Guild Wars 2

Nutmeg eh. Karma vendor item, awesome.

February? Getting a consensus for a MESSAGE?

Yeah, wvw is pretty much dead…

Is there anything else I need to get for these recipes? Saffron? Chocolate? Butter?

Eggs doing weird things again.

I wonder if I think make it do even weirder things. Time for a test.

Predator.7321:

I hate guilds that hop around and boost servers to where they shouldn’t be only to have them get pummeled

Thank you for insulting all of SoS.

BroScientist.9875:

Be happy you have ques. Means you’re server is bustling:)

He is a server?

ComeAndSee.1356:

Fun match, but my only complaint is why the maps aren’t slammed full. Seeing outmanned debuff in Tier 1 is just sad.

Lack of support from Anet combined with blatant exploiters, etc means people just stop bothering.

Stop pretending you are not OP and broken, thieves.

Rock Solid means 30 points in Earth, and you really need to couple it with 30 in Arcane for the quick Earth attuning. It is just flawed, especially when compared to the Earth signet traits.

Morfedel.4165:

I get the impression that the most common concensus is that the thief IS OP, but only because of the culling issues, and once the culling is fixed, there shouldn’t be the same kinds of complaints.

Does that sound about right?

Culling just makes it worse. Even without it, thieves are beyond OP.

Stealth is insanely overpowered, and it only gets more ridiculous when you add healing and condition cleansing into the equation. Thieves are just a broken class and probably need to be redesigned.

Can finally log into the game and forums. Time to see how badly WvW was affected by this downtime.

Good. It needed to go back up.

Cover Girl.2580:

Somewhat good news just released about our moderator and forum issues:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/forum/Forum-Update-Notes-December-6-2012

Finally.

There is no cannon part.

Eggs going up again. I bought a few hundred a few weeks back just in case, fortunately.

No. Bank and bag slots cost gems, which kills all arguments for this being positive.

I cannot believe I just saw some guy say welfare precursors without sarcasm…

Malcastus.6240:

Huzzah for the devs. Nice to see them respond to matters, even though many a glass of whine from the ele forum, must be revolting.

Pleasant change. Kudos!

Not as ‘revolting’ as this post…

tluv.5821:

ComeAndSee.1356:

Only way for SoS to survive is they have to earn enough points in US prime time to survive the night.

You guys have zero coverage issues. I get on at 2:30 am EST and you guys are dominating the playing field. This still keeps happening well into the time I get off usually around 5:30 EST.

No coverage issues. You guys are not going to have a problem. The only problem you would have is if SBI and JQ suddenly had their queues filled up 24/7 which has happened in a long time.

Of course we have coverage at Oceanic primetime….

SoS has issues right after Oceanic prime, however. JQ and SBI nearly always outnumber us then, and we often have the outmanned buff. If we had NO coverage problems, we would be 80k in the lead.

Sooo…any Euro or Korean guilds want to join SoS? :P

alanis.6094:

ComeAndSee.1356:

Only way for SoS to survive is they have to earn enough points in US prime time to survive the night.

I was on at 5am ET a few days back (newborn baby up all night) and SoS had +375 points. I don’t think you guys have any coverage issues whatsoever.

That would still be Oceanic primetime. When that ends we tend to lose points until the US guys wake up. So we lack Euro coverage I guess.

Lingering Elements: Excellent. Makes the already ridiculous Elemental Attunement skill even better!

Lingering Elements does nothing to Elemental Attunement. It is actually really bad

cznrhubarb.5946:

Avatara.1042:

Ok I went to test Lingering Elements. The Earth 5 trait does NOT linger for 5 seconds when you attunement swap (no 80 toughness boost – not a big loss, but still a loss). Soothing Mist does gain a bit more time (variable amount), because it refreshes itself every 2 seconds if it detects the Water Attunement buff. I do not think Fire Shield lingers, but it is hard to test.

Oh and I am not sure why I thought Rock Solid was increased, because it stays at 2 seconds.

I guess the question then is: Is this skill bugged or does it just have a terrible description and we cannot intuit what it is actually doing?

I think there must be have been some proper innate boosts that each Attunement gave in the past, which were removed. Right now, Lingering Elements is basically just ‘4-6 more seconds of Soothing Mist’.

cznrhubarb.5946:

Arheundel.6451:

My analysis:

1) Ember’s might= terrible, why should I waste 20 pts in fire to get a 5% increase on direct dmg only? What about increase burning dmg by 50 pts or something?

I pretty much agree with the rest of your analysis regarding the other fire traits

Isn’t “terrible” taking it a bit far? I spec’ed fully into Fire and use Soldier’s gear so I have a significant amount of power, and after the initial RTL/Updraft burst, I pretty much keep whatever I’m targeting burning. I do wish it was something more like 10%, but even a 5% bonus is a pretty big chunk. I’d have to agree with Creslin’s ‘Okay’ rating, personally.

It is between okay and terrible. It is still pretty bad for a 25 point trait.

Ok I went to test Lingering Elements. The Earth 5 trait does NOT linger for 5 seconds when you attunement swap (no 80 toughness boost – not a big loss, but still a loss). Soothing Mist does gain a bit more time (variable amount), because it refreshes itself every 2 seconds if it detects the Water Attunement buff. I do not think Fire Shield lingers, but it is hard to test.

Oh and I am not sure why I thought Rock Solid was increased, because it stays at 2 seconds.

MrQuizzles.6823:

cznrhubarb.5946:

Avatara.1042:

Does Lingering Elements do ANYTHING without Elemental Attunement or Rock Solid? Seems pretty ridiculous to have a 15 point bonus trait do nothing without a specific skill.

I believe this includes every 5 point minor trait. So water’s regeneration lasts 5 seconds, earth’s toughness, air’s movement speed, arcana’s fury, and fire’s burst-on-hit.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong though.

I believe that was the main intent of the trait, yes, and it does indeed work that way. At the very least, soothing mist does a bit of lingering.

Does that actually work, though, in practise? I cannot recall keeping any of the earth/fire/air 5 point buffs. The elemental attunement symbol stays for 5 seconds, but does anything else?

emikochan.8504:

avatara, you can’t put all the points in without getting some attunement bonus.

Bountiful power is per unique boon. And it’s a bit of a shame auras aren’t boons anymore, losing 2% damage on auras :p

You cannot just make up attunement bonuses you know. They have to actually exist (and be affected by Lingering Elements) for it to work…

Does Lingering Elements do ANYTHING without Elemental Attunement? Seems pretty ridiculous to have a 15 point bonus trait do nothing without a specific skill.

Edit – it seems it does nothing to Elemental Attunement either. So it is for Soothing Mists only, which makes it quite a bad 15 point trait.

Ya, it is very shameful that the Elementalist cannot even soften the earth, slow the fall with fire, manipulate the air, or liquify the ground.

Anyway, the biggest issue BY FAR that the Elementalist faces is:

ATTUNEMENT RECHARGE RATE INCREASE FROM ARCANE.

Sorry for that caps, but I cannot emphasise this enough. Attunement recharge needs to be 9 seconds baseline, and this trait bonus changed to something else. It is ridiculous how powerful and essential Arcane is because of this bonus.

Humposaurus.5764:

Lol fall damage reduction traits are useless aswell xD I rather have a: “remove all conditions when activating mist form trait.”

Fall damage talents are insanely good in WvWvW, great in spvp for their effects, awesome for jumping puzzles, and useful for other PvE stuff. I think you are just completely clueless, to be honest.

JonPeters.5630:

Can I start? Icy Mist. This trait is really bad and should be merged with Soothing Wave to make room for a fall damage reduction trait.

Ah…

A little faith has been restored.

Cover Girl.2580:

this is a close and fun match so far. Can SOS sustain the non stop gameplay for week 3? or will the 3d strike curse hit them hard>>!!

Curse that extra dimension!

I would like to thank our JQ allies. Beers are on me at our next daily strategy meeting!

Guild Wars Fan.3249:

Avatara.1042:

Alsonia.4753:

ArtemisEntreri.4138:

Alsonia.4753:

PRX carry SoS so hard. Good to see HoD back on top.

PRX was on EB duty this week. They did a great job but you can’t expect people to actually believe that PRX is carrying SoS. Sea of Sorrows is carrying Sea of Sorrows. Go back to Blackgate and work on your tactics.

Thank you.

It’s kids like this; that embody why I left Sea of Sorrows. Overzealous chest pounders; that take advantage of every waking second they can do it. If you understood anything about BG; you would realize our coverage killed us more than anything.

But you’d rather run your mouth on the forums.

Dude, learn what a semi-colon is actually used for. Reading that was actually painful for me. Also look up what a comma is while you are at it.

lol…Avatara the gramma police! (oh no! illegal usage of a semicolon)

having said that…drives me mental too

Heh…first time I have seen anyone use semi-colons instead of commas. He did it for every place there should have been a comma as well.

You have to wonder who educated him…

Alsonia.4753:

ArtemisEntreri.4138:

Alsonia.4753:

PRX carry SoS so hard. Good to see HoD back on top.

PRX was on EB duty this week. They did a great job but you can’t expect people to actually believe that PRX is carrying SoS. Sea of Sorrows is carrying Sea of Sorrows. Go back to Blackgate and work on your tactics.

Thank you.

It’s kids like this; that embody why I left Sea of Sorrows. Overzealous chest pounders; that take advantage of every waking second they can do it. If you understood anything about BG; you would realize our coverage killed us more than anything.

But you’d rather run your mouth on the forums.

Dude, learn what a semi-colon is actually used for. Reading that was actually painful for me. Also look up what a comma is while you are at it.

transtemporal.2158:

When you think about it, the idea that commanders are having these clandestine meetings in secret teamspeak channels to discuss alliances between servers is pretty comical when we probably can’t even get our own guilds to play nice with each other.

I know eh. It took forever to just get the meeting location agreed upon. SoS wanted KFC, while JQ wanted McDonalds. It was a nightmare to sort out.

Ohoni.6057:

If ANet is smart, and mint (or other predictable produce) is needed in holiday recipes,, they’ll have a simple solution planned already, like having special holiday vendors that are selling mint in bulk for a very reasonable price in infinite quantities, or at the very least special “holiday nodes” you can harvest in most zones that include the necessary ingredients for holiday recipes.

That would crash the market for all eternity.

Karka actually drop properly now?

So chocolate, eggs and saffron thread will be needed for Wintersday? OR are people driving prices up?

So eggs and saffron thread will be needed for Wintersday stuff?

Shinji.2063:

mrochon.8765:

Shinji.2063:

I hope devs gets banned, exploiting into bluebrair on SOS BL. Cost us our push the first time having to retake, this was the second try.

Hello, unfortunately the screenshot shows someone with a [DEVS] tag fighting in a tower, which does not amount to anything other than that. I did ask all the guildies if they’re aware of any unsportsmanlike conduct within the guild and they said no. Please PM me if there is ever a problem.

Regards,

Yes it was a tower that had no walls knocked down and the previous owner was SBI before devs exploited cap the first time. That was the second time they tried to exploit the tower. The first time we had some sitting right in fount of the lords cause the tower was contested they capped.

That guild, DEVS, has been caught exploiting on half the servers of GW2. They used to server transfer multiple times a week, and there are screenshots all over these forums of them exploiting.

MajorMelchett.6042:

Avatara.1042:

You may consider it like that, but you are still completely wrong. If our various Attunements had the power of weapon swaps, we would need serious nerfs. The problem is that you do not understand the class. At all.

I understand it just fine and can play it just fine, your the one with the issue in regards to the cooldown, not me.

Anyways, it seems like this is a typical “if you don’t agree, don’t post” thread, so there is no point even trying to discuss it with you.

I am not trying to be harsh, but you seriously have no idea what you are talking about. Attunements are NOT the equivalent of weapons for other classes. Weapons have much, much, more power and utility in them than Elementalist Attunements. Comparing them like you do is ridiculous, and only shows how little you know the class.

As for you ‘playing fine’…I can ‘play fine’ autoattacking with Fireball all day if I am ignorant of everything. That, however, does NOT make the profession fine.

MajorMelchett.6042:

Avatara.1042:

Did the whole ‘Attunements are not weapons’ line not trigger something in your mind? You are completely wrong, and I believe you do not actually play the class.

No actully i’m not wrong, i just don’t agree with you – and yes i actully do play this class.

I consider the Attunements our form of weapon swaps (seeing as we have access to 20 skills over 4 Attunements and other classes have access to 10 skills over 2 weapon sets), and as such i find the fact our base cooldown is 15 seconds is just fine to deal with.

You may consider it like that, but you are still completely wrong. If our various Attunements had the power of weapon swaps, we would need serious nerfs. The problem is that you do not understand the class. At all.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

EatThisShoe.5136:

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

i havent had any points in Arcane EVER. I do just fine

PvE or sPvP?

or WvW?

Same spec – works fine in all 3
I change from D/D to staff for #2 when attacking/defending bases using it on the door and damaging those behind it works SO well

You are letting your realm down if you use that in WvW. AoEing with a staff without Blasting Staff means you are far less effective, and trebs will live where they would normally die.

Yep. Broken profession.

boozer.7815:

Avatara.1042:

The profession is broken at its foundation, and it most likely needs to be redone.

Actually, no its not. There is a massive cross section of the Ele playing population that actually enjoys the class exactly like it is and wishes it to stay just the same. Thanks, but no thanks.

I seriously doubt that, and even if there were, they are the kind of people who would either not care about the changes, or barely even notice them.

Look, the changes would be for the better, e.g making it so you have max attunement recharge without having to spend the (mandatory) 30 arcane points.

Completely agree. The profession has some serious issues, and it needs a lot of work from Anet. Instead, it gets nerfs and more bugs.

Honestly, I think the entire profession design is completely flawed and needs to be re-written.

Drakkonis.2768:

Wow, this just reinforced my opinion that, apart form the News and Announcement section, a great majority of this forum is used mainly for complaining. I’m not trying to be rude, this is just annoying to watch because I sometimes come to this forum to find constructive content on the game, of which there seems to be very little.

I play an Elementalist and, while it differs from other classes in playstyle, it is still fun to play. I don’t play a Warrior, for example, because I don’t like the charge-and-smash type of playing a Warrior offers, but you don’t see me complaining about it. I must say that a Warrior is not all about that lest you accuse me of simplifying things, but I never found them that interesting to begin with. ANet is not going to introduce a fundamental (and, by the way, this is a proper use of the word) change just because a handful of players want to play a certain profession in a different way. Some people want to see sniper rifles on Thieves, some want to see Necromancer’s minions nerfed because it makes PvE too easy, some want mana bars, etc. Choose which profession suits you best and have fun with it. To say that Elementalist is “fundamentally flawed” is plain ridiculous.

True enough, there are bugs and glitches but, then again, every game has them and it’s impossible to take every single variable into account and create a perfect game. Patches will come and go and yet, it seems to me, that players kittening about it will always remain.

Oh, and yeah… CapsLock? Really? Have they taught you nothing in Online Behavior 101?

That is more about you not understanding the class and the issues it faces. The class is based on concepts that frankly do not work AND contradict each other. You may ‘like the playstyle’ but that is pretty much irrelevant, just like your sniper rifle thieves and necro minion comments (I mean seriously, a nerf to necro minions? I have never seen anyone say anything close to that).

The profession is broken at its foundation, and it most likely needs to be redone. Attune Recharge needs to be revamped, Attunement traits need to be revamped, weapons need to be balanced, etc. The class is fundamentally flawed, and it needs a proper, sound base installed which it can be built on. Right now it is just a collective mess.

The caps were there for a reason: to get the point across. There is actually a place for them, you know.

Oh and just for people like you and the guy above, who cannot tell when a post goes from broken fundamentals to other issues, I split the original post. So in case you did not get it before, the fundamentals of the class that are broken are everything to do with Attunements, particularly the recharge bonus.

dreztina.4820:

I don’t think you understand what ‘fundamentally flawed’ means.

I believe it is you who does not understand what it means. The basic fundamentals of the Elementalist are broken, i.e the class is based on broken concepts. So please, instead of taking a dig at others, just say when something goes over your head and you need it explained.

The profession is FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED:

- Attunement Recharge being a traitline bonus is absolutely moronic, especially coupled with the second and third issues. Attunement recharge should be 9 seconds, BASELINE, and the arcane trait bonus changed.
- Attunement specific traits are ridiculous. They are not weapons, Anet, they are 1 out of 4 attunements.
- Attunement swapping traits forcing us to take Arcane. Again. Horrible design and conflicting with the Attunement specific traits.

Also:

- A ridiculous number of massively weak traits. 3% crit damage for 10 seconds when you use an Arcane spell? I mean, seriously?
- Huge number of bugs, and instead of being fixed, more things are broken each patch, e.g Dragon’s Tooth.
- No fall damage reduction trait. Did it not strike anyone at Anet as odd that every single profession EXCEPT the master of air, water and earth (and even fire) could reduce fall damage with a trait? Did it not strike you as odd when you tested jumping puzzles, seeing Elementalists die where others lived?

The profession needs to be completely overhauled.