilds, asking if we (AVTR) had already left, I told them we had and told them my reasoning to go to FA.
I managed to convince a few NA guilds to also come over.

Please note the following:

At no time was I approached by FA to join them.
All the reasoning given to the IoJ guilds to go to FA came from what I believed in, in regards to FA.
That reasoning was – Similar mindsets, the only server that had complimented AVTR on combat, the only server that we fought against that had the defend home BL first.

You can get this backed up by posts on IoJ as well as FA forums.

So please, please lets stop with this IoJ blah blah blah, FA recruit blah blah blah. And go back to the current matchup.

This pretty much answers the whole dispute about FA receiving guilds from IoJ. /end

Rawr.5930:

Escthiil.3210:

Rawr.5930:

Escthiil.3210:

Rawr.5930:

Escthiil.3210:

Rawr.5930:

Escthiil.3210:

Zerging isn’t our thing. So, no.

Yep just one of the super effective 15 man tactical squads right there

Sorry couldnt help myself :P

In all seriousness, FA has zergs, KN has zergs, TC has wtfbbqmegaZERGS.

We all zerg, so?

The most epic night of wvw i had i a long time was a couple of nights back in KNBL where TC had 40 in bay, with KN and FA outside, and we were outmanned.

Yes, outmanned with a 40 man zerg, suffice to say, the lag was epic.

But good lord was it a sight to behold, and thanks to both servers that made it happen, my only regret was not screenshotting that.

Let’s just have fun in this GAME, and get over the need for self affirmation ok?

Yeah, totally throwing out a “super effective 15-man squad” joke doesn’t make you funny or justifies anything you are about to say when you have no idea how we roll in WvW.

I also never mentioned FA has no zergs, so you don’t have to reinforce a point that was never contested. You yourself mentioned TC has “wtfbbqmegaZERGS”, so it does help explain my point that there is a higher chance of bumping into an allied zerg in TC. Which we are not fond of.

Nobody needed any self-affirmation. I made one statement that explained why we wouldn’t transfer to you guys. Quit with getting defensive.

Who made this the recruitment thread?

And thanking opponents for memorable nights is now being defensive?

I dont know about you, but i genuinely appreciate that people from all servers turn up to fight, cos if they dont, it’s no fun.

Perhaps some think it beneath them, but watching huge 80+ man groups charge into each other is one of the highlights of wvw for me personally.

No interest in recruiting you btw, dont think ive ever asked either

Hope you have fun in this matchup cos i know i will

No one. You started asking us, Corp, to go over. I gave one reason to explain why we wouldn’t. You decided to give me a couple of passages back, justifying whatever you had in your mind when I didn’t ask for it. That isn’t defensive? I don’t know what is, then.

No one said anything about people not turning up to fight. Your point is moot and is answering to nothing in question. Moving on.

Also, it can be your highlight all you want watching 80-man zergs charge into each other. At no point in my posts did I say zerging was WRONG. So once again, moot. I don’t know what you are trying to prove here.

I think you are confusing me with someone else mate.

Score update anyone?

TC is a whole, isn’t it? You will have to ask Niko.8901, then.

Then again, like I said, at no point in time did I claim that what TC is doing is wrong. So you honestly had no need to prove yourself or -coughs-, make self-affirming posts.

Sorry i cant speak for the hivemind, my borg implants do not have the required authorization.

Niko.8901 and i are not currently networked, unable to verify bzzzzt!

Self affirmation complete, purpose complete.

Locutus of Borg commands you to agree to…disagree.

Yes I have a score update right here. Topic score update update update topic.

I even threw in a map update.

Lanimal.6541:

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

Shrouded.6450:

It’s on point. He questioned your own actions and how you guys felt when took all those guilds from IOJ. Sure it ws on its way down, but you guys didn’t exactly help now huh?

IoJ was T1 server dominating for ages… Then along came the bandwagoners, and ruined our near instant queue times. What happened then? A majority of the great WvW guilds we had left, cause they were sick of the bandwagoners…. IoJ was already great, and suffered long before their second decline…. Please, know what you’re talking about before you run your mouth

And how is IoJ’s decline any different to CD’s? CD was a stellar server and has suffered from many guild exodus’s (three times so far If I am right). If you want to make the argument that they (CD) had settled in a tier they were comfortable in then so would have IoJ if FA just allowed to let them be and let IoJ drop a tier or two down and eventually they would have found a tier like T4 where they would have been competitive in as well.

There is no difference between FA’s acquisition of IoJ guilds and TC’s acquisition of CD guilds. If you remove the bias you will see that both instances are practically the same and arguing otherwise just means you are digging yourself a hole without having all the facts.

No…they aren’t the same.

Lanimal.6541:

You mean to tell me all 16 guilds that moved from IoJ to FA came to the decision on their own and just gathered their belongings and left IoJ. None of them had any conversations with representatives from BT / RET / HOPE etc? Or that the first IoJ guild to move over from IoJ to FA did not act as a proxy FA representative to convince the others to come on board as well?

Well….they decided to transfer without any coercing from us. Then they probably talked to some FA and I’m guessing we said sure and then….they came.

I think this is getting dragged on a little bit.

Niko.8901:

Andy.9137:

Urrid.4593:

Andy.9137:

The difference is that the IoJ guilds came to us. We didn’t approach them. I’m not too familiar with how KN got theirs…but the reason for this drama (at least my understanding) is that it became quite apparent (from quite a few posts now) that TC will gladly cripple other servers to make their server even bigger for that precious win.

Totally 100% not propaganda. Unvarnished truth!

Every word is gol…

BUT WE’RE FRIENDS.

Or do I need to smite you again?

EDIT: I dunno..my point still stands. We didn’t ask them to come :P

Pickle, I have a proposition for you… bring Corey and the rest of [Corp] to TC and I’ll give you…

a cat?

Urrid.4593:

Andy.9137:

The difference is that the IoJ guilds came to us. We didn’t approach them. I’m not too familiar with how KN got theirs…but the reason for this drama (at least my understanding) is that it became quite apparent (from quite a few posts now) that TC will gladly cripple other servers to make their server even bigger for that precious win.

Totally 100% not propaganda. Unvarnished truth!

Every word is gol…

BUT WE’RE FRIENDS.

Or do I need to smite you again?

EDIT: I dunno..my point still stands. We didn’t ask them to come :P

Transistor.8746:

Transistor.8746:

Been taking a break from the game for awhile while I enjoy other games, but I’ve been checking in to see how TC has been doing.

Just wanted to congratulate TC on their performance the past couple months. It’s awesome how the server came from (and still has) a carefree and silly attitude that attracts the PvE/RP playerbase to dip their toes in. It’s really cool to see the pugs make such a huge difference. It just goes to show that success in WvW starts with the community, and I really feel like TC has worked hard to establish that. That’s why from the start it has been a “good” server that has now become stronger and stronger gradually over time and I think that is what the server owes to its continued success. Not many bandwagoners/fair-weathers on TC and I think it’s really starting to show.

It’s kind of bittersweet though now that any continued success will be met with a promotion to T1. Kind of in a stomp/be stomped situation at this point, although the next major PvE content patch should shake things up in T2 again if TC is still there.

Anyway, congrats guys. Slow and steady wins the race.

Typed this a page back without reading the surrounding banter, but in retrospect i can see how this would come off as sarcastic. I really wasn’t trying to be. I’ve been following the scores but not the forum drama so much. I wasn’t aware that we apparently got transfers until now. But I’m not surprised. TC is a great server with a friendly community. I’m not sure what’s so bad about getting transfers to fill week time slots. KA powered from T8 to T2 on the backs of new guilds right at the start of paid transfers. And FA had a bunch of transfers to get into T2 a couple months ago. I guess if TC does it it’s not ok for some reason?

I’ve seen TC in Kain/FA’s recruitment threads talking about what good competitors you guys are and how you would be great servers to join as well. I don’t know why this can’t be civil. Even if we do get to T1 we’re gonna get smacked right back down. We’re gonna be with each other for a long time, might as well get friendly again.

The difference is that the IoJ guilds came to us. We didn’t approach them. I’m not too familiar with how KN got theirs…but the reason for this drama (at least my understanding) is that it became quite apparent (from quite a few posts now) that TC will gladly cripple other servers to make their server even bigger for that precious win.

lani.7431:

You mean this one?

snip

Well snap. I guess that would imply they wouldn’t mind intentionally obliterating a server to make theirs even bigger. Hehe

Deyja.6745:

Troop.1369:

Deyja.6745:

Quenta.2978:

Sunspots.9861:

Quenta.2978:

Gandalf The Grey.1058:

BT and VK: TRY HARDER on your BL to kill those naked K=towners. Hilarious. SMH.

It’s ok. If I was in RE and got wiped multiple times in my BL by BT, I would probably move to another BL too.

Speaking of which, did you change BL’s too? We saw a couple of you outside our spawn tower then suddenly you are outmanned here?

Wiped KN at hills, followed their group to Astral and wiped them. Did the guild mission thingy and we logged for the night.

I’m impressed by the coordination of your server, you managed to get all 100 people to do guild missions at the same time.

Been an easy week, lots of minecraft and dota 2. Hopefully reset will bring about more fights at least for a day or two.

If by fighting you mean do the pancake… lay flat on the floor with your loot bag beside ya. What I see when your guild is in front of me:

-Loot Bag number 1[pink]
-Loot Bag number 2[pink]
-Loot Bag number 3[pink]

Farm you again soon.

I fear you have the wrong guild, pink is a guild on your server. We are PiNK and if you’d like to try to fight us you’ll know which map we’re on by the lack of FA presence. Hopefully that clears up any misunderstandings!

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

Shrouded.6450:

Andy.9137:

Shrouded.6450:

So today, FA received news of transfers to our server.
In celebration of our new allies, we decided to take it to CD BL. We didn’t have a chance of pushing to take first this week with the reset tomorrow, but we wanted to send a very CLEAR message to CD.
Next week you’re in trouble.
FA is on the warpath.

Interesting stuff from the CD/IOJ/FA thread….This one is pretty intersting:

Diehard.1432:

Deathdom.8250:

9 guilds are transferring from IOJ to FA with 13 guilds total leaving so far. I hope IOJ will be able to recover from this. One major guild leaving is bad enough but that many all leaving at once?

IoJ is history now

Funny how you try and defend your own server with the “Just because some people say this, doesn’t mean we all support it” and then pull this kind of thing digging through months of old threads to bring up a post from a single person.

What did I say about FA? That post you reffered to was basically just a bunch of interesting quotes. Yea, let’s just all stop now eh?

It’s completely irrelevant and yes we should stop now.

Shrouded.6450:

So today, FA received news of transfers to our server.
In celebration of our new allies, we decided to take it to CD BL. We didn’t have a chance of pushing to take first this week with the reset tomorrow, but we wanted to send a very CLEAR message to CD.
Next week you’re in trouble.
FA is on the warpath.

Interesting stuff from the CD/IOJ/FA thread….This one is pretty intersting:

Diehard.1432:

Deathdom.8250:

9 guilds are transferring from IOJ to FA with 13 guilds total leaving so far. I hope IOJ will be able to recover from this. One major guild leaving is bad enough but that many all leaving at once?

IoJ is history now

Funny how you try and defend your own server with the “Just because some people say this, doesn’t mean we all support it” and then pull this kind of thing digging through months of old threads to bring up a post from a single person.

ykyk.2740:

We got 3 guilds after 8 months of having a gaping coverage hole (and 4 of those months getting our maps washed green routinely everyday in T2 due to said hole)

It’s not like Kaineng or FA have their BL washed a different colour everyday due to coverage gaps either

neomccoy.2657:

Lanimal.6541:

Haldunius.7864:

CHIPS.6018:

Thesilentflute.8761:

War Machine blackgate wants you! Come play with us in T1 we have a grand community that rewards the efforts of all of our battle worn solders. If is great fights you seek look no further there are fights to be had against the mightiest of enemy in foo and many others. We have high skill base but low numbers with your guilds help there is nothing that could stop us our glory Awaits.

The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it.-Thucydides

Well you guys better be prepared to pay, a lot. A server (I won’t name which) is promising premium dollars for WM, RISE, CO (and maybe others) to head over. I am talking about crazy out of this world money here. But they said no since they didn’t want to leave their Kaineng brothers.

Thanks for staying all! ^^

Oh come on now. Such juicy drama and you won’t share?! We can play hangman or something to guess the server.

Through process of elimination all signs would point to SoR.

1. Its not BG because the poster talking about the gold gossip eliminated them basically directing us to ‘another server’.

2. I highly doubt JQ would pay more gold for more SEA guilds? They have the most insane SEA in NA by a long shot anyway, I do not think their SEA guilds would want to deal with even more queue times than they already have.

This leaves us with SoR who are coming close to competing with JQ and all they need is more SEA/European. Also they have recently upped their recruitment and managed to get AFS and Tsym so they are probably going all out.

or it could be a European T1 server…

Believe it or not TC posted in RE forum recruiting us. I find it funny or maybe just a troll I dont know.

Well….they hardly need more people. They get their guaranteed win over FA without having to worry anymore. I still miss how close the matchup was.

Score and map update.

Sovereign.1093:

That Tough guardian in SW supply camp and his team of FA, I salute you. Strong fighters.

That would be us. We just got pushed off the map though. It was a good run

Hey look I found WM.

Aah nothing like soloing Bluebriar in TC BL because that TC zerg didn’t sweep for a lone guardian. xD

Tov.5780:

Andy.9137:

Tov.5780:

Andy.9137:

oxide.8324:

I did.

And I’ll do what I want, cheers~

That’s fine and all but I am just warning you because you can get banned for such posts.

I did not realize that, I went to report it and there was no option for it really…. No way to upload a video… which is really the only way to capture something like that.

Not sure really maybe they’ll let you link the youtube video. I’m not sure though.

Just really makes me mad… we have been struggling lately anyway… This is just silly, I have seen in map chat reports of 3 different classes hacking from this server int he past 10 minutes….. It’s ridiculous.

It’s probably the same group of players. I haven’t seen them but if I do I’ll report them as well.

Tov.5780:

Andy.9137:

oxide.8324:

I did.

And I’ll do what I want, cheers~

That’s fine and all but I am just warning you because you can get banned for such posts.

I did not realize that, I went to report it and there was no option for it really…. No way to upload a video… which is really the only way to capture something like that.

Not sure really maybe they’ll let you link the youtube video.

oxide.8324:

I did.

And I’ll do what I want, cheers~

That’s fine and all but I am just warning you because you can get banned for such posts.

Sunspots.9861:

AoN’s strategy is to run, unless they can win. We all know it. We basically ignore them till we know we can trap them and the rule is, if you die to AoN its because you weren’t where you were supposed to be. That’s why the zerg doesn’t bother turning around to save people. In an odd way, AoN strengthens the zerg.

I do think what they do is effective though, and certainly I have seen them kill larger numbers than themselves. When they are on the BL, we are very aware of it.

AoN’s strategy is to kite, not to run. "To lure a mob or player around while attacking or allowing allies to attack. " I don’t know what you mean by strengthen the zerg aside from maybe “what not to do when facing AoN”. They weaken the zerg enough until they are able to wipe everybody else safely (at least in my experience)…

RoninDB.9540:

If I see someone in Corp from FA – I’m going to join your group and hug you cuz the name Holy Pickle deserves so much love.

Deal

Obby Shards.9365:

It seems AoN has rubbed off on the rest of FA everyone running when they see a TC name.

Personally my experience roaming against TC has been quite the opposite. I never run from a fight unless the odds are ridiculously out of favor. And yet whenever we find an evenly sized group to fight, they run until they find more friends to try and beat us

I’m not generalizing an entire server though, that would be unfair. Don’t need to trash talk us.

EDIT: Also, I’ve ran with AoN a few times now. They kite strategically (and very well) against ZERGS. Us (5 people typically) kite 20-30 enemies waiting for an opportunity to kill some of them. The whole AoN trash talk thing is getting old. They’re an exceptional group of players.

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Littlefeather.8623:

“Whatever makes you feel better, I suppose. Our 5 man wipes anything less than 30 people. If you’re running more than 30 people, the simple fact that you’re sticking as a huge ball like that is a time sink on its own.”

What does a 5 man SPvP team accomplish in WvW anyway?, I mean seriously, besides supply camps and harrasing solo roamers…

They pretty much harass stragglers and pug zergs. They are pretty effective against unorganised groups that aren’t too big, but I feel like most of the zergs in this tier are too big for them to be able to do anything to.

I dunno. I roamed with 4 of them the other night and we were taking on zergs composed of a lot of the same guild tags. Other than that smashing other evenly sized groups that happened to cross our path. It was pretty impressive.

Whitebeard.5172:

Andy.9137:

Setsunayaki.4907:

Blrrgh.6908:

Looking for one week of the matchup thread that is not dominated by passive aggressive TC posters making condescending or misleading posts, or by my own FA even bothering to respond to these pompous winkittens.

Bottom line from the GM of a guild that has fought most of the best guilds in WvW, on either side of the NA/EU divide. You aren’t going to find any of them on TC.

A few of the terms that I see being thrown around here loosely are " classy" and “respect”, both definitions of behavior of which I have yet to see from the posts of the self appointed TC forum voices.

The funniest part of it all is that TC can’t afford to try the idiocy of the dolyak parade ever again, because PPT has overtaken their lives, the need to beat FA is in and of itself a fine reward, each call for reinforcements from an already huge server a quiet joke for the observant.

Oh, one final note…. TC posters, you can drop all the pretenses of how “nice you are”, we know you are in a win at all costs mindframe, and it’s ugly. And no, my guild isn’t interested in transferring to TC, so please have some self respect and just quit with the harassment.

Blrrgh
Armored FIST

Hi Blrrgh!

I know that niceness and kindness are two different things. Just because one person hugs you does not mean its love. I get it, I know the deal…etc! However, as far as FA’s gameplay goes, I can judge and observe because I did play a lot of WvW on the side of FA. I’ve played a lot this week on the side of TC…

If you wish to talk about non-PPT..Just killing players?

Daze on our group of five, decimated many groups of five. We aren’t the best in the world, but it also proves that some of the FA guilds are all talk, specially when talking about havok squads. Remember how you boasted to be better than TC? You aren’t! and we have to say that we are having an easier time killing most FA guilds on the field than we had at killing more TC guilds out there.

How about in the zerging? FA claims to be better and not zergball at all? Guess what…The only guild we have not consistently destroyed from a pure pug group lead by a commander this week has been BT, but…a commander with 50% of his force guild-members and the other 50% pugs, destroys BT consistently over and over again across the map.

You claim FA never gives up? More like TC does not give up. They are willing to go all seven days and not sleep on the job. If I want a break and do my daily, I can go to PvE where there are so many more players on the map that I can get things done while on FA most of the maps on PvE are empty outside of the high level maps or start zones.

Remember, half my guild is on FA and all I need to do if you make a “true” or “false” claim is to go ask them to check up on it and they will not lie to me on the matter. If you make a claim about TC, I am on TC now and can figure out and see truth over lie…

Finally, TC is cheerful enough with their antics on the field in WvW, but I love those antics because truth be told…yes! I have seen a lot more friendliness and kindness so far from TC than FA. In fact unlike FA, TC actually appreciates small guilds, their actions and effort.

Oh my gosh. “My group is better than your group, my zerg is better than your zerg, FA sucks blah blah”

When will you stop? If you want a challenging 5v5 I dare you to beat my group.

Chest thump more!

Pssst, Mister Pickle, I will let the cat out of the bag and I do it only because I like you.

Everytime AoN is seen on the map TC people simply say, just run right by them and get on with the task at hand. Whereas your group is good at running around with 8-10 players you are viewed as a non threat and a time sink to chase around to try and kill, so we don’t being almost always other things take president.

I don’t say this as a chest thumping kind of deal. I’m just letting you know why groups from 10-30 are passing you by without so much as slowing down to wave. TC views AoN as more of a havoc team that goes around contesting POI or taking camps, attacking stragglers and such. Kind of a weak tea but whatever floats your boats sirs.

Sorry I didn’t mean AoN. I meant my usual roaming group with Corp.

Score update. text text

Expunge.4926:

Jski.6180:

Zoja.2631:

Late night score update. No map because I’m tired and lazy, but most of it was green anyway.

<3<3 to both KN and FA. Great fights this week!

Ya it looks like FA has mostly given up meh we could of came in first this week but i guess the want to be in T3 is stronger then the will to win. I guess good job to TC getting to T1 soon i hope that what you wanted.

I don’t think FA has given up at all, I think FA is just doing what it has always done, having fun killing and not losing sleep over ppt. To be honest I think that attitude, while looked down upon or disagreed with by many, has allowed FA to survive situations that other servers have fallen apart under. In the long run FA is more sustainable that way, in my opinion.

Don’t understand why that attitude is looked down upon. Couple friends from TC casually told me they had like 2 hours of sleep from Tuesday to Wednesday just so they could pass FA.

It’s nice being in a server that hasn’t bandwagoned elsewhere even after losing for months. Enjoy the win, TC. Should be easier next week.

Contrary to what some people have been saying. No fa has not given up and never will. We’ve been pushed back hard the last two days for obvious reasons on your part and don’t believe many of us care that much.

DKNS.2135:

Shazirah.8350:

Andy.9137:

[Awe] spotted in TC already, guess they’re starting to move? According to a friend in CD these are the guilds that will transfer over.

[NAGA] 150 or so

[EsF] 300-400

[Awe] at least 200

Just what I’ve been told.

Hmm, you forgot Estaily: ~50.

Oh c’mon, every decent guild has like 400+ members but you will be hard pressed to find even100 active members in them. And out of that, not everyone will be transferring as well. So, i am quite sure that the number of transfers will be much less than these.

Stop exaggerating that we will get like 500-700 members. As someone who spent months in T1, if we can pull out those kinda numbers, then we are well above BG/SoR atleast in the SEA/Oceanic zone.

I said, “Just what I’ve been told”.

Shazirah.8350:

Andy.9137:

[Awe] spotted in TC already, guess they’re starting to move? According to a friend in CD these are the guilds that will transfer over.

[NAGA] 150 or so

[EsF] 300-400

[Awe] at least 200

Just what I’ve been told.

Hmm, you forgot Estaily: ~50.

Joy, I guess this means t2 will no longer be very balanced. Or whatever t4 was XD

[Awe] spotted in TC already, guess they’re starting to move? According to a friend in CD these are the guilds that will transfer over.

[NAGA] 150 or so

[EsF] 300-400

[Awe] at least 200

Just what I’ve been told.

CHIPS.6018:

LOL FA +45. Take that for stabbing our backs. Keep going after them TC. Love you guys.

Stabbing your backs?

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Andy.9137:

Couldn’t cap this camp and realized someone hiding up on this roof. How do you get up there?

From the little hut, an ele can RTL. Our warrior used a leap to get up there too to see if he could. Didn’t check if guardian leap can make it. It’s such a pain when that happens.

Well, he showed me. I got up as guardian so I guess you can. :P

Couldn’t cap this camp and realized someone hiding up on this roof. How do you get up there?

Kaineng! Go get your hills back and stop trying to take smc

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Jhawk.1360:

Bad TC that is our hills! :O We don’t take kindly to your 60 man zerg trying to take our hills GET OFF OUR LAND :P Good push though guys!

Now calm down skeeter, they ain’t hurting nobody….

It was all fun and games until I slipped off the bridge and into the +50 TC pit of death.

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

So why can’t you guys move the people from TC to FA just once out of 4 days? Or even just protect your own BL?

I know we frown on negativity but the sole reason FA is winning is because KN refuses to fight them. I also think KN would be in second if they would bring this match back to a fair 1v1v1. This is one of the first times I’ve seen a legitimate 2v1 but that’s absolutely what’s gone down this week. The last time KN has more than a tower and 2 camps on FA BL was Friday reset. You guys aren’t ‘teaming’ with FA but you’re blatantly avoiding which is just as bad and as far as I’m concerned, ruining the integrity of the tier. KN isn’t dead or dying, they’re just playing stupid. KN pushes TC, TC pushes KN by retaliation. The end result is FA > TC > KN.

I think it’s unfair to attribute the only reason FA is winning (currently) is because of a 2v1. I think FA is playing fairly well right now.

Had a great time again in TC BL with [Corp]. Time to take a break…and sleep.

Also I find it amazing how far people will chase you for the kill, I’ve been chased across the entire map far too many times haha.

Okay TC, I know you were frustrated while trying to kill me for awhile near our spawn in TC BL (1 against 15). When you did finally kill me, well done. Although please refrain from spamming /laugh as it comes across as quite hurtful.

Shera.7135:

Andy.9137:

Setsunayaki.4907:

To those at TC

Thank you for the warm welcome and everything so far.

~Shira Rae

I don’t understand why this post was necessary. All it has does is sparked drama, again. This matchup thread was doing wonderfully.

TBH the thread went to heck a while before this, with “hackusations” and other such nonsense.

Yeah but from what I saw on the posts with hack accusations, they were resolved fairly quickly, right?

Setsunayaki.4907:

Been a good start to a match up so far….

First thing is first!

Kaineng, you were my first home…Where I started. Thanks for catching up and not giving everyone else a heart attack. I like the integrity of Tier 2 to stay intact with three servers that can kill each other in a three way. So yeah, I would like to see RISE, WM and the guilds I’ve seen in KN fight! Please stick together and if you feel like burnout is coming, just take a break and organize. I do like fighting against you and am glad my first home, although changed is doing ok.

FA, you were my fifth home and quite a deceptive one at that. The more you spoke against TC, the more I wanted to see just how “Evil” TC was. It turned out that they have been so far the friendliest server I’ve come across this game. Not once did I ever see a TC player holding a banner saying “Kill All FA, they slaughtered our Yak Parade” and we did not receive a “Oh you’re FA, we don’t want you here” mentality upon joining…

You speak of maturity, yet you (FA) have involved others in your squabbles (the IoJ transfers into FA, along with anyone else…) acting like everyone should consider TC to be the fourth Reich, while considering anything that top FA guilds state as the Holy Grail and Truth…..

Ah and to those who still have some respect for me in FA:

“Thank you for everything. It was fun and it would be nice to see you in the battlefield as opponents, then we can whisper-chat about it. I’d like to see some of you at the kaineng dueling spot too. You were not evil, but my only tiny complaint is that while you told me the large guilds are eating FA out of their integrity, you didn’t do anything about it either. You represented FA on the battlefield, but let everything else get consumed. Never forget that your home is FA and if you can’t make it a better place, it is doomed to a miserable experience for others.

For better or for worse, I enjoyed running with Purple Dragons, Deep Penetrations, Armored Fist and Primordial Dragons (when they lived), as well as the many many small guilds we met on the field. FLOT was one of my favorites.

I hope to see you on the battlefield as my best friends followed the shooter mentality of killing each other and then talking about the great kills and fights we made against each other, all night long.

@TC, my new home….

You have been really friendly so far. I hope it lasts and I hope I can help. I’ve gone through life with many throwing friendly fronts at me that it takes time for me to trust others. I really like what I see in the server and I have not seen friendliness and kindness at that level in a really really really long time throughout this game.

While some FA guilds were kind in some time zones, there is a more unified kindness/friendliness pouring out of TC that makes things fun and more interesting.

To those at Kaineng….
Keep on playing and stay together…

To those at FA
Speak up and be heard. You deserve to be treated a lot better than you are being treated now. I hope we can kill each other and then chat about it.

To those at TC

Thank you for the warm welcome and everything so far.

~Shira Rae

I don’t understand why this post was necessary. All it has does is sparked drama, again. This matchup thread was doing wonderfully.

LaMisT.1863:

Baroness.9506:

Has been some awesome fights VS KN so far.
kitten shame that there has been some wall jumping or fly hacking from FA in EB BG.

Fort Aspenwood seem to be making good use of line of sight hacks and terrain exploits when using arrow carts. Best way, just get a quick video and also report them.

hacks or exploits should be reported and not posted here. Its not nice to brand a server because of a few players.

I dont think you will say “TC seem to be making good use of ballistas to block enemies from hitting every single npc in lowlands EB” just because one or two players does that.

Yeah, I totally agree. It’s not fair to use a server name so generally like that trying to associate them as hackers because of the actions of so few.