Guild Wars 2

Yeah it is, going to change soon, though.
20/25/0/0/25 is going to be new build after 10th dec.

I’m in for it.

Your 3 orb solo, anyway.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

I’d be curious to know what 3 fractal shards they got in a row that allowed them to duo it. Swamp seems challenging to duo, dredge virtually impossible, cliffside virtually impossible, uncategorized would be extremely rough, shaman theoretically possible, water definitely possible, and snowblind is possible.

So by what luck are we talking here whereby someone duo’ed a full fotm 79?

I’ve been talking about a fractal on scale 80, not a fractal level 80.
Which would be possible too. Aside from Old Tom, uncathegorized is a cake. Ascalon not worth mentioning, just extremely annoying and tedius, snowblind just takes some time, volcanic easily soloable until shaman (legendary), which might cause some troubles because of dps lack for the little elementals. Swamp and water again doable (mesmer).

Edit@Cookie: Wasn’t the discussion about duo’ing?

Aside from obals guide all guardian stickys are trash, especially that burning guide.

I might go for the warrior record once ascended armor released, gonna be a nice battle between us goku!

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

If two people can duo the supposedly hardest content in the game then this game has much bigger issues.

When two people can duo FotM 80, I’ll be in agreement with you.

Heck, when two people can full melee the Risen Priest of Melandru i’ll be in agreement with you.

The former already happened, the latter may soon. Unless you talk about the open world one, then both happened.

swiftpaw.6397:

haviz.1340:

This is how guardian dps build looks like in action:

http://youtu.be/PfmilDFq7yQ

Endless amount of burning, three allies and really fast fight. Though, this build is really hard to master, just one stunbreaker, no stability and rather hard to manage condition removal.

I’m sorry but this build upsets me (somehow)

Fixed that for you.

Carlos.9104:

10/30/0/30/0 is in my opinion, the most well rounded DPS build, closest to the current DPS meta (minus UC) but much more forgiving and versatile in terms of gameplay. If everyone and especially PUG begin to use it, I am sure that the overall quality of PUG players will increase significantly as it is the first step out of AH with high sustainability, condition removals and reasonably high damage (again, minus UC) because seriously, in these few days when I really really look at my boons during dungeon boss fights, I only see 4-6 unique boons at best in every party and the shout “Save Yourselves” only last this long.

I could go on, but I’m kind of done. I want to think of my playstyle as one of a teamplayer. You can travel faster solo, but you will certainly travel further in a group.

The damage of UC is superb, Purging Flames and Absolute Resolution are very nice to remove conditions. I however, do not want to re-spec every time I do dungeon, wvw and open world events. I recognise the merits of 10/30/0/5/25 and the damage this build offer has no challenge, and so is its ability to provide boons though on a relatively long cooldown and I am genuinely happy to know that there are very pro players that can keep Aegis up 90% of the time. I am however, not such a near perfect player like you guys are. I dodge and I do make mistakes here and there, but I can try. I no longer have a group that can do record breaking runs, but I make do and lower my expectations.

To sum up, I am not making a meta DPS build. I am introducing a very forgiving DPS build that is not exactly effortless but at least provide a less steep learning curve build that can be used by anyone lazy or otherwise and still remain somewhat competitive enough if the individual cannot afford the time to learn boss telegraph from experience to keep Aegis up. Of course 10% boon duration and UC/MoC from 0/30/0/30/10 is a very strong contender, but 100 power and 10% damage from Zeal is very enticing as well. Do not forget that consecration can be used untraited. Traiting for it lowers cooldown and improve uptime. If fights end as fast as this forum seem to claim, then is the 2 second extra from MoC even necessary? Not everyone melees in PUG and there is a good chance they will not listen to a mere player in a group (I melee exclusively) and shouts are in my humble opinion, easier to keep buff on ranged party members; I just want to have a build that is prepared for all situations.

The herd mentality is very strong in this forum. With this, I will end my wall of flamebait text and change my current build from the meta back to 10/30/0/30/0. I apologise to hardcore critics in advance for failing to comply with the meta due to the above reasons.

Nice summary, although you might want to consider chaning to x/x/x/x/10 for a few dungeons like CM or Arah, especially when pugging.

I don’t understand.

I don’t understand.

Dynnen.6405:

Anicetus.1253:

Dynnen.6405:

Anicetus.1253:

Brutaly.6257:

Dub.1273:

Amins.3710:

Anicetus.1253:

Amins.3710:

spoj.9672:

We arent dedicated pvpers or wvwers so were not experts though!

Spot On.

Glad this is finally clarified.

./grin

I’ve got nothing else. Sorry.

PS: Keep em coming Silent. Look at all the free press you’re getting! woot woot

I like your youtube channel, seeing random dodges makes me giggle.

People who think they’re random make me giggle. :=]

PS: Don’t forget to subscribe!

Yeah, got to dodge without any attacks incoming, in order to make sure to be out of endurance when something comes, so you can facetank it!

Its wvw he dodges in and in that format there are several obvious reasons to dodge besides avoiding damage. So no need to be condescending/smug/sarcastic, why not instead ask him why he dodges with no incoming damage.

Because of the obviously incoming hits a second later. He might accidently dodge them by hesitating, if he had endurance.

In www there are plenty of reasons to dodge when an attack is not coming. Healing allies taking damage while attempting to stomp, close/open ground between you and an enemy while having soft cc on you, give yourself a little healing prior to stomping a player. I know these may seem foreign to a pve casual, where pve attacks come telegraphed or easily predictable; but the dodges aren’t random =D

I’d suggest you to actually watch his videos, i had one in mind where he and someone else were at some camp, no enemies shooting him. Two dodges at full health. They engange and because he has no endurance left he facetanks. But hey, PVT armor exists for a reason... i guess?

Thanks for calling me a casual by the way, really appreciate it.
I really like how wvw’ers are looking down to pve’ers.

On a serious note: thanks for explaining all that, not that i needed it, that’s common sense. Just like dodging obvious animations like pin down should be. I feel like too many (pretty much all) wvw’ers forget about dodging important stuff. I can understand it isn’t needed in zergs or blobs but that results in a problem when they encounter pve’ers with offensive builds.

Only "look down" on people that think pve has any real difficulty past the first 4 times you run an instance, dungeon, etc. Try EQ1 or maybe even classic wow starting at AQ 40 and beyond if you want something a little less challenging lol. This game’s pve is quite stale.

Beating pve content requires almost zero skill, but beating 99% of all wvw players doesn’t take any skill either. It’s all about the challenges you set yourself. Super Mario 64 wasn’t exactly hard, took me about a week to play through it the first time. Completing it in 5-6 minutes instead, requires more skill than anything in this game ever could.

Silentstorm.7531:

@Anicetus you seem to like to complain a lot. I already explained why so have others. You don’t have to agree but don’t complain all day about it either. I along with others are going to do what we do. I’ll say it for the last time. You hold no station over anyone else to judge. If I want to use dodge freely I will get over it. Like I said above go make your own post. And you can complain about play styles all day in it.

Because it’s obviously no matter what anyone says. You just want to troll and argue.

I neither troll nor complain. I’m all serious about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyTFB_dfblw

Pingpong! But hey, dodged one hammer smash before the animation started. I’ll take that as you being a seer.

Dynnen.6405:

Anicetus.1253:

Brutaly.6257:

Dub.1273:

Amins.3710:

Anicetus.1253:

Amins.3710:

spoj.9672:

We arent dedicated pvpers or wvwers so were not experts though!

Spot On.

Glad this is finally clarified.

./grin

I’ve got nothing else. Sorry.

PS: Keep em coming Silent. Look at all the free press you’re getting! woot woot

I like your youtube channel, seeing random dodges makes me giggle.

People who think they’re random make me giggle. :=]

PS: Don’t forget to subscribe!

Yeah, got to dodge without any attacks incoming, in order to make sure to be out of endurance when something comes, so you can facetank it!

Its wvw he dodges in and in that format there are several obvious reasons to dodge besides avoiding damage. So no need to be condescending/smug/sarcastic, why not instead ask him why he dodges with no incoming damage.

Because of the obviously incoming hits a second later. He might accidently dodge them by hesitating, if he had endurance.

In www there are plenty of reasons to dodge when an attack is not coming. Healing allies taking damage while attempting to stomp, close/open ground between you and an enemy while having soft cc on you, give yourself a little healing prior to stomping a player. I know these may seem foreign to a pve casual, where pve attacks come telegraphed or easily predictable; but the dodges aren’t random =D

I’d suggest you to actually watch his videos, i had one in mind where he and someone else were at some camp, no enemies shooting him. Two dodges at full health. They engange and because he has no endurance left he facetanks. But hey, PVT armor exists for a reason... i guess?

Thanks for calling me a casual by the way, really appreciate it.
I really like how wvw’ers are looking down to pve’ers.

On a serious note: thanks for explaining all that, not that i needed it, that’s common sense. Just like dodging obvious animations like pin down should be. I feel like too many (pretty much all) wvw’ers forget about dodging important stuff. I can understand it isn’t needed in zergs or blobs but that results in a problem when they encounter pve’ers with offensive builds.

Silentstorm.7531:

Hey now we gotta have something.
We already slow, no fast range, lowest healers, lowest hp, traitlines badly optimized…
Can we at least dodge when we wanna lol……

Guardian is the fourth fastest profession in the game, yet far away from being slow.
Fast range is useless, speaking of PvE. Healing is close to useless, speaking of PvE. Huge HP pools are useless, except for WvW. I agree about the trait lines, though. They should take crit damage away from valor and put it into radiance or zeal. Aswell as taking out vigor of honor and probably placing it as grandmaster in virtues or into 15 in zeal. That would obviously hurt hammer builds, but if you just swap the vuln from symbol trait to 5 in honor, nothing would have changed.

This might cause a permanent ban, better delete the 5th last word.

Include PotV and you’re at least as effective as one with 10/30/0/30/0 but have more boon duration, quicker virtue recharge, gain an immense dps boost at *most*, not *a few very specific* encounters *and* get more condition removal if required plus higher consecration uptime, resulting in better "support".

Infractions definitely expire (with 230 infractions I’d probably have more than a 30 minute limit between two posts) but it takes a while. Not sure if punishment expires, signatures do return, though.

Thank you Mr. Wethospu.

That doesn’t work, they’ll instead ban you for 5 weeks old polite posts.

Yeah, already did. Aswell as saying any single word about moderators work (or "criticizing it") will get you banned.

There is nothing like freedom of speech in korea.

Atse? Ban incoming.

Brutaly.6257:

Dub.1273:

Amins.3710:

Anicetus.1253:

Amins.3710:

spoj.9672:

We arent dedicated pvpers or wvwers so were not experts though!

Spot On.

Glad this is finally clarified.

./grin

I’ve got nothing else. Sorry.

PS: Keep em coming Silent. Look at all the free press you’re getting! woot woot

I like your youtube channel, seeing random dodges makes me giggle.

People who think they’re random make me giggle. :=]

PS: Don’t forget to subscribe!

Yeah, got to dodge without any attacks incoming, in order to make sure to be out of endurance when something comes, so you can facetank it!

Its wvw he dodges in and in that format there are several obvious reasons to dodge besides avoiding damage. So no need to be condescending/smug/sarcastic, why not instead ask him why he dodges with no incoming damage.

Because of the obviously incoming hits a second later. He might accidently dodge them by hesitating, if he had endurance.

Scruffles <3

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Anicetus.1253:

TheGuy.3568:

Anicetus.1253:

10/30/0/30/0 can’t deal more damage than 10/30/0/5/25 in any case. It will always be less or even, assuming zero boons.

How did you get to that conclusion.

25 in virtues, power of the virtuous.

You’re welcome.

Edit: It’s always less.

This is assuming an organized group or well put together PUG.

Most of the PUGs I’ve been in don’t give me 9 perma boons.

This also sort of counters your own statement of saying its more DPS with zero boons.

1 boon is enough to out dps the 30 honor spec.

TheGuy.3568:

Anicetus.1253:

10/30/0/30/0 can’t deal more damage than 10/30/0/5/25 in any case. It will always be less or even, assuming *zero boons.*

How did you get to that conclusion.

25 in virtues, power of the virtuous.

You’re welcome.

Edit: It’s always less.

10/30/0/30/0 can’t deal more damage than 10/30/0/5/25 in any case. It will always be less or even, assuming zero boons.

@Carlos, you’re mostlikely better off dodging an attack instead of tanking it with aegis. 20% damage is huge, especially when you might have more than 20 seconds time to dps afterwords. About how to keep it up there isn’t a specific secret, it just comes down to learning whatever encounter.

I never use Absolute Resolution, a pretty wasted trait once all your party members are good at solo play.

You’re misusing my slipstream

deSade.9437:

spoj.9672:

deSade.9437:

spoj.9672:

I just shout YOLO and run. Works everytime.

Holy bear is watching you.

Im still waiting for you to severely discipline your bear!

He’s a good boy, you just startled him, thought you were a risen. Probably because of the smell.
See, all these filthy elitists not realising that a bear is so op it can oneshot you…
/evil laugh

You never know what a bear is capable of until you see mine. Wiped all 4 other party members with killshots several times in one run

Carlos.9104:

Seriously, is there anyone that can keep aegis up for more than 5 seconds?

About 90% uptime on it, so yes.

You can just take an average, you can’t calculate real dps anyway since that is just rng.

@fade: You seem to use unscathed contender as 0% increase, why? In arah p2 as example it has 100% uptime at brie, abomination, 50-100% at lupicus, 80-100% at alphard and 100% at brie. In arah p3 100% at crusher/hunter, 100% at mage crusher, 50-100% on lupicus and well, about 10-30% on wraithlord if he likes you.

Also the assumptions (might, fury) widen or smaller the difference between builds.
With high power but low precision, RHS is extremely strong, assuming perception stacks, banner and fury it’s almost worthless and with spotter it has zero effect.

Problem: You forget about stacks/food/etc. and seem to make "weird" assumptions. 10/25/0/0/25 is definitely more damage than 20/30/20/0/0.

I’m usually having two set utilities on a profession and a third avriable one. Swapping in Balanced Stance (Warrior), Stand your Ground (Guardian), Mantra of Stability (Mesmer) or Mist Form (Ele) in there. There’s exaclty two times you have to dodge deadeyes, save up stability on mes for those. As a warrior just pop it when the first deadeye targets you, 8 seconds are enough. The skip is perfectly doable without locking useless utilities on a long cooldown in.

haviz.1340:

I haven’t got a single fumble in over a week.

You haven’t been online a single time for over a week.
I probably had around 100 fumbles or other dodge bugs, just today. Then i went chronomancer and kept teleporting around, wasn’t even able to walk from wp to lupi without luring the half room. Funny for my stream, which was working flawless all time...

@Weth: Really? Not even when using Axe #2? It’s like a 99.5% guarantee for a fumble.

Amins.3710:

spoj.9672:

We arent dedicated pvpers or wvwers so were not experts though!

Spot On.

Glad this is finally clarified.

./grin

I’ve got nothing else. Sorry.

PS: Keep em coming Silent. Look at all the free press you’re getting! woot woot

I like your youtube channel, seeing random dodges makes me giggle.

I’d like to see people melee stacking against the AC troll.

Yeah all those people ranging Colossus, Howling King, Ghost Eater, Adelbern, Belka, Abomination, Tequatl, Melandru, Grenth, Orrian Spiders, Risen Elementalists, Risen Berserkers, Wraithlord, Lupicus, Balthasar, etc. are really stupid, chosing the hard way!

Oh. Wow, i honestly didn’t know that.

Why not? The life stolen scales with your defense and a rabid nec obviously takes less damage than a berserker necro.

I might misinterpret PBAoE but this is what i found as definition:

Point blank area of effect (abbreviated PBAoE) refers to skills that affect anything within a radius centered around the user...

Edit: Where did your posts go O.o

Berner.7289:

Anicetus.1253:

Aswell as Flashing Blade isn’t a PBAoE, why would you ever blind bosses to increase your dps? Applying vulnerability, yes. Still doesn’t improve your personal dps.
Flashing Blade does not only have an aftercast, but also precast and cast time.

1. It most certainly *is* a PBAoE blind. 100% guar-an-teed. Just tested again. Will affect up to 5 mobs, as with all AoE spells. Try it yourself.

2. You don’t put Flashing Blade in your rotation for DPS; you put in for the benefit of your group. The benefits of an AoE blind -- especially when traited for vuln -- should be obvious. One skill: up to 5 mobs blinded _and_ with 10 seconds of vulnerability. No brainer.

3. It has no cast time, and can be cast on the move. There is a short animation delay (due, I suspect, to the teleport), and a short aftercast, neither of which have any material affect on a sound rotation.

1. It blinds only mobs it also damages and it is a sword strike, no PBAoE. It won’t hit enemies behind you, at least from what i can tell.

2. Dolan has been asking for a DPS rotation, not for something beneficial to the group support-wise. Also blinding bosses (80%+ of all fights) is pretty useless.

3. It has a cast time.

Thanks for the work, i didn’t really watch it but the structuring looks great and i’m sure you’re capable of summing all important aspects up better than i could.

Done

I honestly can’t think of one mob that isn’t doable with 1 hand on range. Especially spider queen and alphard. Even illusionists become easier on range and thats about the only mob where distance doesn’t matter.

Yup, i also get kicked through WA from time to time, WA being on 5 seconds cooldown then.

Edit: Why the kitten do i have flood control now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YiIoC7QiLE

Aswell as Flashing Blade isn’t a PBAoE, why would you ever blind bosses to increase your dps? Applying vulnerability, yes. Still doesn’t improve your personal dps.
Flashing Blade does not only have an aftercast, but also precast and cast time.

Good job, although i liked the berserker ones more.