Guild Wars 2

Either i’m mistaken but can it be that they stealth nerfed it with todays patch?

Anyone else noticed something?

Warrior and Guardian are and will forever be the gods of PvE.
For WvW, you can pick anything but ranger and necro. Playing mesmer there is pretty fun though because theres nothing a mesmer cant do and many things only he can, like mass aoe quickness and teleporting and mass confusion and whatnot.

But yeah, if you like damage, beeing a credit to the team in dungeons or events and ranged play, pick a warrior.

Then play a Rifle/Longbow warrior.

Come back in 2-3 years, maybe by then they realized how kitten ranger is.

Don’t play ranger.

You forget that people who defend ranger are the ones who post into those kinda threads, so the 100 other people who would actually tell you to not do it just ignore this thread.

You will regret it after you get your exotic gear that you wasted those many hours for leveling and grinding dungeons.
Switch to a real class. Ranger is something you keep for farming ori nodes or something like that.

naphack.9346:

They now need to rebalance quite a bit of skills around the new quickness values, ESPECIALLY for ranger.

Hahaha
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Hahahaha

Implying they will ever buff ranger in any form. They are so kitten lazy they will just leave it as it is. You can bet your money on it.
No time to rebalance things, better get those ranger nerfs going for the next patch, this time, it will be trapper.

wauwi.9162:

in dungeons, i’m usually the last one who dies, tho i, as a ranger, of course get all the aggro.

“a survivability that is almost as good as a memser.
a DPS that is almost as good as an ele.
a defense that is almost as low as a marshmellow.
a bunch of spirits, which are almost completely useless.

- almost jack of all trades…even the useless ones: Ranger"

Wether you die or not is irrelevant. A warrior that dies 5 times more than you still does 50 times your dps, so i’d take a kitten 2 clicking warrior anytime over a useless as kitten ranger who can’t do anything else anyway but maybe staying alive. When the warrior is alive, he’s at least useful.

You compare the dps to an ele, which has already low dps like many other classes, why not compare it to thief, mesmer or warrior? And no, it’s not nearly the same.

Defense is the only thing we have, but that’s not needed anyway in dungeons. You go full zerker and rush it, that’s how you play it.

Spirits only almost useless? Have you ever seen one using it? Even the anet drones and defenders in this subforum who defend this broken and kitten class all day long don’t use it.

Ranger is not a jack of anything but a jack of kitten.

And who are you to tell us what we have to do?
Anything related to ranger goes here, wether into the bug section that doesn’t get read anyway, like this subforum, or here is up to us.
Wannabe moderator.

Yes you sure will outrun people with 25% speed signets and perma swiftness.
Good thing we have that overpowered leap, it will totally save us if we use it right.

Infernia.9847:

Can anyone point me to a viable LB/GS build for WvW?

If you want to play longbow play warrior.
Comes with a 6-8k nuke, aoe exploding blind kitten, immobilize for a trillion hours and a fire combo field as big as colorado oh and even more aoe fire.

Who the kitten uses greatsword?
I laugh at everyone who attacks me with that thing. People who use it do only one thing, show that they are weak as kitten.

Dojo.1867:

Arekai.5698:

Chopps.5047:

This is a thread for remarking on the positive changes rangers have and the builds they enable.

But there are no positive changes and there haven’t been positive changes in the last 6 months and there will never be positive changes?
This thread is pointless.

QQ Mooooooom, I didn’t get the buufffss I waaaaaanted.

One day you might stop crying and actually open your eyes because there ARE positive changes. It is fun to see how maybe 10% of ranger players in this forum actually have the ability to get over it and try out the stuff that got buffed. 90% do nothing but cry like babies.

Let’s play a game.
You show me positive changes.
I show you negative changes.

You in? I’ll start. BWE 1, 50% damage nerf on greatsword.

Your turn.

Here are my speculations.

Nerfing Ranger means:

1. Bots die faster, kill more slowly >> Less income of materials poured into the trading post >> higher prices for materials that are needed to rush-level Characters and materials that are needed for legendaries >> People have to grind more, thus, play more to make up for the loss or buy gems >> Players keep playing and money keeps flowing for Anet

2. People switch to other classes >> Have to level up again >> New gear, new needed playtime, new money you have to spend, and so on >>

3. Less People play this class >> Less need to fix it >> Able to focus on much played classes >> Greater amount of people that are happy with the patch

Fact that backs up 1: They have so called “economy analysts” that look on data and guess how it would affect the trading post. They sure as hell wont tell that it’s a good idea to buff bots.
Backup for 2: Reading the Forums, for the majority (PvE) everyone switches to Warrior and Guardian.
Backup for 3: Warrior gets buff after buff, pleasing nearly everyone who plays PvE at this point.

Did i forget any point that prevents them from doing so?

KensaiZen.3740:

2 skills that do pretty much NO damage. its not a DPS weapon.

By that logic, rangers actually have no dps weapon.

Because we are not warriors.

Chopps.5047:

This is a thread for remarking on the positive changes rangers have and the builds they enable.

But there are no positive changes and there haven’t been positive changes in the last 6 months and there will never be positive changes?
This thread is pointless.

What?

RummyTheMad.7290:

Since that change to quickness affects all classes equally, we can safely call it a non-factor when comparing changes.

You have as much clue about this game as Anet it seems, and that would be none.

Don’t compare Blizzard to Anet because Blizzard actually knows a thing about balance and game development.
They have stuff like aoe damage reduction for pets that we will never get.

No, because it means yet another big nerf to ranger.

JonPeters.5630:

As we played with the stealth changed mentioned in the SotG, we recognized that in conjunction with the change to culling this was an unpredictable change to make. We also felt that it was too big of a hit to these stealth professions, so we ended up pulling that change in favor of just increasing revealed duration by 1 second.

Hey Jon, if you care so much about your precious thieves, how about us rangers? When do we get some love from you? We are rotting for months now.

Mrbig.8019:

Wooyadeen.6491:

Mrbig.8019:

the thief is not OP, it’s probably one the weakest 1vs1 fighter along with the necro, in current meta, and is worthy only in a coordinated team environment and still a lot less worthy than most other classes aside the war.

I guess you’re right.

But back to the topic. Invisibility is not invulnerability. Even if you’re invisible, you’re still there and can take dmg.

But why, If both stand at same spot (touching each other), why can’t I know that he is there? If we are so close (almost sharing spot) I should be aware of it. In some other game when you are so close Rogue is 95% transparent (not fully invisible).

the issue here is different.

example:

Ranger starts rapid fire ( 5 secs channel)

i stealth during its channel.

Ranger keeps following me, sending arrows at my location, like if i never stealthed. Even if i strafe. Even if i dodge. No matters what i do, the channel won’t end till its full duration, like if the ranger was some kinda of hypersensitive.

This is beyond any possible logic.

And now, after last patch pet tracking change, pets/illusions/minions/whatever follow you and HIT YOU even after you’ve stealthed.

Ah, obviously, just like channeling, any other action STARTED BEFORE a char actually stealths, will follow you and HIT YOU in stealth ( just think how FUN is to receive a 6k heartseeker from a thief in this situation).

Once you learn how to deal with stealth ( aka: at good levels), all these gamebreaking issues are very , VERY relevant, even more since a thief is forced to build glass cannon to be somehow useful in a team, and you explode by simply being looked at with more passion.

Awwww you baby thieves sure have it hard! All those mean 300dmg arrows from ranger!

Suck it up thieves.
Look how kittenty the rangers came out.

The only 2 balance designers play warrior.
Just saying.
If one of them were a Ranger, we would be strong and we would have fun with our class.

Before thinking about visual pet progression, how about bugfixes and buffs first?
Who the kitten still plays ranger?
Let me guess… 5% of the original ranger player base? No-kittening-body.

Doesn’t surprise me
even
one
bit.

Anet kittens on the ranger class every month. It’s more common than buffing warrior.

It hit’s beastmaster rangers the hardest again because swapping pets was a good opportunity to be actually helpful in pvp but no.
kitten rangers
DESTROOOOOOOY THEEEEEEEEEM
- Anet

Wow, it’s kittening nothing.

Well practically, you can pick anything you like, except ranger, necro and engineer.

You are a thief, you deserve no answer from anyone.
You are already given the most broken mechanic in any game out there, and that in a fashion that’s blatantly overpowered because of ridiculous uptimes.
Other games, where the game developers actually know a thing about balance, have restrictions like slow movement speed or reveal on hit. Be happy.

You should get nerfed into the ground like ranger.

KensaiZen.3740:

Which class can bring 60 minutes of protection and 10% dmg boost AND burning on attack whilst specing for Damage? not to mention the massive healing from healing spring and pets.

That right there, is a support style that requires NO TRAITS. Which class can do that?

Let me tell you a simple combo that you may want to use. Use the torch 5, then use LB2 and fire into a group of people. Make sure you have piercing arrow and eagle eye traited. Watch the numbers each shot adds burning duration. Same with other combo fields.

You can build however you want and still be able to use most of the utilities without reduction. You can change skills and play style at will mid way through dungeons. Without having to be forced into 1 build.

Rangers are so versatile. Not all people who play them are. This is the issue.

About what game are you actually talking?

People found out how to make the ele gamebreakenly overpowered.
Tankier than guardians while dishing out good damage, having the mobility of a mesmer with a 3 second cooldown teleport .
Not playing tanky ele gimps you.

Before i use my pets, can you please fix them first?

Roll a Guardian or even better, a Warrior.
Delusional people will try to convince you otherwise with hundreds of words but that wont change anything. It has been like that from the start of the game.

Ursan.7846:

Rangers do the most single-target dps from ranged.

Ranged AoE? I’m not sure.

kitten trolls these days.

B2T: Maybe mesmer with 3 pistol phantasms up or Warrior, like always, when it comes to dps.

ProphetSword.5427:

Another thing you can do to create a good solid password is to think of a phrase that you can remember and then turn that phrase into a password containing letters and symbols. These are far harder to crack and are less likely to have been used before.

Example: “Jack and Jill went up the hill!”

Password translation: J&Jw^th!

Ye i’m sure Jack went up when beeing on the hill with Jill…

I wouldn’t have bought it in the first place.
I would’ve waited 2-3 months, watching what people say, thus, even then i wouldn’t have bought it.

I will give you a better list that’s actually 100% accurate.

PvE-Tier: Warrior, Guardian
Not-PvE-Tier: Everything else

Theres a reason this game is called Guardian Warriors 2.

Awwww.
How cuuuute.
Thieves complaining that their stealth isn’t broken enough.
Wait, shhhh, let Anet fix this for you, so you babys can frag more with your 1337 skills while beeing invisible 90% of the time.

Switch classes or play another game.
Anet can’t balance/fix for kitten, even though we ask for those ranger fix/buffs since the start of the game.

Mosharn.8357:

the pvp in this game doesnt feel hardcore :/

Because 90% of the time you chase invisible players and wait for them to unstealth.
There will never be action in this game with such bullkitten mechanics that solely rely on waiting.

More Ranger nerfs.

Well if you’re asking if anything got better: no.
Classes inbalanced as ever, added gear treadmill, more grind. still no kitten given about wvw players or pvp players and pve is still a kittenfest with guardians and warriors allowed only.

Save it for the gear treadmill they will implement the coming years.

Love how people will defend this kitten class for eternity. Anet could poop into their mouth and they’d say it’s vanilla ice cream.

“Hey, rangers make no ranged damage…” – LOL BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO
“Hey, rangers make no melee damage either…” – hahaha, silly you, rangers are supposed to be ranged, not melee!

When i recently had some fun in the jumping puzzle in World vs World modus i came across this bug, if it is one. If not, it’s still a serious balance issue.

I was running a somewhat tanky build with as much stealth as possible and there were 2 warriors and 1 staff elementalist here, so i tried 1vs3ing them. Things were going smooth and they somehow never attacked me, swinging their swords into some direction even when i was long out of stealth, but that’s not the problem.

The problem is, when using a stealth skill like smoke field or shadow refugee, they were able to spot me. The warriors sometimes were able to hit me while i was invisible and even the elementalist was able to attack me, only because they saw my skills and knew where i was.

I think those skills (stealth skills) should not be visible to non-thieves or in general. I am a thief, an assassin and you don’t see assassins using something, you are only supposed to see them the moment you die. That’s how it works and it should really get looked at from Anet.

We are already squishy enough and we have no overpowered pets like Ranger or Turrets like Engineer or something like that, so i think this buff or rather fix would be justified.

Rangers are a jack of nothing, maybe poop, but that’s it and that’s also why no answer will be right to your question.

Greatsword was as strong as how it should be during the closed beta.
Anet, kitten as they are, nerfed it by like 50% or something and never looked at again. So the poop what’s left over today is another one of the many useless weapons of ranger.

I already almost completely stopped playing this kitten game. Ranger is also my main but seriously. I’ll try PvE again after 1-2 years.
Currently playing other games and just hoping that Anet finally comes to their senses.